00:00:07 Speaker 1: It's meat Podcast. 00:00:10 Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your guest host Giannis but tell Us today, joined by Spencer Brody, Corey Seth and Bronson Strickland Ronson, this is your first time on the show. How do you think you'll do it? Meat Eater Trivia? 00:00:29 Speaker 3: If I do fifty percent, it'll be a victory for me. I'm terrible at trivia. 00:00:34 Speaker 2: Do you ever play along with this show at home? 00:00:38 Speaker 3: I have a couple times with graduate students in the truck, and I always lose. 00:00:44 Speaker 1: Even though you're a doctor. 00:00:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's pretty meaningless trivia. 00:00:49 Speaker 2: Uh what if I told you that all of the questions today are about white tails? Would that make you feel any different? 00:00:56 Speaker 3: A little better? Absolutely? Okay, but also more in barre when I missed questions? 00:01:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, as I always hope when I host an episode, I hope I make them hard, but not too hard, because no one likes it when I come in here with a bunch of hard questions. So I think there's some softballs in here. We'll see now. Normally, this is a ten round quick show of questions from meat eaters. Four verticals, which are hunting, fishing, conservation, and cooking. But this is whitetail Week, so in honor of North America's most pursued game animal, every question today is about the white tailed deer. I was still able to work that into three out of the four verticals, but fishing stumped me. Normally, the prize is the five hundred dollars donation on behalf of the winner, but today that's also different. Today the winner will get a lifetime membership to the National Deer Association, which is a fifteen hundred dollars value. Doctor Strickland Ronson tell folks why they should be member of the National Deer Association, because. 00:02:03 Speaker 3: It is an organization all about deer, all about education, making people better, hunters, better stewards, advocacy for deer. So it's just a wonderful organization made up of great people. 00:02:18 Speaker 2: I'll give them a little props. I find myself oftentimes unsubscribing from email lists, so I'm like, I'm not reading the stuff you're sending the nda I haven't now, I won't read every article that comes to my inbox, but there's a lot of them. I'm like, you know what that could be good for me, and I read it. 00:02:35 Speaker 1: They do a very good job of bridging the gap between biologists like doctor Strickland and hunters like us, and like giving us good information that will make us better hunters, better land managers, just like have a better time in the woods and be more educated about white tails. 00:02:52 Speaker 2: Yep. Now for the stat of the week, we're looking at the fat discounts you can get during Whitetail Week. Obviously, uh, this is a script written by Spencer and he is just straight up plugging the sale that's going on during whitetail Week. So now through Sunday, October fifth, a bunch of our and your favorite white tail gears on sale, including the first Light Phase Kit, the Core Kit, and the Thermot Kit all thirty percent off, the Source Jacket forty percent off. You can get a Moultrie Edge two Sell Cam two pack for one hundred bucks. That means you save sixty bucks off of if you're gonna buy two separately. The FHF Rifle Sling Bundle is twenty percent off, the Phelps Omega Hybrid Grunt Tube is forty percent off, And obviously there's a bunch of bunch more. Basically all, Sam just told me. All meat Eater brands are on sale this week. You can see the deals at first light dot com or themeeater dot com. Who's got something, Sam? What do you what are you excited for this seale? What do you think is a good deal? 00:04:02 Speaker 4: I really like those Moustary Edge two game cameras. Those are sweet. Get those out in the woods and get after it. I also there's some some discounts on some meteor merch that's in the store too good white Tail here. 00:04:15 Speaker 1: It has never been easier or cheaper to run a cell camera than like this very moment on Earth. That the cams are very good, The prices are cheap, the the plans to run them monthly are reasonable. If you own some land, if you'd like have access to land and sell cams are legal. This is like the moment to do it if you if you've thought about it for. 00:04:40 Speaker 2: A while, Yeah, and if you set them up doing the solar thing, which I now have. I think on pretty much all of the cameras on our place, we have gone so long now without touching or being near some of these cameras that I'm coming to think that I have two maybe three year old bucks that have seen that camera from the day they were born. I'm not messing around here, and they just simply don't have that adverse reaction that like when Alston, a three year old buck, walks by it the first time and he's just like, you know, locks on the brakes and gives you the stare down and you don't see him again. Like these bucks are just like it's just part of their normal thing, maybe a good thing, and they definitely don't smell like me anymore. 00:05:23 Speaker 1: The Kiling Hoodie is also on sale this week. That's probably like my most used based layer on the website. It has I think twelve hundred reviews. It's like our most reviewed thing, four point eight four stars. So not only do I love it, but everyone who's purchased one. 00:05:37 Speaker 2: What zamebody? This would be a good trivia question. What was the Kiln Hoodie call? Before it was called the Kiln Hoodie? Climate no legend that was the fleet one? 00:05:46 Speaker 1: Maybe I have. 00:05:47 Speaker 5: Origin the LJ is what was that called. 00:05:51 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna remembory either right now, but I would say that that piece while you're thinking, I would say that piece is what put first light on the map. Ye like I'm guided multiple hunters that would be wearing a wool hoodie and I'd be like, what's that? This is long before I even knew about First Light. Oh, this is his first light. I still have one of the like I live in it. 00:06:11 Speaker 1: O God, irritate me. 00:06:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, Phil, can you google it for us while we're talking right now? No, I said it would be a good trivia question. I didn't say I knew the answer again, Trauma. You're right. The good work on steel trap memory, which is why it makes Brody a uh real trivia contender. White a week again, happening right now first light dot com biggest sale of the year on our best white tail specific products. No I F I F a Q or housekeeping today Other than this fly It buzzed around us all during the podcast too. It is I'll do It'll be. 00:06:58 Speaker 6: My bonus point to the player who can. 00:07:00 Speaker 1: Oh, just Phil's been killing some in the studio. It's just too many of them. 00:07:05 Speaker 6: Get some fly tape in here, Phil, Ye, good, Yeah, it might be good for acoustics as well. 00:07:10 Speaker 2: Phil, you're ready, Yeah, let's do it. The Jennifer Index today is a four, so our winner should get eight. Correct. Answers Bronson, if you don't know, Usually it's a Shelby Index, who is Spencer's wife. She plays before we all play, and she gets a score, usually double. Her score is what the winner will get. I ran my questions by my wife this morning. 00:07:35 Speaker 1: She got four right, and after going to the Madison tailgate tour and the Milwaukee store opening, a lot of folks now treated as their barometer. That's who they're competing against each other. 00:07:43 Speaker 2: Oh, it's against Shelby. 00:07:45 Speaker 1: Or the Jennifer Index or whatever the index is that week, So it now serves that purpose more than predicting the outcome. 00:07:52 Speaker 2: It made me feel good that she got four because I'm like, it can't be that hard. There we go, even though definitely a couple she just pulled out of her rear end. But all good with that. We're onto the game of trivia. Play the drop, Phil. 00:08:06 Speaker 1: Look, I need to know what I stand to win everything? 00:08:11 Speaker 7: How's just tend to win everything? 00:08:20 Speaker 5: Gamon Suckers. 00:08:23 Speaker 2: The first question is, as always, multiple choice. It is also one of the listeners submitted questions this week, and it was sent in by Kevin Robinson of Missoula, Montana. Go Cats Go, Griz for sending this great question. Kevin is Kevin is going to get a board game signed by the crew. If you want a chance to win a listener question of the week, then send your question to Trivia atthemeeater dot com. The question is what antlered big game species shares the same pope and young minimum entry score of one hundred and twenty five inches with typical white tail deer? Is it cou's deer, shius, moose, black tail deer or dull sheep? 00:09:11 Speaker 1: This is a great question. 00:09:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is good job Kevin. Kevin had as a non multiple choice, which I thought was way too hard. 00:09:20 Speaker 1: Huh Yanni. 00:09:24 Speaker 2: Again, the question is what antlered big game species shares the same pope and young minimum entry score of one hundred and twenty five inches with typical white tail deer? Is it cou's deer, shius, moose, black tail deer or dull sheep? 00:09:47 Speaker 1: P and y. 00:09:49 Speaker 5: Gerald, go, p and y Yanni. 00:09:50 Speaker 2: I think it? Will you know you're gonna have you measure it? 00:09:54 Speaker 5: Yeah, happy to break out the stretch of tape for you. 00:09:58 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Does everybody have an answer? Yeah? 00:10:03 Speaker 1: You don't want tape that stretches, then it would score smaller. 00:10:07 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it's like non. 00:10:09 Speaker 8: You measure it and then the usually a string or a cable, and then you get the stretchy tape out. 00:10:14 Speaker 5: You go round up. 00:10:16 Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead and reveal your answers. Ronson says black tail deer, Sam, black tail deer, Spencer, Shiris moose, corey doll's sheep. Seth hard to read your name there, Buddy Shyros and Brody Shyris. We have some correct answers. It is Shiris moose. Good job fellas the Pope and Young. Minimum for typical coups is seventy inches, typical black tail deer is seventy five inches, and doll sheep is one hundred and twenty inches. 00:10:47 Speaker 5: Oh see, that's where I was off. 00:10:50 Speaker 2: Shiros moose in habit parts of southern BC and Alberta in Canada, and mountainous regions of Washington, Idaho, Montana, Utah, Wyoming and Colorado in the US. The world record archery Shiris is one and ninety two inches and was killed in Colorado. Has anybody in the room gone through the process of submitting an animal to Pope and Young? Nope, no, no, I haven't either, So I think maybe with that bowl of mine, we should do that. We'll have a little experience with it. 00:11:17 Speaker 1: If you had asked me before right now, what the Pope and young minimum score for a shyris, mooses, I don't think I would have been within forty inches. 00:11:24 Speaker 2: No, me, neither thought of it been way higher. 00:11:26 Speaker 5: They don't have small, great. 00:11:27 Speaker 9: Big giant scores. 00:11:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean, like they score them weird. 00:11:33 Speaker 2: They do all right. On the question two. The next question falls into our conservation, vertical and forestry. What does the acronym dB H stand for? Hmm, well, bone here from my buddy set I know that doctor Strickland's going to have this one right as well. The question again is in forestry, what does the acronym dB H stand for? Like I said, bones here for Seth and Bronson. Their boards are down. Everybody else is thinking tv H. 00:12:26 Speaker 5: Ask me about BBD and I could tell you. 00:12:28 Speaker 2: All day, big bear down. Yeah, that's what I was. Once again, the question is in forestry, what does the acronym d b H stand for? This is one that Jennifer got correct. Just not gonna help anybody. 00:12:51 Speaker 1: She's an ecologist, she's an ecologist. Do you have this right, Brody? No, no good. 00:13:11 Speaker 2: Everybody have a question or an answer that's gonna have an answer. 00:13:15 Speaker 1: Questions for sure, Yanni. Have you seen Breaking Bad? 00:13:22 Speaker 2: Yes? 00:13:22 Speaker 1: This is like the Fly episode of Breaking Bad. Now in here. 00:13:26 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't remember that episode. I didn't see. It got too long for me. 00:13:30 Speaker 5: Oh oh it only got better though, Bud, Well, that. 00:13:33 Speaker 2: Might maybe, but when they can't wrap it up, I don't like it. 00:13:35 Speaker 1: The Fly episode was controversial. It was the lowest rated episode of the highest rated season. Oh, it's a good episode. Yeah, no, I liked it. 00:13:44 Speaker 2: Now I have to go back and watch it. Sam, Oh, give me a about done rioting. You're drawing pictures. 00:13:54 Speaker 9: Look through that dear management thing, se find. 00:13:58 Speaker 2: There might be. 00:14:01 Speaker 4: I took a couple extra minutes to read that. 00:14:03 Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead and reveal your answers. Ronsin says diameter breast height sam, density by one hundred, spencer, dead buck, habitat, corey, dig big holes, seth, diameter at breast height brody, deer, and bare habitat. The correct answer is diameter at breast height Wow. According to the book Managing Oak Forests in the Eastern United States, Foresters commonly evaluate the diameter of a tree at a standard height above ground to ensure consistency. Because trees have more swelling as you get closer to the ground, a measurement there would result in a greater diameter than if you measured two, four or six feet above ground. So years ago, this standard was developed at four and a half feet above ground. At this height, most of the swell is gone, and it is a convenient height for most adults. In fact, because four point five feet above ground approximates breast height, the measure has come to be known as diameter at breast height or DBH. Tell else why DBH is important to a white tailed deer hunter. 00:15:05 Speaker 3: In terms of managing your forest and in terms of monetizing the sale of your trees, You've got to keep track of what is the DBH and the basel area and the inventory and the board feed, et cetera, et cetera, so you can figure out either when to thin that stand for management or the final harvest. So that is the way that would be the equivalent of boone and Crocket's score for me and a deer dbh's to a forester. 00:15:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like when I jumped into that whole habitat management thing three four years ago. That was like one of the first things where I was like what and then basil area kind of falls on the heels of that, and that was that took a lot longer to understand than diameter of breast height. But either way, I feel like it's one of the first things that you kind of you have to learn when you're looking at managing the forest. On the question number, well, somehow my numbers went away. I think it's three. Yes, hope you guys like this one. How many waypoint icons that specifically use the term white tail does on X have? 00:16:13 Speaker 5: Nice? Huh, great question. 00:16:16 Speaker 2: I'll repeat the question. How many waypoint icons that specifically use the term white tail does on X have? 00:16:29 Speaker 1: Well? 00:16:29 Speaker 2: I love about it is that everybody here has used icons that say this. No, haven't you come on never once. 00:16:41 Speaker 8: It's been a minute since I've really thought about white tails when I'm looking at onyx. 00:16:46 Speaker 7: But how many. 00:16:47 Speaker 9: Cory sees a white tail? He's like, Mark, this is the wrong place to be. 00:16:51 Speaker 5: I grew up hunting, but it's been a minute. 00:16:53 Speaker 2: Well, I was telling uh ronson before we got started that when I first heard that bull bugle on Tuesday. I was like, Oh, he's in the white tail metal because there's this one medal that just always has Sometimes it's a dose and it's a buck, but there's like always a white tail deer in this spot. And but today there was a bowl, or that day there was a nice six point bowl. 00:17:14 Speaker 1: I aspire to be as organized as some folks on on X where I would have a white tail icon for something, but it's mostly x'es. A lot of them are red. 00:17:25 Speaker 2: My favorite icon to lay down is when I do, whether it's a white tail icon or a elk icon, and then I color them black and it has someone's initials and the date and that serves as where the spot where that animal died. 00:17:42 Speaker 1: My favorite icon is green, because that's what I do when I have hunting permission on a place. If I have a lot of green, it's looking up for me nice. I like it. 00:17:52 Speaker 2: All right, there we have an answer written down. It should be a number again. How many waite point icons that specifically use the term white tail does ONYX have? Go ahead and reveal your answers. Bronson eight, Sam two, Spencer one, Corey two, Seth two, Brody two. We have one correct answer. It is one which. 00:18:15 Speaker 1: Is just buck buck whitetail maybe or maybe doe. 00:18:21 Speaker 2: But they don't have they don't use the term white tail in it. The other deer related icons are named but dough buck, mule deer, and just simply buck. Obviously. Yeah, we have other ones that are related, but yeah, only one that uses the term white tail. Onto the next question. Which cartridge has produced the most combined typical and non typical white tailed deer entries in the Boone and Crockett record books. That's not right time, I thought I messed up Phil. 00:19:11 Speaker 1: M twenty two. 00:19:15 Speaker 7: Rim Fire. 00:19:18 Speaker 1: At Night would be a problem. 00:19:19 Speaker 2: Sam, You're not gonna write one down, I'm thinking. Okay again, which cartridge has produced the most combined typical and nontypical white tailed deer entries in the Boone and Crockett record books? You see how hyphenated white tailed deer? Mm hmm, I'm just that's just for Pat Dirkin. 00:19:40 Speaker 9: That's a good little half a finger, isn't he? 00:19:43 Speaker 2: Is he big on that too? Is he? I can't remember? I think he is. Thanks. 00:19:50 Speaker 3: Wait, you you intentionally put the hyphen white tail. 00:19:56 Speaker 2: It should be white white hyph tailed. Then I messed up space dear, you're right. 00:20:02 Speaker 1: How do you write it? 00:20:03 Speaker 3: Doctor Strickland white hyphen tailed. 00:20:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I meant to do. Sorry, Pat, like the honest version we were talking earlier. How it takes a it takes a strong human to say I messed up, I'm wrong. 00:20:17 Speaker 3: Congrats to you on that. 00:20:19 Speaker 2: Everybody have an answer. 00:20:22 Speaker 1: Thanks. I bet this cartridge just blows the other ones out of the water. I would assume it's not close. I'm guessing that's what I'm hoping too. 00:20:35 Speaker 2: It's uh very interesting play for text. Here here to come. 00:20:40 Speaker 1: I'm excited. 00:20:41 Speaker 2: Sam, no idea. Come on, we'll write a popular Okay, go ahead and reveal your answers. Ronson says, thirty hot six, Sam three hundred, Spencer thirty hot six, Corey thirty hot six, seth thirty thirty already thirty odd six. The room did well. The correct answer is thirty hot six. 00:21:03 Speaker 1: Do you have do you have the top five or something? 00:21:06 Speaker 2: I don't quite have top five, but. 00:21:08 Speaker 1: I would guess number two is maybe like a two seventy. 00:21:12 Speaker 2: Okay, so let me read the flavor text and then we can discuss thirty hot six has a total five hundred and fifty five entries. Second place is the twelve Gates shotgun with five hundred and thirty six. And now I know it's not technically a cartridge, but I thought it was worth mentioning as method of take. The actual second place cartridge is the two seventy. Even more interestingly, I found that if you add up all of the different drawways of compounds and include long bows and recurves because for some reason they like to break it out by like forty five to fifty five, fifty five to seventy and seventy up or whatever, if you add all of those up, that accounts for one four hundred and twenty entries. So like are hammering, yeah, boone and crockets with their bows, right. That's also not including the eight hundred and fifty eight entries from crossbows, which I found which I found interesting. So like, both of those beat the thirty because they're hot and during the rut in some states a lot of states. 00:22:19 Speaker 1: I am still surprised that twelve gage would be that high. 00:22:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I just think there's a lot of shotgun only states. You know, if you're interested in messing around with that kind of information. I found this all using Boone and Crockett's Big Game Records Live Weapon Visualizer, which is a lot of fun to play around with. 00:22:40 Speaker 1: I think you have to be a member though, to you? 00:22:42 Speaker 2: You do? 00:22:42 Speaker 1: Yeah? 00:22:43 Speaker 2: Yep? Was that five? Phil? Was that? That was four? Okay? Number five? What is the name of the hardened fibrous tissue that replaces a white tailed deer's upper incisor teeth? The room looks shocked. Wait, oh, I guess I could read it. What is the name of the hardened fibrous tissue that replaces a white tailed deer's upper and size or teeth? 00:23:11 Speaker 1: Bronson doesn't have an answer yet either. It makes me feel better about not knowing it. 00:23:20 Speaker 2: So like the deer doesn't have teeth there, but in place of those teeth there is a tissue there. We've all carved it off, probably preparing our skulls for boiling, and it has a name. This might be the hardest one. Number six is going to be a softball. Okay, don't get two down on yourself, all right, Doctor Strickland, Do you feel like, at times in your life or your career you have known the name of this fibrous tissue. 00:24:01 Speaker 3: No, oh, okay. 00:24:06 Speaker 2: I imagine it's the same on an elk. And it's a little. 00:24:09 Speaker 3: Bit of a trick question though, you think, no, big trouble in little China. 00:24:18 Speaker 9: How would it be the same. 00:24:19 Speaker 2: On an elk? They have the same thing, then what's in ivory? Well, those would be like canines or tusks. But I'm talking like like these teeth here. 00:24:35 Speaker 1: Upfronts. 00:24:38 Speaker 2: If they don't have those teeth, gotcha instead, there's a hardened fibrous tissue. The answer is surprisingly simple, but. 00:24:56 Speaker 1: You got it, Corey. 00:24:57 Speaker 5: I think so. Actually, after that last well hit bit. 00:25:02 Speaker 2: Brody's still thinking. I gotta say so when you when you host a trivia episode, I usually have like a list of running questions and then Spencer lets me in on this document that has every question has ever been asked me to your trivia and if you're lucky, only like one or two of your questions have already been asked. I had four that hit me yesterday at like five pm. Colle give me an example, piebald had been used. Okay, I'd have to look at the other ones, but yeah. 00:25:38 Speaker 1: This is a replacement one that you were you know, maybe there you. 00:25:42 Speaker 2: Go all right, go ahead and reveal your answers. Bronson says cartilage, Sam bucktooth, that's a good one, Spencer, fang, tissue, Corey calcium Seth without an answer, and Brody says gums, that's a zero percenter. Today the answer is dental pad. Well, yeah, The dental pad acts as a cutting board for the lower incisors to cut against the hard rubbery pad helps them efficiently gather large quantities of plant matter by pinching it between the pad and their bottom teeth. The clip food then moves to the molars, where it is ground into finer particles for digestion. Remember that for a zero percenter and upcoming one dental pad. 00:26:25 Speaker 1: Bronton, what do you think of a dental pad? That was that? 00:26:30 Speaker 3: I have heard that the many many many years ago. 00:26:33 Speaker 2: Well, when I knew Bronson was coming on, I'm like, I gotta have a couple of hard ones. All right, since I was question five, it's time for a scoreboard update. 00:26:41 Speaker 6: Phil at halftime, Sam James is not currently on the board yet zero points. Corey Calkins has one point. I'll tied up with. Two are Brody Seth and our guest Bronson Strickland and in first place. Our host, Spencer Newhart, was three points. 00:26:58 Speaker 2: Okay, anybody's game. Anybody's game, Sam, I think you're still in it big time. All right, on to question number six. The fish Filay's sweet meat, breakfast loins, weenie loins, and mud veins are all nicknames for what chunk of meat in a deer? 00:27:22 Speaker 5: Is this an Upper Midwest thing? 00:27:24 Speaker 2: Come on, I know you've heard of one of those nicknames again. The question is the fish filays sweet meat, breakfast loins, weenie loins, and mud veins are all nicknames for what chunk of meat in a deer? We used the fish a lot. Use that term, yep. I think that's one of the more popular ones. 00:27:49 Speaker 1: The fish a sentence. 00:27:55 Speaker 2: I know, I think that would reveal the answer. Meat looks like half the room's feeling pretty confident. 00:28:04 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's definitely Upper Midwest Northeast thing. 00:28:07 Speaker 2: Mm hm oh did you get him? No, he did not. 00:28:15 Speaker 1: Yanni took a swipe and. 00:28:17 Speaker 2: Steve if we had that salt gun. Okay, does anybody need more time? Everybody have an answer? All right, reveal your answers. Ronson tenderloin, Sam, tenderloin spencer, tenderloins, tenderloins, tender loins. The correct answer is tender loins. This is the deer's equivalent to file mignon. The muscle is used very little by deer, making it extremely tender. I searched for a while as much time as I could give it, like, what does that muscle do? Do you know? Ronson? Like what it? It doesn't do much? We know that, but what is its purpose? 00:28:57 Speaker 7: Sorry, wouldn't it be late? 00:29:00 Speaker 2: Really? 00:29:00 Speaker 5: November hit thrusting with well answer. 00:29:02 Speaker 2: You know, jokingly. I have heard that multiple times that the only time they use that muscle is when they get up on their hind feet. I don't know, maybe. 00:29:11 Speaker 1: Nothing, And that's why it's you're right, you're right. 00:29:15 Speaker 2: Maybe the dolls are even tender because they use them they don't have to get on their back legs. The mud veins, I've only heard that one time. But I had an elk hunting client who is lucky enough to draw one of Michigan's elk tags kills a bowl and the guide is gutting it and he goes, hey, what do you want me to do with the mud veins? 00:29:37 Speaker 9: Maybe they're called mud veins because they use that muscle when they're taking a poop. 00:29:41 Speaker 2: Well maybe, well, but this guy's answer was close to the guts. He's like, oh, what are the mud veins? He's like, oh, these things right here, like they taste like mud, they're close to the guts. They're no good mud. I take them out and I feed them to my dog. I've heard people think about it and well yeah, but this client that I was guiding was like, yeah, I don't think so go ahead and put those in my cooler. You're not taking my mud veins, all right. Next question is also a listener submitted question was submitted by Morgan Burks of West Virginia and for sending this great question. Morgan is going to get a board game signed by the crew. And if you want a chance to win Listener Question of the Week, or maybe there's two that week, then send your question to Trivia at the meat Eater dot com. The question is what state has the highest number of Boone and Crockett entries for white tailed deer one? Now, Bronson, you do some work with Boone and Crockett. 00:30:46 Speaker 3: Correct, Uh huh, I'm a professional member. 00:30:49 Speaker 2: Okay, being a professional member, do you feel like these Boone and Crockett questions are like is it helping you? 00:30:57 Speaker 3: I'm at no advantage, no advantage, Okay. 00:31:02 Speaker 2: There's a few, yeah, okay, not like US amateur members. Again, the question is what state has the highest number of Boone and Crockett entries for white tailed deer as of when? Uh at? Like what yesterday? Yesterday? Yeah? 00:31:28 Speaker 9: Because I feel like there could have been some changes over time. 00:31:32 Speaker 1: Yo, Seth has destroyed the fly. He now has fly guts on his hat. 00:31:40 Speaker 2: Getting sick of thing. 00:31:41 Speaker 1: We could have used you here like three hours ago. 00:31:44 Speaker 2: Speaking of hats, I got one of those camouflaged wired to hunt hats. It's got a little rope on it, just like that one. It's got a little eight point running across it. It's on sale, but it's also become my first and ever lucky hunting hat. I've never had one, and it just happened. 00:32:01 Speaker 1: To be Dang. 00:32:02 Speaker 2: I killed a caribou and the bowl wearing that hat. And usually I don't like going into the woods with just a regular ball cap. I feel like I get sweaty and I'd much rather have something that's a little more techy that drives faster. But I walked in the woods wearing that hat killed the bowl. 00:32:16 Speaker 1: Good. So it's the most popular hat in our office, so it might be a few people's lucky hunting hats. 00:32:22 Speaker 7: Soon. 00:32:23 Speaker 1: You have to let me get a lick of that hat, rub off some of that good luck. 00:32:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's in the truck, Herbert. You ready, Brody, all right? Rebeal your answers. Ronson Wisconsin, sanm Nebraska, Spencer, Wisconsin. The rest of the state says Wisconsin. You are correct. Wisconsin comes in up top with one eight hundred and twenty two entries. 00:32:50 Speaker 1: Could we guess the others? Do you have the I have the next four Texas, Pennsylvania, No, not on the Michigan so many deer know. 00:33:01 Speaker 3: Illinois, Iowa, Illinois, Kansas, Ohio. 00:33:07 Speaker 2: Illinois is second. Sorry, Illinois is second with one thousand, four hundred and forty Minnesela Kansas, followed by Iowa at one thousand, three hundred and thirty, Minnesota one thousand, one hundred and ninety four, and running out the top five is Ohio with one thousand and forty nine. Yeah. I probably would have put I was number one, I think if I would have been asked that question. But as we've talked before with you, Spencer. You feel like this is there's a bias there because you feel like Wisconsinites are just more into the whole Boone and Crockett process. Yeah, books, and so they just submit more deer to boon and crocket. 00:33:49 Speaker 1: And I think Wisconsin kills way more deer than Iowa. 00:33:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can. You can also go kill two bucks there every year, whereas Iowa's you know, you gotta draw Iowa four years, did you or whatever? 00:34:02 Speaker 3: And numbers wise, they have a bigger digger population, so they're going to produce more bot. 00:34:07 Speaker 7: Crockets, more Boone and crockets. 00:34:09 Speaker 2: There we go. This is great, aving Bronson here, we came around for a whole week of content. Okay, next question, we're still we're hanging out in the record book category. In what state were their world record archery typical and non typical white tailed bucks killed? 00:34:31 Speaker 1: World record? 00:34:32 Speaker 2: It's one state, Okay, in what state where the world record archery typical and non typical bucks kilt? Currently they are current world records. Unless I did my research wrong and misread something, I believe that both of them are from this state. 00:35:01 Speaker 1: H m hmm. 00:35:11 Speaker 2: Again the question state that could give away. It would be a little too much info. The question is in what state where the world record archery typical and non typical bucks killed? 00:35:30 Speaker 9: Got an answer? 00:35:31 Speaker 2: Did we do? We have one of these people on the podcast. 00:35:34 Speaker 5: Oh, come on now, send it down. 00:35:37 Speaker 2: Just curious. 00:35:42 Speaker 9: Don't answer that. 00:35:44 Speaker 2: I can't answer it. I don't think it's gonna help. O mm hmmer something do you want me to know? Okay, let's just wait just a little bit, because if Bronson hasn't listened to that episode, they'll give it rest unfair advantage. Kay, he has a need more time. Ready to go. Everybody's got a state written down. Reveal your answers. Ronson Kansas, Sam Iowa, Spencer Illinois, Corey Indiana, Seth Kansas, Brody Kansas. We have again one correct answer. It is Illinois. 00:36:23 Speaker 1: I thought Indiana like that one. 00:36:25 Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna be Indiana too. Mel Johnson killed the world record typical in nineteen sixty five with the trad bows, and Luke Brewster killed the world record non typical in twenty eighteen. I believe it was with a compound. Johnson's typical scores two hundred and four and four eights. Brewster's nontypical scores three hundred twenty seven, seven eights. Johnson killed his on October twenty ninth, and Brewster on November twod, proving that late October and early November are great time frames to be in the woods if you're looking for a monster buck. 00:37:01 Speaker 1: I interviewed Luke when he killed that buck and wrote about it on our website, so you could go find something on the meat eat or down. You got that question right, Yes, yeah, I was at a big advantage there. Good job for Luke Brewster's buck. 00:37:13 Speaker 2: Yeah. I found it great that the guy killed it with a trad boll. 00:37:17 Speaker 9: Well, what year was it? 00:37:18 Speaker 2: Sixty five? 00:37:18 Speaker 1: Oh? 00:37:19 Speaker 2: Come on, I know, but there was probably a couple of wheel bows around. 00:37:24 Speaker 1: But I don't think it's that okay, he was in the thirty thirty though. 00:37:28 Speaker 2: He was also wearing a flannel shirt, no camoaly. 00:37:32 Speaker 1: Luke Brewster's buck. If you think you know what a giant non typical world record white tail looks like, you actually don't like you need to go see pictures of it. It's it's that insane. There's just so much antler happening, and so much of it coming towards the ground as opposed to vertically. It's big buck. 00:37:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's amazing. I bet it's heavy. I'd like to know how much how much those Antler's away. 00:37:56 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's got mass Andy's heavy. 00:37:58 Speaker 2: That's right. Just like Jeff Foxworthy said, ones, how many states can you legally hunt white tail deer? 00:38:09 Speaker 8: In? 00:38:11 Speaker 2: I didn't hyphenate at this time, how many states? 00:38:21 Speaker 1: It's a lot of them. 00:38:23 Speaker 2: Yes, it is a lot of them. You might think about counting the ones that you can't hunt them into get your answer. 00:38:35 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 00:38:38 Speaker 3: It's whitetail including cows. 00:38:41 Speaker 7: Yes, like the pronunciation. 00:38:57 Speaker 2: Ronson, Yeah, again, the question is how many states can you legally hunt white tail deer? In? A lot of thinking going on in here. It's very warm in this room. When we get late in the game, Brody's got an answer, Ronson's writing one down. I think everybody's got something written down. 00:39:31 Speaker 9: Swinging for the fences on this one. 00:39:33 Speaker 6: All right, fellas, this is question ninety honest what it is? 00:39:37 Speaker 9: Well, we can let's do our score update before you're do it after nine. 00:39:41 Speaker 1: I guess there we go. 00:39:43 Speaker 2: Sorry again when I copy and paste that something went wrong with the formatting. Go ahead, and reveal your answers. Ronson forty five, Sam forty three, Spencer forty five, Corey forty nine, Seth forty seven, and Brody forty nine. Spencer and Bronson got it correct that it could be a trick, like. 00:40:01 Speaker 1: You can legally kill them in Alaska despite them not living there. 00:40:05 Speaker 9: That's what I was thinking, like, they if they're there, you can shoot them. 00:40:10 Speaker 2: Maybe I should have phrased it differently, but you got it the way I think. Yeah, the ones you cannot hunt white tail deer in are Alaska, Hawaii, Nevada, California, in Utah. Ai actually try to tell me that Arizona didn't either, but we all know it's not true because Arizona's packed with cows deer. Which are you white What. 00:40:33 Speaker 9: Are the states you can't again? 00:40:36 Speaker 2: Alaska, Hawaii, Nevada, California, in utah. 00:40:40 Speaker 1: I wrote down Oregon. But they must have a season for their white tail. Yeah, that you you can kill them in the northern part of the state. I looked at doing it there once because they have some white tail habitat. 00:40:55 Speaker 2: But do they have a white tail season or a white tail tang? 00:40:57 Speaker 1: I don't know. My guess is no, it's just deer. And I remember when I was looking into it, it was like once every few years somebody would kill one, like right on the Utah border. 00:41:08 Speaker 9: And there's no Colombian whitetail in California. 00:41:11 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think you can hunt. 00:41:15 Speaker 2: Only places I could find Colombian whitetail or it was uh no, uh. 00:41:23 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'm only seeing a mule deer season. 00:41:29 Speaker 2: Can we move make adjustments. 00:41:31 Speaker 5: That we'll all just get that one correct. 00:41:34 Speaker 1: I think the game would be more interesting if I got it wrong, which I think I probably did, because I think Brody is right about Utah not being one of them. 00:41:43 Speaker 2: Oh so you think it's forty six. I think so that means everybody got it wrong then yeah, nobody had forty six right. Well, I mean you should look it up. 00:41:52 Speaker 9: See is it legal to kill white tails in Utah? 00:41:55 Speaker 2: I'm sure on it. 00:41:57 Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I mean, yeah, that's what I just I just looked at him, and so far I'm only seeing mule deer for having like an archery and rifle season in general. 00:42:06 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:42:06 Speaker 6: I specifically searched for whitetail as well, and the first thing that came up is mule deer, but I'm not haven't dug deep at all, So. 00:42:13 Speaker 2: Going to the deep AI mode, do do your scoreboard update and the correct answer review, and I will try to get an answer in the meantime. Let's do it. 00:42:24 Speaker 4: Well. 00:42:24 Speaker 6: If there are no revisions to the score, Spencer does indeed win the game because he cannot be caught by the second place player who is our guest Bronson with five points. Spencer has seven, and then behind them are Brody and Seth with four, Corey with three, and Sam with one. 00:42:39 Speaker 2: Ron'son excellent showing, well, thank you. 00:42:43 Speaker 9: Yes, as it is legal to kill whiteter in whitetail in Utah, but only if you obtain the proper hunting license and permit. 00:42:51 Speaker 2: All right, so technically is that an AI answer? 00:42:54 Speaker 9: Well, I'm key, I'm looking at some more. 00:42:57 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're always right. 00:42:58 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:42:59 Speaker 2: Okay for a direct question. 00:43:01 Speaker 9: Maybe not. Oh, I don't know, you'd have to dig deeper. 00:43:05 Speaker 2: Correct question review. Question one with shyris moose two diameter at breast height three one four thirty odd six springfield five, dental pad six the inner loins or tender loins seven Wisconsin eight forty five Are you sure I'm just doing my mathron to I do four twice again. This number, this numbering thing is really messing me up. 00:43:39 Speaker 6: Uh, you had ten questions, be honest, I didn't. I didn't you know, I made sure to count them. We've done nine questions. I don't thank you. 00:43:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, here's a forum for a forum for twenty eighteen that's not necessarily accurate. That are saying white tails are protected in Utah. So I don't know if that is legit or not. 00:43:59 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, it's not going to change the score in fortune today because you and Bronson had the same answers. So uh, it would just deduct one from each of you guys. Oops, but it would make it a It make it a real, uh real battle for second. I guess if Bronson was down to four, let's bring them back down there we go. Let's go on to question ten. Is there a chance? Nope, no chance for a tiebreaker. Using USDA calculations, order these meats and caloric density from highest to lowest, lean ground beef, skin on, pheasant venison, and catfish filets lean ground beef. I got this information by literally going to their website and just punching in calories and then the name of the meat. 00:45:00 Speaker 9: They had it as venison, not broken out by a species. No, hi's the lowest. 00:45:10 Speaker 2: Yep, which one has the most galleries? 00:45:13 Speaker 3: Down to the least dumb question? Is lean ground beef like relatively lean? The proportion of fat in it is less or zero fat ground beef? 00:45:28 Speaker 2: I think leans like anything like ninety and well they have like one that's called ninety percent lean. 00:45:38 Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't think they can call it lean unless it's a certain percentage. 00:45:44 Speaker 7: But I don't know what that percentage is. 00:45:49 Speaker 1: Either word. 00:45:57 Speaker 8: Yeah, you're gonna change it. 00:46:02 Speaker 5: It's different than my answer. 00:46:03 Speaker 4: I'll tell you that. 00:46:04 Speaker 2: The question is using USDA calculations, order these meats and caloric density from highest to lowest lean ground beef skin on pheasant, venison and catfish filet. 00:46:16 Speaker 6: Looks like the USDA defines lean as being at at least ninety. 00:46:21 Speaker 8: Com I'm just trying to hit that Jennifer index. 00:46:28 Speaker 5: Are you I'm at three? Oh answers different than yours. 00:46:33 Speaker 1: I really disagree. 00:46:34 Speaker 8: Well, I don't think I disagree. I mean, I'm just going by personal preference here. 00:46:41 Speaker 2: Maybe everybody have an answer. 00:46:50 Speaker 5: Where did these catfish come from? 00:46:53 Speaker 2: I got a buddy boys, that's a valid question. 00:46:56 Speaker 1: I mean, or they farm raised Seth's pond. 00:47:00 Speaker 2: It is a valid question. Yeah. Again, this is what the US d A there said for a pound of catfish filets. 00:47:10 Speaker 3: If they're Mississippi Delta farm raised aquaculture, there will be a lot of fat. 00:47:18 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:47:18 Speaker 2: But I feel like those flatheads that we caught on the Missouri they had a lot of fat too. 00:47:23 Speaker 1: I was operating as though this was a channel catfish. Oh yeah, lots of things. 00:47:28 Speaker 9: There's a lot of non specificity in these I was thinking of, you. 00:47:33 Speaker 1: Were okay, I was picturing a channel. 00:47:37 Speaker 2: That's what they're going on. You guys already to reveal your answers, please, Bronson says, ground beef, peasant, catfish, venison, Sam beef, pheasant, venison, catfish, spencer beef, venison, pheasant, catfish, corey pheasant, venison, catfish, beef, seth, catfish, beef, venison, pheasant, brodie pheasant, catfish, lean, ground beef, venison. Okay, I think one person got it, one person right, and I think that that's bronzing. No, it was Sam, Oh Sam? What was it? 00:48:12 Speaker 4: Oh? 00:48:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, venison is last oh man, No, no, no, no, brilliant, got it? I was okay, be honest. 00:48:20 Speaker 6: The formatting of this document is a nightmare. 00:48:21 Speaker 2: Hey, look who it is? 00:48:22 Speaker 1: Hey, hey Stephen Ranela ask him Steve, of those has the most calories? 00:48:28 Speaker 2: You don't know? And for a pound slice of pizza, who has the most calories? Who has the least? 00:48:38 Speaker 9: Why don't you read the answer? And whoever has it will raise their head. 00:48:44 Speaker 2: The correct order is lean ground beef, skin on pheasant, catfish, venison. 00:48:51 Speaker 6: Okay, so Bronson did get that one? Yes, okay. 00:48:54 Speaker 2: For pound of meat, lean ground beef has twelve hundred and fifty calories, skin on pheasant has six hundred and seventy two, catfish flats have six hundred and fifty three, and venison has a mere five hundred and forty four galleries, Which is why we're always adding fat to our ground meat and cooking our steaks and butter. So that makes Spencer our winner. Spencer wins every time I host. I don't know how that happens. 00:49:25 Speaker 1: Well, you guess hosts the most. That makes a difference. We must just share the same brain, Yanni. 00:49:30 Speaker 2: I guess so, I guess. So he's seen all these questions before access to documents, and he interviewed the guy. 00:49:38 Speaker 1: Guy. 00:49:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you said, you said you went through the pool of questions that, Spencer. 00:49:42 Speaker 1: That's a sheet that has every question from the board. 00:49:45 Speaker 2: Game that's ever been used. Oh and if I if my question comes up there, I can't use it. Oh for that reason, Yeah, I mean come on, Okay, thank you all for playing. Remember again, it's White Sail Week. Go check out the great sales, great stuff we have at meter dot com, FirstLight dot com. Anything else to add, Spencer? After your great I don't have. 00:50:07 Speaker 1: To buy a yearly membership anymore now, No. 00:50:11 Speaker 2: He's not What do you want? 00:50:13 Speaker 8: What do you want? 00:50:13 Speaker 2: Steve? 00:50:14 Speaker 8: I was curious from a listener perspective, people appreciate your hosting. 00:50:18 Speaker 2: Oh I don't know what to ask, Spencer. 00:50:19 Speaker 1: Yes, we'll find out some variety. 00:50:22 Speaker 2: Read the comment Read the comments. I will. So thank you all for playing and listening along at home. We'll see you next week on Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. Thank you. 00:50:35 Speaker 5: Thanks. 00:50:38 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:50:38 Speaker 1: Spencer from South Dakota. He's the host, using those smooth. 00:50:42 Speaker 3: Mellow tones, he lays them questions down. 00:50:51 Speaker 8: He likes taking those two and three year old bucks 00:50:56 Speaker 2: An avid amateur