00:00:00 Speaker 1: And sure enough we turn around and as we turn around, cow elk on the backside of that finger ridge, cow elk, cow elk, And I take my binoes up and I'm like, that's a legal bull. 00:00:12 Speaker 2: And so I'm like, Curtis, give me range whatever. 00:00:14 Speaker 1: So I grabbed my tripod and in the moment I'm like kind of start fumbling with. 00:00:19 Speaker 2: The clips and I was like, calm down. 00:00:22 Speaker 1: So I calmed down, slow, get them, get everything out, put the gun in there. 00:00:26 Speaker 2: He gives me the range. 00:00:28 Speaker 1: I look at the MOA or he may read out the MOA, and then we subtracted the percentages we thought and I get on him and I'm like, is he the one in the back? 00:00:36 Speaker 2: He goes what And I. 00:00:38 Speaker 1: Just shot And as soon as I shot it, he just stopped and did that kind of like thing in Idaho where he was like he was done, and. 00:00:45 Speaker 2: Curtis is like another one. 00:00:47 Speaker 1: So I didn't want to take the chance, and so he was like four hundred and sixty yards I think that is what. 00:00:52 Speaker 2: He was out here. 00:00:56 Speaker 1: The stakes are real effective preparations starts with fittings, but it requires so much more. This show explores the tools, knowledge, resilience, and skills needed to be ready when it matters the most. Join me Rich Browning as we apply the decades of wisdom I've gained through training and competition to hunting in the back country. This is in Pursuit, brought to you by Mount Knums. 00:01:26 Speaker 2: In collaboration with Mayhem Hunt. 00:01:29 Speaker 1: All Right, um, this is post Trent Ellis. That's been forever ago. Yeah, that's the hard part about these. Now we're rolling out the new ones, rolling out. 00:01:37 Speaker 2: The new ones. All right, Yeah, so Trent. Trent just said his baby. 00:01:40 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys following on social ad said his baby killed a good deer on public ground in Mississippi. 00:01:45 Speaker 2: So congrats Trent doing some stand up. 00:01:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, so him and Watkins speak the same language. 00:01:51 Speaker 1: Minwaukins speak the same language. He was a good dude, good worked out with us a little bit. I think that was kind of one of the first CrossFit workouts he's done a long time. 00:01:59 Speaker 3: He said, he made fun of you for Collins. 00:02:04 Speaker 2: They're buffalo. 00:02:04 Speaker 1: I call him both like, I'm I'm not one of those people that's like, well, let me technically tell you that it's it's actually bison. 00:02:10 Speaker 2: I don't I always tell people, hey, call it whatever. 00:02:13 Speaker 1: It's been called a buffalo for so long that you can just kind of use it's interchangeable. 00:02:16 Speaker 2: So, uh, we got. 00:02:18 Speaker 1: Angelo behind the mic today. What fresh off of his h Scotland trip. 00:02:24 Speaker 4: My World, My World Tour, Your World Tour, Stay Line of Florida. 00:02:27 Speaker 2: How did how did the fishing trip go? Good? 00:02:31 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it was so good. I forgot I haven't seen you and told. 00:02:34 Speaker 2: You I haven't seen you in like three weeks. 00:02:37 Speaker 5: We we like rode out and the captain got a call while we're going out to the fishing spot he's gonna take us to. He said, Hey, my buddy just called me. There's a school redfish in this hole that I go to sometimes hit or miss. He's out there like an hour ago. You guys want to try it, and we're like, sure, let's try it. And we got there. It's there's no action for twenty minutes and then like just like that, me and my brother both hit and we both reel in like a good sized red fish. 00:03:04 Speaker 4: There's like a certain right now. 00:03:06 Speaker 2: There's a keep a certain size. 00:03:07 Speaker 5: It's it has to be a certain length and under a certain length. So it's like there's a window because like their adolescents or readers somewhere in between there, and so we caught when they were something that were too big. Anyways, long story short, we caught like thirty kill yeah. I mean it was like two and a half hours of NonStop just like and like pretty much you throw it out there and as soon as it's water, if they don't get it, and you might as well reel it in and try again because as soon as they see it that they go to it. So we ended up we caught our limit of redfish and trout, and I caught I. 00:03:40 Speaker 4: Caught a catfish actually too. 00:03:42 Speaker 5: Yeah, and then uh no, catfish they're they're they're pretty nasty. 00:03:47 Speaker 4: As what we said, I've never had a saltwater catfish. 00:03:49 Speaker 6: Whether or not that to say, I didn't know there was. 00:03:51 Speaker 5: They're not as good as catfish run here. So we caught a bunch of fish. It was like probably one of the best days of fishing I've ever had. And then we cooked it all up Boco, Grand Florida. The it's usually oh no, that's not the best part that happened. Sorry, there's actually a really something really cool happened. So like both Grand is like the tarpain capital of Florida. So there's there's just there's a huge bay and during i think during the late spring, there's it's pretty much called like Tarpin Bay, Like you go out there in w tarpinfish. I caught like a two hundred and fifty pound tarpain out there, which is I think like the world records around to eighty or three hundred. So it's like it's it's one of the biggest tarpin that they've ever seen. And so that night we got down on the fishing trip and the captain's like, well, yeah, you can fish for tarp and just off the beach if you want to. 00:04:39 Speaker 4: My dad brought like all his fishing gear. He has a pretty heavy due. 00:04:42 Speaker 5: Rod, and so we cast net out uh and just catch some lady fish. You know, they're like eight inches long, they're like little fish. Use it as bait, live bait. We hook it on a big hook and we toss it. We toss it out there and nothing for a little while. My brother and my dad's like, hey, you guys, go look for some more bay like this. That they get the bait gets pretty dead. They die because they're on a hook and they're like they're not moving right, So every now and then we have to catch more bait. Anyways, one time, same thing, like I said, he throws his ladyfish out there, hits the water, and this tarpin freaking just grabs onto it. We don't know what it is because we're kind of fishing for sharks. Really grabs the ladyfish and my dad starts fighting it and we just see this tarp and they're like, you know, they're silver, They're like totally silver. 00:05:28 Speaker 4: Jumps out of the water and flops. 00:05:30 Speaker 5: We're like, holy shit, you caught a tarp and he just like keeps frieling in really in and uh, I mean it's like fighting him good. And he gets it on the beach and it basically breaks off right at the wave where the waves are crashing and it kind of falls back in. But we got a good look at it, like it was a good sized tarp and it was. It was pretty crazy. None of us expected it. Yeah, about two and a half three feet. It's maybe a little short than that, like three feet. 00:05:52 Speaker 4: So yeah, we had a great fishing the Tuna Club. 00:05:56 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was that was probably the coolest part, just like just like throwing something off the beach. It was like it was like ten o'clock at night where it's out there fishing, and then we end up staying out there pretty late. 00:06:08 Speaker 2: You got a whisper. 00:06:10 Speaker 5: We ended up staying out there pretty late because I mean we were just catching a lot of fishes, a lot of fish to be caught. So no, it was some of the best fishing I've ever been a part of. 00:06:19 Speaker 6: Actually it was cool. Tarp and just tuna. 00:06:22 Speaker 2: I don't know what. 00:06:22 Speaker 5: No tarpans like this. It's like, I mean, it's it looks like gosh. The best way to explain is it's like a It's like a huge bass. The only way the reason I say that is because their mouths are are like real bony and they open up really wide, so like when you hold it up, it doesn't that looks nothing like a bass, I guess, but like if the the jaw is similar. Because of that, it's just a big bony jaw and it's just a long silver fish. Like I don't know how to explain it. 00:06:52 Speaker 3: How's silver experienced great fishing success? You guys got to experience the great out hunting success. I got sick for the last three hours of well, I was sick the whole hunt. 00:07:04 Speaker 1: Yeah you started, I missed the last and you're like, oh no, no, I'm not sick. 00:07:08 Speaker 2: And then they let me back up. All right. 00:07:11 Speaker 1: So we got there. We left on Thursday, got there Thursday night. 00:07:15 Speaker 2: Yep. 00:07:15 Speaker 3: So we could scout Friday. 00:07:16 Speaker 1: So we could scout Friday. We've never ever scouted before in our lives. We always just show up the day of and hunt. 00:07:23 Speaker 2: Well. 00:07:23 Speaker 1: I think there is a ton of merit to scouting. It did no good for us. 00:07:28 Speaker 3: No, because we found we found herds in every spot we went to. Actually, one of the one of the bulls we did find on Friday did get killed during the trip. 00:07:38 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 00:07:39 Speaker 3: But the other herd that we found that you wanted to hunt that bull never saw them again. They never did that. 00:07:45 Speaker 2: Again, never did it again. Yeah. 00:07:47 Speaker 1: So we the morning, first morning, we went to low Low spot on the property. We hunted way down at the bottom. We saw pretty good bull, a five at sure it's the one that my uncle ended up killing. 00:08:01 Speaker 3: Well, the funny thing is we're watching all these whole herd, which we had a we think had a mule deer bike. There were two We're all staring at this and then all of a sudden. 00:08:10 Speaker 2: I turned around. I turned around like. 00:08:12 Speaker 3: Three to fifty yards behind us. We're having a full conversation. Yeah, and we're just all I've got cameras. Y. 00:08:18 Speaker 4: This works. 00:08:18 Speaker 1: There's like five or six kind of big draws that we can hunt, and all the way off to the far end. I almost call it like the wall, Like there's a wall on the one side that we can hunt, and there's just elk pouring in, pouring in, pouring in, and we're just watching them. There's one what we thought was one shooter bull. We didn't even like press up on them. We didn't want to booger them up too much. That morning, we were like, we got eyes on them, we know they're. 00:08:41 Speaker 2: Here, they're down here, let's, you know, check it out. 00:08:44 Speaker 1: And like Scott said, we were just sitting there looking at them, and then all of a sudden, I just kind of like went to stretch and. 00:08:49 Speaker 3: Turn, and sure enough, Clere's a bull. 00:08:52 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he was like five. He was five hundred from where we were at. 00:08:54 Speaker 1: And then me and my uncle got up and kind of went up on one of the fingers just to get a good look at him, and there were more elk in this this finger by. 00:09:01 Speaker 3: A huge fence post. You could just say, you. 00:09:03 Speaker 1: Get your gun on there, get your range, which later on we realize, if you're gonna hunt altitude, make sure you do your calculations for altitude. 00:09:10 Speaker 2: Because once you're up there, it's a little bit different. 00:09:14 Speaker 1: So that was Thursday morning, Thursday afternoon or Friday morning, Friday afternoon, Me, you and Watkins did our hike up to what we call hell Hole. It was all the way up to the top. We probably gained fifteen hundred feet, I would guess, or more. 00:09:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, I looked on an ax it was something like that. 00:09:32 Speaker 1: Yeah, fifteen hundred feet and it was a it's cool is this is way up on the backside, so it's up about ten thousand feet on the tallest part of it, and then it there's a nice big saddle between two kind of finger ridges and there's a wallow right at the top of it that they've hit. When Ben went with us a couple of years ago, we sat it. It's the longest we've ember sat in the woods and never seen anything. And that's where all the action was this time. But it was three twenty or three twenty something. We're just sitting up on this ridge glass and kind of looking. We can see for miles on this spot. It's it's beautiful, beautiful view. But you there's just you can see a ton of country. You can see down into some of those finger ridges that we were talking about that we hunt in the bottom. You can't quite see the very bottom of those finger ridges, but you can see the top. And so we just thought it was a good place of glass. Well, sure enough we turn around and come right comes out of the the one high side behind us what eight to ten cows four a nice cool shooter buoys a five by but he underneath his fourth and fifth on his right side, he had a. 00:10:39 Speaker 2: It was almost a full point. It looked like from four hundred yards. 00:10:42 Speaker 1: With the binos of those sig binos are incredible, it looked like almost a full point. 00:10:48 Speaker 2: So we'd been a five by six. He's a cool bull and dude. They just hung out there. 00:10:51 Speaker 1: We we end up leaving at five fifteen or five twenty because we just didn't want to mess with him. Yeah, and at some point ten fifteen twenty more elk pop out of there and and so they you know, we we ended up leaving so we didn't mess them up, and. 00:11:07 Speaker 3: They worked to within like one hundred yards of us. And then the crazy thing is that heard was out in standing in the sun or it's like cloud cover, but on and off sun for an hour and a half two hours. 00:11:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we left them. They didn't even leave. They were still out there. When we left. 00:11:22 Speaker 1: We ducked down the ridge and took off to where we didn't mess anything up. So that was Walkin's kind of first day of elk hunting. Fitness wise, looking around wise, what did you you know on that first day? 00:11:35 Speaker 2: What were your initial thoughts? 00:11:41 Speaker 6: So when we left the cabin to go up that one the first spot were just straight up just that first in clowns like, oh man, this sucks. 00:11:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, well the very beginning is almost the worst part. 00:11:52 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it's the worst part. Yeah, thought, heart rates up and we just stopped, and of course we get to that one little section, We're just like, oh, do we go left, do we go ride? Do we go straight up? And we made that backtrack. I was like, oh man, like I don't know about this, and then you guys took off. 00:12:07 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:12:07 Speaker 6: I was like well, here we go, pray it works. But the whole my whole time hocking that part was I don't think it was a stepper where I did so much stepper. It's like I wish I did more sled pushes, but more importantly sled drags. 00:12:23 Speaker 3: For your quads, like reverse sled drags backwards. 00:12:26 Speaker 6: No, so you know where we just put like the I wish I did this so much more. I think that'd be and lower back, Yeah, like my lower back never really got tied with that. 00:12:37 Speaker 1: That climb to me, isn't super steep. There's some like pitchy stuff in there where it's like the very beginning of steep, and then it's. 00:12:43 Speaker 2: Just just said. 00:12:44 Speaker 1: You know what sucked was that first day I'm like, oh, hell yeah, we got this. This is this isn't bad. It was day two dawod the tripod and the rifle adding an extra twenty five pounds. 00:12:57 Speaker 2: Was miserable and it was hot. 00:12:59 Speaker 3: It was me, Curtis, I just wore you start doing the thing where you're all pushing each other faster than you need to. 00:13:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, when somebody's walking beside you, you think you're walking slow. 00:13:08 Speaker 3: I wasn't sick. Yet and hadn't said it, and. 00:13:10 Speaker 1: So we just hammered this hill. So then imagine walking from the cabin straight up to hell Hole. There's a trail up there now and it's just beautiful. 00:13:21 Speaker 2: Oh it's awesome. 00:13:21 Speaker 6: Yeah, you get to that one section where it just looks like you're in like a cast. 00:13:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was cool. 00:13:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, So Walkings is great. He uh you know, me and Scott we only stopped once, right. 00:13:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, we stopped one time for five six minutes. 00:13:34 Speaker 2: Mabe versus when we stopped for Billings and d Lane. Yeah. 00:13:37 Speaker 3: I mean this is like a whole ordeal too, where you wear something that as soon as you get there you take it off because you sweat through the entire shirt. 00:13:44 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:13:44 Speaker 1: I think I talked to you guys into wearing T shirt because at first, you guys, we're gonna. 00:13:47 Speaker 2: Wear long sleeve, right, No, he was, I was, You're still wearing the long sleep. 00:13:52 Speaker 3: The first day, a T shirt second day, but I brought layers. I was just gonna ditch. 00:13:55 Speaker 1: I just wore my orange vest on the second climb. Yeah, but I didn't start all orange orange. 00:14:01 Speaker 2: Best. 00:14:02 Speaker 6: That was good, to make that clear. I didn't stop at all. 00:14:05 Speaker 2: Oh, you didn't. You just kept kept trudging. Yeah. So we got up there pretty quick. It was like forty something minutes I think. 00:14:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we got down quick too. 00:14:14 Speaker 2: We bailed out and came down. 00:14:17 Speaker 3: It felt good after the scouting, I mean, yeah, we saw elk every single place we went. We identified bowls every single place we went because uh, you your uncle Matt. We had three bulltags in camp. Jim oh, he did. Technically, he wasn't really hunting for a bull though he were. He mostly wanted a mule deer buck. 00:14:37 Speaker 2: Yep. 00:14:37 Speaker 3: So we did have four bulltags in camp, but really really he didn't care about his. He wanted a buck. Yeah. And so we identified enough to where we could split up the. 00:14:47 Speaker 2: Next day and all go our own. 00:14:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, try to make a move. 00:14:50 Speaker 2: Yeah. So the next morning we all went down to the bottom. 00:14:52 Speaker 1: At that point, Curtis was there, so me and you, Curtis and Jimmy kind of hunted together. 00:14:57 Speaker 2: You got paired up with Billings and bill that morning. 00:14:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, we went down to the bottom. We separated and went to that far heard thinking we can maybe find them. 00:15:10 Speaker 2: They never quite wanted to cooperate, and we don't even do we see a bull in there. No, we never split a second. Maybe we might have. 00:15:16 Speaker 1: He was pretty high up and there was no way we could get to him. He was off our what we were allowed to hunt. We could hunt some blm and some private but he was on the neighbor's property, so we couldn't couldn't quite get to him. 00:15:29 Speaker 6: That day was fine. That was when we took when you glassed over and seen me Bill and Hill. 00:15:37 Speaker 2: The only bluff on the place. 00:15:39 Speaker 1: My sixty five year uncle has his walking stick, and I look and Matt's coming around, Watkins is coming around, and then sure enough Bill comes walking around with his walking stick a foot off the edge of this bluff, the only bluff on the property, thinking what is Matt doing? Yeah, taking my uncle on that. So you guys, we we got to that farest. That was the time we were starting walking back down the trail and the calf a cow and then a shooter I legal bull ran right by, and uh, we couldn't quite Jimmy couldn't quite get a shot on it. And but we had a pretty close encounter. It was like four hundred. 00:16:19 Speaker 6: The weird thing was every time if you've seen a good mule deer, then here comes a cow and here comes a bull, and our situation it was anyways, well just like movie was up on that hell ho, remember we saw that mule deer first, and then the cows come, and then the bulls came. 00:16:35 Speaker 1: Oh we saw yeah, we saw yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we saw a ton of mual deer this trip. 00:16:40 Speaker 2: I didn't never had a mule deer tag and never really had the itched mule deer hunt. But now after this trip, they were everywhere, were everywhere, so stupid though. 00:16:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, they prance around and the does are oblivious to anything. 00:16:52 Speaker 2: We were that last night. How far are we like twenty yards from. 00:16:55 Speaker 3: Him for ten fift ill peak sickness? 00:17:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that morning we just walked around a little bit. You guys didn't really get on anything that morning either, did you. 00:17:04 Speaker 6: Huh? The first Saturday, Yeah, so that was the day. That was the day that me Bill, Oh. 00:17:13 Speaker 2: You guys tried to close in. 00:17:14 Speaker 6: Yeah, we tried to. 00:17:15 Speaker 2: Couldn't quite get there. 00:17:16 Speaker 6: I think the furthest the closest that we got was like sick something. Of course Bill. 00:17:21 Speaker 2: Bill couldn't was that on the bull or on the cows? 00:17:25 Speaker 6: That was so that was the one day he got Sunday exact same one, had to do same one. 00:17:30 Speaker 2: He was in the same same drainage. That afternoon. 00:17:34 Speaker 1: We sat up topiked up top, sat up top till dark. 00:17:38 Speaker 3: Really there nothing came out there. 00:17:40 Speaker 1: We had that far out of the far seven yards, so I ended up taking a shot on one from seven hundred yards. I felt super comfortable with that rifle. Shot really well. What we did not account for was altitude. So we sighted the gun in at fifteen hundred feet and we were up ten thousand. So when I looked it up, you about a one percent of moa per one hundred feet of elevation game for thousand feet of elevation game, and. 00:18:13 Speaker 3: So we were up what nine thousand from almost ten thousand? 00:18:15 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, or sorry, yeah, up nine thousand from We sighted it in, so shot high. 00:18:21 Speaker 2: Curtis gave me the shot high. 00:18:22 Speaker 1: Thought maybe it was just me shot high again, So then I tried to compensate and shoot under. 00:18:30 Speaker 2: And when I shot on the video. 00:18:33 Speaker 3: Well, the thing is we couldn't see at this point. We couldn't see the video well enough correct, So we just saw them storm off and so you and I have to go down what a few hundred feet back up a few hundred feet. 00:18:46 Speaker 1: Over seven hundred yards to check and make sure we found nothing. 00:18:50 Speaker 2: No blood, no nothing. 00:18:51 Speaker 3: And at this point though we're still all we have is the little camera screen to go off of us. So we didn't know until we got to the big screen what had happened. But then we saw that. 00:19:00 Speaker 2: When we saw the big screen. 00:19:01 Speaker 1: I don't know how this thing it wasn't a head shot because the way I compensated, I went down to about it's knee maybe and shot and the way it was looking, the bullet had to have gone right over it. You've maybe seen the video better since I haven't, but I don't know how it. 00:19:20 Speaker 3: It was cool because you can see the vapor trail. Yeah, so you see the first one miss. Your correction was actually almost correct, like perfect, And somehow it it scared that bull so bad a headache because he's looking the other way and he just sees a hill blow up right behind him. He probably felt that bullet was by his head. 00:19:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, So we couldn't couldn't, couldn't clue. We didn't hunt the rest of that evening because. 00:19:47 Speaker 3: Well, by the time we looked for him, it was dark. Yeah. 00:19:50 Speaker 6: Chance, so when they all. 00:19:54 Speaker 2: Almost get down. 00:19:56 Speaker 6: I'm just like, wow, we don't need to get down. There's just like twenty yards in front of us. If we get down, I thought they're just gonna run us over. 00:20:02 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:20:02 Speaker 6: Wild is sound going through the woods. 00:20:04 Speaker 2: It's crazy crashing horses. 00:20:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys were on the far side of the up We were up above you guys, and they came running down. 00:20:12 Speaker 2: Come run down the hill. 00:20:13 Speaker 1: So next morning we all went back to the bottom. We didn't see it or hear anything, right, No, And then Jimmy decided to go after that cow. 00:20:24 Speaker 3: Yeah. We me, you, Curtis, Jimmy were sitting together. Yep, there's a cow just standing out in the field wide over a meadow. Yeah, and so okay, you should go because he had a cow tag, a buck tag, and a. 00:20:34 Speaker 2: Bullt old tag, and so we talked him into it. 00:20:37 Speaker 3: Him and Curtis went after that. You and I just went and walked around. 00:20:40 Speaker 2: We went and just checked out. We went on a little Scott and rich uh ye. 00:20:44 Speaker 3: Then I think for context, Ashton spotting your uncle's bull. Yeah, And then he was like, so, for context, how many years has your uncle been trying to get a bull? I think he said he's Ashton is the one that saw, which is even funnier. I forgot how many hunts he's been on, but for thirteen years, I think he's. 00:21:02 Speaker 1: Tried to get a bull. He's never gotten a bull. He's got several cows. So Harrison, my oldest cousin, and Ashton get in Saturday night. Yeah, Saturday night. 00:21:11 Speaker 3: No, Saturday, yeah, Saturday day night. 00:21:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so they do some scouting. They kind of you know, find some stuff up and around the cabin. And then so that next morning we're trying to figure out what we're gonna do. We all end up going to the bottom of the property. Bill, Ashton, Harrison all kind of divide up. Billings and Watkins divide up, and then us three or four divide up. So we were on this cow. Jimmy ends up shooting this cow well in the process. And so Harrison is a pretty good outdoorsman and a hunter like loves to hunt, hunts a lot of white tail. I think he's been on a couple of elkhons with Bill. Ashton does not hunt, but he likes being outside, likes adventure, and apparently has a really good eye for elk. Dude can spot him out of nowhere. So has a little bit of add adhd whatever you want to call it, and can't sit still. So even when he was with us after this, he would be like, Hey, I'm gonna go look up on this hill and i'll you know, maybe you know, show you guys with my hat if I see anything, because he had an orange hat, and so I guess at some point he split off from Bill and Harrison and then somehow found this bull. This bull bedded up right in front of him. He's kind of looking at this bull and all of a sudden he beds down. So he comes back, gets Harrison and Ashton or Harrison and Bill. They get into position and I think it was like a three hundred and fifty yard shot and they end up killing this bull. So, man, that was awesome to see Bill, the reaction from him killing that thing. You guys got to walk up before I got to get there because we were on the cow duty. We got Jimmy's cow. He ended up shooting it across a valley and we found it and got in there. It was heavy, nasty. That was some of the thickest oak brush. I don't even know, you know it what was crazy was. I was watching this thing the whole time while Jimmy and Curtis tried to close the distance on it, and it literally just kind of feeds around and then beds down, and then the way the sun goes, you can't see it anymore. 00:23:00 Speaker 2: It's just gone. 00:23:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, they can disappear. That stuff disappeared so quickly, and you knew that the cow was still. I knew it was there, and so once I knew what to look for, once I saw it, you could like catch a glimpse of it facing because it was bed at downhill. 00:23:12 Speaker 2: It was so weird, so crazy. 00:23:13 Speaker 1: So we get that day we had cow down and then Bill got his bull, and what we could do is we just drugged that thing down to the main trail and we got a truck up there and lifted the whole thing in the back of the truck. 00:23:24 Speaker 2: Uh, cow and cow. 00:23:26 Speaker 1: And so that afternoon we went back up to our spot, sat there for a while, and then once it got to like five o'clock, we decided to, hey, let's hit the bottom. There had been some action the previous night in a wallow kind of right across one of the main drainages. We hunted and there was a ton of action that night before, so we thought, and that morning I guess. 00:23:51 Speaker 3: I can't remember, and we weren't seeing anything. 00:23:53 Speaker 2: We weren't seeing anything. There was no movement, no nothing. 00:23:55 Speaker 1: We probably scared everything off the hill the night before, and so we made a mad day got down there, and sure enough. 00:24:03 Speaker 2: There was a bull in that wallow. 00:24:04 Speaker 1: So we tried to get in position and he was already kind of working his way up to either bed or feet or we were just behind him. This is when Scott slowly started to This. 00:24:14 Speaker 3: Is when the sickness was rapidly taking hold, I would say. 00:24:19 Speaker 1: And that's when you guys were way down at the bottom again and you had your bull come out from one thousand yards right at dark. 00:24:26 Speaker 6: Said the cos I was, I couldn't go back out there after what thirty something hours? 00:24:31 Speaker 2: I don't want to go. 00:24:32 Speaker 3: Well, this is a good actually this is good, so Watkins said. Physically he was fine, but mentally I was. You were like, I can one more day of the spot? 00:24:40 Speaker 2: Yeah? 00:24:40 Speaker 6: Not that spot. It was just glassing that long for not just like a few hours, It was that the whole day, the fifteen hours, and we just like to go back there. 00:24:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, you and Matt decided to just stay down there, stay. 00:24:51 Speaker 6: There the whole time, and then the next day the whole time I was like, I can't, I can't go back up. 00:24:56 Speaker 3: Do you think it was harder to for you? Then it was harder to like sit on the glass and stay focused on this one spot then have to like fifteen hundred feet up. 00:25:05 Speaker 2: Yes. 00:25:06 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:25:06 Speaker 6: God just wanted to stay moving because that is what I was I've been doing for so long getting ready for it. I just wanted to stay moving and then just sitting still and with the billains. Don't get me wrong, it was a blast. Every fifteen minutes we was cutting up, but I just wanted. 00:25:20 Speaker 2: To move, new spot move. Yeah, yeah, you. 00:25:22 Speaker 6: Had a new spot because you like, we looked at this area, then this area, then this area. But it's just like you can only do that so much before you just kind of go stir crazy. 00:25:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't do. I mean we sat some. It was physical to get to where we were going originally, but then we would sit for maybe an hour or two up at the top. But yeah, we kind of got burnt out on that spot too. In the afternoon, so we were we had made the decision we weren't going back there. Yeah, so I'm trying to think this would have been second till last morning. 00:25:52 Speaker 3: Well, we saw that, we saw that hurd of there that night, so we were like, hey, let's just go back there in the morning. 00:25:57 Speaker 1: And sure enough, we got above that wall though, thinking we could get in to it, and then in that process we got a little too close. I thought the wind was perfect, but I guess it switched or the way that. 00:26:08 Speaker 2: Whole drainage works. 00:26:11 Speaker 1: They winded us and busted out of there. So we never quite got a good eye of them. But apparently, you know, looking at them through glass there, it was a really good bull in there, and we saw him kind of go up on the other side of the road. So for the rest of the day we just tried to kind of get back on them. 00:26:27 Speaker 3: We never did see that bull again. 00:26:29 Speaker 2: I don't think I did. I don't know. 00:26:30 Speaker 1: I saw a couple of bucks working through timber at different spots. We would, you know, the drainage it was, it's kind of hot, high and tall on one side, and so we'd get on the other one and try to glass into it and just change our perspective. And we saw a ton of cows. I ended up seeing another bull later, but he was moving on. There was really no reason for him to be moving on, but he just did not. They're super skittish at that point. I mean they've been hunted for a while. But yeah, we just spent that whole day just glassing and moving, glassing and moving, and decided to try to get back to that wallow, thinking maybe something would come back in there. And it's the first time ever it's dark, and they're starting to get dark and there's nothing going on. I mean, we can't really see anything. Scott is literally just laying full every layer he has on, has his hood. 00:27:17 Speaker 3: On, nit I don't really get cold either, no. 00:27:19 Speaker 1: Nit hat, and he's just laying there shivering like you can just see him every once in a while, like doing this randomly, snoring, falling asleep, and I'm just sitting there glassing and then finally it's like last a little bit of light and I'm like, let's get him back to camp, and Scott at no point said no, let's stay. 00:27:38 Speaker 2: He was like okay, And so we end up when we got. 00:27:42 Speaker 3: Back, well what happened. I kind of planned for us to like switch spots in the middle of the day, which I didn't plan well, but I had been alternating between musinax and I have a profen to try to control my fever. Well, I had no medicine since like eight am this day because we stayed out the whole day, and so by the time I got back to camp, I'm trying to pour whatever it was. Either I would proferm USINEX. I'm trying to give myself these pills and I'm shaking so bad I can hardly even get it into my hand to take it. So I would then try to take these showers that are like thirty five minutes long to get my body back of the temperature. I've never I've not felt that bad in three years. 00:28:22 Speaker 6: We took that melon. That was pretty epic. 00:28:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, Bill was just snored the whole time. 00:28:27 Speaker 6: He just just woke up. 00:28:32 Speaker 1: And maybe ten minutes after he laid down, you hear him go like he had like one of those falling dreams. 00:28:39 Speaker 2: Oh, it was so good. 00:28:41 Speaker 3: The thing that propelled me on the Wyoming hunt when I got sick on this hunt is I I always I always told every single day I was like didn't want to be out there trying to film do whatever. I knew. I knew the second I called it quits for the shortest amount of time, you were gonna kill something. And not only did I want to be part of the experience from like a like a personal level, Yeah, yeah, but you, but I wanted to like finish the project properly and like have the video wrap up well. Yep, And sure enough I spent about four hours in the middle. 00:29:15 Speaker 2: It's going to wrap up real well with me and Curtis. 00:29:17 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:29:19 Speaker 2: Video. 00:29:19 Speaker 3: I spent about four hours the middle of that night with my long John's, my sweatshirt pulled hood over my head, five blankets, shivering, just awake in bed, just shivering uncontrollably. And so your alarm went off. You're like, Scott, you're feeling okay, how you feeling or whatever. I'm like, I'm I'm worse. 00:29:39 Speaker 1: So the plan was we were we had to be in we had to be back in Nashville for a flight to Scotland Wednesday night. So in my head I'm thinking, oh, we'll wait till Wednesday morning and fly out early Wednesday morning. And I slowly like I'll check in the home and like check the temperature, and I could slowly tell that that was not gonna fly to show up on Wednesday and have yeah, and have Hillary bring all three kids in my bag. So I'd made the executive decision to fly out Tuesday night at seven fifteen yep, and we had about a four hour drive three and a half four hours drive. So I knew, all right, the last morning it's gonna be our full morning. We had to we needed to leave by one o'clock at the latest. 00:30:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you never know what's gonna happen going through the past. 00:30:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so we. 00:30:30 Speaker 1: Make the executive decision book a flight, and we're like, all right, we have to be you know, be done hunting probably by eleven forty five twelve maybe depending how far we are from camp. And so that morning, alarm goes off and I'm like, Scott, how are you feeling, buddy? He goes I've been shivering for the last four hours and I've got long John's on sweatpants and I stole Ashton's blanket. 00:30:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, Scott, won't. 00:30:56 Speaker 3: You just I was like, you're gonna have to cause I thought I really was worried I was gonna hold you back to where like you had to go after a bowl and I'm just freaking dead on the side of a mountain. 00:31:03 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:31:04 Speaker 3: And so when it was the coldest day, the cold it had been temperature. 00:31:08 Speaker 1: Baby thirties, mid low thirties. There was a couple of frost round mornings, and then it would warm up to like probably forty five fifty. Yeah, first couple days was warmer than that, but the wind was killer. 00:31:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so and I knew that it being colder, I was screwed. And the crazy thing is too, is like I would say, typically I'm the warmest in the group, like. 00:31:30 Speaker 1: Me and you were still Yeah, do you cat maybe a little bit warmer in the cold, Yeah, do not get cold when I'm moving, I'm probably just as hot. 00:31:38 Speaker 3: As soon as I was like cold the night before, I knew there was gonna be no help in myself the next day. 00:31:43 Speaker 1: So me Curtis split off from Billings and Watkins. I think everybody had kind of left at that point. Jimmy, Jimmy wasn't honting. He'd killed his Mealdier the night before without any of us. We'd seen a bunch of good Mualier and he ended up staying down low and busting one Ashton Harrison Bill had left the night before tagged out, so it's it's just basically the four of us really going out. So Me and Curtis decide that we're going to go to the spot that we saw the bulls in the afternoon, the to Hell Hole up at the top of the mountain. And so you guys stayed kind of mid middle of the hill, yeah, and low, and then end up coming up high. So Me and Curtis decide to kind of still hunt this road right as the sun's coming up and then try to be at hell Hole at the wallow mid you know, like probably thirty forty five minutes after daylight, thinking maybe we catch something getting some water before it goes to bed or back into the timbers. 00:32:35 Speaker 2: So we slow hunt. 00:32:37 Speaker 1: We heard something bust. I think it was a mule deer right before dark as we were we probably started like a touch too soon. But anyway, we get up and now we're on the opposite side where we saw the elk come out, so we're complete opposite side of this little finger it we're on the other ridge and so I get down and I'm kind of sitting there glass and I want to be able to see into the kind of meadow thing park that where they've been coming out, and so I kind of come down the. 00:33:05 Speaker 2: Ridge a little bit farther well, Curtis. 00:33:07 Speaker 1: Stays up top kind of glasses, and all of a sudden we look on the far edge, skylit, perfect cow elk, so we're like, hell yeah, Spike comes up. 00:33:18 Speaker 2: We watched for hour hour and a half. 00:33:20 Speaker 1: As these elk just kind of sunned, and a bird would hop on their back and start like, I guess it's picking. 00:33:25 Speaker 2: Bugs or whatever, and they would just let it. 00:33:27 Speaker 1: And so Curtis decides to go up top make sure nothing's coming on the back side of our hill, and nothing. 00:33:34 Speaker 2: All of a sudden he comes running down. He's like, boll, I think there's a bully with the group. 00:33:37 Speaker 1: So we're thinking there's a bull with that's heard, and sure enough it's just this. It was a goofy looking spike thick had like this weird curve to it, like from far away you might be able to think it's a bull. So we sit there and there's a county road at the very bottom of this. I mean it's shoot four or five hundred feet of elevation change or no, sorry, about fifteen hundred feet of elevation, changing. 00:34:00 Speaker 3: All the bottom bottom, and so. 00:34:02 Speaker 1: I heard a truck or something rolling through there, and all these elk pile over back up before that, we're sitting there and all of a sudden, we hear some raking in the trees and the timber that I don't know if it was a spike, I don't know if it's a bull. We never got eyes on it. We don't know if it's a meal deer because it busted off, but we never saw him. And so we're thinking when these cows busted through, it might push this bull out, or he might they might pick him up, and maybe they're coming up over the wall. So we sit there for ten fifteen minutes, nothing comes through. We don't get eyes on those cows or spike or whatever, so we end up backing back up the top of the hill. Curtis is like, let's let's get in the sun and warm up a little bit and see if we can glass the backside, because it's kind of it's hard to explain, but there's another kind of big bowl behind us. And so we get up to the top. Sitting in the sun, you could smell elk real heavy in the way the wind was coming. We kind of peered down into this timber we're kind of looking. It was pretty heavily, pretty heavy elk smell. So the plan was wait for a little bit and then maybe just walk the timber and bumped something up. We didn't have a ton of time. We weren't, you know, gonna be there all day. 00:35:04 Speaker 3: You're really against the clock now. 00:35:08 Speaker 1: And sure enough we turn around and as we turn around, cow elk on the backside of that that finger ridge cow elk cow elk. And I taken my biose up and I'm like, that's a legal bull and so I'm like, Curtis, give me range whatever. 00:35:22 Speaker 2: So I grabbed my. 00:35:24 Speaker 1: Tripod and in the moment, I'm like kind of start fumbling with the clips and I. 00:35:28 Speaker 2: Was like, calm down. 00:35:30 Speaker 1: So I calmed down, slow, get them, get everything out, put the gun in there. 00:35:34 Speaker 2: He gives me the range. 00:35:36 Speaker 1: I look at the MOA or he may read out the MOA, and then we subtracted the percentages we thought, and I get on him and I'm like, is he the one in the back? He goes what And I just shot And as soon as I shot it, he just stopped and did that kind of like thing in Idaho where he was like done, he was done. 00:35:53 Speaker 2: And Curtis is like another one. So I didn't want to take the chance. 00:35:57 Speaker 1: And so he's like four hundred and sixty yards I think is what he was, and this was I know what you can see on the camera. 00:36:02 Speaker 3: Changed your MOA. 00:36:03 Speaker 2: At this point I dropped my MOA. 00:36:05 Speaker 1: I think it was like one point two or one point four, because what I'd read is basically every five hundred for every five hundred yards he drop at one point four, depending on what. 00:36:13 Speaker 2: The calculation we had. So I dropped it at that and it worked. 00:36:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, both shots were within four to six inches, and he just piled up right there. 00:36:20 Speaker 3: But then then you're trying to race clean up duty. 00:36:24 Speaker 1: So then so then I knew we weren't gonna be able to like pack out like quarters, right, So I take off run and I ran probably three miles. I think it was relatively flat. It's kind of flowy and up and hill, downhill whatever to get the side by side. To get the side by side while Curtis is quartering, I get up there to I think he'd only had the ham off when I got back and he'd done all the hide and stuff, and so I helped him with other shoulders shoulder, I did the shoulders, heated the hams, and then we took the took a euro so we got it done and then we picked watkins and met up. 00:36:57 Speaker 3: It's crazy too because you when you like back track all this stuff and then we got to the airport like right on time. 00:37:03 Speaker 1: Didn't get to enjoy any of it. That was the hard part is like I still haven't really enjoyed it. And then I went straight to Scotland, so I didn't even like well because normally. 00:37:10 Speaker 3: I mean for anyone that's killed a bowl like that, I mean normally, assuming you're not like really racing the time. 00:37:17 Speaker 2: The heat, yeah, it was thirty degrees, it can like if you're. 00:37:20 Speaker 3: Not racing it, like we've we have experience where it's really hot and you're trying to like get stuff and you might have a really long pack out or something. But if you don't have to hurry, it's usually not something you rush through. It's like that's the whole experience you've waited for. Especially this year, we had two unsuccessful hunts and archery and then this one was like the grand finale of going out West this year. So yeah, it sucks for me to have like missed that, but also for you guys. 00:37:46 Speaker 2: We had a text read and I'm just like, let's go. 00:37:49 Speaker 3: And my first reaction was so excited for you. My second reaction was so massed off didn't go out. 00:37:54 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:37:54 Speaker 6: The best part of that is like I didn't have any service the whole time. 00:37:57 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:37:58 Speaker 6: So we're going Chris Reason Metal Park where. 00:38:01 Speaker 2: You guys there hiked up pretty good little chunk. Huh. We're sitting there getting bad to do that. 00:38:06 Speaker 6: You do the bear story. Yeah, we're Curtis seeing the bear. 00:38:11 Speaker 2: Oh bear shit. Yeah, so I. 00:38:12 Speaker 6: Didn't know about that. 00:38:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, Curtis has seen a bunch of bear signed black bear sign and had a bear tag. 00:38:17 Speaker 6: You dropped us off. 00:38:18 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, how you didn't want to go in the dark, Well I did. I didn't know, So hold on, way, tell it from Billings perspective. 00:38:24 Speaker 1: Billings goes, Yeah, Wakers didn't want to go, you know, because they went to a new spot spot that head and been it. 00:38:29 Speaker 2: It's good, should be a good spot. 00:38:30 Speaker 1: There's heavy timber, there's water blow, there's a good meadow like all things that you would need or to have a good spot, and so it's pitch black and we drop them off to go to our spot, and so Billings like, all right, let's head down there. And this was in the spot where all the bear sign. 00:38:45 Speaker 2: Was, and walk is like, I'm going down there. He's like, there's a bear down there. I'll have a. 00:38:49 Speaker 1: Gun and buildings like cool, I'm going down there. So then you're gonna be standing here in the bear spot without a gun, in the dark. 00:38:55 Speaker 2: And he's like, all right, I'll go with you. 00:38:57 Speaker 6: Kind of what happened because when you dropped us off for there, of course it's cold, it's like seventeen degrees and we're sitting there. I was just like, I was like, all right, you're ready to go in. I go yeah, to turn your headlamp. Your head lamp on. He's like, why do we need that? I was like, you just said it was bears in here. He goes, yeah, we'll be fine. I'm just like, nope, I'm not going through that. 00:39:16 Speaker 3: Nope. 00:39:17 Speaker 6: Through uh through that oak. 00:39:19 Speaker 2: Brush is what It's like. 00:39:20 Speaker 6: I'm not going through that. Then I can't I can't even see in front of my hand. He goes, ah, he's like, we'll just wait a little bit. I was just like, we're gonna wait longer than a little bit. I was just like, I'm not going through that. And finally I was just so cold. I was just like, I guess it'll a seat. It was just going through. Of course, I've never seen bear crap at all, so as I'm walking through and we're kind of like brushing the oaks away, I had to see this big old PILEO. Basically, I was just like I was like, oh, that's bear. I go, oh, that's cool. There's another pile. There's another pile, there's another pile. I was just like, ah, just kind of slowly work their way through this space. And of course we went down to that spot I think two days before. He didn't seemed like it took that long to get through that. Dude, that morning, he seemed like it took an hour to get through that because I was freaking out, and be honest, I was just freaking out the whole time. But like I said, the whole time, I didn't have service. So we're sitting there, we're not seeing anything, and I was like, all right, well, let's just work away up top. He's kind of Mopey just kind of just he ain't gotten anything, and everybody's getting something. He ain't gotten that. 00:40:21 Speaker 2: This is the last morning, this is the last thing. I hadn't sent you guys a text yet. 00:40:25 Speaker 6: No, and if you did, I didn't get it. But we're walking through and we go up that basically that ridge that they all was calming up. We're sitting there and everything. The phone goes off and I looked at it and Chris Billing's a little bit behind me. He just kind of dragging his feet basically, and it's just the texts from you. It says, let's go. I was just like, oh, I think Richard got something. And I was like, what do you get? I was like, I don't know. Then you set the photo. So I'm sitting there and I'm like, do that Thing's huge? Just talking about everything, and Billings is getting like kind of furious about it. He's like, let me see, takes my phone. He's like, I ain't got nothing yet. He's sitting there looking at it and he goes, I was just like, do you want to go get one? He goes, yeah, I want to get one. We go. We don't have enough time. I was just like because we've got two hours, let's get up this mountain side and like we'll be fine. He goes, okay, I guess. So we're kind of just slowly trotting it up and then the more texts come through, and I was like, Billing's we have an hour. 00:41:26 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're just pumping photos now. 00:41:28 Speaker 6: Yeah, and just getting there and he's still not getting anything, which is just making yeah super mad. It was like Billy's, wee get an hour, let's get up here and go. He's like all right, So we rush up to was like the Red Clay or whatever. And then you take that left so we could oversee down in the meadows and uh, We're sitting there and not seeing anything. And then you text us again and said, hey, be there in ten. We're sitting I was like, hey, Richard, say he's gonna be here in ten, and he's like all right. All of a sudden, he just like jumps up real quick. He's like cows, cows, cows cows. I was just like, Richard said, hey, be ready, and in he goes tell him to wait, give me five minutes, give me five minutes. He's sitting there and see anything. And then you just see him just it's kind of late, loose and realized like he wasn't anything. 00:42:10 Speaker 2: That's a bad feeling he was. 00:42:12 Speaker 6: He was upset. You can tell he was about it. 00:42:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, we would have had to change flights for sure if he killed something or like eleven or twelve game over. 00:42:19 Speaker 1: Like he would have made it, but we'd taking it. Yeah, would have dealt with the contentt. 00:42:23 Speaker 3: Hey he got he got his time to shine last year. 00:42:26 Speaker 2: Yeah. He's had several bulls off that place. That's the first bull I've killed off that place. 00:42:30 Speaker 3: And we've handed it since twenty two. Yeah, twenty two and the you kill the cow in twenty two. 00:42:34 Speaker 2: To twenty three. Yeah. 00:42:35 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:42:36 Speaker 6: He talked about it every single day besides that last day about what how you always always get something in here? This is a good spot. I always get something, never gotten off. 00:42:45 Speaker 2: But it was a far shot. 00:42:46 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was. 00:42:47 Speaker 6: Interesting, not too though. 00:42:49 Speaker 2: It was late. 00:42:49 Speaker 6: That was late. I just remember when he when he took it, I was like, so do you think we got it? I was just like, I don't know. So I'm looking through the glass you can barely see. I was just like he's still there. He's like, we wait tim more minutes He's like, we'll look back through. We looked through the glass again. I was like, hey, he's still there. He's like, oh, I guess I got him. Let's go get him. I was like, Jesu Louise, I think we got back that nine, like nine thirty two back. 00:43:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was late. Yeah. 00:43:13 Speaker 1: That's the hard part too, is you're getting back at nine, nine thirty and up at five, and then you'd get Bill who turn his damn light on it for four thirty and four o'clock in the morning and just start. 00:43:24 Speaker 2: You know. 00:43:25 Speaker 3: The other thing that's tough too with Like that sucked for me being sick is like every hunt camp is fun, but that was like a really fun camp was awesome, and I had I might be. I would go to bed at like seven thirty or eight, like as soon as I possibly could. Ye, I would go to bed because I'm trying. Every night I think I'm gonna go to bed, I'm gonna get better. Every night I go to bed, I get worse. And I meant anything good about the whole thing, Like because in Wyoming, I really I was sick one day and I went I got a lot of sleep that day, and I felt pretty much better the next day, So I kind of thought that was going to happen again. 00:44:01 Speaker 2: It did not happen, and welcome to being a father. 00:44:04 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well I don't even know if he got me sick. It turns out probably, but anyway, but so then I missed out on like all that stuff too, So I don't know, I just have to I need to have a good year next year because I was sick two or three hunts out West. 00:44:19 Speaker 2: You go on a couple of hunts, now right, get your well. 00:44:22 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm saying like yeah, it's like, yeah, the Western hunting, like, being sick for two of them was not fun. 00:44:27 Speaker 2: Dude. 00:44:27 Speaker 1: I had like a little bit of a depression slash withdraws. I mean we didn't get to really like have fun or didn't get to enjoy the the kill, and we like whisked away and then I had to go straight to Scotland and man, it was like for a couple of days it really had a I had a tough time coming back to. 00:44:49 Speaker 2: Reality and being in Man. 00:44:52 Speaker 1: There's just something about being out there and in that mode and that's all you're kind of thinking about, and then having to go back to real life was man. 00:44:59 Speaker 2: It was. It was tough. 00:45:01 Speaker 6: Driving from it till like fifteen hours left on the trip back. That's when he kicked him. Like driving the Sprinter back, that was when I kind of lost everything. 00:45:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, way to get on a flight and then we got home at midnight, take the kids to school the next morning, and then get on another flight for eight hours. 00:45:20 Speaker 2: So it was like right back to reality. 00:45:22 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, now it's uh, now it's time to go a big buck. 00:45:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna find some white tail. 00:45:29 Speaker 3: You gotta go up to annoys. 00:45:30 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I'll hit a different stride. I was had a bad white tail year last year. 00:45:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you had a bad out here this year. 00:45:36 Speaker 2: So maybe maybe. 00:45:38 Speaker 5: The weather starting like Sunday or Monday is incredible Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. I think he's going to Illinois, that's. 00:45:45 Speaker 2: What he said, maybe tomorrow to check everything. Yeah, and then I might either bring the boys up on Friday, try to hunt Saturday all day, Sunday some and then. 00:45:55 Speaker 3: Yeah this weekend. 00:45:57 Speaker 2: Yeah, Illinois. Maybe it's gonna be good. 00:46:01 Speaker 4: I'll I go next week. 00:46:02 Speaker 2: You're going to Illinois next week? Yeah? With Nate with Nate and yeah yeah, yeah, like five days got just perked up. 00:46:10 Speaker 3: I'll get divorced if I go during my anniversary weekend. Yeah yeah, starting like the nineteenth, when Angela and I and Sam go to our neighborhood hunting, I'm like, I'm like a deer hunting bender because I'm gonna be there, and then right when we get home, I'm going up to Michigan to like visit family. 00:46:30 Speaker 2: But also who are you coming back? 00:46:32 Speaker 3: Well, then I'm coming back whenever you tell me pretty much, and we're going to text day Yeah okay, but yeah, we'll figure that out. But I have like two and a half weeks of I'm hunting. I'm hunting, and then I'm filming that Texas. 00:46:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, you just text me next we want to use bow or rifle? 00:46:48 Speaker 3: Oh for sure? Yeah. Yeah. So there's it's it's full on whitetail here. Now the rut is happening actively. 00:46:56 Speaker 1: I had a pretty decent one on the camera the other day. I didn't send that to anybody because I didn't even wadn't know about. 00:47:03 Speaker 2: It, did I? The one on Billings No, this is this is at the house. He's not terrible. 00:47:12 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's not as big as the one of buildings. 00:47:14 Speaker 1: No, heck no, not one of bailings is heavy. But there's two eights over on that one spot which Tennessee Wawkins. You feel like you're prepared physically. We prepared you physically enough. 00:47:27 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you can't ever train for that. 00:47:29 Speaker 2: No, whoever says that. Frank said that, right, yeah, then originally Fursday. 00:47:35 Speaker 5: Right, Oh yeah, that's a that's a good quote from you that you trained too hard for it because because he was sick first. 00:47:41 Speaker 2: Day when I was sick. Yeah, what's funny as that same walla we sat over. 00:47:46 Speaker 1: We probably sat three time, yeah, four hours, three four hours on Saturday this trip, Yeah, two or three hours on Sunday. 00:47:58 Speaker 3: Well, Friday, Friday, you're saying Friday. 00:47:59 Speaker 1: Wait, we probably we said it a lot and nothing and then we killed over it. 00:48:04 Speaker 2: And I don't mm hmm. We didn't really ride to it this time. We walked to it. 00:48:14 Speaker 6: This is easy, but I got to do everything. You got to hear the bugles. I got to hear that really good bugle. 00:48:21 Speaker 2: I didn't really hear a good bugle. I mean I heard a couple like faint bugles. 00:48:25 Speaker 6: Do that? 00:48:26 Speaker 1: I think seconds be my favorite? Now, man, I'm gonna get a meal deer tag too next year. But yeah, you got to do get to hear bugle. You didn't get to gut or clean one per se, but you didn't get to d bone one with Curtis. 00:48:38 Speaker 6: Well, you got to carry that. Help carry out the bills, yeah, help carry then a shed de ship. 00:48:45 Speaker 2: I found a freaking toad of a deadhead toad. Crazy. 00:48:52 Speaker 1: I thought it was just a little forky when we saw it dead I was like, I'm gonna go check this thing out, giant. 00:48:57 Speaker 3: So what well you you change training for hunting next year? 00:49:02 Speaker 7: Then now that you've done it, slide drags, heavier, light, light lot just for like a long period like that workout that we did but two days before we left for. 00:49:13 Speaker 6: Staremaster and sled push that was perfect. 00:49:17 Speaker 4: Oh that workout Yeah, it was five minutes slid push five minutes. 00:49:21 Speaker 5: I think they did it to like two weeks two weeks ago on Monday. 00:49:25 Speaker 2: Work out that like slow steady climb. 00:49:29 Speaker 1: A pull or a push push kind of sucks because you're just stuck in this awkward position. But a drag man it does does something. 00:49:37 Speaker 6: Take legs, core and cardio. Yeah, that's like the three most important things. 00:49:42 Speaker 1: I you know, from wearing a pack all week. I came home on was that Wednesday before we got on the flight, and I worked out a bunch to try to like just I knew it wasn't gonna work out a ton and yeah, and I hadn't worked out a ton and I started rolling on that death Star. But it has the like one that has all the hobby one knobs on it. 00:50:04 Speaker 2: It bruised me. 00:50:05 Speaker 4: I saw your back with bruised from it. 00:50:06 Speaker 1: Back literally had I get bruised from it, pretty heavy bruised, like I've never had that. 00:50:10 Speaker 2: But I but you don't feel. 00:50:11 Speaker 5: It in the moment, No, you don't feel it just feels kind of good and kind of painful. And then like like Madison will be like, hey, your back is bruis. 00:50:18 Speaker 2: Hillary's like, what happened to your back? Yeah? It was? It full of bruises. It was crazy. 00:50:23 Speaker 6: But when I told Bird, He's like, why Cardio, I mean not Cardio, why cor I was like the. 00:50:28 Speaker 2: Pack pack, Yeah, you're holding it and moved out. 00:50:30 Speaker 6: You're just I mean, find what twenty five thirty. 00:50:33 Speaker 1: Pounds spawning scope Billings tried. 00:50:37 Speaker 6: I hated taking that thing off and putting it back on, So I usually just kept it on for unless I knew we was sitting. Oh, it just kept it on and dude like twisting and turning. 00:50:46 Speaker 2: It's like, dude, but my back never got ted shivering. 00:50:49 Speaker 3: And if you do have to pack something out core is a big deal with that. 00:50:53 Speaker 1: You yep, all right? Anything else that's it? Would you go again? 00:51:01 Speaker 2: Oh? 00:51:01 Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't wait. Fucked a lot of sinker. Wait, no way, Yeah, I calls. 00:51:11 Speaker 2: All right. Piece