00:00:00 Speaker 1: That's kind of the beauty the program. 00:00:01 Speaker 2: Though, if you're doing the program, you're gonna the residual effect of following one of these tracks will be to lose some weight. And the idea that hey, if I get stronger put on a little bit more muscle, that it will burn up more fat and you will have the strength. There's you know, I think obviously we can get into the weeds and super like analytical on what we're trying to do with like get you strong. 00:00:25 Speaker 1: But for most of these programs. 00:00:27 Speaker 2: The byproduct is for a lot of guys is if you are overweight, you're going to lose some weight, and if you're underweight and need to get stronger, you're gonna get stronger. So there's almost like a dual purpose out out here. The stakes are real effective preparation starts with fitness, but it requires so much more. This show explores the tools, knowledge, resilience, and skills needed to be ready when it matters the most. Join me Rich Browning as we apply the decades of wisdom I've gained through training and competition to hunting in the back huntry. This is in Pursuit, brought to you by Mount Knobs in collaboration with Mayhem hunt all. 00:01:14 Speaker 1: Right in pursuit. 00:01:16 Speaker 3: Angelo's back, Scott's still here, How's Charlie sick? 00:01:22 Speaker 1: A lot of sickness going around in these ranks him. 00:01:26 Speaker 4: I think that I think that my sickness that we talked about on this podcast from our rifle hunt in Colorado, I think that has prevented me from getting any of this. 00:01:36 Speaker 2: But you think it went the other way around the planet. Came to hear like you did we go to London? 00:01:43 Speaker 1: After that? 00:01:44 Speaker 4: You did? You went to Scotland. 00:01:45 Speaker 2: So maybe I carried it to Scotland and then it went all the way around the world the opposite way, and then now it made its way back. 00:01:51 Speaker 4: I don't know what happened, but I think I was patient zero because if anything, I just keeps feeling better better than me. 00:01:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, good for you. 00:01:59 Speaker 3: Has he taken a test like what is a see? I have flu? 00:02:02 Speaker 4: Bee and your kids have flube. I think flub and strap I think, yeah. 00:02:06 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I probably. 00:02:07 Speaker 1: Just messed up. Yeah, I think I have. I think I think I had the flu for a day or two, I don't know. 00:02:13 Speaker 4: And Bird is down with the flu. We barely could get this podcast recorded because everyone's been sick. 00:02:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I just am like I don't even think I'm gonna go to that meeting later because I just don't think I need to be in a room with like fifty a small room with fifteen people, Like I don't think that's just my idea, So like I'm just gonna, like I'll call in. 00:02:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had one. I have one thing that makes me think I have strep throat. It's like this little tiny like scratch that it feels like a razor blade on the back of my right side of my throat. 00:02:40 Speaker 3: I I took some niquil one night and went to sleep, and the night quill knocked me out, which was good but bad because when I did wake up, my fever was coming back. When the medicine started to wear off, my fever was coming back. And I woke up and my throat are so bad because my nose was stuffed up. But I was exhausted from taking the Nike will didn't matter, so I was just mouth breathing, dude, like I had. I had just swallowed a cactus cacti. Yeah, multiple like I had swallowed cacti. And then that whole night after that point, I woke up and I had a fever for like NonStop, thirty six hours, one oh one, one oh two. No matter how much medicine I took, it was nuts. 00:03:23 Speaker 4: Well, now that we let me talk about fitness, now that we've explained why you guys sound so terrible, before we get too far in, I want to talk about the Concord ninety challenge we have coming up with mountaink Ops. 00:03:34 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So concre ninety is the challenge. We did it last year with them, in conjunction with them, so we're like their programming sponsor for it. I'm not talking to you, guys, I'm just looking at you guys because you're here. I'm talking to people that are watching this podcast. 00:03:48 Speaker 1: People give people. 00:03:49 Speaker 3: So what Conger ninety is is, it's a challenge ninety day challenge. We're gonna start on January twelfth, run through April eleventh. The rules recommend recommendations for the daily activities sixty minutes of physical activity using Mayhem hunt hopefully, and then it will be free that whole time, yeah, which is free free. It'll be free on playbook. We'll have a we'll have a code, and we'll have a little challenge area to go through there, and it'll have programs which I'll get into here in a second, that you can choose from twenty minutes of reading a gallon of water following a healthy measurable diet, and then fifteen minutes of journaling. For that fifteen minutes of journaling, what I will be doing and what I recommend is, you know, personally, I'll like, I'll read my Bible, I'll write down kind of what those things, what I'm reading, how it applies my life, how I can apply it to my life. But you can do whatever you want. So three things you're grateful for, Three areas of intentional improvement something like that, and for those. The thing I'm really excited about, which was a lot of work but I kind of did to myself because I was really excited about it, was the different programs are going to do for it. So if you're on the programming you're used to seeing our boot and Crocket, Pope and Young in our garage, or minimal version of the Crosst programming. I'm dying, So we have three options. The Bouten Crocket obviously is gonna be the most advanced. The Pope and Young option is going to be more intermediate CrossFit, and then the garage minimal will either be something if you're traveling, it will be a good work out of your traveling or maybe if you are just getting into fitness and you only have a few items at your home gym you can't get to a gym that day, that option is in there too, So we have those for ninety days that you can follow. We have a bodybuilding track if you're more interested in just a normal bodybuilding track, you're you know, you're This program starts Monday is gonna be chest and tries, and then Tuesday is like a lower body squat focus, so normal bodybuilding program which you could follow that for ninety days. We have just cardio workouts if you wanted to follow those, running echo bike or air bike or row. And then some rucking I believe is in here too. Or the one that I was actually really excited about, which I spent the most time writing is the Everyday Hunter, which is our version of a hybrid. 00:06:22 Speaker 1: Every day hunter. 00:06:23 Speaker 3: Nice you like that, Yeah, our version of a hybrid. 00:06:27 Speaker 1: Athlete every day hunter. Nice? 00:06:30 Speaker 3: Oh man, what do you think about that? Actually? 00:06:32 Speaker 1: Yeah? 00:06:32 Speaker 3: That had that was not my. 00:06:34 Speaker 4: Mouth what does that program look like? Like, why are you so excited about it? 00:06:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Locker, of course when I showed him this, he was so excited for this too. It's just like it's a little bit different from so the one thing we got from people from Conquer ninety last year was that everyone liked the programming, but not everyone is super Yeah, doesn't have as much experience with normal CrossFit stuff like we're used to programming. So to give more op for the people who are following it, we did more of this everyday hunter stuff. So like, for example, the kind of test will be doing in this will be a on the first day of the programming, there's a one mile run test, and then after that there's some pressing. So there's two sessions to each day. There's a one mile run test, then there's gonna be a wonder at max bench on day one, and then if we go all the way to the last day of the first week, is going to be like a high Rocks style test. There's gonna be some running and some movements in between that running that looks like a high Rocks but more Hunt Hunt version. Yeah, wearing a vest, so it's gonna be running and weightlifting kind of if you know, like what hybrid athlete whatever that body running and bodybuilding. Yeah, some high intense bodybuilding. So yeah, I mean I'm really excited about this. Like there's like there is cross style workouts in here. There's a lot of running of course, and there's like, yeah, like I said, there's like a high rocks style workout that we're going to be using as like kind of our litmus test for to start and end to see how we progressed and then seeing a strength progression through here as well. So that one I'm really excited about. Really excited to see how people see which ones people like to use, Like we'll be watching the numbers on which ones people like to use, and then we'll kind of double down on that. Like whatever people want to see is what we'll give them more of, is my goal. So there's your really long form version of what conquered ideas well. 00:08:28 Speaker 4: I think this is a good time to talk about. This time of year, pretty much everyone is done with their hunts unless. 00:08:35 Speaker 1: You're physically physical active. 00:08:38 Speaker 4: Yes anything, unless you have some crazy weird late season, you're pretty much done. So I think a lot of people now have moved into like what you'd call off season, which I think most people this time you're probably like, I'm not going to do anything, and they'll really get gung ho in like May or June further or maybe even July. But I think this is the best time to set are building a foundation. Yeah, So I just wanted to talk today about off season training and what that should look like for people that have an unknown task, which is a hunt, yeah, coming up in the fall, maybe spring bear or something like that. 00:09:14 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think, I mean, I think you probably you guys probably agree. Uh. If you have been hunting hard through especially September and October, and then even if you're if you've been hunting whitetail a lot, you've probably been neglecting your health. You've been sitting too. 00:09:28 Speaker 4: You've definitely been neglecting your health. 00:09:30 Speaker 3: You've been sitting. You've been sitting all morning, going in, eating something that's probably not that good for you, and going back out and hunting the afternoon, uh, or a day, or sitting all day not even going in. I watched his video, this guy saying that he would like bring extra straps out to his saddle. He would hammer himself in the saddle and would sleep in his saddle and just wake up and start hunting again overnight. Overnight. Overnight he would sleep and you would just hammer himself out and then wake back up and just like sit up back in his saddle like hotly. 00:09:58 Speaker 1: It's impressive. 00:10:00 Speaker 4: Did he kill anything? 00:10:01 Speaker 3: I don't know. I didn't I didn't watch the whole podcast was just a short hope I would hope he killed something. He said he was there. I think he said he sat in one spot for four days. I don't know if he I don't know if he like I don't know if he literally sat in the tree for four days, but he did, like do all days sits. 00:10:16 Speaker 4: I'd be worried about getting a blood clot or something. 00:10:18 Speaker 3: Oh, I know, yeah, you'd have to like get down just like do a couple of laps on this on the sticks, just to get your legs moving. I think you guys tell me you probably agree, But I think this is the time to like start to build your strength back, like where you've stepped. I need to start building my strength back. I'm I'm eight pounds down from being sick. But yeah, building your strength back if you spend a lot of time in the woods, hiking, not eating enough, you know, just and just like hunting hard. Uh you focused. We spent a lot of time leading into the fall focusing on like longer pieces, more kind of lower intensity. Still some high intensity, but lower intensity long you know, Zone two work and stuff like that, so where we can get out into the woods and hunt and hike long time for a long time. So start to build that strength back, which we have some strength programs that we're following on sugar Water moving over to Playbook and it will be on there as well, so we'll have a strength we have to one strength progression in there and we're adding another one. And then the other thing is like getting some of that fast twitch back, so faster running cycles, higher intensity workouts. We don't have to worry about the longer durations right now, we can start to focus on some of that higher intensity and then as we get closer to the season, obviously build that volume back up. So I would say strength building and then higher intensity would take precedence for the next few months or so. 00:11:49 Speaker 1: Those are two things I would say. 00:11:50 Speaker 2: I would say strength for sure, don't completely neglect fitness by not doing any type of metcon meta ball conditioning, for anybody who's either new or just not familiar with with I guess our terms, and so. 00:12:07 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people will go, oh, I'll. 00:12:08 Speaker 2: Just get strong, and then they'll completely neglect and what I think you've done a good job with or over the years that we've all done a good job of, is like, yeah, while we're doing strength work, we're still going to do high intensity intervals like complete rest during those intervals, but we need to be able to like almost use those met cons a better ballic conditioning sessions, CrossFit what a lot of people would look at and see and say as accessory pieces to the strength. Yeah, there's a good way to do that, And I think that's kind of what you've done with that. 00:12:39 Speaker 1: But yeah, now is the time to lean into. 00:12:42 Speaker 2: Those things and do those things and build that foundation and that kind of the framework for the rest of the season. 00:12:49 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so like kind of what he's talking about. So like, if I'm going to do if Monday is my heavy backs squad day, then maybe after I do my heavy backsquads, I'm probably gonna do some running in wallball workout afterwards. 00:13:02 Speaker 2: There's some bike bike high intensity hard leg pumpy and. 00:13:06 Speaker 3: I That's the way I I like to train too, is because if I'm gonna squat heavy, I'm already gonna my legs is gonna be sore tomorrow. I'm not gonna want to do like lunging in box jumps and whatever tomorrow, So why not just like hammer it, hammer it, finish it up, and then the next day I can do like my bench press day, and then I can do. 00:13:22 Speaker 1: Some upper body. 00:13:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can do some body work, so I use that. I would use the strength that I'm gonna do. So i'm gonna squat, I'll do a lower body workout with that. If I'm gonna bench I'll do an upper body pushing work out with that. If I'm gonna you know, we have some weighted pull up progression here or actually this is in this one. There's a we're working towards a max set of stric pull ups. So that's what we're gonna focus on. Is if I can do fifteen and then by the end of we'll build up and by the hopefully by the end of the thirteen week program here, then I can do you know, maybe twenty or twenty five unbroken stric pulls like that would be the goal. So and with that stric pull up day, there's a pulling workout afterwards. So kind of tailoring the days to where I can get the most out of each day and not let a linger into the next day where it's gonna affect those workouts for that. Are you know I'm gonna be one to do the next day? 00:14:12 Speaker 4: Do you think? 00:14:13 Speaker 1: So? 00:14:13 Speaker 4: I'll just use this scenario because we just did part of it. We obviously work out all the time, so that doesn't apply to us. But let's say I'm a guy that just applied for Idaho, right, and I find out next month I drew the tag I've never been out or that guy? Right? Uh? Well, but yeah, let's say I've never been out West, I haven't been working out, but I got this tag for ELK mule Deer whatever what happened? 00:14:38 Speaker 1: Like fall six of us get on this tag. 00:14:40 Speaker 4: Then you go do it, don't. I think that's the whole point, right. 00:14:44 Speaker 3: That we need to talk about that too. Go ahead, but get into that. 00:14:46 Speaker 4: But so so and I let's say I need to lose I need I know, I need to lose some weight. I'm like thirty pounds overweight. Yeah, do you think that in that situation, should I still focus on strength and explosive stuff or should I start with I should still do those things, but maybe focus on maybe some longer stuff and at least get down to like a fighting weight. Yeah, for when I really ramp up training in the fund, that's. 00:15:09 Speaker 3: A good I mean, that's a good point. 00:15:11 Speaker 4: Because I think that's a scenario a lot of people find themselves true, especially if their first time. 00:15:15 Speaker 3: You're not really needing to Yeah, for most people, it's like, Okay, I want to try to lose twenty pounds before I go out there, Like I would feel better hiking around the pack if I dream bounds lighter. 00:15:23 Speaker 1: That's kind of the beauty the program. 00:15:25 Speaker 2: Though, if you're doing the program, you're gonna the residual effect of following one of these tracks will be to lose some weight. And the idea that hey, if I get stronger and put on a little bit more muscle, that it will burn up more fat and you will have the strength. There's you know, I think obviously we can get into the weeds and super like analytical on what we're trying to do with like get you strong. 00:15:48 Speaker 1: But for most of these. 00:15:49 Speaker 2: Programs, the byproduct is for a lot of guys is if you are overweight, you're gonna lose some weight. And if you're underweight and need to get stronger, you're gonna get stronger. So there's almost like a it's a dual purpose. Assuming your diet assuming yeah, assuming your diets have decent, assuming your recovery is good. We just talked about yesterdays and to sleep. There's all these other different things. 00:16:09 Speaker 1: Man. 00:16:10 Speaker 2: I just I think there's just so much benefit to you know, everybody's like, oh, you know, I don't do CrossFit, all right, I hate bodybuilding or I hate powerlifting or I hate whatever. Just do something, do something and have a goal, have something to train for. And you've heard it probably broken record on this podcast, but having that target or something to aim at September is that's the first step. Is like all right, hey, I have this target I want to get to, and then maybe within that target, have a goal of like I want to be able to run, you know, have a physical goal of like yeah, maybe I do need to lose twenty pounds fifteen pounds, but also I need like an actual physical goal, like I want to get my mile under eight minutes or whatever it is, and. 00:16:51 Speaker 3: So using those yeah, using those basically there's like stepping stones to get you to the goal that you want to go to. So like that's and that's kind of the idea of the whole conquer ninety thing in general, is that there's other people doing it. There's like if there's a Facebook group where you can talk to those other people who are also doing it challenges. Yeah, I mean we talk about it all the time about having a team around you. When you get somebody else who's training for the same thing, or maybe not even the same thing, but kind of has the same same end goal in mind of like like let's just say me and Scott are going to Idaho and we and we're probably gonna be hunt Mualdier together. And if we're in a position where we're like, hey, we both need to lose some weight, then we have that that goal and we have an accountability partner. We're going to be like, hey, if you're hunting with me, I don't want to be waiting on you. And he's thinking, hey, I don't be waiting on you. So we're gonna yeah, so we don't want to let each other down. And that's the that's kind of the idea of the Conquer ninety with the community aspect. We have other people who are doing it with you, so you're pushing to go, you know, to get to those goals. And it's not just like this this this made up goal kind of that like that you see and you can't really you know, you can't really talk about or touch or whatever, like like it's like, no, we are hunting mule deer in October. What do we need to do to get there and to be in shape to actually give ourselves a good chance. And then like within that goal, maybe I have a goal of Okay, I want to squad through fifteen and then maybe I want to run an eight minute mile, Like those are those small goals that build me. And then all of a sudden I get out there and I go, wow, I'm in a lot better shape than I was. Yeah, when I set the goal to get here. So that's kind of that's kind of the idea. And this is supposed to be like a stepping stone for the rest of the year. So use this Conquer ninety if you're going to sign up for it, use the Conquer ninety to then build off of that. 00:18:40 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's almost like setting quarterly goals like Okay, by March, end of March, I want to build to do this. Yeah yeah, yeah, and then middle of the summer, I want to be able to do this, and then by the season is almost your third one. Yeah, that's a good point. Like all most of these most states, you're putting in some some form of like a group application. Yeah, there's some ability to do that, so fine. Yeah, making group chating exactly. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good way to form like community and force each other to work out. 00:19:08 Speaker 3: I mean, that's pretty much how the Mayhem hunt group chat started were like we uh we hunted together. Yeah, like I mean was it there was It was a year before I went to Gunnison, like you guys went once and then like yeah yeah, and it just like that's kind of how it all started, where it was just like a group chat. We sent workouts back and forth of like hey I did this like getting ready, and that's literally how we started. I think that's how I think that's a good starting point for every anybody. You have buddies that are you're hunting buddies, you're sending workouts back and forth with and that you're accountable to each other when you get out there. You don't want to be the weakest link. Yeah, so me and Scott are definitely probably were the most likely. Oh, Sam put in for meal deer two on our on our group. He has his own group, but like he most likely will get it. He just put it in for it because I was like, hey, if you don't, he can only do one. So if he doesn't, like, hey, if you don't get the if we don't get the elk tag, then you can put in for meal deer and you almost definitely will get. 00:20:08 Speaker 4: Will he hunt elk if he gets in for that, he. 00:20:10 Speaker 3: Will hunt elk and not meal deer. If he doesn't get the elk tag, he'll hunt meal deer. That makes sense, Like is like his backup. So we all put in for Idaho for elk. 00:20:21 Speaker 1: I say, don't tell the unit people get real snow. 00:20:24 Speaker 3: Nate will freak out. Put it for Idoh for elk and mule deer, Me and Scott for meal deer. Rich and his his best buddy put in for elk. 00:20:37 Speaker 1: Sam, I got put in with my best buddy. 00:20:41 Speaker 3: And which one? Yeah, I know we yes, so we have I don't know what we'll do if we all draw, because there's a chance that there's a lot of there's a lot of chances here that we all get drawn in the same unit. 00:20:51 Speaker 1: Will be six six bulltags. 00:20:54 Speaker 4: Yeah no, because I'm not on it, okay, five? 00:20:56 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, you you just would you would just be filming. Yeah, one, two, three, four, four. 00:21:03 Speaker 4: Oh okay, yeah, I'm not on the elk one. 00:21:05 Speaker 3: Unlikely, but very unlikely, very very unlikely. But that's if we all go in the same unit. There's a chance that we all draw and go to different units. There's a chance that one group draws, like if you and Jason draw and then me or Sam, Me and Sam draw. So there's that chance, and there's a chance that none of us draw, which would suck. But then the most likely thing is that me and Scott will almost definitely get a mule deer rifle tag in October. That one, that one from what Nate said, That one's like a guarantee that you will get drawn for It's just like how good of a unit it is, and you will probably kill a mule deer. Just how good of a deer you will kill, So that'll be exciting no matter what we. 00:21:52 Speaker 4: All know how selective Angela and I are. 00:21:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, does that mean your urban hunt is off? 00:21:58 Speaker 4: No, will still be honest. 00:22:01 Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry ridiculous. 00:22:04 Speaker 3: Those properties need to be managed to be managed. So yeah, that's I'm pretty excited for that. I'm excited to uh go west of the Mississippi. Yeah, I'm excited. 00:22:16 Speaker 4: Angela is going to be like Lewis and Clark out there. I discovering things for the first time Colorado, I know, but I'm just saying. 00:22:23 Speaker 2: We actually had no idea what we were doing in cold and he never hunted with us once. 00:22:27 Speaker 4: Well, the good news is we won't have any idea what we're doing that before. 00:22:29 Speaker 1: Did you venture from camp that year? 00:22:31 Speaker 3: We I did what I went. Well, the problem is, here's the problem. I don't think I need this anymore. Here's the problem is I did go. The first few days. I hunted really hard and really dumb. Okay, I was with Luke and Dudds Me, Luke and Dudds went really hard in the middle of nowhere. And this is and this is going to be even better when Duds is here, is that we were walking through this bottom where like there's a bed and uh, we had hiked I mean we were at the probably the highest point of Colorado and we hiked down to sea level, I mean not possible. We hiked down to I mean what it was seemed like ten miles. 00:23:15 Speaker 1: And oh, is this where you guys found that dead head? 00:23:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is around where we found the deadhead, but we were just hiking U and Duds turns to me and Luke and he goes, guys, how cool is it to think that we might be the only too, we might be the only three people who have ever walked on this area. And we go not one hundred yards there's a smoldering campfire, and turns to Duds and he goes, hey, Dud, it's really cool that we're the only people that've ever walked here. It was. It couldn't have been better. I mean, you walk one hundred yards, there's a campfire that it's been there. I mean it wasn't smoldering, but it wasn't a week old. It wasn't even a week old. 00:23:54 Speaker 1: Nice. 00:23:54 Speaker 4: The best would have been if you kept walking and there was a couple of guys like. 00:23:57 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there were no elk there, so you could cut anything up. 00:24:04 Speaker 3: So yeah, uh no, that was the problem. Is that we I just did so much dumb stuff. I got so burnt out those first few days, just hiking and seeing absolutely nothing. If I would have seen anything, I would have been like I know how I am. I would have been bit by it bad. But I saw the I saw the ass end of one cow elk from no less than two miles away, two miles no less. I mean I could barely see in my binoculars, barely. Me and TJ just hiked that one day at one time, and we just could barely see another goal, there's elk here. And of course we hiked over there the next day. 00:24:42 Speaker 4: Saw nothing because they wouldn't they would, they'd be in that exact same spot. 00:24:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, they would. I mean, yeah exactly. Uh so? And I yeah, I mean I I I have no idea what I'm doing, So I have a lot of I have a lot of uh research to do about elk hunting. I mean, I understand hunting in general a little bit more or now so that that does help. It doesn't Yeah, no, no, no, it's not gonna help my chances. But it at least helped me from hiking completely aimlessly. 00:25:09 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's almost just as just as much as if you weren't in shape and didn't know how to hunt, it might it might be worse for your chances to kill elk or you're if you're in shape and don't not hunt, Because if you're not in shape and don't know how to hunt, you're probably gonna get to a good spot and you're getting glass and if you sit there long enough, you will most likely see something and then try to figure out how to make a play. Yeah, but if you're just walking walking, you have no clue what you're doing, probably just pushing stuff all over the mount YEA true, So it is an interesting concept. But if you can have a mild idea of what you're doing and be in shape, then that you're good. You're you're off to a better start than most people. 00:25:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, like I I mean, I guess this is just. 00:25:56 Speaker 1: Hard to because they'd never talked whatsoever. 00:25:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was we ever heard. 00:26:00 Speaker 1: A real bugle but maybe one time. 00:26:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, And I don't know, you especially when that time of year, like you have to have some like some semblance of where they're at. 00:26:15 Speaker 4: Yeah, I even remember if we heard a bugles there, if it was a different year in a different place. 00:26:22 Speaker 1: I don't know. 00:26:23 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was tough, tough. 00:26:25 Speaker 3: It was tough. It was so tough. But yeah, towards the end of the week, I did not Like I remember when it was like the second to last day, you guys were getting up to go out and me and TJ were still in bed, and you go, are you guys coming out and go? Maybe? Like I think we got up at like seven or eight, and like I think we worked out and then we just like there's like the bench, we worked out a little bit. I guess we'll go hike around a little bit. That might have been the day. 00:26:49 Speaker 4: I this is a this is a fun time of year though, because there's so much anticipation of like what hunts everyone's gonna get, yeah, and where we're gonna end up going, and what the season is going to look like. 00:27:04 Speaker 3: So like Riskey being engaged, Yeah. 00:27:06 Speaker 4: Right now is exciting and then you know soon there might be a lot of disappointment. 00:27:10 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, nothing whaling and gnashing of teeth. 00:27:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there is excitement right now because usually I was telling him earlier that like towards like when January comes, we're not there yet, but that's when like, especially with whitetail when I'm so exhausted from hunting because I feel like I have to go out every day, or at least every opportunity I get if I haven't killed something. I have to go out almost every single day because I'm like, well, if I'm not out there, that I can't kill something, so I better go out so I can try. And I'm I get so burnt out I don't even want to look at my camo by like by the middle of January, because I'm just so frustrated from hunting every single day. I'm exhausted. I haven't slept in months. I'm like, I don't I don't even want to hunt, and then it like summer comes around and it's like, okay, here we go. I start to shooting my bos more. I'm like, yeah, well yeah, but like when I'm thinking of deer, I'm like, all right, you know, I could, this might be the year, you know, and then it's just like the switch flips. I'm like, oh, yeah, I could. I think I think it's gonna be a good spot, Like I like that spot. I'll put a true stand there, and then it's just like this vicious cycle. 00:28:15 Speaker 1: Angela. 00:28:16 Speaker 3: It's so it's just so much funder in the fall. 00:28:19 Speaker 2: And then I told me, I still want to I did a better job this year of tape tempering. 00:28:24 Speaker 1: I didn't hunt much in October. 00:28:26 Speaker 3: I didn't hunt it all until you. 00:28:27 Speaker 4: Destroyed yourself in white til season last year. Last year, no reward, no rules. Well between hunting and Illinois and not killing anything man, and then here you hunted really hard. 00:28:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've. 00:28:39 Speaker 2: There's been a couple several times that I've wanted to go out and just with family and kids stuff. Kids being at different schools makes it really tough to get out in the morning or evening. So so I'm like, I still want to go out, and we've got a couple more weeks here. 00:28:52 Speaker 1: That you can still go out. 00:28:53 Speaker 2: So I'm I'm looking forward to like next week when the kids are out of school. 00:28:56 Speaker 1: You went out a couple of. 00:28:57 Speaker 3: Mornings this uh, this year, you did this same thing. I didn't hunt at all until like the first cold front, like late October was the first time I sat. And the amount of deer I've seen is so much better. I don't go in there early season and blow them out. I wait until it's good weather. 00:29:16 Speaker 2: I'm not so but I'm also not good enough of a hunter and to understand October, like you know, I know people were like, you know, the what do they call it the wall Octoberlall it's not true or whatever, but like you know, they find these acorn trees and stuff. 00:29:29 Speaker 1: I just I'm not there yet. 00:29:31 Speaker 4: There's definitely people that can consistently kill deer, yeah at that time of year. 00:29:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I'm not there yet, like judging the wind, the weather, all that type of stuff trying. But what I will say, yeah, this year was way better. And honestly, the Texas hunt helps a lot with the white tail, you know, like wanting to do that. So I think next week we'll go to Illinois hoping what did you say, you could. 00:29:54 Speaker 1: Go two weeks two weeks. 00:29:57 Speaker 2: After next week from when this comes out. I guess when did you say your FAMI don't know because we were looking. We looked at some days here and. 00:30:04 Speaker 4: There's probably probably early at the middle of the week. 00:30:07 Speaker 1: I can go, Okay, I think that was. 00:30:08 Speaker 2: It was like the twenty eighth looks like the weather breaks for like three days there. And when I say breaks, it goes from like mid sixties to low fifties. 00:30:16 Speaker 3: Which should should help. I I'm going to try to my brother said, he is interested in trying to shoot his first year, so I'm going to take him out. I set up a blind and uh so, I guess so we can sit together. I'm not sitting in a buddy stand with his big ass. So I'm gonna try to get him to shoot his shoot a deer. So that'll be exciting, he said. I mean, he said he's all for it, and he was like he's you know, he lives in Florida, So he's like, uh, what what kind of like you got you got stuff for me to wear? Like yeah, probably? I go, you you got any long underwear something? He goes, I don't have long aron I live in Orlando. Like okay. Uh he goes like, what's the tempt there? And I didn't know that it was gonna be so warm over Christmas break when he's here, but uh, he's like like that was And when I told him, I was like, I was like, you know, mid thirties. He goes, that'd be fine. I'll just like wear sweatpants and like a hoodie. 00:31:12 Speaker 4: No you won't. 00:31:13 Speaker 3: Oh my dude, We're gonna be there for three hours. You're gonna die. 00:31:17 Speaker 4: It's just sitting not moving. 00:31:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, you're gonna die. You're an idiot. He just has no idea. So I'll let him freeze. I'll try to put it. I'll try to get a jacket on him and maybe some bibs. I don't know. 00:31:28 Speaker 4: I run really hot, and when we went to Texas, I didn't. So I went from Georgia to Michigan to Texas. Yeah, and so I was just kind of maneuvering my white tail toe to where it had like yeah, super it was eighty in Georgia, but then it was sub thirty two in Michigan. It was like ten a couple of days when I hunt this, and then I looked at the Texas forecast and I the highs were like mid fifties or sixty whatever. I didn't really pay attention to the lows for some reason. So the first night and maybe this first or second morning, I didn't bring bibs is what I what I'm getting hold And so I had like three weight pants on, but I didn't bring like long John's or anything. And it was like thirty degrees and windy, and I had maybe like the a mid layer at best sweatshirt. I was not warm because I didn't pay attention at all, just like all the highs, like, yeah, there's a there's cactus all over the place. It's a dude, it's Texas. 00:32:24 Speaker 1: It was ultiple times it was really cold. 00:32:26 Speaker 2: Crap. Yeah, and then I got home and I hunted here and used that, Uh, what's the heaviest weight bibs? 00:32:35 Speaker 3: The thermic dude? 00:32:37 Speaker 1: That was great? 00:32:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, I've got the one, the one below below that. 00:32:41 Speaker 1: I used that. I'll set out, Holy crap. 00:32:45 Speaker 4: I'll set out in Michigan and the court is that it's called the core, and it'll be ten degrees. I'm in a tree stand. I'm fine. Yeah, I run hot, but in Texas with no bibs, I was freezing. 00:32:53 Speaker 2: I have. 00:32:54 Speaker 3: That's pretty much what i's. That is pretty much exactly what I wear. I just like, I layer up or layer down the core and that's usual good enough for me. 00:33:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so sweatpants. He's going to be hurting. 00:33:05 Speaker 3: Oh, he's gonna be hurting. 00:33:06 Speaker 4: It helps me. 00:33:06 Speaker 3: Then blind, It does help, I mean, but ground blind. It's not a box blind. 00:33:11 Speaker 1: There's some extra first light here stuff here, give him try something, guess anything. I think so. I think the next one will do a. 00:33:22 Speaker 2: We'll do a couple, we'll do a series of we need to do series on gym builds. 00:33:27 Speaker 1: Because it is the off season, it's a good time to do that. 00:33:30 Speaker 3: For anyone, for anyone who is going to ask about the concher Nindy, I don't think we have a link. But when's this podcast coming out next week? I don't think there's a link for it to sign up yet. I think sign up starting on the first. 00:33:41 Speaker 4: So one week when this comes out about. 00:33:43 Speaker 3: The will post that whenever we can. 00:33:45 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think that's a good way if if you're just get it, deciding you want to get in shape, or even if you want to keep doing it. Yeah, it's a good way to get I think the most important thing to sticking with fitness is community aspect of it. It's a good way to do do these tracks alongside some other people. 00:34:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, get somebody that is in your same whether you go to a gym or not. Get somebody in your same town. 00:34:08 Speaker 4: And it's someone you've applied for tag with. 00:34:10 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and and just start and start here with the Conquer ninety and then it's it's so much easier when you have somebody else who's like, hey, dude, you want to work out, then you you want to go? And like I was, I was actually talking to my dad about this the other day. He said, it's just like he said when he's I mean, this is just human nature. He's like when I was when we moved here, he had you just had like someone that he worked out with at the gym, and he's like, my buddy text me, like I just would go, Like even if I didn't want to go, I just would go anyways because he asked me, and he's gonna be there, so I'm gonna show up. It's just like, it's just human nature. You're gonna show up, somebody else is counting on you. You're most likely just gonna go anyways. 00:34:45 Speaker 4: But that's how I ended up doing a twenty four hour row for now the third year in a row. 00:34:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, because Rich just. 00:34:51 Speaker 4: At this point just assumes I'm going to. 00:34:53 Speaker 1: Do it preparrell of a drug exactly. All right, sweet, right next week. Peace