00:00:01 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wire to Hunts rut Fresh Radio, bringing you the latest reports from the White Tailed Woods and now your host, Spencer new Hearth. This is Wire de Hunts rut Fresh Radio powered by First Light. I am your host, Spencer new Hearth, and this week we talked to a hunter who killed the biggest buck in show history. Welcome to Wire to Hunt's rut Fresh Radio. This is episode four hundred sixty nine and we're officially in late October. Now. Normally joining me for the intro is Mark Kenyon, but as you've probably seen on Instagram or Facebook, he is on assignment with our buddy Clay Newcomb making some really cool content that I think you're probably gonna see more of in two. So joining me is our other buddy, Tony Peterson. And Tony, last time I talked to you, you were taking twin nine year old daughter one out for a deer hunt. Who you got a dough um. But this last weekend you took out twin nine year old daughter two and you did even better. Tell us about that hunt, oh man. So they actually both the girls got doze in September. But then there you know, you know how they are, So they're like, we gotta get bucks now. And so last weekend we were on a buck mission over there in northern Wisconsin. And the very first night we got over there, five minutes into our hunt, my daughter taps me and she goes, Dad, there's a buck right there. And I was I thought she was joking because my kids messed with me all the time, so I didn't even look. And she goes, debt right there, and I looked out and there's a little forky standing there, and I just I felt like we had this is it totally not like me, but I felt like we had a really good chance of of encountering a bigger deer. So I told her. I was like, honey, you can do what you want, but I think if we let this one go, we'll have a bigger one come in. And she sat there for like twelve seconds and she goes, Dad, I really think my first book should be a little guy. I said, all right, light him up, honey, and she made a good shot and got him, and it was it was really cool, awesome. That is good parenting, something I don't know anything about. So I'm glad to hear the hunt went down like that. And I imagine Tony, this opens up sort of the rest of the fall for you to focus on you and your haunts. Is I right? Well, So I have one nine year old who haven't shot a buck this year now, so I know I'm I'm turning right around and going back to get her one. You know this coming next couple of days and see if we can see if we can get another forky in range. And then after that it'll be my time to get into a tree. Sweet glad to hear of all the successes so far with your daughters. Um, Now, what I really want to talk to you about, Tony, is in season scouting and what hunters should be looking or this time of year, because I know you would do a lot of traveling to hunt, and you're often exploring new properties, especially this time of year, because as I've talked to you before, Tony, I think mid October laid October tends to be one of your favorite times of year to to make an honest state trip and and go kill a white tail sort of a week or weeks before a lot of hunters are getting in the woods for their big extended period and taking vacation time off and stuff like that. So what are some things that a white tail hunter should be looking for right now if they're entering a new state or a new piece of property for the first time, and they've got like one day to do some in season scouting to sort of set the table for the rest of their trip. Yeah. Man, I mean I think you could even say, not only those groups of hunters, but anyone who's even if you're on private ground. Um, you know, my strategy right now is to get into the into the cover and look for big concentrations of buck sign you know. And a lot of people kind of make a mistake of they see signs showing up everywhere on field edges right now, and they go, this, this is it, This is all I need. But you know, if you hunt pressure deer, it's you want to get into the cover typically, and so I just look for some scrapes. You know. I'm kind of moving when it gets toward the end October, I'm kind of moving away from scrape hunting and really focusing on rubs. And man, there's nothing I like better than walking in and get into like the real cover, kind of reverse engineering that travel from the food sources and just looking for rubs and if I find the right concentration of fresh rubs, then it's time to start hunting. So paint me then a detailed picture of say it's October and you're in just some general Midwest state and you're going into the woods to look for sign. What what is like the exact ideal scenario that you're hoping to find. Well, you know, it probably starts with the the easy sign, you know, the field edge, the meadows, whatever, where most people would start. But you know that's probably nocturnal sign making, right, that's probably nocturnal travel. But it tells you, Okay, we're not super far away, and there's probably gonna be daylight movement in the cover somewhere close to here. So you know, I might start with the easy stuff, but I'm always backtracking and getting into the cover and just looking for some concentration to sign within, you know, maybe a hundred two five six hundred yards away from those destinations of food sources, but it just has to be something with some terrain that offers them an advantage as far as wind. So it's kind of it's kind of like a staging area strategy, but gets even tighter when you're like, okay, there's a whole bunch of rubs here two hundred yards off this field in a place that's real thick and not all that easy to approach. I I just like that tight cover and high concentration of sign. Now let's fast forward like two weeks, say it's November third, but it's same scenario. You're in a place that you've never before, and you have like one afternoon to get into the woods and and sort of find what you need to find. What are some things you're going to be looking for when the rut is in full swing and you're on a brand new property, terrain man, what what what's funneling them? And you know, we think about rut hunting like you've got to find that sign and you know, get on those rubs like I'm talking about right now. And for me, the most valuable sign that I see for rut hunting like pure, like right in the heart of it. Rut hunting is a pounded trail that goes through some kind of pinch point or funnel. I don't care if there's rubs or scrapes or whatever anymore. What I want to see at a place where the deer have to travel, and it gives me some kind of wind advantage, some kind of access advantage, so you know, it's it might be a river bottom where a bluff bucks up to the river bank, or it might be just your traditional bluff country kind of battles or something like that. That's just like they the deer look like they have to go through here. That's what I want. I love it. Hearing that gets me stoked for November. But we still have like another ten days before we're there, so we ought to focus on late October, and that's where you're gonna hear about in our interviews this week. And who we talked to is Aaron Slide from the ninety ten Project in Iowa, who buried the lead on this a little bit, but he killed the biggest buck in rut Fresh history, so you're gonna want to hear that interview. The other folks we hear from our Josh Smith from Wildcare Deer Attracting in Tennessee, Cole Stevens in Michigan, and then Kyler Mopert from Louisiana Bow Hunter in Louisiana. And for the reading assignments this week, which you can find in the description of this podcast episode, you're gonna be linked right there, So all you gotta do is scroll down. You can click on these articles and you're gonna be right on Wired Hunt's website getting the info that you need. And that is how to rattle a How to Rattle in a book on public Land by John Eberhart. John goes over his experience with calling in bucks on heavily pressured public land and all the considerations that go into a calling sequence. And then the land feature that too many deer hunters ignore by Beau Martinic. Bow covers one specific land feature that he always looks for when doing boots on the ground scouting and why it's so relevant to white deal hunters. And this is going to be especially useful if you hunt public land or big woods. You know. We have how to sight in a bow in twenty five minutes by Tony Hanson. Hopefully you've been shooting your bow all summer, but if that's not the case, you need to get dialed in quick before they are. This is how to do it. And last we have how Adam Hayes find the biggest buck on a property by Emily Canner. Emily interviews one of the best big buck killers we know in Adam Hayes, who shares his strategy for locating the most mature white tails in a neighborhood. I thank you for joining me, Tony, and uh, the next time we probably talk to you, it is going to be November, so I look forward to that. Good luck with the rest of your season. Man. Thanks Boddy, good luck to you too, all right, joining us online. Next is Aaron Slide from the ninety ten project in Iowa. Now, Aaron in Iowa, what would you say the bucket activity has been lately on a scale of one to ten, you know, uh, based on weather. When you have good weather like we've had, getting those cold temperatures, UM, I say an eight. And the reason I say eight is uh, I love hunting October. When you get these cold mornings, these cold evenings, even if it's the first hour of light or the last hour of light. Um, as long as you have cold temps, high pressures, there's no reason not to push it into some of your better spots right now. Now. If you haven't realized it yet, you probably will in a second. But you've likely seen Aeron's pictures floating around these last couple of days of a buck that he named Angry that he just killed in Iowa, which is the biggest book that we've ever talked about in brought fresh history and probably one of the biggest bucks killed in one. Thus are so Aaron, tell us about this dear named Angry, tell us about the haunts, tell us about uh that spot, why you were there and why that deer was ultimately there? Yeah? Yeah, so you know, uh, you you had alluded to the projects, and what I talked to people about is you know, ent of of hunting is the setup, right, whether that be growing, maintaining, holding, tracking deer the ten percent the ten percent of the kill of course. Um. So the story of Angry is, uh if long he a couple of years ago was a deer that you know, you'd really kind of a scroll through your pictures in Iowan just say it's a nice buck. I've seen a nice buck. We really started paying attention to him last year in um when he had about a hundred sixty hundred rack on him and he was just always piste off. Every time you've seen him, he was just angry, right, just had a chip on the shoulder, always posture and dear, whether it was January nine, the day before season well passed run. He was just always aggressive. UM. So the way that we wanted to set up with Angry is uh is is go towards his home range right and basically tracking him. Doing that, tracking him where he was and where he wasn't, we quickly figured out where he wasn't and that was the problem is running trail cameras. He just disappeared October one. Last picture of him was probably ten thirty at night on October one and he just disappeared. So again alluding back to having an eight right now for as far as having good hunting, So we picked the cold morning, low or high pressures, and we picked where he wasn't because we didn't know where he was. So we thought, you know what, let's go into a spot. We don't think he is, but he could be. UM And a lot of the food is getting cut down here, a lot of your corns coming out, your beans are coming out, and you know, with cut corn, that's kind of a dinner bell for him. So what we did is we set up in a bedding area on the way back from a cornfield. UM. Again, cold morning and a lot of people are thinking you're gonna hunt mornings in October. If you got a cold morning and he got high pressures, don't be afraid to go into some of your better spots. So we slipped back in there, and you know, we had good buck activity the whole morning, just a boodle of dose just all over the place. And uh and I mean we sat in there late. You know, I was just watching dos, just hoping that they're not catching our winds, and thinking, man, I should be three hundred yards further west towards that cornfield, you know, a little bit further into the bedding, and uh and I kind of look up towards the west and see you buck stand on the hillside, and I thought, man, that's a good deer. And uh I look below him, and you could you could see his acting distile and uh I look below him and shure, enough, there's angry just doing what he does, his ears back piste off, posturing and ready to fight. So just picking those good spots. Don't be afraid to go into him, even even though it is October. As you followed this deer, did you pick up on anything with his pattern that would change based on the weather or based on food status in the area. Yeah, I did you know where we thought we'd kill him. He just wasn't showing up. And you know, you go to the standing you get a little bit defeated. When you have a deer that's been so consistent and you don't shoot him, you don't see him, you start to run through worst case scenarios. Right, was he poached? Did he get the h D which we have commonly here in Iowa. Um, you know, we we focused on cut corn. I said, you know what, if he's not on these these big, beautiful green plots we have, he's not on these standing beams, he's not on uh, these these clover plots, brassica cereal grains, he's gotta be eating cut corn. That's the only thing that changed, right, So we thought, what changed from October one to now? The corn came out, all the corn started getting cut and harvested, and I thought, you know what, he's got to be on cut corn. It's the only place I don't have a trail camera. And sure as heck, that's where he ended up being. So if you got cut corn right now, I'm not saying that hunt hunt on a cut corn field, but put yourself between that cut corn and uh and betting, and that's what we did. What are you seeing for signmaking right now in Iowa? Man, it's on fire. Uh. What I really focus on is scrapes and and especially rub posts. You know, I've been getting into rub posts with some living branches and grapevines, specifically grape minds the past couple of years, and I have him on pretty much all of my my food plots and as far as signmaking goes, he's dear aggressive when I see him hit the field, especially the upper age class. Dear, you know you're you're three year old above. Uh, they're really aggressive. You know, they're snort weezing already. There they're they're rubbing, and they're scrape and I mean when they're scraping, then they're and so they're they're definitely this is the time to kill an old deer. If you have, you know, to know how of of where your dear is. You might not have him on the exact trail camera, if you have the general idea of the general neighborhood they're in, Um, don't be afraid to get in there. Like you said, with signmaking, UM, I knew danglong when I saw angry at a hundred yards. I said, you know what, this dear's he's as good as dead. Because with those upper age class dear, with how aggressive I've seen them and their scrapes and rubbing. Uh, I just did a snort wheeze at him. He whipped around. I grunted a little bit. Once he turned, I knew he was uh. I knew he was interested. So I kind of got behind the tree and and hit some horns. And they always do that little little tail kick, you know. When he did that tail kick and turned his body, I said to uh the cameraman, I'm like, he's as good as dead. It took him about forty five minutes. Because it's a seven year old deer, right, he's gonna take his time. They're not stupid, um. But he took his time. He bridged a gap of a hundred yards. Took him about forty five to fifty minutes for him to bridge that gap. But don't be afraid to get in there and do some calling. I'm not saying to do an all out brawl rattle uh blindly, but if you have an opportunity where that deer can't see you, it might be an obstruction of you as a hill or maybe some brush. Don't be afraid to hit some horns in October. It's the best time to kill him. Going forward. Then in a sex week or so, what do you think that buck activity is going to be on a scale of one to ten in Iowa? So the that's a good question. The temperatures are dipping again right now. It's warm, but you still have your cold mornings, right so looking a forward at the forecast starting tomorrow through the weekend, Man, get out there. Don't wait for uh, don't wait for November, because you're gonna be kicking yourself thinking I missed so many good morning, so many good nights in Iowa, Illinois, Michigan, Indiana. Because as you're waiting for that rout right, the pre rut for me as far as the pressured and unpressured deer, um, it's hot right now, so I would label that as an eight to a nine. Um probably a little bit better than Saturday when I killed because we're getting thost high pressures and cold temps. And I tell you what, Spencer, the the amount of movement in the morning is just on fire. And I remember waking up Saturday morning, I'm like, hey, nah, but I know I got a giant deer to to to hunt, but I don't want to get out of bed. Now is the time to get out of bed. Now is the time to hunt these good early October mornings while it's cold. And if you want to see the photos of Aaron's buck angry, go to Instagram and check out at the project. Uh there's some great photos there of all two hundred and thirty seven inches of antler. Congrats again, Aaron, and thank you for joining me. Thanks brother, good luck to everybody all right and joining us on the line. Next is Josh Smith from Wildcare Deer Attracted in Tennis See Josh and Tennessee. What would you say the buck activity is ben lately on a scale of one to ten, Well, I'd say on a scale in the ten over the last ten days or so, I'd give it a three, and I might even go a little lower than that. Um, if it weren't for our younger bucks still kind of sticking in bachelor groups and we're still seeing in a lot of daylight activities from them. The older bucks are kind of dropping off the daylight pictures on the cell cams. Um, and it's fairly slow because we've got such a high yield of mass drop this year. Uh, everywhere around home, acorns are just falling like rain. So I think that's kind of contributing to a little bit of inactivity. That the deer aren't having to travel quite as much for food. They can kind of hang tight to those sources that are literally just falling out of the sky on them right now, So not much motivation to get up and be mobile. Um. And also I think, uh, you know, we we had a good cold front come through this past weekend, but unfortunately it was just really windy at the same time the first couple of days of that, so I think that it was kind of neutralized a little bit there, but the wind kind of died down on Sunday and it stayed a little cool, but and then started to warm right back up on Sunday evening and on the Monday. So we had about a twenty degree drop last weekend and we're looking at back up about fifteen degrees so we're riding right around seventy five for the next week or so. So historically in mid to late October and Tennessee, would you consider a three to be normal or blow average for dear movement. I'd say it's pretty normal, but it really depends on food. Uh. We're not really agg heavy where I lived, so you know, the mass crop is crucial and in years where we have have a light crop, activity is a little higher. But historically, on average, i'd say it's in that three day five range. You mentioned that the ass crops has been large this year. What other food sources are relevant right now for deer hunters in Tennessee. Oh, there's tons of brows man. Uh. Our woods are still thick and green, so you know there's plenty of stuff in the undergrowth for deer to be cruising around munching on. Um. And you know, I think we have got back to mass crops. We've got twenty species of oaks and Tennessee, so just tons of opportunity there. Uh, And that's what I would focus on more than anything. Obviously, you know you're looking at your travel corridors, but those will probably heat up a little more as we close in on the rut in about three or four weeks UM. But yeah, as far as food sources, definitely mass crop and just you know your your brows that they like to munch on food plots if you're lucky enough to have them in And what are you seeing for signmaking right now? We're seeing that they're starting to make scrapes. It's still kind of premature, but they're happening. They're just not as dense as usual. Um, But I am, you know, using our sense right now. I'll use all really all of them, A basic dough, basic buck. We use our Rutt and Buck and Asterius dough. Just kind of keep stock on what's going on and see, if anything, you kind of get a good monitor of the rut activity and how close it's getting. You know, it's still a ways out, but you'll get bucks acting aggressive toward different sense and kind of get a good idea on how to make a play on them. Um. So that's kind of the game there. But yeah, straight activities kind of moderate yet, but I'd say it'll be heating out pretty good here in the next couple of weeks. Besides on scrapes. From a hunting perspective, how are you using sense as we get into late October? If once we get into late October, depending on the method I'll use for hunting, I like to still hunt quite a lot, So I'm not using sense quite as much when I do that, but when I tree stand hunt, I definitely like to use cover scent. Um. You know, it's thermals are a big deal here. We're in the foothills of the Smoky so playing the thermals is extremely important. But you can never be a hundred percent with that, so it's great to have something to kind of just boost a little bit of cover scent for when the wind does start to swirl in the evening or in the morning going forward. Then in this next week or so, what do you think that bucket activity is going to be on a scale of one to ten in Tennessee. Man, I'm hoping that we get up to a five or so. I expect it won't clind much higher than that, but if it gets that, that's that's good enough for me. You know, I think that's good for this time of year. So that's enough motivation for me to be on stand as much as possible. Um. But yeah, you know, in Tennessee is a big state. You gotta keep in mind we're in the east side and it's almost like a completely different country than the West side. So I don't want to speak for everybody, but if you're in the east side of the state. I think I got it pretty well nailed, all right, Josh fingers crossed that you get some cooler weather. Good luck with the rest of your season, and thanks for joining me. I appreciate a buddy. Have a good one, all right and joining us on the line. Next is Cole Stevens in Michigan. Now, Cole in Michigan, what would you say the buck activity is been lately on the scale of one to ten, I still one of ten. Say it's right around the five right now. Um, And I think I give it that because outside of opening weekend it was really warm and and and rainy really here, to be honest, where I'm at Michigan. UM, and i'd stay over the last five seven days with that cold front that pushed through it last week, it's really improved. Um. The cameras are a lot more active now with about activity, and we're getting some in daylight. So I think it's it's up to a five, and I can see that increasing here as we go on. What food sources are relevant right now for deer and deer hunters in Michigan. I think the biggest food source would still be UM acorns right now. With all that rain that we got, it kind of pushed the cross back a little bit. There are some cut corn fields where I'm starting to see more dear activity because I think overall, um, dear, dear, really sitting on the acorns right now. What are you seeing for sign making this time of year? Um? Yeah, So sign has really picked up over the last couple of days. Um. I have some cameras over some mock scrapes and and notice that they've been getting freshened up recently. Yeah. And I'm starting to see more scrapes just throughout the woods, on the on the trails and whatnot. So I think, um, that's really picking up here. I actually had some uh Sunday night, I had four bucks coming and they actually made some scrapes near mine and and starting to spar So I think the sign and tests starting to raise a little bit. Besides on mock scrapes. Where else do you like to run trail cameras in mid to late October? Um? Right now where I'm at, it's it's pretty flat, um, and I'm running them off the mox scrapes and outside of that, just in between betting and our small food plots that we hear that we have on our piece. UM, and then I like to keep a couple of just on the edges of of the food sources like the agg fields and stuff where here just crossing through this time of year in a heavily pressured state like Michigan. I feel like you get a lot of varying opinions on this topic. But do you like to do any calling to Bucks in Michigan? I'm not really UM, I'm definitely not one of those aggressive callers. UM. You know, typically, especially this time of year, I'll wait until maybe early November to do any sort of calling that might just be like grounds if I see something in the woods. But I'm not a decoy or hardcore caller. UM here in Michigan. What are you seeing from morning movement right now? Morning movement had been really slow up until the last two days. UM. I haven't been out this week yet, but the cameras were going off in and I'm getting more bucks in daylight. UM. Just starting to kind of look like they're cruising, UM, not really running too hard and not really feeding, just just crossing paths. New deer coming in so UM, it's starting to pick up. If you're doing some in season scouting in a state like Michigan, what are you looking for in late October? Uh? Personally, I'm looking for fresh signs just to see where the deer are at right this minute. Um. You know, for example, these smaller private pieces that I'm on has a lot of pressure, So if if I know what deers in there, he might not be in there for more than a couple of days if that so, I'm just looking for fresh sign fresh scrapes. Is like I I typically to hunt over um and really that's what I rely on. I don't really look for the food source too much outside of um getting into just where the doors might be grazing once the rud activity starts to pick up. But right now, just fresh sign going forward. Then the next week or so, what do you think that bucket TV is going to be on a scale of one to ten in Michigan. I think this coming weekend and in the week to come when it'll push up to seven seven and a half maybe, Um, I think it's really gonna increase. Won't be peak yet and we're a little early, but um um, we have another cold front coming in with some rain this Thursday, and then it's supposed to be in the lows of thirties and highs fifties, So I think that's really gonna get them on their feet. Alright, cool, I like your optimism. Good luck with the rest of your fall. Thanks for joining me, Yeah, thanks, Spenser, alright in joining us on the line. Next is Kyler Moppert from Louisiana. Bow Hunter in Louisiana. Now, Kyler in Louisiana, what would you say the bucket activity has been lately on a scale of one to ten, So on HeLa one of ten this past weekend, I would probably put it at about a seven um, and that has a lot to do with the fact that we've finally got a cold front second weekend to the season, the main season. Um, we finally got down into the fifties. I think some areas got into down into the mid forties, which is for us down south, pretty cold. So I know, I've got a lot of buck pictures this weekend sent in from our community members, and a lot of people are laying down bow and finally, now, Louisiana is one of those classic southern states that has a variety of white tail herds and you always have different phases of the rout happening in different parts of the state. So what is sort of a general overview and a rudimentary look at the different phases of the rout happening right now in Louisiana. So, um, right now, I know is prime rut for the southwestern part of the state, which for most people, even in the Midwest, would be considered really early. Um, we're talking about a lot of marsh deer coastal deer um that are not of the Florida variety, but of the same logic behind watch Florida has such an early rut um. But I had a Texas warning from a good friend of mine, Ronnie do God, that said he almost closed the deal on a big ten point that he's behind been hunting that was trailing a dough And here it is in October sevent eighteen, whatever the date is, and he's been hunting that deer for the last week or two. Um, want to speak during daylight. And he's getting good rut activity. But in general, most people are getting really good buck activity because we've had we've got these uh cooler camps. Now, the reason why the rut is so sporadic across the state. We don't have just one rut period where it's kind of like a two week window and then it's over for everywhere, kind of like the Midwest or other states. We have UM a bit of a mixed bag of different um different types of buck activity and rut activity. A lot of times the river parishes as well what we call parishes what other people call counties. People places that used to historically flood for hundreds and hundreds of years. Those year that are gonna be close to the Mississippi River are gonna rut um later in the season in order to have their fall and drop be after the flood cycle in the springtime. UM, whereas places in central, northwest and southwest Louisiana are going to have an earlier rut because that flood cycle isn't as much as the factor. And then you have to throw in the fact that in the sixties we actually transplant planted a UM I don't know the total number, but a larger out of deer from Wisconsin another northern states and release them to kind of repopulate some areas that were bearing a deer and those deer having more classic Midwestern rud cycle you know, might be like around um, Halloween, first two weeks in November. Um, that's common also. So we do say that it's always running somewhere in Louisiana. But the thing is, it's typically so hot here that we call it a trickle rut most times where it'll be rut activity. But it's not just hot and heavy, gotta be in the woods, you know, bucks running around without a thought rolling through their heads. It's not like that. It's you might see a little more daytime movement, and you might get a lot of rut pictures at night on camera, but that's about it for us. We're never really wide open like a lot of other states. What food sources are relevant right now for deer hunters in Louisiana. So that's a great question, um, I had we just on on my podcast last week. We just discussed, um, the fact that the beginning of the season last year, by opening day, all the for Simmonson dropped and that was over. That was not worth hunting, that was not worth sitting over, It wasn't even worth hanging a camera on. Whereas right now I still got for Simmons dropping well in October, but I think we're probably on our final week of that. UM. A lot of pin oaks, a lot of red oaks are starting to drop really well. Those usually dropped consistently throughout the whole season. And I'm expecting the white oaks what we call swamp folks too. Those are the big, big, old green, almost pink pong ball sized acorns. Those should be dropping any day now. And that is that's my favorite. That's like deer candy UM that started to drop finally with these cooler tips that that we just got last weekend. So acorns uh as we call the acorn trees. Oak trees are supposed to be UM probably your best bet for natural food sources in the next a couple of weeks because brows is starting to decline. I think those deer have been waiting for for oak trees to start dropping, and they've been hammering the brows pretty hard. So if you've got a hot swamp oak or white oak or something like that that's dropping, hang a camera and see if you can time it well with us and deer coming in. How does signmaking in Louisiana differ for deer and deer hunters than it does maybe in a Midwestern state. Um, we're getting to get a lot of your early season rubs that people kind of consider to be territorial. When I say your early season, I mean like the first week or two of October. That's really a lot of the rugs that you're finding early season or just in trying to get their velvet off. Um. And especially on areas where you've got a later rut, a later falling drop and um, you know later antler dropped. You know they nut might not drop the antlers until April and May. You're gonna see a lot of deer and velvet all the way up into mid October and some areas, So if you're seeing hubs this time of year, it's not so much territorial like it is pre run. It's more of just like, hey, get this stuff off of me, I gotta get it off now type of thing. Um. But I am seeing on some properties that I hunt, um, public land, I'm starting to see some community scrapes and I've got cameras set up on some community scrapes that seem even for me, even like very early, very early in the season to start seeing scrapes, but they're getting hit every single day and the thing that's most interesting is every two or three days we'll see a buck, but every day, four or five times a day you'll see does come in, jump around piano, hang around in front of the camera for a couple of minutes, and move on. So they're actually being checked more by doze right now than they are bucks. And and to be totally honest, I'm not quite sure to what to make of that as far as like an early season signmaking that one's even kind of new to me going forward. Then, in this next week or so, what do you think that buck ACTVT is going to be on a scale of one to ten in Louisiana. I think it's going to decline. Um. I think it's probably gonna go down to a five or six, which would be about average for US UM. And the reason why is the attempt surrising it's going to be in the sixties is a low and the eighties mid eighties is high again. Um. And not only that, but I think that southwest Louising in a rut is going to start to dry up and we're just gonna go back to our typical level of four or five seeing bucks uh during daylight, which isn't that great, but until your area really kicks off for it's rut activity, I think it'll probably stay in the four or five range um for the time being. All Right, Kyler, great intel, good luck with the rest of your season, and thanks for joining me. Thanks Spencer, appreciate it. And that concludes this week's episode of rut Fresh Radio. Thanks to Aaron, Josh Cole, and Kyler for joining me, and thank you guys for listening. As a reminder, you can find this week's reading material the description of the podcast, where you're gonna get articles like how to rattle in a buck on public land, the land feature too many deer hunters ignore, how to sight in a bow in twenty five minutes, and how Adam Hayes finds the biggest buck on a property. I hope you're in the woods this weekend. You're gonna find all sorts of rubs and scrapes that you didn't previously see, and you're gonna be hearing bucks rattling and seeing them sparring and hopefully get a shot opportunity for yourself. I will talk to you next week, and until then, stay wired to Hunt.