00:00:00 Speaker 1: That afternoon, we had one pounds back, two seventy fives and three fifty, so we did a mock pack out where they had to get to the pin with this day, we kind of would help them, you know, like when they would start to kind of either make a mistake or you know, forget about something, we would kind of, hey, look at it from this perspective. 00:00:17 Speaker 2: Maybe you know, mess with your topos. 00:00:19 Speaker 1: If you can't read topo, use the three D, which is huge from Onyx. 00:00:24 Speaker 2: And so we guided them a little bit to their spot, which. 00:00:27 Speaker 3: Will be fair because they're literally packing on an animal and trying to get to a place that they never had been before. Yeah, And I was trying to like communicate that like this is it really like hey, Yeah, Like normally you start, yeah, at zero, you go to where you're killing, and then you go back to your truck. So you're very familiar with where you're going out here. 00:00:49 Speaker 2: The steaks are real effective. Preparation starts with fitness, but it requires so much more. 00:00:56 Speaker 1: This show explores the tools, knowledge, resilience, and skills. 00:01:00 Speaker 2: Needed to be ready when it matters the most. 00:01:03 Speaker 1: Join me Rich Browning as we apply the decades of wisdom I've gained through training and competition to hunting in the back huntry. 00:01:12 Speaker 2: This is in pursuit brought to you by Mount Knobs in collaboration with Mayhem Hunt. All right, we'll recap hunt camp Hunt prep camp. 00:01:27 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:01:27 Speaker 2: Everybody was like, what are. 00:01:28 Speaker 4: You guys hunting? We weren't hunting anything. Yeah. Uh, I don't know if this is I don't know there's something we could this is something we could do. I don't something we're going to do. Cody Warden asked me. He said, so you guys should like you already said, do you have you guys thought about like doing this like during hunting season. I go, well, honestly, like. 00:01:47 Speaker 2: Be a nightmare with tatting. 00:01:49 Speaker 1: You can only have to do one or two tags at that place. We wouldn't over hunt it. 00:01:53 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, Well you could talk about we could just talk about this off because I actually I do have some ideas, but no, you're that is the that's the one thing is the hunting pressure. But like not like that whole camp, but almost like do like a giveaway to go and like every year like come to that lease and hunt. We could talk about that, but it's like hunt with rich. Yeah. I think it's a possibility of like one or two people a year come out there. Yeah, year, Yes, mostly because the pressure. Yeah, because then it's then it sucks, and then we don't want anyone to go out there and hunt it because then no one would want it, would want to hunt it. Yep. I think the fact that the animals are so comfortable is what makes it so good. Right now. You see animals all day there all day. We had a antelope which was crazy, was that high just to hang out there. 00:02:34 Speaker 3: I think I've seen an antelope that high one other time, really, and I was hunting with someone and we were actually hiking to go check game trails, and like I was like, ah, man, you should probably bring your bro just in. 00:02:47 Speaker 4: Case be goes. 00:02:47 Speaker 3: Oh no, anealopes are never in this area. I'm not kidding you. Half a mile into this hike we see a boon and Crockett antelope at forty yards broadside. Could give two kars in the world that we were there. 00:02:59 Speaker 4: Wow. 00:03:00 Speaker 3: And if he literally would have brought his weapon. 00:03:01 Speaker 4: Oh he didn't bring it. 00:03:02 Speaker 3: No, he did not bring it. 00:03:04 Speaker 4: This one that was up. Are they are they fawns or calves? I don't think it was a calf. I think it was a cow or a dough. Oh you think are they does or bucking do but yeah, I know they're but yeah, bucks their bucks in the do. So I guess it was then probably a fun but I. 00:03:17 Speaker 2: Don't think it was a fun. 00:03:19 Speaker 4: I'm acting like. 00:03:22 Speaker 3: Maybe a fawn. 00:03:23 Speaker 4: If I had to guess, I thought someone called it a calf. But I don't know if they I don't know if that person knows what they're talking about. I don't know what I'm talking about. I don't know much about antelope at all. Yeah, yeah, oh sorry, Yeah, that's sorry. That's what I'm trying to say. A yearling, Like that's why it was so because you just see it prants around staring at her, stare at everyone moving around. But so if at nine thousand feet, yeah, just bedded down in that field, it a little stand off of the meal deer. Later yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I think I would shooting my boat. You guys were gone at this point that one of those meal deer is like crested over by the bunk house and look down on the hill and just stare at the antelope like what are you doing. 00:04:03 Speaker 2: In my house. 00:04:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, we guess where where should we begin? 00:04:07 Speaker 1: We went to all Yeah, we went to Amarillo. You did not twenty four hours out? Mike race Uh finished that. Dodds literally finished it three minutes before fifty seven. Yeah, we finished. I think my last lap was around ten. I think I finished around eleven something because yeah, because. 00:04:24 Speaker 2: Kelsey ended up going again. 00:04:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Kelsey may have started it. I think Kelsey and I were only like five minutes difference. 00:04:31 Speaker 2: He was no, because he came back way before because we got we moved to the van, and. 00:04:35 Speaker 3: He was definitely like, hey, you just bike with me because all I have to do is complete this lap. Yeah, and the time just didn't work out. 00:04:41 Speaker 4: Yeap. So what was it? 00:04:44 Speaker 2: Eight? 00:04:45 Speaker 1: It was about eight ish miles a lap when you did the bike to camping back, it's about nine, so about eighty plus miles. 00:04:50 Speaker 2: I got. How many laps do you get? 00:04:52 Speaker 3: Seven plus eight if you do the warmup and cool down? 00:04:56 Speaker 2: We did. We did nine laps total. 00:04:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, I did seven lap technically. 00:05:00 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:05:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, so did that? 00:05:03 Speaker 1: Loaded up, drove from there from Amberillo to Colorado. You guys took the long route. You guys took twenty five. 00:05:11 Speaker 3: All the way up twenty five to seventy. 00:05:13 Speaker 1: We took a bunch of highways. I think Matt or somebody was afraid you guys were gonna get stuck on. 00:05:18 Speaker 3: He thought we were taking quote unquote back roads. 00:05:20 Speaker 2: It was not back like this, and it added about two hours to your trip. 00:05:24 Speaker 1: So we got there about ten You guys were there like two am something. 00:05:28 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like somewhere right there. 00:05:32 Speaker 1: So then the first couple of days we just prepped some stuff. We cut some trails for us to use this fall, and we did. 00:05:40 Speaker 2: We used for one of the. 00:05:41 Speaker 1: Mock pack outs. We did set up a three course archery course. We set up a rifle range out to one thousand yards. 00:05:48 Speaker 4: Yep. 00:05:49 Speaker 1: We went glassed a little bit that first night when me and you and then the rest of the crew metus up there, just to test out that trail. Little cut that trail a little bit, test out, just some some hikes. 00:05:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, make sure was all good. So we did that, had a great. 00:06:02 Speaker 1: Time, worked out every morning, hung out, worked a little bit, hung out. 00:06:05 Speaker 4: It wasn't it wasn't a huge workload. It was just like a couple of things get done every day. 00:06:08 Speaker 3: Pace it out. 00:06:09 Speaker 4: Well. Yeah, it worked out good to everyone being there by Monday to start working. If we had gotten there like on Wednesday, nightmare. 00:06:15 Speaker 3: But got got all the food prepped. 00:06:17 Speaker 4: That was good, and tested out some stuff. 00:06:20 Speaker 2: So Thursday guys come in. 00:06:24 Speaker 1: They were there four four, last four Yeah, twelve guys, Uh they were thirteen one backed out last minute. 00:06:30 Speaker 2: Got all this stuff though, which was well worth the money. We took the whole group up. 00:06:36 Speaker 4: Well. 00:06:36 Speaker 2: We worked out a little bit. 00:06:37 Speaker 1: Let him feel the altitude a little bit, about nine thousand feet where camp was a little run kettle bell swing, push up workout or dumb bell snatchy the one. 00:06:46 Speaker 2: Then what is that about two to three mile hike? 00:06:51 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was like one point nine to the top to the top he has one point nine. 00:06:56 Speaker 2: It was elevation change. 00:06:57 Speaker 3: I think it's just about. 00:06:59 Speaker 4: Nine hundred like nine hundred something. Yeah, it's uh, it's aggressive. Yeah, quick little turn around, especially. 00:07:05 Speaker 3: If you go right behind the log. 00:07:07 Speaker 4: Yeah, the first till is nasty. 00:07:09 Speaker 2: Got up there to the knife ridge, glassed a little bit salt, a bunch. 00:07:13 Speaker 4: Of saw a bunch out. That was pretty much every little meadow you'd see something sitting there. 00:07:18 Speaker 3: We worked on our our pointing system. 00:07:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we talked about and Jeff got to get on the same page before we start hunting together. But yeah, you you don't realize how valuable that stuff is. But when you kind of like figure out how to kind of explain stuff where stuff is, it helps. That was something when Hillary and Maddie went with a bear hunting. 00:07:38 Speaker 4: She's like, I don't see a seven? What are you talking about? 00:07:40 Speaker 1: You know, because the trees usually you can put a number in them, or you know, like an arrow or whatever. 00:07:47 Speaker 3: The dog legs you know, fair a way. 00:07:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she just did not I don't see a seven? What are you talking about. 00:07:53 Speaker 4: It's also funny that, like from where I'm standing to where you're standing, you could see drastically different stuff like five feet apart. You can see different like no, come over here, you like want to put their head right in front of yours, like look, and you don't know that until you get out there. 00:08:05 Speaker 1: I mean it's like especially a set of aspens, you're looking this way, yeah, and then you turn just this much and you can see straight on into its crazy. 00:08:13 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:08:14 Speaker 1: And so I I think it's you know, overlooked by people were like, oh, I'll go out there and just glass and you're like, nah, you got to have something, and you've got to have a pattern of how you you know, top to bottom, grid it whatever, and it just takes time. And then seeing them, Yeah, they then start popping and then you know what you're looking for. 00:08:29 Speaker 4: They start popping. The longer you get into the season, the easier they are to spot. And the thing that I learned from Curtis when we went with him in twenty one was like looking slow. A lot of the times they're not moving, and if they are moving, it's not that fast, Like they move their head down to eat and move their head up to like look around. 00:08:48 Speaker 2: There's a couple of times stare at this fall. 00:08:50 Speaker 1: We would be just looking at oak brush and you wouldn't see anything, and then all of a sudden you just notice a head turner. 00:08:56 Speaker 2: You could see antlers turning in the oak brush. 00:08:57 Speaker 1: You're like, I've been looking there for an hour and a half. 00:09:01 Speaker 4: I think me and Jeff a talking about it's insane, how well just their brown body. This goes for all like big game, Yeah, yeah, big game animals. Uh, they just like disappear that brown just disappears in the woods. Right when they get behind, like they're a. 00:09:17 Speaker 2: Little bit more red right now, they're very bright. 00:09:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't have their winter codes. 00:09:22 Speaker 1: So it's pretty red almost looking, and so they blend in even better almost. 00:09:28 Speaker 3: So that was first night we worked out hiked up there. 00:09:35 Speaker 4: I do want to say that for the sponsors that came on and like supported it, the guys were overwhelmed and not one person said that they like they were like, dude, I like when you were like sending us in the group chat like all the sizes we would need and uh, asking about about stuff like I just they didn't think we were going to get all of this. 00:09:54 Speaker 2: You can go through. 00:09:55 Speaker 4: They got a Rogue. 00:09:56 Speaker 1: Plate carrier YEP, got the plates yeah, full stack from Mountain Ops YEP. They got Devote and duro hydrate. They got Vivo Barefoot Tracker Backer boots. They got multiple hats from Work Sharp Mountain Ops US YEP, and a shirt from US yeh Work Sharp Sharpener YEP, Sharpener, m k C Knife, KC. 00:10:18 Speaker 3: Knife, sun hoodie from First First Light YEP. 00:10:23 Speaker 4: Obviously fully set up. And then one guy got a rifle. Yeah, Chad got a right harness. The Phelps call the people. I hope, I'm not leaving anyone out. It was like it was just such a yeady water bottle, yeady water bottle on X gave them. They still came in and gave them a year membership. Like we had lost communication. They were like last minute he said, hey, dude, I'm still gonna make it work and sent it over right away. Yeah, hopefully I'm not leaving anyone out now from us, from us. 00:10:55 Speaker 2: Trying to think everything we set out on the bench. 00:10:57 Speaker 4: Yeah, now I'm trying to run through in my head. It was so much and uh like you guys, I think even asked like like they're getting all this Like I don't know who it was, like dang out like I think maybe Jeff did you say it? Or maybe I think Curtis said it, Like how can I be it? How can I like, yeah, yeah we should probably thinks. Yeah, it was a lot of stuff. So yeah that we we tried to just work with all the companies that we work we've worked with before, and even like try to just talk to some new ones. But I mean it's for sure without SIG and Elite coming on big time bringing their guys out there, and we'll get into this that like they absolutely made it, like. 00:11:34 Speaker 2: Yep, great, Yeah, so I mean we can talk about that. 00:11:37 Speaker 1: The next morning we did a little fitness breakfast and then split them into groups of six. 00:11:41 Speaker 3: It was a lot of fitness. 00:11:42 Speaker 4: It was a lot of. 00:11:44 Speaker 2: Groups of six. 00:11:45 Speaker 1: And then first group or one group went and hung out with Kidder with Elite Man Kidder and d Lane and all you guys helped get them all set up shooting. 00:11:55 Speaker 4: I think two to three guys. It ended up working out really well. Two to three guys in each group had never shot a bow before, so it worked out where he wasn't like totally overwhelmed with beginners. It was split up pretty evenly where he had beginners in both groups and. 00:12:09 Speaker 1: Set up their bows, did all shooting, got them sighted in twenty thirty forty, and then the other group went down hung out with SIG, had two instructors their SIG, two instructors and guns and shot out to eight hundred yards. 00:12:22 Speaker 4: Yeah, we had steal ever one hundred yards. 00:12:23 Speaker 1: Set it from a thousand, but they wanted to be down lower so they could instruct a lot. 00:12:27 Speaker 2: We had a little bench set up so there's a thousand yard. 00:12:29 Speaker 4: Yeah. That was cool. I mean, you don't. There's it's I think I said this to you guys that just getting to a range that has over five hundred yards is like kind of expensive in itself. Like just to go to one and like to have an instructor there to walk you through with their guns is like, is really cool. 00:12:46 Speaker 1: Little funny side story. The day before I wanted to like shoot my gun. 00:12:50 Speaker 4: At altitude that I used out there. 00:12:51 Speaker 1: I was gonna leave it out there, and so I had Watkins and Billings spotting for me, and so we're shooting the thousand and you know, we. 00:12:58 Speaker 3: I got this whole recorded. 00:13:00 Speaker 2: We've done a little bit of math, you know where they're like, I forgot I had. 00:13:05 Speaker 1: I want to say, I had one or two shots at nine hundred and then I took three I think at a thousand. Yeah, and I would shoot and we'd adjusted for the altitude, and they're. 00:13:13 Speaker 2: Like, miss. 00:13:15 Speaker 1: Shoot again, miss shoot again, And I'm like messing with m away. Later on they get back, they're like, oh, yeah, you hit thousand three times. I was like, I mean it was a big target, but still I'm like, you idiots, you know, because both of them are looking at it. 00:13:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I think buildings like no, hi, miss, and then Walker's like, ah, I think you hit it. The Billing's like, no, you don't know what you're talking about. 00:13:38 Speaker 2: Dollars has got it all. But yeah, warns so uh yeah. 00:13:42 Speaker 1: So even that group on the rifles, they hadn't shot a bunch of rifles either, and. 00:13:46 Speaker 2: So Sid came out. I didn't actually get to go down there for that. I was up kind of with the archery. 00:13:51 Speaker 3: Yeahs, with archery guys getting just like that instructor's time alone. 00:13:55 Speaker 4: Yeah, she was so valuable, so nice. Yeah, I mean I should have been now there had to I what I was helping. I was helping out Blake and de Lane, but I should have probably just done that course twice. I should have been there all day. 00:14:08 Speaker 1: We all so then they flipped. We had lunched after they flipped. And then that afternoon, well the groups were going. Me and Curtis and Nate went up and put pins on ex pins in two different sides of the road. And there's this property covers six thousand acres and so you can go up behind the camp, up behind the cabins, and you can go out in front of the cabins and the one in front still has a pretty good climb. 00:14:36 Speaker 2: The one up back. 00:14:37 Speaker 3: Is climbing the whole time. 00:14:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so that afternoon we had one one pound bag YEP, two seventy five's and three fifties, and so we did a mock pack out where they had to get to the pin. With this day, we kind of would help them, you know, like when they would start to kind of either make a mistake or you know, forget about something, we would kind of, hey, look at it from this perspective, maybe you. 00:14:58 Speaker 2: Know, mess with your topos. 00:15:00 Speaker 1: If you can't read topo, use the three D, which is huge from ONYX. And so we guided them a little bit to their spot, which. 00:15:08 Speaker 3: Will be fair because they're literally packing on an animal and trying to get to a place that they never had been before. And I was trying to like communicate that like this isn't really like hey, yeah, like normally you start, yeah at zero, you go to where you're killing, and then you go back to your truck. So you're very familiar with where you're going. It's not just blend down. 00:15:29 Speaker 2: It was also a land nav. 00:15:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, learning the skill, learning the skill of using on X was important too, So I blended it. Yeah. The one thing that Curtis said to them is like when they wanted to, we can even talk about this like when we work, we'll call it bushwhacking when you When they wanted to start bushwhacking through like they said, well, you know, it's only one hundred yards over there, he said, well look at the elevation change though, and he said, in my opinion, I would wait till on this nice path, I would wait till I'm really close elevation wise, and then if it looks like it's about one hundred yards, then you start bushwack and you side he'll try not to try not to bushwhack until you're close. So what we did the first time is we got about I want to say it was like eighty eight hundred eighty eight or sorry, eighty nine fifty or whatever, and the pin was out like nine thousand. So then that's when the bushwhacking started. That was and it seemed like that was a decent I mean, we only went for one hundred yards more shadowing. 00:16:22 Speaker 2: It was more than we did more than that. 00:16:26 Speaker 3: Thankfully, if it wasn't for this really bad game trip, we would have done it for a. 00:16:29 Speaker 4: Lot long. 00:16:32 Speaker 2: Yep. So that was the night that was fun. It was a ton of fun. We uh, it was cool that they you know, they enjoyed it. 00:16:40 Speaker 1: They it got them some perspective on yeah, hey, what it's going to be like to go get something yeah, or carry something out. 00:16:46 Speaker 2: But it also didn't crush them like Scott at first was like we need to kill them, Like yeah, you know, I need to push them. 00:16:53 Speaker 1: And I think it was mixed with the fitness, mixed with the being out in the sun and walking around and all that type of stuff. 00:16:59 Speaker 2: It was about perfect because a lot of them that first night were they were. 00:17:02 Speaker 4: Being you've been on your feet all day and then we were asking you to pack out this animal basically, and we did say that like we kind of looked up, well, this is roughly how much this would weigh, and that would weigh, and Curtis would every time they would stop, you'd kind of say like, well, like you gotta remember, this is like after you've been hunting for a few days and then you have to quarter it up and then now you're finally packing it out. So there's a lot of work that goes into it. And I did relay what you're saying that we added the fitness in there to condense this three days into like a five or six day hunt. 00:17:33 Speaker 1: Like, well, we wanted you guys wanted them to feel like, was like, oh, this is what a three day hard hunt would Yeah, like you know, the fitness in the morning and that would be a hike in in the morning, and then you might be glassing through the middle of the day where kind of the breakouts. 00:17:45 Speaker 2: However, the second day of breakouts, we actually took him bushwhacking. 00:17:50 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, so Curtis. 00:17:51 Speaker 1: Curtis did his kind of on ex scouting thing. We interjected a little bit, and then what we did instead of originally we had planned on going in class, going up to one of the spots and glassing, but it was middle of the day, so you weren't going to see anything. So we actually took the guys out and we bushwhacked a little bit. We're pretty familiar with the area, so we went up, went through some pretty nasty willow slash oak brushyet type stuffs, and then got into the timbers so where they could see like heavily used game trails. We saw a bunch of like beds, We saw heavily used stuff. And then we saw a little like bedroom where it was like two or three years of rubs and there were probably fifteen rubs on this one area. And you know that guy there's some old bull in there or older bull that's just like. 00:18:36 Speaker 2: This is my spot and he probably just hangs out there all year. 00:18:39 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was crazy. 00:18:40 Speaker 3: It was pretty good. 00:18:41 Speaker 1: So they got to see like, all right, you know, what does cow Elk's shit looks like? 00:18:45 Speaker 2: What does bull look like? We got to show them rubs, like we said, beds. 00:18:50 Speaker 1: And just you know, there'd be spots where they would think, oh, we're completely off of a game trail, what are we doing? And then you'd look down and you'd see prints like they're in there. You know, it made me not be a heavily used trail because it's that probably that one bowls a little like sanctuary. Yeah, and so it was cool to like get some actual did. 00:19:07 Speaker 4: You guys get in that heavy timber that like was like top, Yeah, I'm pretty high. Like his bird was saying that I didn't. I didn't go in that heavy timber, but he's like, dude, it's like, yeah, we were at the bottom. 00:19:17 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got right to the bottom third of it and it was like there was just it was. 00:19:21 Speaker 2: Like a barn yard in there. 00:19:22 Speaker 3: Yeah, I had my pretty much pretty much what I'd be wearing for a day hike because I had my car spotter and all that. Yeah, and I don't know how you're doing that with the backpack. You're doing that with a backpack on and your bow or rifle. 00:19:35 Speaker 2: It was so nice. 00:19:36 Speaker 1: All I had to biny harness. You could just whip stuff. You're not getting mad. 00:19:40 Speaker 2: It was awesome. 00:19:41 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, if you're frustrated now with just your biny harness, imagine trying to get through all this stuff with a bow. 00:19:46 Speaker 2: And a backpack. And it's a nightmare. 00:19:48 Speaker 3: And I told them, also, a six to seven hundred pound animal just commutes through this thing. Somehow I don't understand. 00:19:58 Speaker 2: So we did that in the morning. You did your gear breakout called Nate fat. 00:20:03 Speaker 4: That was great. 00:20:06 Speaker 3: It was cool in the beginning there. 00:20:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were talking. 00:20:09 Speaker 4: It was good. 00:20:10 Speaker 2: It would be cool. 00:20:11 Speaker 1: I said next year to like get them out on a like an overnight little you know, take them in small groups and an overnight. 00:20:18 Speaker 4: I would love that, I said. We were drowing when we were driving back. I said to them. I know. The problem was we were getting a lot of laughs every time you say something, so like it just fed into it. I wanted to keep saying and then like thirty minutes into it, I'm like, Okay, I gotta shut up. 00:20:32 Speaker 3: I let him because it really didn't actually kind of helped yea break keepreat well. Yeah, definitely. 00:20:38 Speaker 1: The hard part was like everybody was tired of the morning and we're inside and so it was great though, you know they it's stuff that you don't think about until. 00:20:46 Speaker 2: You're out there and then you're like, oh man, I wish I had or I needed or whatever. 00:20:50 Speaker 4: So it was real good talk. 00:20:52 Speaker 1: And then kind of the difference between a day pack and then an overnight or a couple overnight. 00:20:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's like, I mean, I'm sure you guys agree. I'll go because when I'm going to do something like this, wherever I'm gonna go hunt, I'm all, I like look on YouTube and I'll see like what should what kind of gear does someone bring? And then I get flooded with five or six different videos and I watch them and I try to pick the high points. But you have somebody in front of you that you can ask questions to makes it a lot. 00:21:16 Speaker 3: Also, I also sent them a mass checklist, well the guys that had an iPhone, at least the android guys. Yeah, but I sent them like, hey, this is kind of like your your mass checklists. 00:21:30 Speaker 4: Yeah these can you cover these these things? 00:21:32 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:21:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, So that was good and then we, uh, the afternoon, we gave them some time to go shoot the tach course. 00:21:39 Speaker 4: But nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody wanted to walk out. 00:21:41 Speaker 2: They didn't want to walk before. 00:21:43 Speaker 4: A lot of people just went and took the time to shoot their bow again at that thirty to forty to kind of dial with it. 00:21:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, keep dialing this nice leisure. 00:21:51 Speaker 4: It was nice. 00:21:52 Speaker 2: About an hour and. 00:21:54 Speaker 1: That afternoon before dinner, we did the the other pack out. They had to go get the sand bags that were left. And that one was a little bit more funny because we were flying on the wall. 00:22:07 Speaker 4: We were just like, I don't know, man anything. 00:22:09 Speaker 1: And we uh so we we flipped them. So we went to the trail. You guys were on there. You dropped them and you guys went where we went. And uh, from the previous day, the previous day, and there was a couple of times they tried to bush whack more than they needed to. I think we bush whacked the final three hundred yards or something like that. 00:22:25 Speaker 3: I think it was more than that, I felt, at least. 00:22:29 Speaker 1: And it was straight up versus you know, the trail so the way and I and I didn't do this on purpose. I just thought, oh, well, you know, if they go this way, there's a trail, and then the trail teed off and then I put them over here. And then it worked out perfectly that they didn't know that trail went up that high and then you could go over, so they thought, oh, I'll just go straight. 00:22:48 Speaker 4: Up to it, and kind of did that essentially, but not quite as aggressive as you guys. 00:22:53 Speaker 2: We did it very bad, very poorly. 00:22:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I wouldn't poorly, but it was probably the straightest path to it. 00:22:58 Speaker 2: Yeah it was, but it was a lot more hard work. 00:23:03 Speaker 3: The top part was all dead Fall too. Yeah, so we were playing the whole get over, step over. 00:23:09 Speaker 4: Yeah, which was good. 00:23:10 Speaker 2: They need to see what dead Fall looks like. 00:23:11 Speaker 4: Totally. We didn't have to do that much over dead Fall, and I think that I think the crew that I had the day before was probably a little more cautious because they had weight. They had the weight going up. They're like, that makes sense. A lot of trees falling, like when you when you're slick, like you guys were, You're like, I can handle it. 00:23:29 Speaker 1: The best part was so we get the bags and so they need to go down the trail. They're like, oh, you know there's we're on a trail, so let's just take that trail, which was smart. 00:23:39 Speaker 3: And they even said, well and then we take a left. 00:23:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, we go down, we take a left. 00:23:44 Speaker 1: They missed the left and we started going back up, which turns out was the from the first night. 00:23:50 Speaker 2: And they're one of the guys just kind of I think. 00:23:53 Speaker 1: We might have given it away a little bit by our looks to give a little gym look to the camera and uh was like, guys, uh, we're going away from camp, and a couple of them like. 00:24:04 Speaker 4: No, we're not. 00:24:04 Speaker 2: We're gonna go up here and take a left. 00:24:06 Speaker 3: He said it very passively. 00:24:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was no like, uh, there was no you know, assumption in his voice. He wasn't you know, I think we should be back there. 00:24:17 Speaker 1: And so yeah, they figured it out, but we had already climbed probably another hundred and two hundred before and they had the sand bag, so we just had a vest. 00:24:26 Speaker 4: Because that's so funny that like no one thought, man, we're going up. 00:24:29 Speaker 2: And we wouldn't going up. It would have been a long walk. 00:24:34 Speaker 3: We were like genuinely dang near where the side by side was for my fridge knife fridge. 00:24:40 Speaker 4: Yeah, we were almost there. Yeah, yeah, you're like. 00:24:43 Speaker 2: We're billing strove the side by side too. 00:24:45 Speaker 4: So when we were going the other way, so day two, when we were going up the dirt trail where you can kind of see out, we turned around for a second we saw, you guys, there's a fork. Almost immediately when you climbed, there's a fork. And curt that was the one advice Curtis gave them like real quick said, well, because it goes down a little bit in and a round. He's like, well, we're we have to go up, so we can go we can go down, but we are going to have to go up eventually. So do you think it's the best idea to be going down right now? And they're like, yeah, no, I don't think So it's funny that they didn't think that as well, Like. 00:25:17 Speaker 2: I didn't give them anything that second day. 00:25:19 Speaker 4: Yeah, true, but like I was just letting them roll. I got weight to my bag on my back. I didn't come from up. I came from down. But now I'm going up and I'm waited. 00:25:29 Speaker 3: Like that was the thing that I still can't figure out. How they didn't. 00:25:32 Speaker 2: I blew my mind. I'm like, oh, okay, well, what are we doing? 00:25:37 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I. 00:25:38 Speaker 2: Thought it was done. 00:25:38 Speaker 4: I thought we were over. 00:25:39 Speaker 2: We were walking downhill all the time. And also they take it right. Me and Nate are like they're going up. And even that first night they came up that bowl and Miguel wanted to go down and back up. 00:25:50 Speaker 4: Straight because the point was straight. 00:25:52 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, high ridge it around and he was like, yeah, we'll just go down. 00:25:56 Speaker 1: I was and uh, Zach was like, I ain't doing it, bro, I ain't going down there. 00:26:01 Speaker 2: And Quinn's like, there's a trail right here. 00:26:03 Speaker 4: We almost did that because it was because the distance was so short, but it was straight down the straight up like I thought about it. They they kind of they did it for a little bit, but quickly Cody was like, I'm not doing that. I'm not going down to go back up. We'll walk a little longer to. 00:26:21 Speaker 2: Go round lose probably three hundred feet or more. Oh yeah, least at least yeah, and then you'd have to bushwhack through it. Yeah, it's not just like a it's it. 00:26:29 Speaker 3: Is not clear. It's not aspens, it's buck brush. 00:26:34 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, Well there was another part that was so funny. Oh. Someone. It was when we were bushwhacking the first day and we were kind of we were on a we like bushwhacked for a second, got on a good game trail, and then the game trail kind of started to lead us away a little too much, and there really was another clear one and I go, how far are we from the pin? And I don't know who said it, we were like a one hundred and seventy yards ago, and I said, it's a football field in half. I go, you use that information how you want. And to me, I'm like, I can bush whack. I can you know I can do that one hundred and fifty yards. I could make that work. And uh, but they were like, let's try to find another game trail and we got the top. I said, hey, you guys, will you guys probably made the right call, but like and and Curtis, well Curtis said the same thing. He's like, it doesn't sound that long to me, and uh, because we were talking to each other, and that is I mean, I do that. I have done that a lot, done that in the Hill's here, I've done that. I did that no annoy one time. I'm like, well that's I mean, that's way different. Yeah, honestly, I don't know. It's actually the hills no annoying. We're nasty. They were nasty, you know, grinted. 00:27:37 Speaker 3: If we didn't know the property as well as we did, I could easily think of like, okay, we're only three hundred and seventy yards three hundred sorry sorry, one hundred and seventy and seventy hundred. Let's just put our head down to get to it. 00:27:49 Speaker 4: Yeah. I didn't have the I but I said, hey, guys, I don't have to wait on my back, so you guys do whatever you want. They're like, oh, yeah, I'll try to find a game show. And they did something I did tell them after the game human trill. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:28:00 Speaker 3: I was like, guys, like what I would have done. I would have created my plan before I put on the weight, and I would have probably like mapped it out on my app, because the second you put that weight on, you just want. 00:28:11 Speaker 4: To go what's the shortest what's the shortest way to get to that point? 00:28:14 Speaker 3: Exactly? So I like to you know, quarter my you know, my animal up, get it ready, get comfy. However you best you can make the plan, look at it, have a good idea, and then pick it up and go. And then Quinn was like, well, I didn't know what I was looking at anyway, So. 00:28:32 Speaker 4: Reading the Tobo lines is a skill, like you have to do it. And then because I get they were like, well how do you see that? I said, well, you just zoom in and they'll tell you the number you're at and the number one go closest line to where that point is at. That's what we're looking for. You know, once you get close, even if it's a little far away, then you can just walk. 00:28:48 Speaker 1: Straightly, slide it up and you're like, oh okay, that looks nasty. 00:28:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out to on the next good feature. Good feature. 00:28:57 Speaker 4: It is a good feature. 00:28:59 Speaker 2: Yes, that night they did go shoot the tach course. 00:29:02 Speaker 4: Cool feedback. We made horses perfect. 00:29:04 Speaker 1: We made it very beginner, but have some like clouded vision type stuff, but nothing. 00:29:12 Speaker 4: I thought it was perfect. I thought it was great, like especially because it was it wasn't a hike, like it didn't need to be like how most tach courses obviously are, because that's what you're doing all day. 00:29:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, we hiked and they rent out ski resorts to do it. 00:29:24 Speaker 4: Yeah, like we do. We spent all the day hiking. The whole day hiking, and then you kind of just went out there and you could shoot and bes with your buddies. It was actually really nice because it was just a few distance. You could even talk crap to the guys in front of you, like you were still that close. I think everyone really enjoyed that, and I mean I know I did. 00:29:41 Speaker 3: Also, like half the guys together, Yeah, half the guys picked it up for the first time two days ago, and they already felt like, oh dang, I can shoot three D. 00:29:50 Speaker 4: Cool. 00:29:50 Speaker 1: But even some of the guys that were shooting really well on the black target just you know, having people around watching you talking trash. 00:29:59 Speaker 4: But then also small animal animals lend. Yeah, there was like the kyoty that and the kooti and the groundhog blend in because it's like they're perfectly brown and they blend in with the surrounding behind them. They were No, it was great those I thought it was really fun. I had a ton of fun doing it. 00:30:16 Speaker 3: A couple of arrows lost, couple of bad you. 00:30:18 Speaker 4: Give them what twelve or so everyone everyone probably end up losing maybe two, probably, which is to be expect. 00:30:26 Speaker 3: Mgil's If so, Miguil, you're watching this, I'll send it to. 00:30:31 Speaker 1: No. 00:30:31 Speaker 4: I gave it to him. Oh you did, yeah, perfect, grabbed and give to him. 00:30:34 Speaker 3: I lost a few arrows, but I was. 00:30:35 Speaker 4: Trying to yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:30:37 Speaker 3: Billings got me all fired. 00:30:38 Speaker 4: Oh you can't hit that. We turned it into like a yes, stupid composition. 00:30:42 Speaker 3: Have you shot your bow with Billings? 00:30:45 Speaker 4: Oh my god, gosh was back at the aras gone. As soon as it's back boom like like you shouldn't recurve, really. 00:30:53 Speaker 3: Dude, it's literally like you're shooting a recurve. 00:30:56 Speaker 4: And he's pretty he's pretty good. Pretty. 00:31:00 Speaker 3: We were on the forty yard target. 00:31:02 Speaker 4: He gets to the printing and say okay, and he just lets one fly and they're good shots most of the time. 00:31:09 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was hilarious. 00:31:10 Speaker 2: He did. 00:31:10 Speaker 4: He did ball up a few arrows. Trying to do some stupid stuff and so on the last hole, he yeah, he's like, hey, give me one of your arrows. And Jeff's like, that ain't gonna work. And so our era arrow he was at it because he was doing drinks. 00:31:26 Speaker 3: You bought six, he brought six, he lost five and a half. 00:31:30 Speaker 4: He he did find Yeah, he found one or two. And then he's like, give me one of your arrows. I'm like, I guess our drawings were close. 00:31:36 Speaker 3: Enough and he was the only ram. 00:31:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I gave him one and he shot in. I mean he hit with it trying to hit the curl or something. He was trying to hit the eye, but he ended up hitting the horn curl. 00:31:45 Speaker 3: He lost three arrows trying to hit the eye. 00:31:48 Speaker 4: It was so good, it's hilarious. 00:31:52 Speaker 2: So that was kind of the wrap. 00:31:53 Speaker 1: We did a couple of DeVos each night, well we did in that night because it was late, and then. 00:31:58 Speaker 3: Kitter talked about uh elite stuff and aero prep. 00:32:02 Speaker 4: Yea stuff like that. 00:32:02 Speaker 1: Then yeah, and then they did a couple of swag bags for best shot Cold War and then best shot on the tip course score high score, and then next morning we did a little fitness breakfast and we got the hell out of Dodge. 00:32:16 Speaker 4: Yeah, drove twenty one hours or something like that. 00:32:19 Speaker 3: I think our door door was twenty six hours including everything it stops. 00:32:24 Speaker 2: Did you guys, So you gained an hour or you lost an hour? 00:32:28 Speaker 3: Lost an hour? 00:32:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, So we left at eleven thirty and we got back at nine. 00:32:32 Speaker 3: So we got back at like probably ten ten thirty. 00:32:35 Speaker 1: It's under twenty four hours, yeah, right out of twenty three okay, yeah, which is still I drove like the first twelve. AC stopped working in Kansas. 00:32:45 Speaker 3: Ah. 00:32:46 Speaker 1: They couldn't get the AC. We were in the sprinter van and they couldn't get the AC to work in the back. And then the front started getting real weak. It stopped got fuel and it was fine. Oh the front was not the back. 00:32:57 Speaker 3: Hawkins was stressing out about it, like talking to Jack about. 00:33:02 Speaker 2: To Jack Jack about Lord. 00:33:06 Speaker 4: Jack. 00:33:07 Speaker 3: Jack was blowing him off. 00:33:08 Speaker 2: It was hot back. 00:33:09 Speaker 1: There, but yep, it was a good trip, man. It was like eleven days from front to back. 00:33:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, including so got to be back and my wife's glad on back. For sure. I could again. I could have been in Colorado forever. 00:33:28 Speaker 2: I just stayed out there for a long time. 00:33:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, so what's next. 00:33:32 Speaker 1: We got let's figure out el cutting season season, getting everybody prepped to let's know if you guys have any questions on topics you want us to address in the next couple of weeks. 00:33:44 Speaker 2: Getting ready, but you should should be well on your way to be getting ready. 00:33:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, big shout out to Elite sig all the sponsors that helped. 00:33:53 Speaker 1: Casey Road Road gave us sandbags for all that mountain ups, a bunch of supplements. 00:33:58 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I had approach you check every night. Uh what else is on the back of that shirt? Yetti on X on X. Yeah, so were to get. 00:34:07 Speaker 3: That all that oh, Ultra arrows. 00:34:10 Speaker 4: Ultra rows. 00:34:13 Speaker 2: Sites. 00:34:14 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was, I mean we had so many. It was a lot of working a lot of moving parts to get it go. But really a lot of the sponsors were like, dude, this sounds awesome. I like to be a part of it, like almost every single one we talked to, which was encouraging. And now that we have done it once, yeah, we'll have a bunch of have a bunch of bunch of stuff to share with them and then hopefully they want to do it again. And because we we would definitely want to do it again. I think the resounding feedback was like, dude, this is awesome, Like I'd like to do this again. Yeah I'm talking personally, yes. 00:34:47 Speaker 2: But they seem to have a have a good time. We had a yeah, a bunch of people that were like, oh, I'd come back every year. 00:34:51 Speaker 4: Yeah, and said they're there friends they again, like they were posted on social media. Their friends would hit him up and say do this looked awesome and there and mcgul specifically said he had two or three guys hit him up. He's like I told you yeah. Yeah. 00:35:03 Speaker 1: So some ideas we had for next year overnight, yeah, overnight camp. 00:35:08 Speaker 2: And then also we talked about doing a kind of a mock. 00:35:10 Speaker 1: Hunt for simulated morning seven seven to eight mile rock with your gun, get up to a spot, take a four or five hundred yard shot. 00:35:18 Speaker 2: And then pack and meet out, pick your back out, which would be pretty fun. 00:35:21 Speaker 4: It would just be a day pack yeah, quote unquote, and spend like almost the whole morning doing that. The midday it would be fun. 00:35:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would love to take those guys out overnight, teach him how to find his flat spot for a ten do some hydas. 00:35:38 Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, I think people would love that. I would love that would. 00:35:41 Speaker 2: Be fun looking like early June next year. 00:35:44 Speaker 4: Yeah, probably also shout out to the weather. 00:35:46 Speaker 2: Depending on hot it wasn't that bad. I mean compared to here. 00:35:50 Speaker 4: Coming back here it was it was crap, yeah, because like the morning and the sun would come up and be hot and the cool back off. Yeah. 00:35:56 Speaker 2: But if you were in the shade at any point, you were fine. 00:35:59 Speaker 4: Here you're in the If you're in the shade, it was I'm not ready for this for the last nasty all right. When I got here, I'm like, oh my gosh, the straight humidity. 00:36:09 Speaker 1: So yep, be ready early June. We'll start pushing it out once we get some stuff. But I think we need to go ahead and set up a website or set up the link for it, because I think it was great. 00:36:20 Speaker 2: Anything else I. 00:36:22 Speaker 4: Think that covers it. It was a great time. Yeah, we gotta put it into a second draw. Antelope. I've for seen an antelope. Try to get that killed. That count. 00:36:34 Speaker 2: Cool. Peace,