00:00:01 Speaker 1: Welcome to the news show. On today's show, we're covering the ins and outs of buck Fest, which is the National Big Buck Hunter Championship. We're gonna talk about how South Dakota is going all in on suppressors at sea, like the place where you buy stuff is the devil Incarnate. Pennsylvania tweaks their catfish regulations in an interesting way. Spencer Newhart reports on bigfoots as though there's anything to say other than that's dumb. But first and more, But first, Randall on Buckfest. 00:00:41 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, last fall, as radio Live listeners might know, Phil and I went to Nashville, Tennessee, to the National Championship of Big Buck Hunter, which is the arcade game that everyone knows and loves where you have a little pump action gun and shoot the bucks and bulls and rams as they run across the screen. And so Phil and I went down there, and Phil has produced I think an award winning or at least award worthy I should say award worthy. 00:01:16 Speaker 1: Like maybe get nominated. Yeah, yeah, a nomination worthy. 00:01:21 Speaker 2: Phil produced a film of our exploits down there, and it's a pretty crazy event. They have over one hundred contestants around the World. There's one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars in prize money, and so you have to qualify for the main competition, but they also have an amateur Open, and the folks there were kind enough to slop me into the amateur Open. So I tried my hand at this and you'll be able to see how that goes. 00:01:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're ass kicked. 00:01:50 Speaker 2: I don't want to video. 00:01:53 Speaker 3: Did you get a feel for the percentage of actual hunters in that competition pool? 00:01:59 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's also covered. 00:02:00 Speaker 1: That's covered. 00:02:01 Speaker 2: That's covered in the video. I mean it is. It is funny because there's like people wearing T shirt, like matching T shirts from their hometown bar in Saskatchewan, like Camo T shirts, and on the image of the back there's a deer with a crosshair on its head, and like these these people are hunting, you know. I mean there's people from all over There's people from like New York City that live in Brooklyn and play at their little bar. But there's a lot of people that you know, are like hardcore Wisconsin Minnesota types. 00:02:31 Speaker 1: But is it mostly like drinkers? Are they drinkers? 00:02:35 Speaker 2: There's a lot of drinking involved. 00:02:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's because there is a lot like bar people. 00:02:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's bar people. It's bar people, and we get into that. We talked to the owner or sorry, we talked to the founder, the inventor of Big Buck Hunter. 00:02:48 Speaker 1: And he loaded so he'd make an off. 00:02:52 Speaker 2: I wasn't pocket watching the whole time, but I think he's doing well. He also invented the original Terminator arcade game. M have you ever seen like the little Oozi's and the little pintle mounts and they shooting on the screen. So this guy's invented probably a lot of the arcade games that you've seen in your life. 00:03:09 Speaker 1: With you you were hanging out with him. 00:03:11 Speaker 2: Now we got we got a little time with him before I think before the final championship, which was tremendously exciting. 00:03:19 Speaker 1: Phil. I saw a lot of when I was watching the video you play in the video game, I saw a lot of things that would be illegal. Yes, like you guys are shooting at salmon and stuff. 00:03:28 Speaker 2: It's not represented. 00:03:30 Speaker 3: I was to ask if you expressed Steve's grave ethical concerns of surrounding this game. 00:03:36 Speaker 5: That's the whole video Actually. 00:03:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I wanted to be a talking head in that video talk about all the wildlife violations I saw, well. 00:03:43 Speaker 2: The one the one question I did ask him. I don't know if this made it into the final cut, as I had wondered whether animal rights activists had protested that. 00:03:51 Speaker 1: Game, because do they protest it? 00:03:54 Speaker 2: He's he said they don't. 00:03:57 Speaker 1: I protested. Listen my body, Jimmy Darn when he used to have his piece joint. Yeah, I'd take my kids down and I would forbid my kids from playing Big Buck Hunter, and just to screw with me, he'd give them a roller coorders and then they'd play it, and he would do it just to make me mad. Well, check out the video. 00:04:17 Speaker 6: I like. 00:04:17 Speaker 1: I like Jimmy's style. No, I can't support it. Man, shooting fish and all that. 00:04:21 Speaker 4: You're you're also shooting zombies at some point. 00:04:23 Speaker 1: Shooting way too much at everything. 00:04:25 Speaker 7: Yeah, you guys will ever see. 00:04:29 Speaker 1: You're taking shots should be taken. 00:04:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're someone out there that's like I really don't like meat eaters, uh, serious hunting and fishing videos, this might be the one for you. 00:04:41 Speaker 1: This is another thing, another problem I have with the video. Yeah, people look in that game, come on with that little toy gun in their lives. It's not like a lot of noises. It just doesn't look like it's just not a great look. 00:04:56 Speaker 7: Okay. 00:04:56 Speaker 6: In the second iteration of this video, you know, in a month or so we'll have Steve screen and screen commentary. 00:05:06 Speaker 3: They are like you, it is like a sod Off pump action never runs out. Yeah yeah. 00:05:12 Speaker 5: I think the most telling thing that it's not four Hunters is that they hold this one in like late October. 00:05:17 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's that's the tough. That is tough thing. 00:05:20 Speaker 5: You wouldn't attract a lot of The next one is in Milwaukee. 00:05:24 Speaker 1: Oh really, you're gonna go are You're done? 00:05:26 Speaker 2: It's it's just that it lines up real unfortunately with the Montana general season. 00:05:31 Speaker 1: Got it, but you got your ass kicked or you can't say yet what happened. I think if you won all the prize money, I would have heard about it. 00:05:40 Speaker 2: If you want all the prize money, I wouldn't be sitting in this chair. 00:05:43 Speaker 5: Here's why I think you should go watch it. I believe this is probably the first Phil Taylor joint. Oh yeah, Taylor shot it ed. 00:05:51 Speaker 1: I am just especially I'm an empty. 00:05:53 Speaker 2: Vessel, uh fulfill to pour his creative talents into it's not so good. 00:05:59 Speaker 8: The powers that be are kind enough to let Randall and I get on a plane and go to Nashville. And when we we had no plan, We're just like, let's just shoot stuff and we'll put it together later. And I think what we what we made is pretty fun. 00:06:09 Speaker 2: And I will say that the Big Buck Hunter, we should point this out. The Big Buck Hunter people invited us out there, they put us up, they treated us like royalty, George Dave Snipes, they really took care of us, and we had a blast. So I mean, if you're in the Milwaukee area and you have the slightest interest in I don't know, drinking Big Buck Hunter, just like seeing people having a really good time, you should check this out. In October. 00:06:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought you said I thought you said Minneapolis. 00:06:40 Speaker 5: He said Milwaukee. 00:06:41 Speaker 1: Milwaukee. 00:06:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can go to the med Eater store and then go to Big Buck festal So, did. 00:06:46 Speaker 3: You find some camaraderie with like fellow gamers or are they not in your circle of. 00:06:52 Speaker 8: I mean there there, there is kind of there's a kind of there's kind of a wall that separates our arcade gamers with with Home with Home gamers. No, it's not really the same kind of like light gun stuff, joystick stuff. 00:07:05 Speaker 4: It's a little bit different. 00:07:06 Speaker 1: But totally different kinds of dorks that that's right. 00:07:09 Speaker 4: It's like different breed. 00:07:10 Speaker 1: But I wasn't sure, like, not all dorks get long. 00:07:16 Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure that Phil enjoyed his time in Nashville, So we did go to the same tiki bar two nights in a row. 00:07:21 Speaker 4: That's right. So yeah, I got that didn't make good. 00:07:25 Speaker 1: You didn't make an April I had. I'm gonna have to review these spent expensive It's like, yeah, why around midnight where it was just like a flurry of twenty one dollars purchases at tiki bar? 00:07:39 Speaker 4: And what the hell is a scorpion bowling? Why did you order eight of them? 00:07:43 Speaker 7: Scorpions? 00:07:44 Speaker 2: Wild Navy grogs? 00:07:45 Speaker 1: All right, Block Trail season two is out. 00:07:48 Speaker 6: Yep, it's about to be out on Thursday, April sixteenth is when the first episode drops, hosted by our friend and colleague Jordan Sillers. It's uh, our Networks outdoor true crime show. This first episode, without saying too much, is actually pretty gruesome and happen outside of Helena Montana, where a hunter disappeared back in twenty eleven and his remains were later found in. 00:08:19 Speaker 7: Two separate sites. So that's the first of. 00:08:23 Speaker 6: A number of episodes that'll be dropping, and please follow Blood Trails wherever you listen to your podcast, and you can watch the video episodes on the mediat podcast YouTube channel, so please subscribe to that. 00:08:38 Speaker 1: Okay, we got an update from Mark Kenyon on the launch of our brand new twenty twenty six land Access initiative. What you're going to hear about right now, this is a real good one. Take it away, Mark. 00:08:50 Speaker 9: All Right, Mark Kenyon here with an update on Meet Eator's twenty twenty six land Access initiative project. We're kicking this latest round off here on April fourteenth on a really cool deal that we're doing with ONEX. So here's what's gonna happen. There is a big chunk of land out in central North Carolina surrounding something called the Tuckertown Reservoir. This is about four thousand acres that have been privately owned but historically open to public access. This has been great deer hunting ground. People been waterfowl hunting, turkey hunting, you know, getting access to the reservoir and fishing. Unfortunately, the land owner of this four thousand or so acres of land has put this ground up for sale to the highest bidder. Alcoa owns this they are now going to be taken bids taken offers on this land. That would mean four thousand ish acres of land no longer publicly accessible, no longer open to hunting or fishing. So there's this organization there in the state called the Three Rivers Land Trust that has now started a campaign to try to raise funds buy some of these lands and transfer that ownership to the state of North Carolina so that it can become officially public land and be accessible for public hunting and fishing forever. That is a pretty awesome idea. That's something that I'm really excited about. That's something that Meetator is excited about, that on X is excited about, and so we've been brainstorming about, you know, how can we help, how can we make this possible? And here's what we've landed on. We have landed on helping out with a thirty day fundraising campaign for this project, in which we each meet Itor and Onyx are going to provide up to one hundred thousand dollars in matching funds. So what that means is that for every dollar that a participant donates, we will be able to donate a match dollar to that up to two hundred thousand dollars. So we could think about this, If you donate a dollar Mediator donates a dollar, and Onyx donates a dollar, you're tripling your impact. If you want to participate and help keep the Tuckertown game lands public and accessible. 00:11:05 Speaker 1: It's super exciting. 00:11:07 Speaker 9: It's a great opportunity, I think, to make this idea of keeping public lands public tangible. 00:11:14 Speaker 1: Right. 00:11:15 Speaker 9: So many of these public land issues seem like they're happening far away or outside of our control. Well, here is an opportunity to do something real that can make it real on the ground impact. And we don't need to wait for the government. We don't need to wait for a law, we don't need to lobby against. 00:11:30 Speaker 1: A bad bill. 00:11:31 Speaker 9: We can just put our money where our mouth is and try to keep this land public. So that's what we're going to do at Mediator. That's what Onyx is going to do, and that's what we're hoping that everybody listening can do as well. We're going to be running this campaign from April fourteenth through May fourteenth, and you can learn more about it or actually donate and be a part of this by going over to the Save Tuckertown campaign website. You can find that by going to tr lt dot org, slash say dash Tuckertown or just google it, or go to the Mediator website. You'll see all the details there. But we are thrilled about this. We're excited. It's thirty days. We're matching up to two hundred thousand dollars. That's Mediator and Onyx plus all of you guys listening. We can do this together, and we can help get some of these parcels made public again, keep hunting angling out there on the landscape and keep it public. 00:12:26 Speaker 1: All right, man, great news from Mark. We're excited about this one. It's a great fundraising campaign again, partnering with on X and Three Rivers Land Trust. Remember April fourteenth through May fourteenth, we're gonna match up to two hundred thousand bucks. So let's make as much of an impact as you possibly can. And also I've been bugging Mark Kenyon, who's not like responding to my prods of getting the auction house of oddities fired back up, because we're like way overloaded with auction house of oddities items like a brand spanking new Virtue, the brand spanking new Honda one hundred and fifty horsepower outboard. 00:13:04 Speaker 3: I wish my boat hold that thing. 00:13:06 Speaker 1: I'd take a bunch of barn board outboards. Barnboards. Yep, we got all kinds of other jobs. I was looking at something in my garage here down and sell on the auction house. 00:13:14 Speaker 5: Guns Corey was talking about cleaning out the storage unit and he found a canoe or a kayak in there. 00:13:19 Speaker 1: Kayak's dude, all we're gonna we're gonna have so much stuff in that auction house. I just thought of something really good the other day. I put my own guns. 00:13:28 Speaker 3: I might retire from my ice fishing and do all my ice fishing stuff. 00:13:32 Speaker 1: Someone more north, Yes, yeah, we're not. Who'd have thought we're gonna this close to the Canadian border and not be north enough for ice fishing anymore? Uh Oh, speaking of ice fishing, I got a favor to ask because of a writing project I'm working on. I need to know from people out there who fish Lake Champlain like, is the bite hot? I'm talking hard water preferably, is the bite hot. I need to go out there and look around at some things. And when I'm out there, I want to hit hit the hard water bite. 00:14:02 Speaker 5: What do you think you're gonna catch perch? 00:14:04 Speaker 1: I don't know. You mean now we're in the future, in the future now it's melted off next winter. I'm looking for a guy who I'm looking for a guy gal whoever, who likes to hit the hard water, who wants to tape me out and show me the best of Champlain. And while we're there, I'm gonna tell them a story that'll curl their hair about why I'm there so right in looking for CHAMPI right, what's that means? 00:14:29 Speaker 2: Encrypted nothing? 00:14:30 Speaker 5: That's that's there. 00:14:33 Speaker 1: No, that's not what I'm doing. No, it's way better than that. Even if that was real, it would sell trump that if I could go there and tell them two things. I could say, here's thing one I found. That thing is dead on the beach. It's dead on the beach. I can show you right now, or I can tell you the story that I'm going to tell you. They would be better off taking. 00:14:54 Speaker 5: My story that's good. 00:14:56 Speaker 1: Not my story, but old. 00:14:58 Speaker 2: You don't want to alienate these folks. Maybe they're invested in regional lore. 00:15:04 Speaker 1: I'll feel them out. Corrections, Corrections, corrections. Okay, the winner of this week's correction of the week, we'll get a Moultrie Edge three pro trail camera plus one year subscription. You know, I'm thinking, you know, I was just talking about auctioning guns off. I'm thinking about giving a gun. I might give a gun out of my personal stash one of these weeks, just out of the out of the blue. Damn, I'm going to give a gun for my personal stash to the to the corrections winner. 00:15:32 Speaker 6: Million. 00:15:33 Speaker 1: They got to make sure they don't have a restraining order, so I'm gonna send it to an f FL. I'm not mailing it to them. 00:15:38 Speaker 5: Maybe there's a correction of the year. 00:15:41 Speaker 1: That's no, it's just gonna be a random. 00:15:48 Speaker 3: Left handed correction week. 00:15:50 Speaker 1: Man, a lot of corrections about our recent hot dog. Our hot dog I wasn't called the expose. It wasn't an expose episode. 00:15:59 Speaker 5: Better than if you marketed it that way. 00:16:02 Speaker 1: Well, he didn't want to expose a Yeah. I kept being like, what's the nastiest thing you've ever seen him throw into a hot dog at a hot dog factory. 00:16:09 Speaker 2: He's like, it's all lies. Wow, and I prod it. 00:16:13 Speaker 1: I said, if it wasn't lies, you tell me you worked that angle pretty says, I would tell you if it was a lie. Uh. 00:16:20 Speaker 2: So we had we had one craction from Cody Sanders in Alabama and he's stands. 00:16:25 Speaker 1: Cody, Oh sorry, he says. Uh. 00:16:29 Speaker 2: John mentioned the white gooey stuff that comes out of fish when you cook or smoke. It is fat, but it is actually not. It is called albumin, which is a protein found in fish. Albumin is a water soluble protein naturally found in fish muscle. You'll usually see more of it when the fish is cooked too hot or too fast, or with lean fish like salmon or cod. It can also happen if the fish wasn't briand or rested beforehand. 00:16:50 Speaker 1: Did he just say, that's what I've got? 00:16:53 Speaker 3: I want to get to this after this guy. 00:16:54 Speaker 1: He's a crrection of white face. Yep. 00:16:58 Speaker 2: The best way I found it deal with face is. 00:16:59 Speaker 1: Like he's like, oh, he's like, oh, spiking a volleyball, but doesn't realize I'm spiking it back. 00:17:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's messed up bad already. 00:17:08 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a volleyball. 00:17:09 Speaker 7: Turn, right about that. 00:17:10 Speaker 4: That? 00:17:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's right about that. But lean fish like salmon or cod would be like me saying, trying to think, try to give him, give him time here. Black things like the two colors on a panda. 00:17:27 Speaker 3: Black things like that mountain going in that black bear snow. 00:17:32 Speaker 6: Or what about like lean meat like fat, or venic like pig or venice, white things. 00:17:40 Speaker 1: Like mountain goats and black bears. That's the quivalent of what he's saying. 00:17:44 Speaker 2: Go on, Randall, The best way I've found to deal with it is just smoking it low and slow. A saltwater Brian for ten to fifteen minutes helps, and keeping tempts around one sixty to one eighty does too. Even then you might still see albumin. You can control it. Not completely eliminated, but it's safe to eat. Appreciate everything, y'all do. 00:18:03 Speaker 1: Love the show, Colonel Sanders, Thanks buddy, that's a good one. I like he screwed up a little bit. That's cool. 00:18:08 Speaker 3: How are we gonna address his screw up? 00:18:10 Speaker 5: We just did? 00:18:11 Speaker 1: We just did. 00:18:11 Speaker 3: I don't feel like we explained it well. 00:18:14 Speaker 1: It's a good one though. 00:18:15 Speaker 4: Pretty much. 00:18:18 Speaker 1: Cod's lean, Sam's fatty, So him saying lean fish like salmon or cod. It's like the fatties, damn fish. 00:18:23 Speaker 3: And I don't think you're gonna see a lot of album. 00:18:25 Speaker 1: And you know, it could be he could be fishing spawned out chumps. He's fishing spawned out chumps, the kind that are going the wrong way down the river. On the zombies. 00:18:37 Speaker 2: They wrap around your legs when you're waiting in Yeah. 00:18:41 Speaker 1: It's kind of you're going the wrong way. Actually, he's all like half dead. Okay, okay, another one. 00:18:49 Speaker 5: This. 00:18:49 Speaker 1: We gotta put t s s to to the yess to rest. 00:18:53 Speaker 6: It'll be the last time I am an attorney. This is a gentleman, Mike. I'm an attorney and not a particularly elite attorney. And failing to disclose a material fact to a tribunal a mission constitutes an act of dishonesty and could subject an attorney to discipline by the state bar in the jurisdiction where the attorney practices, and or subject than malfeasant to sanctions. Now, this is not Steve's fault because Korean is responsible for production content. 00:19:26 Speaker 1: I like that. 00:19:26 Speaker 7: Oh, smack in the face. 00:19:28 Speaker 6: After listening to the various podcasts recently about TSS, I did my duty and ran to my local sports store to see what was in stock for TSS so I could buy up everything they had and hoard it as instructed. Knowing I live in a state where I'm more likely to draw an elk tag than a turkey tag, it seems there might be some TSS on the shelf, and maybe at a decent price. Imagine my surprise when not only did I find a bunch of shotgun shells labeled TSS, but the mug of this familiar fellow smiling at me see the picture. 00:19:58 Speaker 1: Below a third degree. 00:20:02 Speaker 3: This guy doesn't understand that. 00:20:05 Speaker 6: No, so so to the audience. What this gentleman has in hand are two boxes of Federal third degree meat eater ammo with Steve's face. 00:20:17 Speaker 3: He's got some three and a half inches and some three inches in twelve gage. 00:20:20 Speaker 6: Okay, he says, I don't recall any discussion on the podcast about US mentioning TSS or that we sponsor TSS or federal It seems like a material mission. 00:20:33 Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure, that's a good point, but this isn't made anymore. This is a long time ago. 00:20:39 Speaker 3: And it's only got like a small dose a TS. 00:20:42 Speaker 1: Got a small dose TSS. I'm surprised you found some because that was from a long time ago. I was fired from the cover. 00:20:49 Speaker 5: It's got a logo. We retired that logo probably four years ago. 00:20:55 Speaker 6: It's good though, probably put it on debay and get much more than that it's being sold for, which is like twenty seven ninety nine. 00:21:03 Speaker 1: Yeah, write federal letters, say I want Steve back on that animal. 00:21:08 Speaker 3: This guy offers, bring me something like I'll meet him at the exit on I ninety he can give me some of this stuff. 00:21:14 Speaker 1: So, yes, we did not mention I and talking about TSS, like picture that I was trying to play a shrewd. That would have been shrewd. Like let's say I had some kind of financial interest in selling TSS, and I'm like, TSS alert hoard it now, right, and then he and then I'm like selling all this TSS, but I have nothing to gain from that TSS. I have nothing to gain from that TSS. But still great correction. Another correction number three. So this guy says, while listening to episode eight fifty seven, I was especially intrigued when Steve discussed the map showing the locations of the oldest known servit fossils. He mentioned that no moose fossils older than fifteen thousand years have been found south of the ask A Yukon line, which immediately caught my attention. He thought, he thought it sounded surprising. He did a little digging pun intended. He says, in the course of my search, I came across a fascinating fine from the nineteen seventies, a stag moose specimen. Stag moose specimen discovered in a gravel pit near Jasper Park in Polk County, Iowa, approximately thirty thousand years old. He's like, what do you make of that? Well, it's not a moose, different critter, different critter, So I don't know what to make of that. Different critter. But still good point out. I don't think it's gonna win. I think the winner is here. 00:22:45 Speaker 2: Hmmm. 00:22:47 Speaker 1: A lot of guys, right, we picked, We just picked. We randomly picked one. We're talking about smoke phase wild turkey. So when you see a light colored wild turkey, I was saying on the show, someone was showing some picture. I don't know what we're talking about. And two of my friends unrelated have recently sent me pictures of smoke phased turkeys. I said, when I see a smoke phase turkey, I see domestic turkey genetic introgression. Meaning when someone sends me that picture, the first thing in my mind is there's some domestic turkeys around there and they've been getting it on, mixing it up, making love with wild turkeys, throwing these light colored offspring. Okay, guy writes in and says, I recently heard on Lake Pickles podcast an interview with doctor Mike Chamberlain. Okay, And he says Doctor Chamberlain points out on the Backwoods University podcast that's what Lake Pickles show is called on our network, that he himself used to have similar thoughts, the important word there being that the wild turkey doc. Doctor Chamberlain says he used to have similar thoughts, but has been shocked that turkeys can be one hundred percent wild and have these odd color phases. He states that DNA testing confirms there are multiple paths to which a turkey can display the smoke phase in other unique color phases, including one that does not involve a domestic or heritage cross. Furthermore, Tom Glinds, a former NWTF regional director, set in twenty eleven that the partially white or smoke phase turkeys occur naturally. Other sources estimate that one percent of turkeys display or carry the recessive smoke phase gene. They're coming from a feller named Joey. Final correction, This kind of blows my mind. This might win, but I think not. 00:25:03 Speaker 3: Up up to me now. 00:25:04 Speaker 1: Basically is this, Oh yeah, go ahead? 00:25:08 Speaker 3: Who wrote the title for this one? 00:25:10 Speaker 1: Good mood? 00:25:10 Speaker 3: This should be good moose hunting? 00:25:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, metags, good stag moose hunting. 00:25:18 Speaker 5: I like this way. 00:25:19 Speaker 3: This guy starts out no bona fides to start with. Not long ago, I would have been in the same boat as the news crew thinking there are very few moose in North Cota. I'm not sure exactly what we said last episode, but I was. 00:25:30 Speaker 1: I expressed surprise about there being moose, all right, I screwed up and said, oh on, you know what I said around that poacher had a dead moose. Oh, and I said he must have got that from somewhere else. 00:25:39 Speaker 3: I got you hardly enough to hold the season for three weeks ago. I was shocking. Are surprisingly shocked to read that North Dakota has a very generous moose season and issues more tags than I expected, especially compared to Texas where I live. While in Kingsville, Texas to watch our collegiate sun pitch for the Kingsville Texas Kingsville, Texas A and M have Lina's. 00:26:00 Speaker 1: What a flex that is? Yeah, it's like what a like out of nowhere? 00:26:06 Speaker 3: Maybe did, but they do have a good mascot. 00:26:10 Speaker 4: They have a Lina's. 00:26:11 Speaker 3: That's pretty sweet. 00:26:12 Speaker 2: I like this guy. 00:26:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:26:14 Speaker 3: To my pleasant surprise of red a small article about North Dakota and their big game harvesting reports. The details were unbelievable enough that I took a picture. YadA, YadA, YadA. Here are the twenty twenty five moose harvest numbers according to the North Dkota Fishing Game, two hundred and ninety two moose tags issues two hundred and eighty one hunters. I'm not sure how that. 00:26:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't get this. 00:26:38 Speaker 3: Two hundred and forty five animals harvested one hundred and forty seven bulls and ninety eight cows. 00:26:43 Speaker 1: They got so many moose to killing the hunter cows? Yeah, what's up with the two hundred and ninety two tags and two eighty one hunters. Like some dudes must have dropped. Some dudes drew and didn't hunt, didn't It's not like they're not finding people who weren't those tags. Exact dudes drew and didn't hunt. So yeah, so they got moose coming out of their ears. 00:26:59 Speaker 6: Yeah. We validated this with his brother who lives in North Dakota. 00:27:03 Speaker 3: And those are not shyris moose, like we were talking about a couple of weeks ago. I think they're Canadians, Is that right? 00:27:08 Speaker 5: I think so? 00:27:09 Speaker 2: Yeah? 00:27:10 Speaker 3: And there those things are coming into Montana now. Oh so, like northeastern Montana has a growing population of these. 00:27:19 Speaker 2: There's a line that you can draw coming down from the Canadian border in central Montana and it kind of cuts along the Missouri River country and then down southeast and that's the dividing line for Canadian shiris. 00:27:31 Speaker 3: And you'll see the standing in al falcon fields out there. 00:27:34 Speaker 1: I'm learning all kinds of stuff, all right, to recap, let's go right into voting. No need to recap. We got TSS that put the TSS to rest. No, no albumen no, how do you say it? El albumen? Albumin Are you sure you put the emphasis on that salable. I'm sure we'll hear if I don't. 00:27:53 Speaker 10: Okay, album cam on the line, TSS, Moose Fossils, smoke Phase turks, moose in North Dakota. 00:28:07 Speaker 1: Oh well, we weren't voting yet. This is doing a. 00:28:08 Speaker 5: Review, he said, No, need to reave you. 00:28:11 Speaker 1: I don't know that changed my mind. Oh okay, thanks for passing that albumen. Oh sorry, no votes, TSS, no votes, Moose fossils, no votes. Oh, smoke Fase turks right here? One vote on smoke face Turks. 00:28:33 Speaker 7: He pays a text clarifying. 00:28:35 Speaker 1: That North Dakota's are a washing moose, big time winner. Just got himself a military trail camera, got himself a one year subscription so he can put it up and catch some of them moose. He sent it to his brother, Legendary Texas. No, he can put it up and get pictures of his kid playing baseball. 00:28:53 Speaker 4: As he can. 00:28:54 Speaker 1: Just put it on the post on the edge of the baseball court. 00:29:00 Speaker 6: All right, you get three hundred thousand corrections about baseball. 00:29:08 Speaker 1: Eticquete question. 00:29:09 Speaker 3: Okay, I'll do this one etiquette etiquette question about turkey hunting. I have a family debate. Do we got a picture? 00:29:17 Speaker 1: You know what I think? I think. Let's never mind that it's pure white. OK, let's never mind. 00:29:23 Speaker 3: Matter anyway, I have a family debate. I would like some outside input on. I'm an avid turkey hunter and have gotten my calling down to the point where I can reliably harvest a bird every year. 00:29:36 Speaker 1: Good for you. 00:29:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, I recently started dating someone and she's a very avid hunter, but had never gone after turkeys. We decided to give it a shot last Saturday, and she harvested her first bird, got that picture, got it, and I had. 00:29:53 Speaker 5: Nice work, Central Texas. 00:29:54 Speaker 1: That's girl, Rune. 00:29:56 Speaker 3: The only thing is this is no normal jake as pictured. You can see that suckers pretty white. My figuring was this was an opportunity of a lifetime. Therefore I told my girlfriend to take the shot. Our issue is is that we have an Spencer movie, your cursor, I can't read. Our issue is that we have an unspoken no jake policy on my family's property between myself, father and brother. This is in Central Texas. 00:30:23 Speaker 1: It's unspoken. 00:30:25 Speaker 3: Well, it must have been spoken at some point. 00:30:27 Speaker 2: That's gonna say. It seems like they're speaking about policy. 00:30:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it officially just became a spoken policy. 00:30:33 Speaker 3: I've been ridden very aggressively over the past two days for harvesting that bird. However, is my understanding that the odds of a jake making it to the next year are low to begin with, even lower when they stick out like that. I'm standing by my decision and of looking for vindication since we likely would have never seen that bird again, also looking to brag that her first bird was that unique. Anyway, input is appreciated. My input is I don't like. The only time I got anything against shooting jake's is when it's illegal to shoot them. 00:31:04 Speaker 1: Yep. That's a good damn girlfriend he's got. It's a great turkey. I don't care. Like, especially with first time hunters in this walk. 00:31:12 Speaker 2: I would think this is a swan. 00:31:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a shot that turkey. I'm all four ie hundred percent like any unless they make it illegal because they're trying to curb harvest. If it's legal, if your state fishing Game agency says you're allowed to shoot a jake, shoot a. 00:31:30 Speaker 3: Jake, yep, if it makes you happy, go for it. 00:31:32 Speaker 1: You know it's not it's not this. You can't like bring morality or something or ethics into the idea of shooting a good to eat turkey. 00:31:40 Speaker 3: And I don't even think you need to worry about like Alwa's probably not going to be around next year. 00:31:44 Speaker 1: It's just like it's a good to eat turkey. Yep, the Fishing Game Agency has established it. They got the numbers to to shoot Jake. Shoot Jake, especially since your brand new damn girlfriend and a white one walks by. 00:31:54 Speaker 5: Yep, dead brother jealous. 00:31:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, they probably don't. They probably don't have a new girlfriend. 00:32:03 Speaker 3: If you guys are listening, you should uh send a DNA sample that sucker to the people we were talking about earlier at the Turkey DNA project. You'll find out if it's wild albino, if it's got some what'd you say, domestic introgression email? 00:32:22 Speaker 1: We go introgression? 00:32:24 Speaker 3: Random tax dollars for conservation? 00:32:26 Speaker 2: All right, this email comes to us, Well, I'll get to that. In a recent episode, Steve briefly said, I'm paraphrasing here. Didn't some state increase their taxes by some tiny amount and it's making shitloads of money for conservation? 00:32:40 Speaker 1: I sound like an idiot when you read it like that. Doesn't really sound like. 00:32:44 Speaker 2: No, no, you say it, it rolls off the top. Didn't some state increase you got some tiny amount? Its making shitloads of money for conservation. I think he's referring to Minnesota's Clean Water, Land and Legacy Constitutional Amendment of two thousand and eight, which sales text by that money over two billion dollars since two thousand and eight. All goes back to various conservation measures, but of particular interest to the mediator crowd, this funding has helped purchase over three hundred thousand acres of public land, as well as habitat work one hundreds of thousands more. If I was giving one piece of advice to sportsman, conservationists and public land lovers, mimic what is happening in Minnesota? Because going because going in on X every other week, going on on X. 00:33:29 Speaker 1: Let me ye please, because going on on X every other week and seeing a new place to hunt, fish and recreate in your home state is amazing. 00:33:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, you nailed it. Longtime listeners, love the show, loved the news split Thanks Sabine, and Sabine is the Minnesota state coordinator for pheasants forever. 00:33:52 Speaker 1: That's great, So Carl Malcolm has been talking about because he Carl Malcolm was telling me over dinner recently, like about a tale of two dates, the funding mechanism in Wisconsin being so stressed and the funding mechanism in Minnesota being so effective that Minnesota is going around buying new public land for its residents. Meanwhile Wisconsin's suffering on funding. And so Carl talking about the need to get creative around funding wildlife agencies. And they've done a good job. Missouri's done a good job. 00:34:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you can go to I looked this up after I read this email. You can go to the Congressional Sportsman's Foundation website and they have a whole page explaining conservation sales tax in different states and how different states have done it and how well it's working and all that stuff. 00:34:42 Speaker 5: Like. 00:34:42 Speaker 2: They have a whole overview of the subject. So it's kind of interesting to see the different models out there. 00:34:46 Speaker 1: I'd like to see a five cents on the dollar sales tax all goes toward all ghost five cents on a dollar, woul people vote for that five cents on a dollar sales tax and it all goes to conservation. W A narrow that wouldn't win. 00:35:04 Speaker 2: No, but no one would be mad at you. 00:35:09 Speaker 5: You wouldn't have to do it for very long. They did two billion dollars since two thousand and eight. If you did five cents out of a dollar, you just got to put up five years. 00:35:17 Speaker 1: Yeah, five years. I'll go back to normal no taxes, because then you'd have a what do you call it? When you have a big pot of money like universities and stuff and endowment, you build an endowment. Uh, if you buy stuff from Etsy, quit that runs of bitches. 00:35:33 Speaker 2: That's right now, this is from the past week. Uh. Etsy as of August eleventh. Uh so a couple of months out from now, what is it? Four months out? They will ban the sale of all animal fur, regardless of age or origin, as part of its quote unquote ongoing biodiversity efforts. 00:35:55 Speaker 1: My god. 00:35:57 Speaker 2: And so they've clarified that biod they're talking about the fur of animals killed primarily for their pelts. It does not include taxidermy or byproduct materials such as leather, sheepskin, wool, or mohair. And it includes stuff like the age and origin context is I mean like basically means if you have a fur coat from the nineteen twenties. You can't sell it on Etsy. But you can't even though that animal's been dead for one hundred years. I guess there's there's an organization called Colish to Abolish the Fur Trade, and it's a campaign, the Colish to Abolish the Fur Trade that's made up of a bunch of grassroots groups and they've been protesting against at SEA, including a quote high profile disruption of a live presentation by the CEO of ATS a Morgan Stanley event in San Francisco. So this is a win for the Coalition to Abolish the Fur Trade. And they've been working on a bunch of different companies lately, including UH, Conde Nasty. I don't know how they were how well they were involved in these, but there's a bunch of companies like Conde Nast, Mark Jacobs, things like New York Fashion Week that are getting rid of fur man. 00:37:27 Speaker 1: This has got me excited about starting a UH at. 00:37:30 Speaker 3: The esque for I don't think you should have I think you should have kept out. 00:37:35 Speaker 2: That out film. 00:37:37 Speaker 1: Whatever man. 00:37:41 Speaker 3: Whatever, Pennsylvania catfish rags, they're proposing to change them. This This was interesting to me because of of how it's how it's going to be playing out like on one side of Pennsylvania versus the other. Presently, in the state of Pennsylvania, catt catfish are listed similarly to panfish in the rags. You can have a you can catch and keep fifty a day with no size limit. And it's not like can. 00:38:08 Speaker 1: You imagine fifty big catfish piled. 00:38:09 Speaker 3: Up r And I don't think they're delineating between channel catfish, flatheads, blues. It's just catfish, right. 00:38:16 Speaker 1: Like in their mind, catfish, caffish. Yep. 00:38:19 Speaker 3: So a new proposed regulation that would that would go into place next year for the Ohio River basin in Pennsylvania, which is almost the entire western half of Pennsylvania. It's aiming to protect native blue and flathead cat catfish populations in the Ohio River drainage in Pennsylvania. And they're pretty it's a pretty huge change. For blue catfish, they would go catch and release only, and for flatheads it would go to four fish daily with only one over thirty five inches. So it's a big, big change, And I. 00:38:56 Speaker 1: Need to I want to pause in that for you. Yeah, that's why to reiterate what you just said, that's a big change. Yeah, to go from we don't distinguish species yep, and you're allowed fifty a day yep, to no retention on blues on blue, so like one day you can catch fifty blues, the next day zero. 00:39:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, And they kind of they describe these these fisheries in western Pennsylvania's like merging fisheries, which is not really, I don't think an accurate way to describe it. It's more like recovering fisheries because they're native to that drainage and they're starting to come back. Pennsylvania has a stocking program now to create a self sustaining blue cat population in the Ohio River drainage. So big changes and a couple of quotes is both the blues and flatheads are only native to the Ohio River basin in Pennsylvania. They're not native to Lake Erie drainage, the Delaware or the Potomac, and the goal of the blue catfish restoration programs again to establish and naturally reproducing population. The species was extirpated from the area in the early nineteen hundreds because of pollution, and as water quality has been restored, they've kind of both flatheads and blues have kind of started coming back on their own. I mean you can catch these things like in downtown Pittsburgh right next to Three River Stadium. 00:40:23 Speaker 1: Well home, I got a question here, yep. Why oh flatheads are saying not native to because because flats are there's flats in the Great Lakes. They're saying they're not native to them. 00:40:33 Speaker 3: They're not native to the They're native to the Ohio River drainage, but not those drainage other drainages. Because yeah, but this is very interesting in the case of Pennsylvania and other places like Virginia, West Virginia and in that Maryland Chesapeake Bay, because you drive a couple hundred miles not even that far one side, basically like the eastern Continental Divide in the Appalachian Mountain. It's like you go over that from west to east and you're now in a part of Pennsylvania where blues and flatheads are considered invasives and they're doing a lot of damage to native fisheries in like the Susquehanna River drainage. They're a big problem in Chesapeake Bay now for native fish. So it's like one side of the state they're trying to bring them back, and you can't keep them the other side of the state. They're invasive and they want them gone. It's kind of crazy. 00:41:28 Speaker 1: I'm all for it on one condition. I'm all for it on if they feel that if they see good recovery, yeah, and they see numbers come just that they'll adjust to be like, okay, you can keep it blue a day whatever. But I agree, I agree that like that kind of like loosey goosey management of lumping three very different fish together under one umbrella and then making a fifty fish thing. Because if some guy gets on kind of like a weird bite during the spawn, yeah, and pulls off twenty thirty blues, Yeah, I mean, holy cow. 00:42:02 Speaker 3: Man, especially like big spawning spinish. 00:42:05 Speaker 1: Not that I wouldn't want to be there for that bite, but yeah, yeah. 00:42:11 Speaker 3: You thank my dad for that story. He sent it to me. 00:42:14 Speaker 2: Thank you, Brodie's dad. 00:42:15 Speaker 1: You Brodi's dad. Yeah, he fought. He's not that old, but some of Brodie's relatives fought a little big horn. They're not talking, they're buried deep. 00:42:29 Speaker 6: Okay, for all those birders out there, you guys are ahead, potentially ahead of this anti aging game that everyone seems to care about so much. A new study that was published in the Journal of Neuroscience suggests that birding can actually help brain health over time, and one of the leading scientists said mitigate age related decline. More research is needed, but here we go. So the neuroscien scientist Eric Wing and his co. 00:43:02 Speaker 7: Authors with their study. 00:43:04 Speaker 6: They reveal that parts of the brains of expert birders are denser than those of novice birders when matched in age, gender, and education level. They use the neuroscientists use MRI measures to study brain function and the density of brain structures in real time. They found that changes to structural brain organization in several regions. Sorry They found changes too structural brain organization in several regions that are involved in attention and perception. They looked at how the brain regions responded when people memorize and identified birds, and some regions with structural differences also showed higher brain activities when these expert birders were looking at unfamiliar birds and that required more attention to subtle patterns of the birds, and in novices they didn't see this increase. So they know that larger numbers of people need to be studied over a period of time, so that'd be a longitudinal study. But so far, what they've found, uh, that's that leads them to believe that there is a benefit to being an expert burder. 00:44:23 Speaker 1: There you have it so here to hear this. If you're dumb, try burden. 00:44:28 Speaker 3: I want to be part of the study because I told Karin earlier that when I'm observing birds, it's generally like a very high stress not a relaxing like when I'm looking at a turkey. I'm not like, my brain's not growing, it's shrinking because of your high stress cortisol levels. 00:44:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I understand, Yeah, but you know what I do this. I do like when I'm trying to tell I'm trying to think if I just heard a gobble, Yeah, that's interesting to me. But then I feel like I'm slipping, like I'm losing my hearing. I'm getting old. But it could be that me trying to like do that little math in my head. 00:45:02 Speaker 2: Was that a gobble? How far away was he? 00:45:04 Speaker 1: I could be getting smarter. Yeah, but I'll buy that. I'll buy that because you know what, it also like ties into like this very ancient I'll get to get a little fuzzy here. But I mean, you know, we're like constructed to interact like our bodies, our physical our physical selves are constructed to like interact with a wild landscape and identify and yeah, to pay it, like to be at a state of like heightened attention, paying to what's going on around you, because that's how you survive or don't survive, you know, like listening, looking. So the fact that there's some partier brain or anatomy that flourishes in wildlife viewing and wondering about wildlife, that's not surprising to me. That was a little fuzzy. 00:45:54 Speaker 2: No, I think that. I think that was crystal clear. 00:45:56 Speaker 1: Someone's gonna put that in quotes and send it back to me. 00:46:00 Speaker 2: I'd crocheted into a little pillow and put it on my couch. 00:46:06 Speaker 1: That's good. Here, who's handling this? 00:46:09 Speaker 7: I can do this quickly? This is this is a fast one. 00:46:13 Speaker 1: But can you within this explain to me how this isn't federal? Like, why isn't this a federal thing? Go on? 00:46:23 Speaker 7: What what I understood? 00:46:25 Speaker 6: It was just a quick news blurb about South Dakota being the very first state to remove suppressors from the list of controlled weapons. 00:46:33 Speaker 7: So this was right. Now, it's April. 00:46:35 Speaker 6: So, just at the end of last month, the governor of South Dakota, Larry Rowdin, signed SB two so that deregulates suppressors at the state level because it removes suppressors from the definition of a quote controlled weapon. 00:46:53 Speaker 1: You know what I see. I understand now they're getting out ahead of it. 00:46:57 Speaker 7: Yes they are, Yes, because. 00:46:58 Speaker 1: The FEDS really need to The Feds really need to do this. 00:47:03 Speaker 3: I wonder if controlled weapons means that at some point, like no background check, you're just gonna be able. 00:47:09 Speaker 1: To well, I don't know, Oh, if it's not controlled at all, because right now it's more and you walk away with it. Yeah, like it's more controlled than the gun. It's like you can buy a gun anywhere, but you just can't make it quiet. Yeah. Like it's like, no, it's okay to have a gun. We just don't want the gun to be quiet. We want to make sure it hurts your ears. 00:47:28 Speaker 2: Hearing safe. Let's not say quiet, let's say hearing safe. 00:47:30 Speaker 1: Hearing safe. 00:47:31 Speaker 2: We don't want to give the impression that these are silencers. 00:47:34 Speaker 1: It is to me, I think that someday there will be a class action lawsuit and I'm going to be in it a class action lawsuit where deaf dudes, dudes going deaf like me sue not not guns, we sue the government. Can you take the government, could do a class action lawsuit against the government, a class action lawsuit where people with hearing damage come to other to sue the government for having made it so hard to make your gun safe level safe audible levels. This would be a great way to spend the summer. 00:48:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you do think about like I always think it makes the most sense when you put it in the context of public health. It's like when you think of all of us that are going to be old people someday. 00:48:27 Speaker 3: Oh dude, you know, like I lay down at night that tonight is like. 00:48:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, like like the it's just it's such like a cost sink in healthcare for that hearing. 00:48:40 Speaker 1: And this is part of that. You can you want to run the class action suit? 00:48:43 Speaker 2: Sure, I'll line it up. We got that attorney's email, GUYOT. Maybe when he's here giving Brody as TSS, we can. 00:48:51 Speaker 1: Here's here's the main way I look at the suppress or question. Let's just say guns were naturally the noise they are when you put a suppressor on them. Like the physics that governed the world were different, right, or we had a different I don't know what it whatever. Hell, for some weird reason, inexplicable reason, guns were the loudness they are unsuppressed that they are as a suppressed around a thought experiment. Would the government says you have to put a thing on there to make it louder because we wanted to be loud, break them all? Or would they just be cool with that level of loudness. 00:49:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting thought experiment. 00:49:38 Speaker 1: I feel like that's just how loud they are. It doesn't really hurt your ears, and we're okay with that. 00:49:44 Speaker 2: Some chemists out there might be working on low, low volume powder. 00:49:52 Speaker 1: Okay, Spencer. 00:49:54 Speaker 5: I think it's also worth pointing out in the last story, South Dakota, who Falls, is home to Silence or Central, so we kind of a nod to, you know, one of the more prominent businesses. All Right, this week, I'm going to talk about Bigfoot. Last month, there was a string of encounters that got the Bigfoot community out very excited. Oh and happened in a place that you might not expect, Northeast Ohio. In a five day span around Portage County. There were seven Bigfoot sightings, with four of those happening on the same damn day. That was March ninth. Portage County. It's located on the eastern edge of Cleveland, and Akron has one hundred and sixty thousand people. About sixty percent of them live in urban areas, forty percent in rural areas. Randall is our token Ohioan. He's familiar with the area. He'll he'll tell you more about it. 00:50:44 Speaker 1: Yeah. Really, he's taking the story over. 00:50:49 Speaker 2: I want to set the stage for you. At first, I was very excited when I sort of began to orient myself to Portage County because I thought I can mention Maurice Claret or Jim Tressel. I thought I could mention. 00:51:01 Speaker 1: The dudes from high school uh. 00:51:03 Speaker 2: Youngstown, the boys of Youngstown. That's a Youngstown, Ohio. If you just dig into the soul there, you find pure football excellence in Akron, the home of Lebron James Uh. 00:51:13 Speaker 5: Then I realized the very important details. 00:51:15 Speaker 2: They fall outside of Portage County. 00:51:18 Speaker 1: You know what you're doing. He's doing that thing. There's a word for it. It's a rhetorical device. It's a rhetorical device where you say something by saying how you're not going to say it. 00:51:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I did find out that Portage. 00:51:33 Speaker 1: County not to mention, and then you mentioned it, all right. 00:51:37 Speaker 2: Clark Cable went to high school in Portage County briefly. And then also Marvin chester Stone, as we all know, the inventor of the modern drinking straw. 00:51:52 Speaker 5: This is a good background. 00:51:53 Speaker 1: Now the turtle, the sea turtle blood on that man's. 00:51:56 Speaker 2: Hands, if you'll indulge me just for one moment. 00:51:59 Speaker 1: You guys. 00:52:00 Speaker 4: Scrolled down in the Wikipedia pages got opened. 00:52:03 Speaker 2: As I was digging into this to this place, I thought to myself, what other notable people are from Youngstown, Ohio? 00:52:10 Speaker 1: Who could be? 00:52:10 Speaker 2: Because because the list of football excellence just goes on forever, so I would. I ended up on a page called dog Sports, which is the University of Georgia football. So I found this. Thomas Bop, an amateur astronomer, noteworthy for discovering the hail Bop comet. Did you know what that? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And they. 00:52:31 Speaker 5: Were wearing what purple nikes? 00:52:33 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah? 00:52:34 Speaker 2: And at the time, good bunch Bop was employed as a construction's material He was employed at a construction materials company and actually made the discovery using a telescope he borrowed from someone else. 00:52:44 Speaker 1: Wow, fast, that guy's gotta be pissed. Fascinating stuff, But the guy that owns it, Yeah, think how bummed he is. If you'd just been looking through his own telescope, he'd have named. 00:52:54 Speaker 3: It that like me borrowing a rifle from Steve and shooting the world record mule rifle. 00:52:58 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:52:59 Speaker 2: So so with that, I feel like I've pretty well grounded our audience. 00:53:05 Speaker 1: Because at first I was like, Yeah, who cares, I don't know anything about that area, but really invested. 00:53:10 Speaker 2: But again, Youngstown is outside of Portage County. 00:53:13 Speaker 1: It's just to the east. 00:53:16 Speaker 5: Good good table setting for the rest of this story. 00:53:18 Speaker 1: So talk about like I get where we're at. 00:53:21 Speaker 2: Man, I won't even get into Mount Union football. 00:53:24 Speaker 5: Now. These sightings are gathered by the Bigfoot Society, who interviews every single witness, uh and then I read their accounts and I'm going to tell you about some of my favorite ones from this string of seven sightings. March ninth, eight PM, Route three oh three west of Streetsboro near Tinkers Creek. This is you know what these people were seeing country. A mother and daughter driving westbound when they spot a six and a half foot figure walking in the roadway. They cautiously drive around it, getting as close as three feet away from the bigfoot. The squatch then yucks into the woods, and the motorists decide not to turn around to investigate out of fear of what they just saw. 00:54:06 Speaker 3: Ball so hard, dude, Still, is there any visual evidence from the after went away? 00:54:19 Speaker 8: I've got a Google street view of this, just like Randall Spence is trying to put us in a time and place, and three. 00:54:25 Speaker 2: Ft would have been photo opportunity. 00:54:28 Speaker 5: Yeah, that thing would be like standing on the white line and you know you're where that X is in your plane, that he's real close. Uh. 00:54:35 Speaker 1: So that they drive around chem trails that day, I bet at first there's six m trails. H. 00:54:45 Speaker 5: Now that they describe it as being lean, weed smoke, yeah, yeah, they should drug test these people. That should be part of the interview witness statement. 00:54:54 Speaker 6: Uh. 00:54:55 Speaker 5: They described it as being lean with tightly grouped facial features. It was all brown, with facial hair that was lighter color than the body hair. It had long legs and long arms, and they described it having a stilt like gait. So there you go. Now, here's some commentary from the Bigfoot Society regarding their interview with the witnesses. Here's the quote. The proximity of this sighting three feet and the corroboration between a mother and her eighteen year old daughter make this an elite level report. The description of a six and a half foot lean brown subject matches another siding from the same evening, suggesting this may be a juvenile or sub adult traveling the same corridor. 00:55:39 Speaker 1: Here's what they always go. They always go where they like. Try to legitimize it with. 00:55:45 Speaker 3: Like U tex, Yeah, how many miles does that the path cover? 00:55:51 Speaker 5: Did you? Like? 00:55:52 Speaker 3: Oh? 00:55:53 Speaker 5: Like from each siding because you said it was on the same day, right, Yeah, there were a number of them in the same day. This next one I'm going to talk about this happened twenty miles east of that sighting the same day, March ninth, noon o'clock. 00:56:07 Speaker 1: Car Right, he's rotten. 00:56:09 Speaker 5: At the head Waters Trail near Garrettsville. 00:56:12 Speaker 1: Oh is that him up on the right. 00:56:14 Speaker 5: I don't think that is a trash. 00:56:17 Speaker 4: That's him. 00:56:18 Speaker 5: Jacob Taylor and an anonymous secondary witness. So Jacob Taylor. He was willing to put his first and last name out there. Other witness, No, he says, I'm going to be anonymous. 00:56:26 Speaker 6: Uh. 00:56:27 Speaker 5: They see an eight to ten foot tall figure on a trail. Yeah. They said it had extremely broad shoulders with arms extending well below human proportions. It also had a stilt light gate, which is language we heard from the last sighting as well. It had a strong musky odor and made a deep l smelling. 00:56:49 Speaker 1: Still like, don't they think that it's a person with stilts? That's what is this stilt like gate? 00:56:55 Speaker 5: Me, that's just that's just how you like. 00:56:57 Speaker 1: They don't bend their knees. 00:57:00 Speaker 3: So this one was eight to ten feet, This one must be an adult. 00:57:04 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, this is a full blow big old sasquatch. Now the encounter lasted about fifteen seconds before the bigfoot retreated into the brush. Here's my favorite detail of all these Ohio sightings. They said the ground literally shook when sasquatch ran away, So that s footsteps that damn thing like a t rex all right. The next day, March tenth, four am at the at a home on the edge of Newton Falls, Ohio. 00:57:33 Speaker 1: This is about getting the amazing photo. It's like, what are you typing illegal street view? You're using it? Yeah, but what do you you're using? Are you using l lawn or just pulling up addresses? 00:57:44 Speaker 5: Well, so the Bigfoot Society they drop a pin for where these sightings happened. And then I go to Google street View and I found the closest street I could. 00:57:52 Speaker 1: But you're pulling addresses up, yes, okay, this is. 00:57:55 Speaker 5: You know, within like a few hundred yeards. 00:57:57 Speaker 1: I thought it got more sophisticated, were able to pull up lat lawns and not addresses. 00:58:02 Speaker 3: Now looks like turkey hunt spot. 00:58:04 Speaker 5: There also also he just. 00:58:06 Speaker 1: Sat there this spring with a shotgun. 00:58:13 Speaker 5: Now a homeowner lets out there German shepherd to go to the bathroom. The K nine gets to the edge of the property and turns extremely aggressive and starts lunging and barking. That's when our witness spots it an eight to ten foot tall figure that has significant masks. That was their quote. The dog then runs back into the house and begins uncontrollably shaking. The bigfoot runs away and it's heard crashing through the brush. Our anonymous witness says the sasquatch was quote non stealthy. Hmmm, un stealthy for that one. Now here's here's the least stealthy thing about these bigfoot sightings in northeast Ohio. Four of the seven sightings were in broad daylight. A fifth sighting was right after sunset. So it got me wondering, as you suggested, Steve, is this the result of the bigfoot rush? 00:59:01 Speaker 1: Could it be? You know what it might be? Remember a dude in Montana got himself a bigfoot suit and jumped out in front of a car to scare the people in the car, but to hit him and kill them. There's like a certain hazard to doing these shenanigans that night. Like it's just you're more likely to draw a gunfire and stuff like. 00:59:21 Speaker 5: That instead of broad daylight. 00:59:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you're just like less likely to get shot. Yeah. 00:59:26 Speaker 5: No, I think it could be the bigfoot rut. Maybe there was a she squatch coming into Astris that week, or was it the March third full moon that got these bigfoots on their feet in daylight? As we talked about with dear biologists in the past. You know, there's a lot of lore. What were the dates it was, like March fifth, to the tenth. 00:59:44 Speaker 2: Mercury was in retrograde, right, Yeah. 00:59:46 Speaker 5: I forgot it. Didn't consider that now. I used to do a series on our website called Ask a Squatcher, where I interviewed bigfoot experts and asked them some really basic questions like is bigfoot dangerous? What's the best evidence that bigfoot exists? What does bigfoot eat? One of the questions I asked was why have bigfoot sightings decrease? And in that article I pointed out that bigfoot encounter surged in the early two thousands, but they've gone way down since two thousand and nine, and I wanted to get their take on this. I interviewed folks like doctor Jeffrey Meldrum, Ronnie LeBlanc, Matt Moneymaker. You probably don't know those names, but that'd be like if I said Lebron James Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant. 01:00:25 Speaker 4: Like that. 01:00:26 Speaker 5: It's just like that. Yeah. My favorite response, though, was from Jeremiah Byron, the founder of the Bigfoot Society. Here's his quote. The bigfoot population is not dying out, So don't if in case you thought that was it, it's not. But there are less sightings because we as a culture are not going out in the woods anymore. It's as simple as that. Bigfoot is not going to show up in your Instagram dms. You'll only see him while out exploring state forests or national parks. When's the last time we took time to do that. It's probably been a while since Bigfoot has seen a human either. 01:00:58 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 01:00:59 Speaker 2: I like that though. 01:01:00 Speaker 1: Remember I said, there's never anything other to say than. 01:01:03 Speaker 5: I've added a lot to this story. 01:01:05 Speaker 1: Yeah well, no, no, you didn't know. You did a great job. His point though, because because the Bigfoot people are going to need to have a rackoning with trail camps. Sure, but it was suggested to me that they're on a bigfoots are on a dimension that isn't that isn't big trail camps aren't able to capture them. 01:01:24 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:01:25 Speaker 5: Well, Jeremiah says, the drop in Bigfoot sightings it's a negative, you know, it's actually a reflection of how Americans have a weaker relationship with the outdoors. And he's not totally wrong. Here's a graph showing the Bigfoot sightings by year. As you can see, was pretty consistent trend, But then there was that spike in twenty twenty, which of course was when COVID hit. We all know how that impacted fishing license sales and campground reservations. So in twenty twenty, Bigfoot had had a little renaissance. 01:01:53 Speaker 2: I like that he's using his esoteric interest to encourage people to spend time outside. 01:01:59 Speaker 5: Yeah, Bigfoot, Now, I reached out to my castle. 01:02:04 Speaker 2: I don't know, Terric, I don't know the corrections are going to get me. 01:02:11 Speaker 5: I reached out to my cast and Bigfoot experts to get their take on the Ohio sidings. Haven't heard back from them yet, but I'm hoping we learned that it was the wad or the full moon or mercury in metro Grade. I'll give you guys an update in a future episode when we find out if it's now Bigfoot post rud in northeast Ohio. 01:02:27 Speaker 1: All right, ladies and gentlemen, No, that was great. I thought it was good. Listen we had I'm not goofing on it because remember we had a Bigfoot person on. Yeah she did again, she wasn't though. She was a reporter on Bigfoot, so it's not like I'm above it. I liked the story. 01:02:45 Speaker 5: I was bringing some candy to the episode. You guys provided a lot of vegetables and then here I come, you know, with a bucket full of dessert. 01:02:52 Speaker 1: I liked it. I'm interested. Oh did you bring your foot? 01:02:56 Speaker 5: No, I haven't brought my foot. Spencer has a big Foot's foot Sea wants in the new studio. Yeah, it's in my office. 01:03:03 Speaker 1: You paid good money, didn't You could have just brought it downstairs for this. 01:03:07 Speaker 5: Well, it's just too close. It only cost him. 01:03:10 Speaker 3: You can get your own. 01:03:12 Speaker 5: What do you mean like, I've got a cast of the most famous Bigfoot in the world of Patterson Gimlin. 01:03:18 Speaker 1: Were you telling me that you regretted buying it? 01:03:20 Speaker 5: No, zero regret. I thought I would regret it, and I never did. Hasn't hasn't hit me yet. 01:03:26 Speaker 2: Always a good feeling when you're conducting a transaction. I'm probably gonna regret this, has. 01:03:32 Speaker 5: No it's It's been one of my best purchases I've made. 01:03:35 Speaker 1: Do you think it was a cast off a cast or do you think it actually touched the cast. 01:03:38 Speaker 5: There's a number of folks who own a cast, and so I don't think I got my cast off. 01:03:44 Speaker 1: Of the cast. 01:03:45 Speaker 6: No. 01:03:46 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like a third hand cast. 01:03:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's like quite removed. You're not going to find like a hair in your cast or something else. 01:03:54 Speaker 3: Have you ever tried to like join a bigfoot hunting party? 01:03:59 Speaker 1: No? 01:03:59 Speaker 5: No, now I haven't. 01:04:01 Speaker 1: You should? 01:04:02 Speaker 5: I mean, do it all. I love it. But again I've said this a thousand times. I don't believe in bigfoot. 01:04:07 Speaker 1: Oh you know what I found out recently that it startled me. This is the end of the show, lads, gentlemen. But I found out recently that the writer Peter Matheson, okay, so was a big foot enthusiast. So when he was working on the snow leopard in the Himalaya, he's working on the snow leopard, he got interested in some of the people he was with were hip to the Yetti Yeti's and that sent him down like a path and he became something of a Bigfoot enthusiast and even toyed with the idea about doing a book. Oh so, here's this like highly esteemed member of like the American Literati Prize winning author was sucked in and we were robbed of that book was sucked in. 01:05:04 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with him. I you know, it's a few of my favorite things mushrooms and rocks like that community RockHounds, mushroom hunters. They love bigfoot like that's that ven diagram is just one circle of you know, people who like bigfoot, rocks and mushrooms. So I just get a lot of exposure from that. 01:05:23 Speaker 1: You're liking the crossfire, I can't avoid it. Oh quick, last, not before we're done. So we got we were doing our Meat Eater time Machine every month we're dropping teasing hoodies with historic themes. Right now, coming up here, we got the Pittman Robertson Act hoodie, so you can show off your conservation history knowledge when you're running around and you're genuine Pittman Robertson Act. 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