00:00:15 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it's episode d B Phil Phil throwing Phil surprised me. Oh yeah, make noise. Nobody knows what we're doing because it's a radio show. This is the weirdest. This is like a little girl's birthday party. Uh Phil. The engineer is passing out hats. He's given us those little uh blow unicorn so it looks like a unicorn. I know a hundred thousand, but come away from Grand Candy, there's still a hundred on it. Yanni. Yeah, no sugar for you, Yanni, Yanni is the year no sugar? Well, I'm going three months, three months no sugar. Yeah, refined sugar. I'm still like this morning, I had raisins in my eld meal. That's sugar. No processed sugars. Yeah, chto type of situation. I don't know if the Croissan has sugar guarantee that's got sugar in it? Really? Yeah, all those breads do for sure. Well, there's a teeny tiny bit. I'm doing your best. No ice cream at night, no oreo cookies on media. Yeah, man, I know how you love that. It's gonna be tough, but it has been tough a lot harder than not drinking booze. You're back on the booze buddy pulls strength full. So you're like, I'm gonna push the oreos aside, bring me, bring daddy, the the whiskey. No, you know what, I've become a tequila man. That's a good time. I agree. I'll do a little patron put it in a and in a little high ball and some lime juice with a little ice. Gosh, I know you don't like ice, but cocktail cocktail, Yeah, it's okay. No. The reason I'm doing is j T Van's aunt, our buddy. Yeah, he's a big keela guy, and he's telling me about how your body can process it eight times faster than the next alcohol. So it could be completely well, but I think it also leaves let's do a mediator fact check around that one eight times. Come on, Joe, you got a computer. Well, it could be complete placebo, but I could swear if I did what I did the other night at our friend's wedding. Probably I'm guessing three shot skis and maybe four cocktails. Please explain the shot ski. Shot ski is usually an old ski. Eat this candy that has shot glasses, glue, food screwed somehow attached to it. They actually had holes drilled in the ski and then the shot glasses were dropped in there. That way the bartenders could just keep giving out fresh ones. And they had everybody signed the ski as opposed to a book or something, and I'm guessing no pre up in their house. Whatever. So you have got a you got a ski with four or five shot glasses attached to it, and they get filled up, and four or five people line up and all lift the ski together. It's a team effort and tossed back a little. I like it. Whatever you want, Joe, why don't you, Yeah, why don't you take on the man's little just fact checking everything we say for the next little bit to bring it all during around the next morning at eight am after going to bed at one something, how's up? I feel like a chap feeling good. Yeah. And I swear if I would have done that with brown liquor, I would not have been in the same in regards to j that that fact checks. I would listen to everything JT vans and never tells me about anything. I love. This website does listen as the healthiest hard liquor is that at tequila dot com tequila, obvious dot com. What did you what did the mediaor podcast do for a hundred I don't remember. We uh went down and actually recorded. Uh was Joe Rogan the Godfather Godfather podcast? What do you think you're gonna do? What episode do you on now? You're in the forties. Yeah, I'll record forty one today and uh then forty two shortly after that. Because Phil's being selfish and leaving the office, I'm going with you. You're gonna be gone as well. Uh, Phil, Yeah, have you ever We're gonna have to talk about the recording we have scheduled. Phil unbelievable. Wanted to see the grand old Opry feels. So we're doing a little field trip. I'm excited. Think cal Coln sever going for the Wild Turkey Foundation, National Wild Ty Station. Excuse me, get it right, Phil? And they're also recording a podcast while down there, So and and and Janice will not be joining, So I am the I'm the new Jannie for a day. Yeah. Are you gonna bring the digital me with you? Oh that's a great idea. Yeah, probably and sound Bank as soon as we get to the airport. Your name is going to be honest Okay, that's fine. We will only answer to Janice, is it? Or Janice? Or yeah or yeah or Janice. Now, cal do you think you're gonna make it to a hundred without having some sort of breakdown? Yes, yeah, breakdown confident people. I just want to talk about how hard it is to get a weekly podcast out the door, especially the one that you do. Yes, I want that you do is way harder than this rambling nonsense. Yeah, I mean yeah, research and you know, not try. Unfortunately, there the the loophole is it's fun. People take great joy in pointing out the inaccuracies and things that you got wrong. And but and then on the back end of that, it also allows me to take more time to learn about a subject. So I found find that, you know, it's not the end of the world to get something wrong. It actually is more beneficial in my mind to myself and the audience too, because then we get to revisit something and learn more about it. Um And there's a lot of smart folks listening to the podcast, lots of people with um you know letters behind their names. And we talked about lab based met a couple episodes. A going a nuclear physicist wrote in to correct me on how energy is used in our universe. Yeah, so we'll read that in the later one, but that that happened. But I agree with you because a lot of times I'll stumble on something, we'll start talking about it, and I'll know in the moment that I don't know enough about this subject. But I know we're going to continue to bring people on that do and learn and learn and learn and learn. Yeah, it's a to get to get this far in a conversation. You kinda kind of take some side. Does kind of remind me of m Phil You know this the it's an old Simpsons episode and they're doing like they're a hundredth episode or something, and all the people that right into the show are like doctor or yeah, prime minister, the cultivated at a very seasoned audience. Yeah, it's very highly educated um audience from around the world. Got it. Well, we got a lot to do here. This is gonna it's called a podcast of too many giveaways. We have fashioned Phil didn't really I asked Phil to give me some ideas and he didn't give me ship, So I had to come up with them all by myself. Helped with the one Joe helped me a little bit with one. Um, we got four different giveaways we're gonna we're gonna go through on the show. They're all of them. You know how normally giveaways you have to give something, you have to give your email, or you have to give something and then you get things. Well, in this case, you just have to I just want you to give me something. But it's something that's gonna make me laugh. It's not really you don't have to go and hashtag anything or give any personal information. You just have to do something that's gonna make me laughing. We're gonna give you some cool prizes. I think were like ten things, and please be over eighteen years of age. Yeah, but we're gonna, Yeah, we're just gonna fly off the handle and give some stuff away as an appreciation for everybody that's listened over these last hundred episodes. So what we're gonna do is we're gonna talk about a subject and then I'm just gonna randomly throw in a giveaway. You're gonna have to listen because I'm not gonna put this on social media. You're gonna have to listen. Is the only place you're gonna get a chance to hear the details of how you win these things. So we're gonna drop those in throughout the show. So get a pen, pencil, or paper, or your phone, whatever and take notes because we're not gonna repeat ourselves. We're gonna tell you one time how you can win, and that's it. You gotta go do the thing that we ask you to do to win these prizes. But first we're gonna talk about a bunch of stuff filled we were talking a little bit about. Peter wrote a letter. I told you about this a little bit cow. This might be good for your show. Peter wrote a letter to the Postani Groundhog Club arguing to turn Postanny Phil. Everybody knows who poks tiny Phil is Phil. You're you're aware, Yes, the groundhog that the seers prognosticators agnosticators. They wrote a letter. People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals wrote a letter as they are wont to do, yes, they tend to write letters. It's and part of this was written by Peter. Executive vice president Tracy Reeman. I believe that's how you'd say that. She says this, gentle vulnerable groundhogs are not barometers. They're not wrong. I mean, that's true. Fact check that Tequila dot Com say that's true. Peter is offering the club a win win situation, breed life into a tire tradition, and finally do the right thing by a long suffering animal. What is the right thing to do? Well? They say, as a prey species groundhog, groundhogs actively avoid humans. Being in close proximity to the public causes these animals great stress. When Phil is dragged out of his hole and held up the flashing lights and crowds, he has no idea what's happening, Joe, no idea. Being regulated to a library habitat for the other days of the year doesn't allow him or the other groundhogs there to dig, burrow, or forage. It's no kind of life for these animals. Holy shit. And then here's what they say is their solution, using technology advance electro mechanical devices such as animatronics instead of live animals and more popular than ever. We even have the technology to create an animatronic groundhog with artificial intelligence that could actually predict the weather and AI. Phil would renew interest in Poksutani, generating a great deal of buzz, much like Sony's robot dog and it goes on. Can I just say this is the best idea that Peter has ever had. I love it. I feel like a pretty good idea. Would you watch the road? Did you watch the ceremony? There? No, never know, it just doesn't interest me, not at all. Cal I mean Groundhog Day right with the great Bill Murray. Um. I keep thinking of the super Bowl commercial. That's the Yeah, I just got the public consciousness. Yeah, I mean that's all you need to I mean that, that's all you need to keep the spotlight on the tiny little western Pennsylvania town puckstani Um and the I mean the Peter I mean there. Yes, they're correct, Like I guarantee you the groundhog would much rather be burrowing and doing its thing because that's how they're wired. Um. However, I'll guarantee you also that the groundhogs and captivity do live longer than your groundhogs. That some Western Pennsivnia kids probably gonna take potshot hat as it's running across the fence row the ground. What's the average lifespan of ground animals are made for captivity? Yeah? I totally get it, and I would love to see a robot ground hog pop out of a hole to predict the winner. But I would guarantee that this groundhog or the ground hogs and the Groundhog Club are treated very well. And they're not. They're not just a drug out of a hole and held up to flashing lights and screaming people. Um once a year. And then the whole thing is just if you look at a picture of it, there's like, dudes, I don't. I'm like, yeah, I don't, And I don't think I've ever watched this live. But there's guys in top hats, full three piece suits with both eyes yelling and screaming while holding up this confused looking pretty fat groundholg. So he seems like he's okay. And you have to imagine in order to pick up a groundhog, that's not the first time the groundhog has been picked up. That's a conditioned animal. No. I used to have a hamster named Squeakers when I was a kid. He would sit on my shoulder and need lettuce. Oh. I was researching um animals that have have eaten people, taken advantage of people dead people. Uh, And there is a recorded case of hamster chewing on a deceased person that could have been you, It could have been squeakers. Cow's a lot more fun to hang out with for his pocket. There was also what do you have the one where the cats were eating? You know. That's why you know, I'm very biased because I think cats are just horribly They're little ecological disasters out there that people put up on a pest pedestal and think are great. Um, just keep him in your house, that's all I want. But you have a cat, right, you have a cat. I've got two cats? Yeah, keep him inside field? Did they stay inside or they go out? And they go outside? And you probably have a dead mouse on our doorstep several times a week. Joe, what's the lifeband of groundhog? Ye? I didn't want to interrupt six years Max in the wild. You're the Jamie of the part. You gotta interrupt six six years Max in the wild two or three being average, But in captivity fourteen years, dude, we're doubling the lifespan of these beautiful majestic ground dwelling Yeah. But then, like if I was a peta person, though, I would be like, yeah, you know what else, probably lived a lot longer in captivity, you know, so you can't see This guy's got a pink, little pink party hat on with some gold litter. And I'm not afraid of debate. I'm not afraid to debate. No, I mean the groundhog does not want to be there. Yeah, you know it's wiring says that he needs to be doing something else, namely, how do you eat? Procreating? It doesn't doesn't want to be doing that, I'm sure, But at the same time, it's living a real comfortable life whatever, whatever path you want to take, I'm not gonna live and die on the on the groundhog. I will tell you if you read the comments on the YouTube section of any pet video, it is so disturbing because this theme emerges of disappointment, Like if the video doesn't show, people are like, oh, what happened? I signed up for this? Shocking all man, I want to see Hold on the Peter, folks, they're subscribed to the channel they want to see. That's the theme that emerged. It's like, here's this video of possum being dropped, but it's it's a possum being lowered gently in a plexi glass box um and people are like, what the hell I wanted possum being dropped like that. I care for I care for the animal violence to be outraged by exactly. I came for the violence, and all I got was this T shirt. I'm I'm a big speaking of and all I got was a T shirt. I'm a big fan of theme parks, massive fan. I love the production design. Listen, you can roll your eyes at the whole capitalistic horror of it all, but it takes a lot of creativity to build something like a Disney World, and I respect that it does. Next week when um, since we're gonna be there over Valentine's Day, be the the bigger person. Let Stephen Katie have their own Valentine's Day. I'm gonna take Phil the New Jannis to Dollywood. It would love nothing more said, You're going to n W t F. Phil is going to go in his first hunt this year. I'm taking him to Texas for turkeys, so you gotta really like I will surround him with the turkey culture support him. I'm gonna take several videos and put them up on on the install line of for first impression of Phil and the Turkey calling pandemonium in Mayhem. You're gonna go spend a day there and I'm jealous. I've never been. I really want to get fantastic. It's a great show. You really just need to just just fall into the culture and just be one of them. You're gonna need there's no choice different clothes, there's no choever. I don't know. I've bet like a plaid button up. Is that what you need? Something like that? Yeah, but let's listen to cal I don't know. Yeah, I mean, there's there's no you just you're gonna be immersed in it. It's at this place called the gay Lord opery Land Hotel and it is a theme park, a labyrinth, an indoor labyrinth that I I feel like I can find my way out of things pretty well. Not the gay Lord opery Land Hotel resort like it is. There's so many buffets, you can't go around the corner without another doors and elevators that go up half the floor and then three steps down to go to this place and that it's very confusing, and there's turkey calling everywhere. It is the last somebody told me this before I went the first time. They're like, the last thing you hear before you go to bed is turkey calling. And the first thing you hear when you get up is turkey calling and a dream. You are laying in your bed and all you can hear is it's amazing. It's just bizarre, and people are so pumped to be there. I always like how your hand when you do it without a diaphragm, has kind of like a hair left a little bit. Let's hear it again. I don't know is that the right way to call it hair? What is that little like that? Lower, a little like that raspiness? Be honest, you got president. I'm just changing right now in the moment. In the moment, I'm changing what you need to do to win. Giveaway number one. Was gonna do something kind of stupid hashtag, but I'm changing it now. Okay, giveaway number one. First, you gotta go to wherever you subscribe to the podcast iTunes would be good. Unsubscribe and resubscribe. It's going to trick the algorithm of iTunes and get th HC up the rankings. So it's awesome we can all do together now. There's no way for me to track that you did this. I'm just trusting you out there that you've done this. I'll do that first, and then the second thing you do based on what we were just talking about, send me audio or video of your best turkey call using only what God gave you, and we will Phil and I and we will bring Johnny as a special guest judge will judge the best turkey call. Now th HC at the metator dot com. That's th h C at the meetiator dot com. You email that in your best mouth, only what God gave you a turkey call. Then go on subscribe and resubscribe to the podcast. You do all that and you could win. Assign me to your cookbook th HC eddi tumbler with the logo on it's blue. It's pretty cool. And then a hat th HC hat. Well, that's a nice package. That's a nice package. That's only package number one. Now I'm not gonna repeat myself. Of course you can always rewind. There's that function. Now you're gonna be judging more on how realistic the call is, or maybe airing more towards just how funny the video. I wanted. I want all this to entertain me h. I want you people out that are entertained me for once, your bastards, because we've been entertaining and forming you for a hundred episodes to come. Maybe a little bit every once a while we take a week off from those things. I feel like you're being kind of harsh. They've your audience has been entertaining us for poems, and do we get a lot of poems? Got Eric Hall? We gotta get to Eric Hall at some point, our favorite listener. He sent us a voicemail that's hilarious. Phil and I were die and laughing. Really listen to a little bit ago anyway, let's get away number one. So if you want to win Mediator sign cookbook th hc Ani Thomas, signed by whoever you want, Joe Joe Fernado from. I'll even draw some sort of picture in there for you, whatever you desire, because this is all about you, dear listener. All right, that's it. Cal give me that turkey call again, just to hide people up, Yanni, give me one good man, it's Phil, that's good. Never haunted the turkey. Nope, go ahead, man, just make a noise. You still my joke? It was gonna be kind of funny. Come on, Phil, yah work get it. Joe. That sounded like somebody going out like a tof Because I don't like turkeys. Um, do you not turn hunter? I mean they do it? Not my favorite past people pick things. Um, all right, we'll moving on. That's giveaway number one. You gotta remember that ship because this is the only time you're gonna hear it. I'm not going to talk about anywhere else. Your bastards. All right. Disney is giving Bambi as cj I make over. Have you guys seen the new Lion King? Like, uh, they're calling like live action. This isn't gonna be a great conversation if nobody's seen. I started it with my family the other day, too scary. Well, I got ten minutes in and it was just a shot for shot remake of the four version, just with like incredibly realistic looking animation, and then I turned it off because I was so bored. I was like, what am I doing this? I've seen this movie, so look at Joe's gonna look up a clip to show Cal and John it. So basically what it was really just the cartoon remade. It's they've done this with a Laddin slight differences. Sure, yeah, they added an extra song for Beyonce. You know, some jokes from Tomona Bumba, But this is basically like the exact basically the exact film that came out whenever these films came out. But they've done it for Dumbo, they've done it for A Ladd. They just did it for a Laddin where Will Smith was the Genie. They did a Lady in the Tramp one on Disney. Plus they did Holy Shakes. Ready, yeah, show that, show that too. I'm gonna show that too. I've seen the trailer. You've seen the trailer, okay, but we can watch it again, talk you through. I mean, basically, if you've not seen it out there, this is basically a c g I real live action looking version of this film. Oh yeah, it's exactly the same. In the dark. Who was in this? Uh phil Um Donald Glover plays the adults. Simba Beyonce plays Nala really Beyonce. James Earl Jones came back to be Mufasa, doing the same exact lines in the same exact role. I did watch this on a plane and I just thought, this is like, it's overboard. It's just a little bit. Also, it's uncanny. It's unsettling because none of the animals have human facial expressions where it's like you can add that you can animate that in the cartoon, give like human features. You know how much everyone at this company loves it when they do that. But um, but like watching all these animals with absolutely no expression, like try to convey human emotions. It's not it's it's weird to watch. I say, they're not anatomically correct. Judging on the ward Hog, you're looking for ward hog balls and Seth Rogan placed. Really, there's a couple of questions that we have to answer here once this How long is this? Joe? Yeah? Yeah, Now I do have to say I'm glad we watched that because that that's way more cartoonish than I thought it was gonna be. Really, yeah, can you can you imagine what a live action I was reading this article in fast company dot com that was talking about it's time for this trend to die, like they're just Disney is legitimately just doing the same movie over a little bit more realistic, going back to the well, I like double down on that, just breaking in. That's all I wish I could do that. I could do a live action version of my podcast. I'll do a jazz dance. Look, how is that going to look for Bambi, because that's gonna be We're gonna have some problems with this film. Critics are saying it's gonna be too traumatizing because it's gonna be a kill shot. But there isn't a kill shot in Bamby. No, it's just the you hear the report of the blouch, yeah, as it were? Do you even hear that? Or do you is it just the in the theme score? That score? I try to watch some I watched some clips from Baby after I read this article, and I just I started to get sad because I know this is gonna be Who's gonna play the Hunter? Do you see there's going to be a cultra villain or whatever? That'd be incredible, That would be incredible. Um, Christoph Waltz possibly, And who's gonna voice Bamby? I mean, this is all these are all things. This is going to happen. They're gonna make five million dollars off this thing, and it's just gonna reintroduce generation where they call him, now, what's the generation after Millennials, which I'm at the tail end of this is going to introduce gen Z this idea in in a live action way, which is way more damning than then the cartoon version. And so boy, I feel like we're in for it. We'll see another year until it comes out, but worst we'll see really poised. Right said, I haven't got a dig into the report yet, but over half of America didn't make the choice to recreate it outside last year, So right, like at all at all? But I mean, obviously there's a lot of loopholes on that, right, It's like, you know, that sounds like a strange thing to admit. Yeah, but you know a friend of mine was a timber cruiser for the Forest Service. Right, every day hiked many many miles out doing whatever. And on the weekends that dude didn't recreationally hike anywhere. He's like, no, I'm drinking beer and then I will go back to my job of hiking. Yeah, when we say recreate outside, it's like go to the park. Part of that I didn't need. I need a dig in more. But it just seems it just seems to me like the timing. I'm not surprised. I haven't. It's been quite a while since I lived anywhere close to an urban environment. But I mean there's people in Austin, Texas where I used to live that they'd be hard pressed to get out. They get out to the you know, get out to the park once a year, and that's a big deal. A lot of instagram ship goes on when they go. There's like thirty pictures of standing by rock Boy spent a couple of days in Austin where I would get like one of those dog cones and a fix it to the nearest air conditioning unit. Uh. It's a very warm and sticky place. The need for yetti cooler out there. But what do you think about this, Yohnnie? About this film? Well, we're just gonna have to roll with the punches when when they happen. Yeah, what's the punch going to be? Though? People are just gonna go go back to hating us evil hunters for shooting baby. I don't think. I don't think this remake of this movie is gonna move the needle. You don't think so, Phil, Well, you show it to your kids? Probably not, Since none of my kids were interested in watching The Lion King, I think, yeah, I don't. I think Disney's kind of pushing these remakes too hard. But then again, it's like why King made like a billion dollars, So what do I know. I just uh think they're kind of saturating the market with all these remakes because they've got Mulan coming out next year to one point six billion dollars worldwide. The Lion King made, so why not? The Lion King was a more is a more modern iconic story, like it came Baby came out in nineteen forty two, Like it's uh, I think I think it's kind of faded out of the like the Lion King was. It was like a big deal to my generation, so I took my I'm I'm the kind of person that would like take my kids to see it because it was an important story to me. But it's like Bambi was is like kind of can you fact check that he got nineteen forty two right? He pulled it right out of his ass. Believe that right. But the thing is Phil Brings and podcast, I got no idea when Baby came out it was an arrow or fantasial fantage is incredible, Yes, it is incredible. Good on you feel good on you feel for knowing the exact year they did Lady in the Tramp too, that was a straight to the Disney streaming service. Did you watch it? Didn't they do Dumbo? Yeah? That was directed by Tim Burton. That was I wanted to see that. Really, Dumbo has got some sad stuff came out in Really. That's the thing about Bamby, though, was that no one can no one remembers what the actual plot of Bamby is. I accept that his mom gets shot by a hunter. The rabbit skunks. What's the skunks name? I don't know this because I was just reading about it. Floor Flora, flower flowers. Not very creative, that's what flora skunk? His name flower assuming because of the irony. Alright, next giveaway, you guys ready, phils, you gotta did you get a sound effect for me? Uh? Yep, it's in there perfect. Uh, here it is. And this one is going to be This is my favorite one did my favorite givebay. So listen very closely. If you win this giveaway, you're gonna get a Yeti Tundra one temp son of a Also you're gonna win a work sharp ken onion sharpener, the little desktop not desktop more like I thought the first package was a big deal. This is a large giveway. Now here's all you have to do to win this, you have to send an email to th HC at the mediator dot com again th h C at the mediator dot com with the best illustration of what Phil the engineer looks like, based only on his voice. Okay, here's the thing is that there's there's pick. There's pictures of me that are floating in the ether out there if you can find them. Let's say you've seen Phil act like you didn't see him. If it's if it actually looks like me, you're not gonna win. Good point. You can draw him as a superhero. You could draw him as a mailman. You draw him what he would look like after he killed his first turkey. Maybe illustrated group with an incredible he was in a Disney movie as a buck. Yeah, you could do anything with Phil. All creative license to you, folks. This is a big prize. So don't just draw. Don't just take out of like a crumpled piece of paper and draw a couple of things. Take some damn time. If there's any real artist listening, you've got you've got a good chance of winning. With all these poems that you guys get, do you get you guys, ever get any sketches. I do. I know that there. I know that there are a couple professionals out there listening that are regular listeners. Um. I could think of one in particular that I know has a kid shot of win this. But it's not the quality of the images. The creativity of the image as important here. So I will repeat send an email to THHC at the media dot com with the best illustration of what Phil the engineer looks like based only on his voice. You've listened to his voice for how many episodes? Phil since June? Feels like you've been here for decades, the seventies, I think, Yeah, maybe keep in mind that Phil likes the m C you a whole lot. Yep, yep, Yeah, that's something I like it. I don't love you know that. Do you know what MC stays? We don't Marvel, Comic, cinematic reverse. I didn't even know what to stay for. We know what Phil likes. Phil likes he has a dog named Mango. Just to review things that you might want to put in these illustrations. He has a dog named Mango, kind of dog, Australian kelpie, black Jet, Larry's sleek Black Black Day Night. She black dog named Mango. U yep, black dog named Mango. He has two cats, don't even care about what their names are, meat Loaf and Kevin. Is that real? That's Kevin? Alright, that's that's actually pretty good. He actually he has two cats named meat and Kevin. He once had a mustache that we named Skimpy mcweek stash. He loves Star Wars. He had his own segment about Star Wars at one point on the show. That was a big failure, big time failure. Lost a lot of listeners. I got a lot of support from a couple of people. I lost a lot of listeners over that. What else he likes that I'm weigh into Disneyland right now. He's gonna hunt turkey soon. Uh. He likes white claw, only slightly less than you r. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, only slightly less. He likes a natural lime flavor of white fall. Let's see what I dressed up with white claw. Yeah, he was the Doc Clauida cla very very punny costume. And so that's all we know about Phil. So you can use all that information to too construct an image. I don't know how you send it to me anyway you want, you can kind of you can scan it, you can take a picture of it. I don't really care what you do. You can draw on your phone with a little art thing. It doesn't matter, think about it. If you want to enter, we might even if it's a really good illustration. We can hang it in the studio, couldn't we Sure, Yeah, we could do that. There's nuber rules against that. So there. That's that's only the second giveaway. So you got giveaway number one to giveaway number two. This is my favorite one. Please don't let me down. Please please, please don't let me down. I have a very I have a newborn at home. Life's very boring. This is the only joy that I have outside of a little family. So please please, life is boring with being sarcastic with a new born. Yeah, like it's like boring. Like you know, you went to a ski wedding. I didn't do that. I was invited, but if I was, I couldn't see. I see. I got kind of stay home. And it's not that. It's just enjoy precious life. Yes, that's it. That's it. There's no like adventure other than the the adventure of keeping people alive and clean and fed. So maybe I'll back off the thing I said before. I love you, honey. All right, we gotta talk about this coyote named Mercy phil or Cal. I'm gonna let you kind of this one is. This one goes back to the Poxtoni fill thing, but it's it's so much worse. It's this is shocking to me and I did a terrible job writing it up for the Weekend reviews. I'm thank you for giving me another shot here. So basically, come out swinging nanny walks a child through Franklin Park. I believe it is. Kyote comes out, bites, where's Franklin Park, Chicago? As Lincoln Park isn't it? Is it Lincoln Park? It's right next to Franklin Franklin High School, Franklin anyway, Uh, coyote comes out, bites the child in the face, face bite, Lincoln Park. The Great band Kyote eventually is captured. There's you know, they need to make sure it's the right coyote, so they do you know, the full battery of tests to determine a if the coyote is uh sick, diseased with anything else, And they do a DNA test, so they pull coyote, DNA off the child and make sure that yes, this is the right coyote. All of this cost money. The coyote is in a rehab center for life now because uh it's been a child and can't be released somewhere again, great costs. And then you start reading in and every news outlet is like, yeah, coyotes aren't that big of a problem. But you know, the guy got bit the same day, and then there was the school got shut down because the coyote. Another coyote was spotted and so they had like a lock in at at a school because of a coyote. And then you know, basically I'm just getting more perturbed over like the city funding. Unless Chicago is has every we're gonna go Chicago later on this year, and if it's not like the cleanest, most well run, spectacular city on the planet, because where that's some bad news over with funds to where they're like, let's help out the coyotes. Um, yeah, you know, I'm going to be very angered. Here's what I would do. Kill the kyle, not with a big bullethole either, just bonk him on the head so we could skin him, tan it and then sell the fur to the highest bidder and make something out of it and then use that money to give it to some poor kids that's doesn't have enough money for food or clothes or an education. Yeah, that would be a good And again, I think you did a great job of doing what the papers did, which was totally forget about the five year old child that got bit in the face and was when he was hospitalized. At the end of the article that I read, it's it's like, it's like excusing counties are common throughout the Chicagoland area and protected under the Illinois Wildlife Code. Resident should always tay caution if they encounter a kyote, notifying controls. It remains extremely rare coyote to approach or bite a person. And that's my favorite part. It's like it's extremely were air for the coyote to be seen by people. Yet here's all these reports of coyotes being seen by people. In fact, we had to shut a school down. Yeah, in fact, we fished one out of the harbor. Child get bit in the face, And now there's a debate. It's just so weird, man, Like, there's so little debate anymore. If the big nasty rottweiler pitbull bites a child. It's like dogs canna get killed. This is my favorite. I I would like, I would love to link this article because that's the last quote they give in the preceding like ten paragraphs are all about encounters of coyotes and like humans, and the last one is like it's extremely rare, but here's ten cases they said. A thirty two year old man said he was bitten by a coyout close to where the six year old blow was built. Later that day, officials confirmed the kyater bite. A dog was also reportedly bitten by a coyote and had to be rescued by its owner and passer by. So right, the dog got bitten and had to be rescued by two people, which means that the coyote didn't just like come up and nip the dog. The dogs had to be separated, the coyote and the dog. I got like, otherwise, what was how do you rescue the dog? And why would it take two people? Of the kyote just bid something and ran away. There's so much cognitive dissidence in this in this story that my brain just wants to shut off. And again, you know Chicago more power to you if you don't have anything else to worry about, if you have all the other social issues taken care of, and there's plenty of cash overflowing your coffers to take on, you know, the plight of peaceful coexistence within the city between human and coyote. Awesome. This is my favorite part. Lakati has been named Mercy. He won't be released back to the wild since DNA evidence shows he likely bit the boy, but he will be permanently placed in an educational setting. Was with specifics you have to be determined, according to a Facebook post, and then it goes on the list all the comments in favor of putting this county in captivity, like thank you for saving this beautiful animal, and guarantee you when you go to the Field Museum. I'm going to the Field And Jana said he's going to the Field Museum with me in Chicago. Um, they'll have a coyote display and it will be somewhere in the great sage brush this ecosystem. Um, then they'll probably be like a ground squirrel and a jack rabbit poised with it amongst the sage brush and the bunch grass. And you know, it's not going to be the scrappy coyote an accurate depiction of the coyote. This guy. The reason that they never know man the Fieldmaseum might be keeping up might be I'm excited. I'm very excited because five show. Yes, some some close. I always get messed up on this because I'm like Chicago, but it's never Chicago. It's like somewhere, somewhere, a big place. You're actually in Wisconsin across the border. You're in Peoria, three hours away. Uh, my favorite place, by the way. That that again here they say that someone shot this with a baby gun and that's possibly why he became aggressive. Again like like piling on the reasons why this might have happened. And a wild animal does wild animals ship if you dig through the different news reports. So yes, this this dog or coyote Sorry a colloquial. Colloquialism is often to refer to coyotes as dogs. Out here in Montana, Um the coyote had been shot by a baby or a pellet something something frominary rifle. They couldn't determine when that was, but the assumption is is like, well, coyotes would never jump out and bite somebody. So this uh, the fact that it has a baby in it or a pellet in it, probably made it by this child. And it's just like, but they can't determine when the thing got you shot. They can't. It's they're obviously just looking for reasons spend a bunch of money to Yeah, I just found that definite signs of stress and trauma. That that was one of my favorite parts of the best part. You have extremely frightened. It was extremely frightened Mercy. But they aren't. They just aren't calling it by They invented a name that just go right with it. Mercy was extremely frightened when admitted to the rehabilitation center and showed definite signs of stress and trauma. You're telling me the wild animal that was captured by people and thrown in an enclosure. I can't wait. It's frightened and now it's being told it will live forever on in an enclosure. We see we're seeing a pattern here. Don't you dare put a groundhog in an enclosure? Do it with a coyote though? And I can't wait till Mercy has its own c g I movie about the triumph of how it educated children for year to come, it will probably learn to talk and write a book. You'll have a memoir. Well that's the nanny and the child are walking through the park. The coyote jumps out bites the child. They startled the coyote. They startled, ran up the hill and startled the sure should be just running around parks? What like? Does the child need education? I mean, now it needs serious education because it's gonna be traumatized. But a cool scar. It's like, what are you going to tell the kid to do differently? Don't go outside, bad things happen. We'll go to parks, you know? Or you know? I what, Janice, you're the only other parent in the room aside from Ben and Phil and yeah three out of I thought you're about to say the only real parent in the room. Ben clearly wants to hide inside of cooler to get away from his family. Yeah that's interesting. What do you tell that kid? I mean, you ever know it might spawn like a lifelong love of might become a coyote researcher. Yeah, yeah, we had why did this happen? We had Barry Kay Gilbert and he came. He emailed me the other day. By the way, Phil, oh, yeah, email me to tell me why the North American model of wildlife conservation still on it, by the way, shout out to Barry Gilbert. But yeah, I mean this all like weirdly ties together, right, like the whole peda thing the way they see like this, this is kind of an animal rights angle on why you shouldn't should put an animal in captivity to save it and here and the other one is kind of the opposite, let's release this thing that's in captivity. So it's just a weird juxtaposition. I find maybe I'm making a connection that isn't there, but it's certainly interesting. Uh, Cows, we can review what episode was that that? You can listen to Cow's full take forty forty. It's it's very difficult. The most recent one as of this recording. All right, giveaway number thre you gonna you get that sound effect number three? This one you're gonna win. Here's what you're gonna win, Joe, I'm gonna win it. No, you're not gonna win it. Vortex ten by forty two binos for this Wang deep and and a Western meat grinder. Holy cats, ma'am. That's a that's a one package. Man, that's full circle. And that way ny find him, grind him, giveaway all you. This is all you gotta do. And again, it's amazing how nice we're being. It's really not making you like that illustration of Phil probably take you one two full days to do. Draw it on a cocktail napkin at a bar. I don't care. Yeah, yeah, as long as it's good. As long as it's good. 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Now, don't worry. I'm on it. My work here is done. Doctor Phil Medicine Woman. The first time we did Doctor Film Medicine Woman is just random ship, Phil, What do we what do you do you read about star That was the Star Wars segment that I thought awful, awful failure. Nope, it was a fan awful Nope. I've gotten multiple positive reaction to in person and over the intern in person, so we recognize. You know, it's a will the next door social media guys, media was saying positive things about your performance. Already agreed by ranking too. That's fine. He's new. He doesn't make friends. He's just trying to suck up to Phil Fiel's got a lot of power these days. All Right, we're what, We're launching a brand new version of Dr Phil Medicine Woman. Um, and here's what's gonna be a bunch of people rode in already with something that's going on, some debate amongst themselves in their hunting circles with their hunting buddies, some camp debate something that happened that they're trying to solve, and I felt I felt like, what was better? What's better than to let a non hunter listen to this, no preconceived notions or prejudices against hunting community. Somebody with phils gravittas thoughtfulness. Everything you can say about Phil, he's right now. He's wearing a tiny little party hat. That's the gravitat. That's that's really, that's professor Phil talking. So Dr Phil Medicine woman is going to read your I've printed one out for you, right, did I? Um? I read the one that you dropped my desk yesterday. I have not read this one. That's fine, just read it. Okay, you don't like it, you haven't read it already yet. I read the other one, and I was prepared to rip this guy a new one, really, but now I guess I'll just do this on the flat. That's fine. Well, I like to surprise you with this ship. Thanks, okay, Phil, rip it out. You're gonna read so pretty long one, right, You're gonna read it. It is pretty long. Skip over the parts that aren't good. I don't know what's good and what's not, so read it and then you're gonna give your opinion and then we'll all try to help you out. Okaybody, hello Fillium already off to get start this year. Yep, that's how they addressed the email. P I P H I Okay continue this year. On the last morning of rifle season in Nebraska, I was out driving one of my fiance's Thanks for the advice, Ben Pastors. Just looking around to preface this, I should say that the day prior. Wait wait wait, wait back up. Ye thanks for the advice, Ben, That's what he said. This is theming around pastures. This dude sent me a message and asked me what he should do to propose to his girlfriend. I get this is the same closing a loop. This is Luke Reeves. I should have said that, good job, Luke. I gave Luke a fool of like, this is exactly what you should do. I don't know if he did exactly what I said. I don't remember what I said, but I'm feeling important. You played a big role. You know what I'm gonna tell us now. The advice game to to ask is he doesn't remember I don't remember. I mean one of these candy bars, like I don't even remember what it was, but it was like be strong and be true, look her in the eye, wear pants something like that. He did it. So he's stuk because now she's his fiancee and her family obviously has some land because he's driving across one of her back brought him my advice, like you gotta win or my dad always said that to me, marry girls hunting ground. I didn't do it. I married a beautiful woman. Go ahead, Sorry to interrupt your first second, that's fine. I thought that was important info. To preface this, I should say that the day prior, we had put fence up around the whole section because we were about to move the majority of their cattle onto stocks already lost. Being somewhat educated in the way dear work in this area, I realized there was no chance I was going to see anything, be it a deer or any other wildlife. But I do enjoy just shitting, just sitting and looking at pretty country. After about twenty minutes of sitting in my truck, I noticed a four by four driving across the section adjacent to ours. When it got to the fence. Someone who I can best describe as a shorter, less funny Joe Pesci, stopped and asked me if he could help me. This confused me for two reasons. I was clearly not in any distress, simply sitting in my truck listening to remy talk about almost getting stepped on by an elk shout out to cutting the distance. The second reason being this was our land, land that had been in my fiance's family for many years. The angry man then proceeds to berate me for driving through my field because he is sitting in a raised house. He calls a deer blind and scared all the deer that weren't there anyway. After a few minutes of letting Tyrian Well yell at me a short, short man, I decided the best course of action was to step out of my truck and talked to him face to face. Now, I'm by no means an imposing figure. I stand about six three and maybe way two if my hair is wet. Okay, So I had no thoughts of intimidation. I just feel it's harder to be a dick to someone if you're talking to them face to face. After doing my best to defuse the situation, reminding him that I was in fact on my own property. I felt we parted amicably. I even gave him a nice five point shout i'd found and had sitting in the bed in my truck, since at some point during the conversation he had mentioned he had a son. Now to my conundrum, how many seasons do I wait before I start lighting off our artillery shells around the clock every day during rifle season on that section, I'm a fairly average bow hunter, and I also muzzle load, so missing the nine day ship show that is Nebraska rifle season wouldn't bother me one bit. Should I give him a show opening morning next year? Should I wait and Lullham into a false sense of security before coming on real strong? U two or three years? Normally I would say this being petty is beneath me, But seeing as that far beneath me is about eye level for him, Man, this guy is just full of jokes, I thought I'd give the give it the old college try. It should also be noted that Bilbo, Okay, we're stretching it far, has gotten into some kind of altercation with everyone that lives within a ten mile radius of his little hobbit hole, from middle schoolers jogging on the gravel road in front of his house, to an elderly woman who stopped to photograph an eagle not lot van that happened to be in a tree near his home. I feel Dalton, I'm missing that one. What's that reference roadhouse? Looking up, Joe Dalton. I feel Dalton addressed these types of situations quite well. Oh wait, hold on this, Patrick Swayze is not being nice until it's time to not be nice. I wanted to ask you two as Ben did give me some solid advice on popping the question and Phil's instant story shaving his mustache to evidences to evan essence with some serious high level comedy gold Thanks again for everything you guys do for Hunters, and keep the great podcast coming. That is the email seerlely Luke. There's a lot to go over there. I feel like you got your retribution there. You just got that Red Red Live. You got your email Red Live about Bill Listen. That made me laugh. I'm sorry that we're letting the objective failed. But first Phil, make sure can you summarize like what his questions? I mean it was it was. It was a great it was very well written. Thank you, Luke. Um. This guy was a dick to him. Yeah, he went out of his way to be nice to this guy who's been historically a short man, historically a dick to every one of the people are in the community, in the community known for his dickishness. He's asking you, should he be a dick back. He's asking for your permission, Phil, your exalted status within our hunting community as a non hunter with opinions. He's asking Phil for your permission to be a dick on purpose in the future. To the short person, short man to Bilbo, do you consent? I would say not not yet. I'd say if there was another altercation, then I think that quote be nice until it's time to not be nice. I don't think it's time to not be nice yet. I feel Um that's where I am right now. Okay, do you would you tell him to go out of his way to be nice or just not be mean? Oh, just not not be mean. You already gave him the shed, right, that was a nice gesture. Maybe he could turn this very short, very mean man into a kind and gentle soul through his manevolence, benevolence, no, no, nothing, that's your official, that's my official. Dr Phil. Yeah, I mean maybe it's the Maybe it's a boring centrist point of view. I don't think you should go out of your way to be a dick, But else I don't think you should go out of your way to I don't know that's what you can look forward to. And Dr Phil Medicine Woman's segments in the future, boring centrist. If we had tackled the email that you gave me yesterday, I would have been on fire next time, next time. And Dr Phil medicine woman kave you know what it is just striking me? Is real confusing? Is this whole show why Medicine Woman? Was she not a doctor or not a well doctor? Dr Quinn is just you know, one syllable name got Dr Phil? Oh, yeah it was doctor quin was run medicine. This is Dr Phil like the like the fake TV doctor, but then also a medicine woman like me woman like another accreditation like it took me seven years to get my doctorate and then that show took place. I don't know my medicine woman standing medicine woman degree. That's a lifetime, because you're never not a medicine woman after that, that's true. They could strip Can they strip away your doctorate? Probably? They probably can't. Yeah, all right, thanks Phil. Congratulations to our emailer there on his his pending nuptials. And I'm sure my advice. Maybe he should write back in and tell me what the advice that I gave you was, because I'm sure it was good people who go out of their way to be discourteous to people that they share fence lines with. Oh my god, you got a good story. Why what you must have so much extra time and energy to willingly just rub your neighbors the wrong way? I just there's no way to live as not anything I'm gonna understand. Ever. Did you have you ever told your goose hunting stories from this year on the show podcast show? Yeah? Kind of yeah. I think I kind of explained that a way that basically, um, yeah, I don't know who's We'll just let everybody decide whose side they would take. So we went out set up a bunch of decoys in my mom's field. It's only ninety acres, not a lot of land at all, um, but lots and lots of geese for Montana standards. Yeah, for Montana standards for sure, um for And this is just like this really goofy situation, right, but like the way things go sometimes. So there's little chunker ground, but there's tons and tons of geese that come off the Yellowstone River and we're set up. And then I see this guy walking the fence line and I know that there's no cover on the other side of the fence line. I've never seen anybody walk the fence line, um, because there was a potential. I was like, well, maybe he's trying to shoot pheasants, but that'd be weird because all the all the cover really is on my mom's side of the place. Uh. And the whole place is sheep fenced, so when you know, it's not three strand barbed wire. Um. And eventually the guy kind of waves me over and he's like, yeah, so I was set up here. I think I got here before you did. And he's got like a blind built up on the neighbor's property and uh, He's like, yeah, I'm really set up for ducks. And it's kind of a weird thing because where the ducks go is into the ditch on my mom's place, and I was like, oh, well, yeah, it's a good spot for ducks, but would be tricky to do this legally because the best shooting you'd have to be very choosy with your shot opportunities in order to shoot birds and have them land on the property that you have permission on, And you know, it's kind of like this. I'm like, oh, well, listen, it's really not a big deal. As long as you shoot birds that decoy into your decoys, and we shoot birds a decoy into our decoys. If you stick to that, you can hunt back to back in theory, like literally touching back to back if your butts around the property line. Well, the geese there's a pretty good headwind, which is very helpful for decoy and geese, and the geese are swinging over the neighbor's property to get into the flight pattern to come into the decoys. And then once they hit this guy's blind, he shoots birds and one landed in our field. Um, which of course I was like, well, yeah, I go go get it. But uh, that that was like the whole game plan. Well, geez, what I typically do is sit on the fence line and shoot birds, and my dog, go get him in your guy's place. And and there's like, no, no conceivable way he's not shooting one that it's not gonna fall on somebody else's property. You'd have to, like I said, you have to be very picky. You'd have to be very very picky. You have to ignore a lot of shot opportunities because you're only gonna be able to like legally retrieve a few of them. So um and and yeah, this person uh took advantage of the birds decoin into our spread three or four times. Three times that morning, I got a few birds. At one point I turned to Miles Nualty and I was like, well, hey, the good news is all he needs is one more bird and he's going to be limited out then he can't shoot any more geese. So um, yeah, that that wasn't That wasn't great. What would you have done in that? Did you go? You storm over there filling this in this scenario. I don't have that kind of personality because I'm mostly a coward. Unless I don't unless I have to channel channel somebody from the m c U, like who, I don't know, who would you be? Now you I want you to tell me the night before, you know, I drove out and I've never in my entire life ever seen anybody hunting this section of this person's property. There's lots of people at hunt or maybe the same people that hunt very often on a different section of this guy's property. I've never seen anybody hunt this one part um, And you know, the night before, you know, I took a look at that section of the field, um, mainly to see what's going on, but also do just kind of take stock who's hunting around there, And there was nobody there. And then you know, you're setting up decoys in the middle of the night, and you know, I didn't see anybody setting up decoys on and that dude didn't see us setting up decoys. So out of the four birds that he killed, three of them landed on his side of the fence. So he shot three birds and out and two out of the three did land on his side of the fence. So he was mostly doing everything right, Yeah, but he wasn't shooting birds that were decoying into his decoys, right. Well, did he make like a gentleman's agreement with you? Did you do that? You did? Yeah? You feel like just from meeting him for ten minutes. Was he assute enough to know the difference? Yes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I think it was just like this is what I always do, and I came out here and this is my day to do it. And did you stand up halfway through and give him the scarecrow? No? No, I was just like, that's the man's decision. I think you've been worthy of at least a scarecrow. Yeah, at least, Like, come on, man, I mean there's no point, right, Yeah, No, I'm I'm I'm mostly with cal I'm nine of the time being like antagonistic back to someone who's like mildly being antagonistic to you. It's not. It only escalates the situation to some sort of like stupid like I don't know, dick and dick showing contest or something whatever, showing contests. What's that term content measuring? No, I just like it's like a show when if we don't measure them kind of dick dick showing here's my dick, where's yours? No, it's the measuring that dick measuring. That's that's the term I was looking for. Yeah, good ones, but also, don't go out of your way to like make him some cinnamon rolls, like you know, yeah, all right, we're gonna So here's the other fun part of that is my Stepdad's like, well, how to go, how to go? I'm like, oh, you know what, it worked out fine for us. We did get a couple of birds once that guy packed up and left. Um, and then I was like, oh, yeah, well here's this kind of annoying thing. We would have had more birds. And and my stepdad is the type of dude who would let anybody hunt anybody, and nobody in the history of the place has ever knocked on the freaking door to hunt. UM. And I tell him this story, and he's like, well, I'm gonna go out and I'm gonna paint every fence post orange. It's like, that's that's a bunch of crap. Had that guy just called, I would have said, hey, don't hunt today, and then you can hunt every other day that Ryan's not here, which is the majority of the days of the hunting season. And I'm like, don't do that. Like, I you know, small chunk of ground, it's you know, it's fun to have, it's not not anything to ruffle any feathers over. And I go back out there for two years to hunt geese again, and all the fence posts are painted and the like, and never what is that he's ever knocked on the damn door and asked, asked to hunh you know. And it's just like one story. And now for sure, nobody's ever gonna ask why what does that mean? The orange fence posts, it just just says no hunting. It just means like stay. Yeah, in the state of Montana, you don't have to you don't have to mark property that you have to assume it's no hunting. It's an asked permission first state. But if now you're thinking, if people see orange fence posts, they're gonna not even ask permission. Yeah, huh. It's interesting. Usually when people do that, they're very adamant about not having people on their property. I didn't know that's the that's the way the assumption has gone. I didn't know about orange fence posts. I've seen it, but I never I've never seen it like in an open field like that, because I think that's a clear message that like something went down, so I need to tell you what's up. Oh, it's funny too, because it's only on one side it's like on that that's a clear message like, hey, just this side's an issue. I don't think about this one. But it was great because my my stepdad's solution was like, well, gosh, I would have had I known, I would have called the neighboring landowner said, hey, asked this person not to hunt this day, and then they can just hunt on our place. The rest of the time. That was like the neighbor lease solution prior to this situation. Now I was like, well, now nobody's ever gonna be able to hunt her. It's just like, that's not what It just takes one, right, Phil. That's why your segment is going to be so important to the hunting community. Yeah, it's gonna change the game. Okay, all right, Well before Ago, I thought the thing that was gonna come up before he got into his little altar or what to do after his altercation, was love. How when people roll up when there's a problem, the way that they get into it is by asking the question can I help you? Yeah? Are you stuck? Like the most passive aggressive way to start a conversation. Yeah, Well so I'm in this spot in Idaho that is a giant drainage, and this guy rolls up and he says, hey, where are you Where are you hunting? And you know, I was parked in a spot where it is very obvious, like, well, I'm gonna walk right up this ridge, the ridge at which my vehicle was parked at the base of, and just go up there and sit for the rest of the night. He goes, oh, well, you know that's where I was going to send my son tonight. And it's this huge drainage and I'm like, well, maybe I'll see him up there, right, you know. And it was just he's gonna definitely see me up there if he goes right. I'm like, say, you're sticking with that plan. I didn't say anything else, you know. I mean, it's it was after work, right, so it's not a lot of daylight left. It's like, well, this this my plan. Thank you for asking. It's like, well, I'm not saying my kid up there too, especially, and stuff like that for me. If I see I'm I'm a passive that way, Like if I see somebody in a place I was going, I'll just avoid him and go somewhere else, especially in the West where I feel like there's millions of acres sitting around. I can get back in my truck, go somewhere else if I need to, Like, I just don't feel the need to press on other people's good time. I just maybe later my life I will if I've developed all this intellectual property that I'm defensing. I like to size up the other hunter and then think how how fast will his legs carry him or her up that ridge? Because if I'm the head and I get there first, I get to sit on that point. No kidding, I'm kidding. That's why he's out there. Only one time was I in a foot race, and we did end up killing elk shortly thereafter, but we were we were a solid, you know, quite a few minutes ahead, and we just saw the head lamp coming and we didn't stop. We kept on pushing. Yeah, we gotta make like just have fun with that part of it, Like that's a nice competition, Like get up the hill, get on and get it done. A little pressure. Never heard anybody. We got two more giveaways Joe Holy crash. Well, you know, yes, Ben's feeling generous so to one you already know about. But I'm gonna tell you about any because I think it's a big deal. You can win a hunt in New Zealand. Do you guys know about this? Damn you win. I haven't even gotten a hunt in New Zealand. You can win a hunt in New Zealand. Hold on, you're gonna give away a hunt New Zealand before you take hunt to New Zealand. Out he's first light, and then all the good stuff starts happening. Everybody gets to go on sheep hunts at first light. Everybody draws the sheep tang. You know you used to be happy. Yeah, I don't know. Man, don't buy a first light. It's just a bunch of what the hell? Yeah? Yeah, New Zealand Tar Hunt sweepstakes with with they must be flush over there. I know. With first Light, weather be and bench Made you get a first Light dot com slash tar Hunt you could t a h R hunt. You can enter for a chance to join me, Ben O'Brien on a New Zealand tar hunt with our friends at Southern Lake Safaris. You're also going to get a full first light kit, a weather be Mark five, weather Mark LT and a bench made knife for your troubles. So you just put email in there. What the hell. That's ridiculous. It's pretty pretty ridiculous. People already know about that. I've been talking about it a couple of weeks. But I mean, you be very happy and it just went up for the rifle, yeah, or for the first Light kit. But you get to go on a thr hunt Zealand. Do we get to find a helicopter for that hunt? Yeah? We shoot right out of the helicopter. It's gonna be just kidding. We're not doing that. But yeah, it's I have yet talked to the guys down there, but I've seen a lot of pictures of the Southern Alps where they get around and it's, um, it's as good as it gets. I'm going to apply for this. You could win a first Light kit. What a bunch of crap. That's exactly what I thought. You you win that. It's better than working for meat. Either employees don't have it, that's true. I don't know why. You know more people are first Light employees? Do they? Yeah, got given a sheep hunt. Ridiculous man, and then they made a movie about it. Uh yeah, so just be part of that party. And then again, first Light's talked about a little bit. But they haven't really publicized it all that much. So you're gonna get if you're listening to this pocket, you're gonna get um a good chance to win a freaking tar hunt man, So good luck. But you got to give up the email address for this. Yeah, all you gotta do is go to first light dot com slash t h R Hunt and earlier giveaways don't require email address. But if you want to play in and this is first Lights giveaway, yeah, if you want to jump in the deep end, Yeah, this is all first Like you can read the legal stuff there. It's all. This all goes through first Lights. So you go to their website and do everything that. Are you hosting this hot or do they go they go with someone else from first Light or they get, um, I guess I'm hosting the hunt you're going to. I'm going to Okay, and it'll be the southern lights of far so I'll be with you. We'll be doing stuff like New Zealand type of stuff I need. You can shoot turkeys in New Zealand with no no license. You just see, it's it's very lasi fair over there for turkey. So we may even get into that. No promises I'm not making the rules. Days left to enter that twenty five days left to enter and win taking me as your packer. I've thought about it. People really know Joe is a very tall, lanky individual. One of his steps is like eight of my steps. Legs like tree trunks. Yeah. Uh, that's why I hate following or having people around that that are tall, because I'm just a I'm not a bilbo per se, but average average height. You're you are a shorter less funny Joe Pesci, though, do not take that all day. I'll take that all day. You just have to do more revolutions with your legs. Yeah, No, I gotta work hard. I want to consider. Yeah, nobody cares to work hard. No, I don't necessarily think you do. You can speak to this, but I used to us Steve, and I used to argue. I used to tell him that my pull ups and my push ups were harder, more distant, pulling up two hundred pounds, and I gotta do it further. He's only got to pull up whatever, a hundred thirty pounds. I'm kidding. I think used more like one sixty anyways, pounds less, and there's six inches less in arm length and uh Rourke Denniver, Navy seal commander, the man he told me I was correct. You are correct. It's not even an argument, says the tall guys. Tall guys are so elitist us average height guys are just we're every men, men of the people. All Right, we got one more giveaway you guys ready for it. This is more or less of a giveaway and more like an agreement. And this is one that I'm doing so that the last one was first, Like, all right, here's what you're gonna do, here's what you're gonna win. You know when I first started podcasts and I had like a zoom recorder. You know about this, Johnnie being a producer, you know about this at a zoom recorder like some headphones with boom mix, all the adapters all like the chords and such. There's lots goes into it, right Phil. Yes, when you're doing a little mobile set up, it's a lot of chords and wires. So this is a fully kitted out set up podcast. Kid, it's mine. I bought up my own money three years ago when I was starting two years ago, and I'm starting this podcast. Uh. We obviously have a studio now, so I don't use it really all at at all. Sitting gathering dust, I figured we could just get that away. I don't. I can tell you. I'll tell you in the future show exactly what this stuff is. But it's a full kit to record a podcast on the go. You just create more competition out there. Wait till the see here what else? So we're gonna I will be and Phil might join me. He's pretty busy though. The first guest on your podcast, and then I will give you a phone call. I have consultation with Phil and I on how to get started, how to set up your lips and account or whatever. You're gonna use Phil, of course as an expert engineer, so you can tell you how to sound good and and you're gonna get all that stuff pretty much everything you need to start a podcast. You just gotta get your crap together and get it done. So we're gonna be if you win this, we're gonna be watching you closely, making sure you follow through all you gotta do. Send an email to th hd at the media dot com. You should know that by now describing the podcast you want to create and why you want to create it. In a hundred wards of the less, Phil and I are gonna pick the top three and then we're gonna let everybody vote on the winner. So one more time, send an email of tcs me dot com describing the podcast you want to create and why and a hundred words are the less you want to create it, what you're gonna do, why it's cool, impress us. We're gonna pick the top three and then let everyone decide the best one. And you're gonna get our podcast, a total podcast recording kit. I'll be your first guest, and a phone call consertation with with me, and more importantly fill the engineer. And this is a podcast kit with some history. You've recorded some some pretty big guests. I'm not going to clean this, kid, I'm not even gonna clean it. That's gonna come spittle from Colonel Tom Kelly. Colonel Toom Kelly has been on the heads of lots of great It's been on Yanni's head, been on Col's head. Col wore it at the Western Hunter inside of a what are you inside of the inside of a toyota? Uh, Yanni's worn it throughout the years many times. Uh. Yeah, So it's it's got a lot of history to it, so we're gonna give it to you. That's the most different prize from the other prizes. Yeah, way different. Uh listen, you can't sell it on eBay. It for probably a quite as most money as the other prizes, but surprise has much longer legs. Yeah, yeah, this has a little bit. You have to really want this and so hopefully your hundred words are less. We'll tell us how much you want it. You gotta really want this and want like be have being thought about this in the past, have something you want to do, need to kick start. This hopefully can be your kickstart starting something cool, because we want to see more cool stuff out there. It can you know, we would prefer to be about hunting, but man, if you have a cool thing about something else, that's fine. I don't really care. I just want you to be passionate about it and spread love. Um because we know here at the show it takes a lot to spend two hours a week with us or Yanni or Steve or or cal or whatever. Um just can't be a podcast about putting animals into cages. No, no, it can't be an animals podcast. Mercy, Mercy. They can't Mercy. So that's it. Man, that's a lot of giveaways. They feel like they're pretty good, Johnny with with all the giveaways, fantastic. So this is it. I will repeat this is the only This is a podcast with too many giveaways, so you don't have to enter them all. You can enter them all. You can enter one again. The only one that doesn't really belong to us is the first Light tar Hunt. But by God, go over there and enter that. Don't be stupid. And if you listen and you don't enter this, I don't know what to do for you. Like the tar Hunt is. I've been saying it for weeks, the Tar Hunt is. That's a ridiculous prize, whether I was going or not. So that one takes the least amount of effort. Yeah, I'm just gonna put your email in for Christ's sakes. I think you should change it and make it harder for that one. I wish I could. I don't have control over the other ones. So hopefully we'll see one of you guys. It's and we're going in May. We're going to last week in May this year. Yeah, holy Mac, Yeah, I think that's that's. Yeah. I'll check with our with Kea's like instant gratification. Yes, take the I said, already, go ahead and promptly take the week off work. Now when you're gonna win? Is that your boss? I've I've promptly won a contest. You're you're possibly losing a week at turkey hunting though I'm a little worried about it. I'm trying to like schedule my little turkey tour and I'm just a little nervous. I'll go for you then it's okay, but also be hunting also June bear hunting, So I'm gonna come back and go directly into bear hunting. I think, yeah, but you're going to the Great Island Aquarium that is New Zealand. I'm sure you can find multiple hunting opportunities. I'm killing the turkey while I'm over there, because that's like literally, the turkeys are just ditch chickens over there. The greatest regret. Like they they're regarded as something that should be wiped off the landscape. So you can pretty much ask any landowner, hey, I'd like to shoot that turkey. You had a turkey tour podcast yet, No, we should get together. It's coming up. Talk about that we should. We didn't have you on for the next Turkey tour. I'm usually somewhere in late January, early February when my mind flips over. That's a giveaway number one I want to want here. Man. It's a lot of stuff you guys gotta do. But whatever, man, you can win. I'm gonna make a call called the hair lip. Let's hear it again. Let's end the podcast. Let's end the podcast. Your best and loudest shreckrockrack, shreck, shreck Alright, good luck you sons of bitches. 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