00:00:04 Speaker 1: Smell us now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia, the Metater Podcast. Welcome to me Eater Radio Live. It's eleven a m. Mountain time. Phil's giggling again because I missed the exact timing of this intro, but oh well, we'll keep on going. Eleven am Mountain time. That's eight pm for our friends in Latvia. What up, Linda, gasparskuts bars everybody else. It's Thursday, August twenty eighth, and we're live from me Eater headquarters in a fall like Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host, Yannis ptelis joined today by Randall Big, Randy Williams, and Brody of Care Are you in the Henderson's Henderson I was a tongue twister. Like I said. It feels a lot like fall and that has me fired up. The aspens are showing a sprinkling of yellow leaves. The high today is only sixty five degrees. I heard a bugle last night on Tana's archery season opens in nine days and my broadheads are flying. 00:01:20 Speaker 2: Oh true, oh my. 00:01:22 Speaker 1: Today on the show, we'll hear about my and Brody's recent trip to Alaska. An audio project called Hide hunters, our favorite sounds from the outdoors, and a new trail camera. Photo contest Rich Frohning is phoning in to tell us about the hardest moment in CrossFit competition. And finally, we'll chat with me eater guest star Parker Hall about trapping feral pigs in Florida to save sea turtles. Boys. Does it feel like fall to you too? 00:01:55 Speaker 3: It does? But you know, you know summer is coming back. 00:02:00 Speaker 4: I know. 00:02:01 Speaker 1: I checked the weather today after we because this rain was unexpected to me at least, I had not been checking the weather. And then yesterday and today it's all like coolny, great weather. 00:02:11 Speaker 3: For running in I've been enjoying that. 00:02:13 Speaker 1: I haven't done any running. 00:02:15 Speaker 2: I'm just hoping that this puts an end to fire season. 00:02:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't check that this morning. Either. Do you know if any of the fires were extinguished from rain? 00:02:23 Speaker 2: No idea, but thinking hopeful thoughts. 00:02:26 Speaker 1: But are you guys jack too. It's not quite September, but we're almost there. Oh yeah, man, it's like it's here. It's on Monday is. 00:02:35 Speaker 3: Grouse Opener will be out there and that's like the official start. 00:02:41 Speaker 2: I'm not quite there yet. I'm not quite. 00:02:43 Speaker 1: You're not feeling it. 00:02:44 Speaker 2: Well, I'm excited, but I don't feel like it's at the doorstep quite yet. We've got a little travel up ahead of us, and. 00:02:52 Speaker 3: His broadheads aren't flying true like yours. 00:02:54 Speaker 2: Well, my broadheads are still hanging on the rack at a store somewhere because I'm just waiting to burn some powder. 00:03:01 Speaker 1: Uh huh. I know. See, that's the thing you got. If you want to really get fired up at the end of August, you kind of got to be an upland hunter like Brody or an arch tree hunter. Now you mentioned we're doing some traveling, we might as well get this out of the way. Randall and I are going to be in Columbus, Ohio on Saturday. Do you have the exact location? Handy? 00:03:19 Speaker 5: I do not. 00:03:19 Speaker 1: Well, while he's Randall's looking that up. We're doing the tailgate tour again and Randall and I going to be there for the Ohio State in Texas, Yes game on Saturday, hanging out. So if you're in the area, go to the website. I'm sure you can get all the DCE there on where to find us. Randall might have it pulled up there. 00:03:41 Speaker 2: We will be at the Dublin Market at Bridge Park. 00:03:45 Speaker 1: Okay, Dublin Market at Bridge Park. It's gonna be early because the game starts at eleven, so. 00:03:50 Speaker 2: It'll start at noon. I'm sorry, We're gonna start at nine am. 00:03:54 Speaker 1: At nine am kick off, so you've probably roughly got two hours to come and see us. Nine to eleven Saturday morning. Come and hang out, tell me hunt story, take a picture, whatever you want to do. We'd love to see you. 00:04:05 Speaker 3: Does it say where I'm going to be on where ours is? On the twenty seventh TBD on your local. We'll have to come back to that. 00:04:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll revisit that. 00:04:15 Speaker 1: Uh, Brody, we got back. What has it been now? Has it been a week or two? Two too odd time wise? Yeah, we were at fish Shack, Renella's fish Shack on Prince of Wales Island. Randell, you've been there for Bear Hunt, I have, Brody, you've been there a whole bunch with your family. This is the first time I took my family there. My biggest worry going into this one was like how my kids, my girls were going to deal with Steve. 00:04:47 Speaker 2: A little bit. 00:04:48 Speaker 1: But they've been around him enough, they've kind of grown up with him that they kind of know what to expect and they get my I coach them on how to deal with that too, you know, and so that's not too big deal because they've been around him. But No, the Southeast Alaska's sort of constant rain, the constant fifty five degree temperature that's really not warm, not cold, but you know, it's like if you're wet in that those tempts it can it can be uncomfortable. 00:05:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're always wet even when it's not raining totally. 00:05:21 Speaker 1: The living conditions up there, it's not unsanitary or anything, but it's very sparse, well, you know, it's it's it is a shack. 00:05:29 Speaker 2: When I was up there, I couldn't get all of the mink shit off my bed that I was sleeping in. That's the danger of most of the minkshit. But I couldn't get all of it. 00:05:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you were probably the first one there for the season, so you had to deal with all that. Luckily we were there after all that had been taken. 00:05:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, each consecutive group just scrapes off a little more minkshit, and by the time you're the last group like us, no more minkshit. 00:05:51 Speaker 2: Yep. 00:05:52 Speaker 1: But we last group. Man, I would rather be the first group. I've only done that like one, Maybe I would rather be a middle group. Oh, you're right, yeah. 00:06:00 Speaker 2: Uh. 00:06:01 Speaker 1: The reason we're saying that like middle, like there's a there's actually four owners of the fish shack, and so there's a period of probably a span of maybe close to two months roughly, yeah, six weeks, and the first group comes. You got to do the job of opening the place up. But then there's like group two, three, and four who like get to just roll in, do their thing and leave. Now there's work to be done for every group, but the opening and then the shutting the place down is like it takes a day. It took us a day to shut the place down. 00:06:32 Speaker 2: On our pulling motors off boats and oh it's back getting the water lines all cleared out. 00:06:38 Speaker 1: Yeah. But to finish my original thought here, as I was worried about my girls and how they were going to do there. My wife, I know she's gonna be fine, no big deal. Uh, they like excelled exceeded expectations. Not only did they never once uh like even kind of talk about the weather. Like I don't think they talked about the rain, the adults are bitching about the rain, but the kids like, don't bring it up. They're just like whatever, man, we put our slickers on and we're going. And that's my. 00:07:07 Speaker 3: Bigby put them on and just run around wet. 00:07:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, and bro my girls, I'm like, you girls are gonna learn a lesson Brod. He's like I told you, Brody gets after his kids when they're making mistakes like run around without raincoats. But anyways, the kids excelled. They didn't give a shit about the rain. And that water is roughly. 00:07:27 Speaker 3: What in the fifties. 00:07:29 Speaker 1: In the fifties, those kids swim every single day of our trip. The water would come in, the tide would get high, and they would be in the cove just splashing around like they were at the beach in North Carolina. 00:07:40 Speaker 3: Ya couldn't care, Matt rene mad He runs around in shorts and crocs, like, no rain gear. And the kid's impervious to the weather. Yeah, it's like it doesn't affect him. 00:07:54 Speaker 1: My oldest received this prestigious Cock of the Cove award, Stephen Renela. To put this in perspective, we actually have to plan when we're gonna eat dinner. The rest of us without Steve knowing, because if you eat dinner, we were eating dinner kind of late. I felt like a couple of nights, and I was like, man, let's eat a little bit earlier. And yeah, that chef Andy Rajalowski's like, yeah, sure, we can eat it earlier. But and I didn't really get the butt. I guess I wasn't listening what happens the next night we eat earlier, we're done at like seven, there's like ninety minutes maybe two hours of kind of some light left. Well, everybody else wants to like play banana Grams and have another beer. Steven Arnella is like looking out the window and he's like, well. 00:08:40 Speaker 6: We got plenty of time to dig a hole. We're gonna carry some rocks. We're gonna chain one of the big rocks in the hole. They we're gonna cover up the hole and chain it to my new floating dock. And everybody's kind of looking around like he's like, who's with me? 00:08:54 Speaker 1: No one raises a hand. So that's the problem with eating too early. So after that we were really person that when we finished eating, there would not be quite enough time to get another chore done. It could just be a little bit of relaxation and time for better. 00:09:09 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was like we had never done the eating early before. 00:09:15 Speaker 1: You never tried it. 00:09:17 Speaker 3: No, it's always like you eat and go to bed, which like you gotta you get you know, it's a long day, but it doesn't leave any time for you. Just eat, go to bed. 00:09:28 Speaker 1: Okay, I've said this to let you all know that when you're at Reneul's fish shack, and I'd like to know if you had the similar experience. But there's work to be done. There's like uh shack improvement projects that are ongoing. There's just general upkeep of engines and like you name it. And then there's the daily stuff just to keep yourself alive, cooking and eating and cleaning up after yourself and all that stuff. Well, the cock of the cove gets the award when like you're always Johnny on the spot. You're raising your hand when at like six pm, no one else wants to go pull shrimp pots. Steve's like we're going to pull shrimp pots? Who wants to go? You raise your hand or dinner's over. Everybody else is chilling, rubbing their bellies, adjusting their belts. There's a lot of dirty dishes. You get up and start doing the dishes, right, that sort of stuff. Oh, you got to make another run back from the boats to get more bait. I'll go run back to get more bait. Right. Well, my daughter very proud of her. She chipped in and was crushing it, and Steve awarded her Cock of the Cove. 00:10:30 Speaker 2: Well, does that entitle her to any sort of liberties the next time around or diminished? 00:10:37 Speaker 3: No, your slate is clear. 00:10:40 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, pat yourself on the back and move on. 00:10:44 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:10:44 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:10:45 Speaker 3: Hayde, my kid, Hayden was awarded Chief filet Officer. 00:10:48 Speaker 1: Oh that's a prestigious honor. 00:10:51 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was after it this. 00:10:53 Speaker 1: Yeah, Randon, when you were there, did you feel like you worked your ass off? 00:10:58 Speaker 2: Not really. 00:10:59 Speaker 7: Uh. 00:11:00 Speaker 2: We didn't do a ton of projects because we were filming and so the focus was on like getting stuff done. 00:11:09 Speaker 1: It's interesting because usually even when I've been up there in the past filming, Steve will be like, Okay, we did eight hours of film, and now let's do four hours of may La. 00:11:17 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:11:17 Speaker 2: Well, we were like we were a little under the gun until I killed my bear and then it was like because we had we had two bear tags to fill. And so the first two, you know, we flew in, couldn't hunt, and we had a day where we didn't Steve and I chased a couple didn't get an opportunity. Then we had a day where it just rained all night and all day and bears didn't come out. Steve and I sat in the rain. So at that point there was a little bit of anxiety. But when I was up there, I I just sort of decided that I was going to fill the generator, which brought me back to my days working in Alaska, just filling fuel cans and pouring them and things, and that was I felt like that was a solid contribution. 00:12:07 Speaker 1: Oh, you got to keep the Jenny running. 00:12:08 Speaker 3: Nothing worse when Yeah, we had narrator problems this year. Oh my gosh, we had all kinds of mechanical problems. Anything else? Do you want to mention about our great trip? 00:12:19 Speaker 8: No? 00:12:19 Speaker 3: I mean Seth and I kind of talked fishing up there last was it last week? 00:12:24 Speaker 1: So he covered off on this, covered off on how Seth kept taking out Renel's kids and his Renel's kids would catch giants. 00:12:33 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I let people know if you want to get a big halbit, you get in cessed boat. 00:12:37 Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, it's pretty funny. Did you let people know that Steve missed the gaff shot or not the gaf shot the harpoon shot on your wife's big fish. 00:12:48 Speaker 3: I can't remember if we talked about that. I think we may have, and he didn't miss it, the helbit dodged the harpoon. 00:12:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, according to I don't think he's come forward with his story yet. He should discuss it on on a future Mediator podcast episode. But I once was just ridden to hell. I was there about a why am I missing that word? A harpoon throat? I had never done it. I didn't realize. I thought it was kind of like a haia, you know, you just like know it. No, you gotta put it in there, and you gotta let him eat, you know. 00:13:24 Speaker 2: I got to harpoon the big one that Steve caught, and it was one of my favorite things ever done in my life because I'm a big moby dick guy. 00:13:32 Speaker 8: Hmmm. 00:13:33 Speaker 2: And also when I was guiding up there, like netting a big king is like a pretty intense situation, you know, like because the one end of the fish is going to be hanging out of the net and if it's the if it's not the ass end, that thing's going to swim away. So like brought me back again to the pressure of getting that fish in the boat. But a harpoon. Oh, it's just something very romantic about it. 00:13:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got it, nailed. 00:14:00 Speaker 2: It, but the film crew was beachcombing at the time, so it didn't make it into the episode. My crowning achievement. Yeah, I know, man, but they found something cool on the beach. I think I don't know what. 00:14:12 Speaker 1: They say, Randall, if it didn't happen on camera, it didn't happen. Yes, Carrie's fish somehow got wrapped up in the anchor line. Well, I mean it's like they kind of got that freed up. She was but she wasn't even in the boat with Steve. No, everything was cool, Oh it was everything was cool. The halbit was coming up, here comes Steve jumps in their boat and that's when chaos ensued. You're kidding. 00:14:41 Speaker 4: He was always the common denominator. 00:14:44 Speaker 2: That's great. 00:14:45 Speaker 1: Why did he feel like he needed to jump in the boat. 00:14:47 Speaker 3: Because he really wanted to carry to get that thing. It wasn't like you're doing it I don't think it was like, oh, you guys are doing something wrong. He wanted her to get sure sure, and he wanted it too much. 00:14:57 Speaker 1: And it'll help if I'm in the boat with you. 00:15:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, look man, like it's fun to like point the finger, but shit goes wrong with those big ones. 00:15:07 Speaker 1: All extremely fun. Yeah. No, we lost more big ones that week than we then we landed percent, especially when you got like kids like that are around ten years old plus or minus whatever a couple three years, and like you're kind of helping hold Rod real Rod, and you're like, I can feel the the you know, levity is a situation. 00:15:30 Speaker 2: On that run, the last fish you want to lose. 00:15:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're just like, Maddie, do the best you can, buddy. Speaking of hides, bear hides, you got one when you're up there, But uh, you have a project about some hides you're working on. 00:15:47 Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, The next The next edition of Meat Eater's American History is available for pre order right now wherever you get your audio books. This is volume three Mediator's American History, The Hide Hunters eight teen sixty five to eighteen eighty three, where we dive into the industrial scale slaughter of the American Buffalo, as Steve likes to say, in the period following the Civil War. It will be released officially on October fourteenth, So if you pre order it now, it'll just be on your phone on October fourteenth, and you can give it a listen on your drive to hunting camp. 00:16:23 Speaker 1: Or can you give me a little snippet of, like one of your favorite stories from this. 00:16:29 Speaker 2: Wo boy favorite stories. 00:16:31 Speaker 1: Well, maybe a factoid that you found interesting. 00:16:35 Speaker 2: So one of the more interesting things is there were several stories about skunks. One was a guy named Skunk Johnson, and these guys would big build what they called dugout shelters, so they dig into the side of a stream bank. And he was famous for having a really big, elaborate one. And at one point he was surrounded by a group of I believe comanches and he just was sort of stuck in there. He holed up like it was a siege and he survived only by eating skunks. 00:17:07 Speaker 1: Wow. 00:17:08 Speaker 2: And then there was another guy who was bitten by a rabid skunk. They're like two or three guys bitten by rabid skunks, one of which he crawled under a watering station along the railroad tracks like those big towers, you know, I guess to get out of the sun, and he just died. He never left that place. He crawled under it and died. And then another guy was bitten by a bitten by a rabid skunk, and when he felt one of the bouts of hydrophobia coming on, he took some of the stryc nine that they used to poison the hides for scavengers, and he went out back and he swallowed a slug of strych nine and killed himself. 00:17:49 Speaker 3: That's interesting because I almost feel like you got to try to get bit by a rabid skunk. 00:17:53 Speaker 2: I mean, it makes you wonder how many there were out there. Yeah, you know, fascinating stuff. And then there's another guy that they think he got bit by a rabbit skunk, but they don't know the skunk either scratched him or bit him while he was sleeping. It got on his face. 00:18:07 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're sleeping in a dugout cave in a stream bank along a stream, I mean, all those critters run those streams and you're in there asleep, and they just come in and share whatever, squat at it. 00:18:20 Speaker 2: And I think that's my I think that's one of my more fascinating discoveries from the research is just four stories about skunks. 00:18:29 Speaker 3: The thing I think is cool about is like debunking the myth that these guys were like just blood thirsty, like they're somehow doing it out of malice and when actually it was like, yeah, it was like a good job to have at the time. 00:18:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, we get into that. I mean that in the larger context is like after the Civil War, there's just a lot of sort of restless veterans and displaced people, especially if their hometown had been destroyed in the South or whatever else, Like they come back from war and life doesn't go back to normal for them, so they head out west. And also, like the eighteen seventies, there a time of a lot of economic upheaval and business is failing and bankruptcies and stuff like that. So yeah, like there's a resource that's free for the taking, and it's understandable that these guys would go out there and try to make a living, especially if they're kind of predisposed to be like adventure seekers. 00:19:22 Speaker 1: So I'm going to save listening to it. My daughter and I are road trip into Wisconsin for the rifle season. This year, and I'm going to save it for. 00:19:31 Speaker 4: That perfect It'll get you through. 00:19:33 Speaker 1: I'm going to make her listen. 00:19:35 Speaker 2: To It'll get you through. I think six and a half hours of your drive something like that. So well that's like a third Yeah, maybe get four hundred miles out of it, that'd be good, totally. 00:19:48 Speaker 1: Let's see what else we got in our little chit chat section here shooting with the families. Roddy and I went out and did a little plinking, set up some gongs. I need more stands for the go so we can have more distances yep, and not have the same like two gongs on one frame. 00:20:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, get them dial in weird distances like you know, in between distances. Yeah, we were just getting started. We didn't get quite as far along with the competition thing you're just getting I had a brand new rifle that had never been shot. 00:20:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, the guys should let me know. I'm just on the other side of the mountain. 00:20:25 Speaker 1: I know. Well, I mean I get I come back from doing one of these, and then there's always like, oh, I should have called Randall. I should have called you know, Mike, because he's got a kid that also wants to shoot but I will say, like we had just we were at the max amount of like how many guns can be going out at once. It's different if it's all adults. 00:20:44 Speaker 3: You're trying to watch kids that are shooting, they can get hectically. 00:20:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't need to shoot. I can just help. We can just be there to hear the bang. 00:20:51 Speaker 1: Oh okay, well, then definitely we could use it. 00:20:54 Speaker 3: Luckily, we had some quiet bangs going on, at least until Johannis broke out the rifle with the brake on it. 00:21:00 Speaker 1: Man, it's like, yeah, the brakes are tough these days, but when you go to Canada, you gotta you gotta shoot break. I will say, It's funny how I told my girls going into it. I'm like, I would like you guys to try to shoot about a box or the whole box, you know, twenty rounds apiece, however you want to do it. Well, they get through like ten, they've hit every gong, and they're kind of like, eh, you know, we've shot enough. I'm like, no, you haven't. You know, we might get to do this one maybe two times. But before we go on the youth hunt, like we need to shoot a bunch and I'm like, okay, let's do a little competition. You got to hit two hundred, three hundred, four hundred and then come it and then and then bring it back and we're gonna time you you know, and every miss counts for fifteen seconds or whatever. And as soon as that was down, all of a sudden, everybody's like, all right, let me go, let me go, let me go at it, let me go at it. And then they each got another whatever that was six shots, five shots, yeah, quickly, And uh, it's really good because that little bit of stress of that competition tition, that is what it's going to feel like when there's a buck and you have limited amount of time and there's all of a sudden there's stress. Stress in the situation, self induced usually when you're out hunting, right, but like, there is that stress, but it's you can you can mimic that by doing a little bit of a competition. I think it's really good for any shooter. You know, kids get a lot out of it, but that's great for any shooter. Yeah, I got other stuff I'd love to tell you guys about. All Right, one last thing, I promise Phil Philip's already like this is gonna be the longest episcon checking on the longest episode. 00:22:37 Speaker 4: Jesus the chat just complaining that Giannis won't shut the hell up. No, they are, everyone's loving it. I'm just I'm just joshing. 00:22:44 Speaker 1: All right, this is great. Uh. Sunday morning, we're having breakfast, kind of a late late brunchy breakfast the family, and someone looks over and it's like, holy, look at Vegas his leg and on his like lower Uh. I forget which which front leg is on. I think it's his left, but you know, maybe six or eight inches above his paw, big old gash like two inches long, and it's kind of spread open, like a solid inch maybe more. I'm like, yee, you know, like that looks bad. I wondering, like, who's gonna Who's gonna be the one that takes him to the vet. 00:23:18 Speaker 3: And just for like people are listening, you kind of let him roam around and do his own thing. 00:23:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't have a fence. We don't have a fence yard. He wears his GPS callar every single day of his life and then that way when he's usually he's not much of a roamer until it gets h evening time and it cools off and then all of a sudden he starts to roam. 00:23:39 Speaker 2: I'm the same way. 00:23:43 Speaker 1: And uh anyway, so it probably happened the evening before no one noticed it, and then the next morning like, hey, look at that. Well, all of a sudden, everybody else has somewhere to beat. So I'm left with Mingus and his open wound, and they're like, take care of it, and I forget. I had to go. I'm where too, so I didn't have that much time. But I take a picture send it to my buddy Jake. I'm like, what would you do right now? He's like, that looks pretty fresh. I think you can just staple it up. I'm like, okay, I have bought the staple gun already. I'm prepared, sitting in my truck in case we have a mountain lion, you know, mishap. 00:24:19 Speaker 2: And it's like the first thing you need to buy when you're a houndsman. Yeah, a GPS collar and a staple gun. 00:24:25 Speaker 1: Totally, and so I've got that. I watch a couple of YouTube videos irrigate it with, you know, some warmed hot sailing solution. Irrigate the hell out of it. Maybe scrub it a little bit and uh, Stapler shut and you're on your way. And so I did that. I got to the oh. I later we had to meet at a volleyball game for my oldest and I'm like showing them pictures and telling them my story. They were incredulous. They were like, you didn't do that. You went to the vat. I'm like, no, no, no, I like, watch the YouTube video on Staple of my dog up. It wasn't that hard. And they're looking at it and they're like, well, it looks pretty good, dad, you know. I'm like, well, like, it wasn't that hard. But they're very much like, nice, did you really do this? And then not Later though, I caught a lot of scrutiny about like pussing a lot. Maybe you look swollen? Are you sure you did it right? Anyways, I felt like I should be a vet. 00:25:25 Speaker 2: Sure that's great. 00:25:26 Speaker 1: After doing that, I'm like, I'm. 00:25:28 Speaker 3: Super glueded dog. 00:25:29 Speaker 1: But not. 00:25:30 Speaker 3: But staplelan like did he squirm or yelp? 00:25:33 Speaker 1: He gave me like a false uh when I irrigated, but the staples he barely flinched. Yeah, And I didn't unesssize him. 00:25:45 Speaker 3: Was it like like barbed wire kind of cutter, That's what I'm thinking, you know, especially in that spot. 00:25:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's plenty of barb wire on our property, you know. So all right, thank you all for Uh, that's the folks coming. We're halfway through. We're gonna interview Rich Throning now. In this interview, this first one is brought to you by none other than Mountain Ops. Whether you're training for the mountain or just trying to feel your best every single day, Mountain Ops has your back. Speaking of performance, we're joined today by one of the most accomplished athletes in the world of fitness, four time CrossFit Games champion and the man often called the fittest on Earth. You just thought that was me, but no, we're talking about Rich Frowning and he's here bringing that all together in a brand new podcast called In Pursuit, where he's exploring how the grit of competition and the challenges of the wild connect to something deeper in all of us. Rich, welcome to meet Eater Radio Live. How are you? 00:27:00 Speaker 8: What's up? Boys? 00:27:01 Speaker 2: How we doing excellent? 00:27:02 Speaker 1: We're doing great? Is it feeling Rich? You're down in Nashville? 00:27:05 Speaker 9: Correct, a little bit east uh in Cookfield. But man, it's it's it feels like fall here. Man, it's getting me fired up. Mornings are Chris you know, hot during the day, but it cools off pretty good at the evening. 00:27:17 Speaker 8: So man, we just had Velvet Hunt this week and I didn't actually get to go out. 00:27:19 Speaker 9: I was in Texas, but seeing the pictures, man, it's getting me fired up. 00:27:23 Speaker 1: Oh man, I love to hear it. I was thought, you're gonna tell me it's just been still hot as balls and it's still summertime, but it sounds if you made it. 00:27:29 Speaker 9: Drop this week, and man, it's just your walk outside expecting to just get knocked down by a wall of humidity and there's none. It's it feels feels like fall. 00:27:38 Speaker 1: Wonder lovely Rich, can you give our listeners a quick behind the scenes peak and what inspired you to do the in Pursuit podcast? Like, what's going on with this podcast? 00:27:53 Speaker 5: Yeah? 00:27:53 Speaker 9: Man, it's just a good time and it's honestly, it's just me nerding out and listening to some specialists in different areas. Whether it you know, we had Joel Turner that episode just launched today. We had Kip Folks, who runs a he's gonna outfit her up in Alaska. 00:28:08 Speaker 8: For Grizzly Moose and all that. 00:28:10 Speaker 9: And then Joel we've had on just talking about shot iq stuff and the high stress stuff you're talking about with shooting rifles we do. He does a lot with bows. So it's just cool to talk to those guys and pick their brains. We had a NFL guy that Zach Steeler, that just actually signed a forty five million dollar contract a couple of days after he left here, so you know, we asked him for a percentage of that since we probably helped with that. But man, it's just it's my own, I guess pursuit for knowledge for lack of better terms of just getting exposed to different guys and what they're doing and in the hunting and then also just in in sport and how we can relate that to the outdoors. 00:28:49 Speaker 1: On that note, like there's just reading through sort of the ideas behind in pursuit. There's like the grit of mountain hunting and then how that aligns with you know, fishy performance and the disciplines of CrossFit, Like how do you how do you see those two? Like where's that intersection for you? Man? 00:29:08 Speaker 9: I think it's just being a well rounded ath. I mean, you just finished one hundred mile Old race, what couple of weeks ago. 00:29:14 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a month now, but still feel it best. 00:29:17 Speaker 8: Yeah, I bet you're still feeling it. 00:29:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. 00:29:19 Speaker 9: It's so with crossbit obviously, the idea is, you know, without getting too nerdy in it, you know, you don't want to be the strongest guy in the room. You don't want to be the guy that has the most power, But you also don't want to be the you know, long, slow guy. You want to kind of be a mix or have have some ability at each of those spots. 00:29:40 Speaker 8: And so yeah, the idea is, like, man, we just want to be. 00:29:43 Speaker 9: As prepared for the mountains, preferably, you know, that's where my heart is. We got a bunch of guys here that are Eastern hunters, and I've in the last little bit started doing some white tail, but my heart's still out west as much as uh, you know, I'm stuck. 00:29:56 Speaker 8: Here in Tennessee. 00:29:57 Speaker 9: But you know, we're going on two l hunts and the next couple of weeks archery, and so just being prepared for that me personally, but also taking that and just helping people that want to go out and be able to go after something. 00:30:14 Speaker 1: What tell me I was thinking about this? I had some during that one hundred mile race. There are some real low points. Oh yeah, I could probably I could point to a couple of moments that were like what I would describe is the hardest, And we'll get to that. I'm actually gonna come down and visit rich and we're gonna talk about this business. But uh, what in all of your career of competing and CrossFit, is there a moment that stands out to you where you're like, oh, during this competition and this moment, I struggled and had to get through this low point to to make it to the other side. 00:30:49 Speaker 8: Man, I probably had too many to list. 00:30:51 Speaker 9: Probably the most infamous one was my first CrossFit Games as an individual. I you know, the final event I was leading going into the final and a rope climb is the There was like a three part event and the final part was a rope climb with some burpees in there, And really didn't think anything about it until I started getting to the rope and having done two workouts before that, just couldn't get up the rope. 00:31:13 Speaker 8: A lot of guys are using their feet. 00:31:15 Speaker 9: When I was a kid, my dad told me not to use my feet because that's for you know, use whatever acronym you want to use, or whatever do you want to use their I didn't know if it's PG or PG thirteen show, and so I just never used my feet. And so all these guys are going up and down the rope. Well, I got up in a couple times and fell pretty good. I think it was about twenty feet. There's if you type in rich Frohning falls off rope on YouTube, you're welcome. But man, yeah, you just I ended up losing the Cross of the Games by three points, which is three places throughout the whole weekend. 00:31:44 Speaker 8: And man, I was just in a bad spot. 00:31:46 Speaker 9: And so you know, there's different things that you can look back on, and man, I just I hate losing. 00:31:51 Speaker 8: I hate being that guy that It's just I. 00:31:54 Speaker 9: Was born into a family of thirty two first cousins, twenty five of us are boys. My entire life has been a petition and so I hate losing, I hate failure, I hate all that. 00:32:04 Speaker 8: So man, it just used it as a motivator. 00:32:06 Speaker 9: In the next couple of years, I was like man, I don't want to have that shame and you know, huge in my faith, and so that was a that was a big kind of a eye opener to that of like, man, just do it for something else, do it for something bigger than just yourself. 00:32:20 Speaker 1: Awesome, it sounds like quite the fall. I'm definitely youtubing that I ain't random yeah pulled up. 00:32:26 Speaker 2: I don't know if the sounds on my computer, so I don't want to fire it up right now, but it's lined up all. 00:32:30 Speaker 8: Right, always ready. 00:32:32 Speaker 1: Rich Richie mentioned Joel Turner, kip uh uh me who else you got that's uh that's coming on to talk on in pursuit that you're excited about. Man, we had. 00:32:44 Speaker 8: Andy Gallpin and doctor Andy Gallpin. 00:32:46 Speaker 7: He's a. 00:32:48 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:32:48 Speaker 9: Man, that was a cool meat. You know, being a nerd, being a fitness nerd. Uh, this is my background, is my degree in so being able to like nerd out on. 00:32:56 Speaker 8: That type of stuff was a ton of fun. 00:32:58 Speaker 9: I've got another guy, Todd Anderson, which is he's become a friend of mine. 00:33:02 Speaker 8: He's really into sleep. 00:33:03 Speaker 9: That'll be a ton of fun of like you know what we think just some minor changes you can make to improve performance, because I think one of the biggest things in recovery is sleep. We've got a couple of new maybe some nutrition has lined up, and athletic therapists or an athletic trainer. 00:33:19 Speaker 8: So just like you know, we all see the. 00:33:21 Speaker 9: Like CrossFit style stuff or the ultra and durant stuff, but you know, the taking care of your body when you're not in the gym or not, you know, training for something even outdoors. 00:33:32 Speaker 1: I can tell you that was my favorite part about running one hundred miles was the two weeks of recovery and taking that very seriously, which basically means you just sleep your ass off, sleep lot of naps. Is this guy you're gonna talk to, is he a nap proponent, because I've been hearing that some people. 00:33:49 Speaker 8: We didn't really we haven't gotten into it yet. He's coming on in the. 00:33:52 Speaker 9: Next couple of weeks. Man, I can't nap. I just my brain doesn't shut off. 00:33:57 Speaker 1: During the day. 00:33:57 Speaker 8: As bad as that sounds like, once I'm up, I'm up. And so we'll see. 00:34:03 Speaker 2: Man. 00:34:03 Speaker 8: Now I'll ask him about naps. I'll make sure to put that one on there. When we're on there, I'll say johnis wants to know about naps. 00:34:08 Speaker 1: Oh, definitely, yeah, because I listened to one. I think it was actually on Gallup and Show. He was talking to sleep researcher from the Army, and a couple of big takeaways was one, Yeah, naps are great, don't go over twenty minutes. And then Lebron James takes three to four a day. 00:34:23 Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say. Napping is huge in the NBA, especially with late tip offs. 00:34:28 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, that would do it. So, yeah, you gotta control those cortisol fluctuations. 00:34:33 Speaker 1: So and I mean, you want to talk about a crossover for ELK Cunting. If I don't get my midday nap in on ELK Hunt, I am just I'm going to be going. 00:34:42 Speaker 2: Down hill a little reset. 00:34:44 Speaker 1: I gotta get that little midday napping, all right, man. I'll look forward to hearing some episodes. Where can we find in pursuit. 00:34:53 Speaker 9: The mediat podcast network, it's I think today we just dropped the one with we Kip was two we weeks ago and this today was Joel Turner. 00:35:02 Speaker 8: So those will be on there on I guess the channel that this. 00:35:06 Speaker 1: Is on, so perfect we'll check them out there well, thanks for cod joining us taking time away from your busy day. And yeah, I look forward to hanging out in Nashville here and I can get down there to talk running. 00:35:17 Speaker 8: Come on, boys, appreciate it all right? 00:35:19 Speaker 1: Thanks? Rich? 00:35:20 Speaker 2: See it? 00:35:23 Speaker 1: Okay? That was Rich frowning the In Pursuit podcast. I haven't listened yet, but I need to, especially if he's gonna talk start talking about sleep. Man, I'm into staying up on my sleep. 00:35:34 Speaker 2: Nothing like talking about sleep. 00:35:36 Speaker 1: I'm serious. 00:35:37 Speaker 2: I know, I know, I'm serious, but it's also sort of funny. 00:35:40 Speaker 1: It is it is, but people like you just said, people don't take it seriously enough. Man, you're not performing at like. 00:35:48 Speaker 2: I can't even sleep in the night time. 00:35:49 Speaker 3: But yeah, oh I take my sleep very seriously. 00:35:53 Speaker 1: Well, everybody does. But I feel for you because I know a lot of not a lot, but I know quite a few people in my life that don't have. Sorry, guests to have a hard time. 00:36:02 Speaker 2: In bed, well, in bed for hours just staring at the walls. Get up, walk around. 00:36:08 Speaker 1: Go read a book, take a cold shower, read. 00:36:11 Speaker 2: Until my eyes closed on the page, and then do that three more times and then I'm probably ready. Okay, working through the right stuff right now, book about airplanes and uh space travel about the astronauts. Actually right as in w R as in r I t h r r r I t h l r I g H try sleep yeah, Chuck Yeager. 00:36:34 Speaker 1: All right, real quick, this won't take five minutes. Moultree Mobile Trailcam. I say that, guys because in my little script here it says roughly how long these little bits. 00:36:44 Speaker 2: It's good. We can make up some time here. 00:36:46 Speaker 1: Moby Moultree Mobile Trailcam Photo Contest Round three. Okay, it's called titled Big Bull Elk. You can go to how to enter your photographs. You go to there can be article I think we're dropping it today on Mediatter website and you can submit your Big Bull Elk Trail Camp photos. We'll pick the top four photos to showcase during next week's show and then have the chat. So if you come and listen next week live, you're gonna get to actually pick the winner. The chat will do it. 00:37:20 Speaker 2: Prizes are tell them what they're gonna win you, honess. 00:37:22 Speaker 1: Here you go two Edge two first light Spectr Camo addition Moultari cameras with ten watt solar power pack bundles I can't say enough about those solar pack bundles. Man, it makes them completely hands off. The cameras are hands off. Now if they could now just make a function where the solar panel usually kind of well, the one that's attached comes out of the top. A lot of them have separate solar panels that you just attach the cord, which actually like better because that way you can have the solar panel facing south camera facing north. But what they need now is another thing where a set of like big clippers comes out of the bottom. Because what happens to me is I set them up in the spring, nothing's growing, and then right about now, all of a sudden, it's like this in front of my cameras. And most you just needs to have a little thing that comes out and just and can reach out about three feet and. 00:38:14 Speaker 3: If the dowse the stuff around the camera with some herbicide. 00:38:19 Speaker 1: Listen that has thought that thought has crossed my mind, All right. 00:38:23 Speaker 2: Well then I get a drone that'll just hang them for you. Be set. 00:38:28 Speaker 1: There's three prizes. It doesn't say if there's like a number one, number two, number three prize. They're all good prizes. Prize number two, two hundred and fifty dollars gift card to the Meat Eater store, a two hundred and fifty dollars gift card to First Lights, my goodness, and prize four. I'm sorry, there's four prizes. A case knives, Brent Reeves signature mini trapper knife. 00:38:50 Speaker 3: Yeah it donet the winner. 00:38:51 Speaker 2: Just get all that stuff that seems excessive. 00:38:55 Speaker 3: Oh maybe maybe, Phil, Have we just been picking one winner for those, haven't we? 00:39:00 Speaker 1: Damn? 00:39:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, one winner gets everything? 00:39:03 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 00:39:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I gotta set up some trail cameras. 00:39:08 Speaker 1: Get a quick, awesome bull elk picture. My guess if if I could just like look into the future a little bit, h it's gonna be something with a bull elk in a wallow. 00:39:20 Speaker 3: That's a typical spot for a trail cam. 00:39:23 Speaker 1: Yep. And you get some water splashing, maybe a bowl on his back pissing all over himself. 00:39:30 Speaker 3: You could put it on a telephone pole outside man with mammoth hot springs too. 00:39:34 Speaker 5: And you do all right? 00:39:35 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't know if the park's gonna let you put a camera. 00:39:38 Speaker 2: Just keep it quiet. 00:39:40 Speaker 1: Okay. Now we're on to uh answering a few questions from the chat Phil, What do we got to that? 00:39:45 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:39:45 Speaker 4: And Jannis already said so, just to reiterate, the article is not up yet, but it will be up later today. Okay, So yeah, keep your If you want to check back this evening on the Mediator dot com, it should be pretty obvious. Submit you're it's a multi trail cam. 00:39:56 Speaker 1: Foot you know what is up right now? Though, Phil is my most recent on the Hunt episode. Right went to Wyoming to shoot a prong horn. Check that out trophy prong horn trophy. I was going for a trophy. I learned a lot about judging trophy prong horn on this trip. 00:40:13 Speaker 4: You guys want to watch Rich fall off of a rope? 00:40:15 Speaker 1: Yes? 00:40:15 Speaker 2: Please? 00:40:15 Speaker 4: Okay I felt bad doing it when he was on the line. 00:40:19 Speaker 1: But here's Rich going up. He's only using his arms. 00:40:22 Speaker 3: Oh dang, Rich, that's a that could have been a broken tailbad there. And that Spartan race me and Hayden did. We watched a guy you gotta swing from ring to ring, you know, yeah, and a big muscular guy like Rich made the big long swing but didn't hold on, landed a flat on his back and broke his collar bone like we heard it snap? 00:40:47 Speaker 1: How did you do on those rings? 00:40:49 Speaker 3: I did alright, because I'm like skinny and spry. 00:40:53 Speaker 1: Oh wait, till right, right, right right? Yeah, dang, that looks rough and he's still took third place. 00:41:00 Speaker 2: Have you ever broken your tailbone? 00:41:02 Speaker 1: No, it's not fun. I mean I've had it. Would you do it? Have you done it? 00:41:06 Speaker 5: Yeah? 00:41:07 Speaker 2: There a story playing basketball post the guy up he thought it'd be funny to just wap with a knee. 00:41:13 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh that did it? 00:41:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, no kidding, Well it was awful, awful your. 00:41:19 Speaker 3: Cosicks, Randall, can't take those hard fouls. 00:41:23 Speaker 2: Nope. 00:41:24 Speaker 1: I like the fact that you're a you're a b ball player. I'm gonna get my hoop down here from my house. 00:41:31 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and then in the winter time we should set up in my barn and Max. 00:41:34 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a good idea. I know that we have Max, you and uh Nick Tapia. All right, let's get a question in Phil. 00:41:46 Speaker 4: Sure, it's good a question and uh let's see here, Trey Woods is asking for some cruise score predictions for the tailgate Tour, something like college Game Day. Randall, you got any predictions predictions you want to you want to share, at least for the game you're going to. 00:42:02 Speaker 2: I guess what I'm thinking is I just don't want them to lose at home first game of the season. It's gonna be really coming as defending national champions. I mean, there's just there's a lot of pressure in arch Manning. I mean, I don't know. I just it's gonna be a bad scene if they lose. So I'm thinking positive thoughts, but as you can tell, I'm also thinking negative thoughts. 00:42:27 Speaker 1: So well. They still have that literal highlight reel of a wide Jeremiah Smith. Yeah, that guy is incredible Jeremiah Smith. 00:42:36 Speaker 2: For Heisman. 00:42:37 Speaker 4: That was actually one of the questions here, Randall, was your predictions for Heisman this year? 00:42:41 Speaker 2: You want to know some Heisman trivia? 00:42:44 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:42:44 Speaker 2: The figure on the statue, uh huh. That's Jay Berwanger. It's a quarterback at the University of Chicago back when we were at Powerhouse. 00:42:54 Speaker 3: Mhmm. Interesting. 00:42:56 Speaker 1: I like that, Randall. You're full of stuff like that. Yeah. 00:42:58 Speaker 4: Another one Phil that was from Trey John asks Jannis, have you seen anyone doing a one hundred k barefoot? 00:43:05 Speaker 1: Nope, I haven't. 00:43:07 Speaker 4: Is that a thing that happens? 00:43:09 Speaker 1: I think maybe a little bit there's there's some of that barefoot or like super minimalist shoe stuff going on. The thing you see sometimes there's these running sandals that they are they're very minimalists. I mean, I mean the soul is flat and it's like a quarter inch and then there's just a couple straps going over the foot to hold the soul underneath you. That's the closest I've seen to anybody doing one of these barefoot, and I don't know if you if you train in it, they probably finish. 00:43:45 Speaker 2: Sorry I misspoke. Jay Burwanger with a halfback. 00:43:48 Speaker 4: Uh hm, I'm disappointed. Nathan asks crew, what are some planed slash traditions that you have on Labor Day weekend? If you have any. Do you guys have any sort of go to activities or stuff to do with the. 00:44:01 Speaker 3: Family, camping, fishing and or hunting. 00:44:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, camping. It's a great camping weekend, it is. It is just send off to the summer before. 00:44:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna do a little barbecue with the neighbors. Catch up. We haven't seen him in a little while. My oldest daughter just made Pat on her back again twice in one episode. She made the Bosman high school freshman volleyball team, the A team, and I've now realized that it's a fall sport and it's going to affect our fall activities. 00:44:38 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, my son's figuring that out with the cross country. 00:44:42 Speaker 9: Yeah. 00:44:43 Speaker 1: Luckily for you season, they don't. It's not gonna affect. 00:44:47 Speaker 3: It's not We're good for Antelope opener and U season. 00:44:50 Speaker 1: All right, all right, and those are the two big ones for us right now. Do you want to do another one? Phil? 00:44:55 Speaker 8: Yeah? 00:44:55 Speaker 4: I don't know how much has been announced or how much we can say, but az Or King asks, when is the Mediator crew going to do live podcast tours again? 00:45:04 Speaker 2: I don't think we can say. Okay, I would say just that right, Just keep your eyes I don't want to. 00:45:09 Speaker 4: Do it open. I don't want to do I'm not doing anything. 00:45:11 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna just stay posted. 00:45:13 Speaker 4: It'll hang on, keep your eyes open. 00:45:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not gonna be yeah. 00:45:17 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know about like the I. 00:45:19 Speaker 3: Don't even think you should have clicked on this question the optimy and stay posted. 00:45:24 Speaker 4: There, Brodie. 00:45:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you like live in the southeast part of the country, you're probably gonna be pretty excited. 00:45:31 Speaker 2: I get a call from the c suite here in a minute. 00:45:34 Speaker 1: If nobody has said we can't talk about it, so what the hell? 00:45:38 Speaker 2: I just assume I can't talk about it anymore. They tell me lines of communication around here. If they're gonna be mad, Let's move on. 00:45:44 Speaker 3: We got a lot of stuff to cover. 00:45:46 Speaker 4: All right, all right, all right, Bernie says, no more questions. All right, sorry, I guess we can do a lot. 00:45:52 Speaker 2: We can do a long ending question session. 00:45:54 Speaker 1: On to our next interview. Many of you know Parker Hall from me Eater season eight episode Flathead Catfish and Gray Squirrels, where he taught Steve how to eat sunflower seeds properly, specifically had to build a little gravy in the seeds. This was alongside bank poll fishing for flatheads and squirrel hunting with his feiz Ruby. This episode is recently released on the YouTube channel as part of season eight being released there that started I think about a month ago. This is the first episode in season eight. Highly recommend you check it out. 00:46:33 Speaker 3: There's a very good tutorial on how to fry fish the right way in there too. 00:46:38 Speaker 1: Yes, I still do things that I learned from Parker on that trip. One being speaking of fried fish. Parker's probably he's not on yet. He can't even talk. I'm talking for him. But Parker seasons his fish before bredding it, which I think is crucial. The other day we did a breading that had mixed sizes of the breading itself, like there was some panco, there was some flowers, some cornstarch. As the breading got used up, the big stuff the panco was gone. It was turning into a just flour and corn starts breading, which is why, if you think about it, salt and pepper are similarly sized, right, They're fine. And that's why Parker does all seasons of fish first, because if it's in your breading, that salt and pepper are not getting onto the fish as much as whatever bigger chunks of breading you have on there. Say it's corn meal or whatever, right, So if you want even seasoning, you gotta season the fish first. Thanks Parker. All right, let's see. 00:47:38 Speaker 4: Watching this cannot say anything. Okay, let's see, we don't even We don't even need to bring him on anymore. I think you just covered it. 00:47:49 Speaker 1: Parker and I stay in touch via text, usually sending each other videos of our dogs barking on trail or treat if you know you know. Work is the state director of the USDA's Wildlife Services Florida program, and his main focus is alleviating damages associated with ferreal swan. This includes protection of agriculture, natural resources, threatened and endangered species, and disease monitoring. Today he's joining us while he's taking DNA samples from chapped hogs that are threatening sea turtles? Did you know that that could be a thing? No, Welcome to the show, Parker. Oh I can't hear him. 00:48:34 Speaker 4: I don't think it's my fun. I got your mic on, Parker. 00:48:40 Speaker 5: How about now. 00:48:42 Speaker 1: Led it. Did you like that introduction, Parker? 00:48:49 Speaker 5: That was great. 00:48:49 Speaker 7: That was perfect introduction and also perfect description of why you should bread, I mean season your fish first. 00:48:56 Speaker 5: Excellent, excellent description. Perfect o. 00:49:00 Speaker 1: Kay I see that you have a it looks to be either a dead or a neesssized pig in front of you. What are you doing with that thing? 00:49:10 Speaker 5: So thank you for the introduction and good overview. 00:49:14 Speaker 7: This this is a dead pig, not an esecized So something we do in the state is protect, like you said, agriculture, threatened dangerous species, sea turtles, people, who are trying to manage their land and being overrun with pigs. We are not actually doing sea trouble protection day, although we do it all over the state. This is a land manager that's trying to manage here in turkeys and warm seasoned grasses and all those kind of things. So we had a group of pigs captured today, and part of what we do with USDA Wildlife Services is also monitor for diseases. There's a number of diseases that we take samples we take and we look at, including pseudo rabies, brucellosis, classical swine fever, African swine fever, we look some of the flu viruses HPAI, all sorts of things. So as part of that, all the pigs that we capture we do take samples of them. And I was just going to kind of go through that today and show you guys what we take and then if there's any questions you have about what we're looking for, why we're looking. 00:50:16 Speaker 1: For it, that'd be perfect, all right, So move on, all right. 00:50:19 Speaker 5: So we have to do is make sure we put on our ppe. It's kind of. 00:50:29 Speaker 7: It's good to wear ppe when you're taking samples and dealing with fero swine, and most of you guys know. And one thing that we deal with in the Southeast, particular with fero swine to an extent, is sudor rabies and brucellosis. So sudor rabies is not a zoonotic disease, meaning we can't people can't get it, but brucellosis you can. And for those of you that are cleaning feral swine and those things that the brucellosis kind of hangs out in the reproductive tract and the lactating areas and those kind of things, it's always a good idea to use use some protection when you're when you're cleaning ferris wine, if you're if you're gonna consume them, and all these diseases that we're talking about, some of them could be transferred to people, some can't, but it's they're all all killed if you cook it to. 00:51:16 Speaker 5: A proper temperature. So something The first thing I'm gona do is gonna take some blood. 00:51:21 Speaker 7: Hopefully this animal has been dead for some time, so hopefully it's not convealed too much, so pressure's on. What I'm doing is trying to make a heart stick and going in the top of the heart and then that goes into a vial and these these vals are pressureised as you could see. All right, that's this goes into my collection kit. Then I'll take a couple more samples. This next sample, I'll just get a little drop of blood and put it on a on a Q tip and then that goes in some media which I cannot open. Get m Q tip out. 00:52:12 Speaker 1: Hey Parker, if you've got a helper there, would you mind asking them just to angle that camera just up just the hair. We're mostly looking at the bottom half of your faith. 00:52:22 Speaker 5: Okay, how's that there? 00:52:28 Speaker 9: We go? 00:52:29 Speaker 1: Perfect better? 00:52:30 Speaker 5: Okay, good, all right? And this this goes into media. 00:52:34 Speaker 7: And this, this one particular, is looking for a foreign animal's eve African swine fever. We don't we do not have that in in the United States, but it's in Haiti and and down that those type of areas. It's in Africa. It's pretty bad. We don't want it in in feral swine in the United States. And the reason we look for a lot of these diseases and feral swine is for protection of our domestics. So some of them we used to have we've eradicated and we're trying to keep them out. The feral swine all over the country can act as a reservoir, right, so if a disease gets in those wild population, it's much more difficult to. 00:53:12 Speaker 5: Get rid of or treat or do whatever you need to do. 00:53:15 Speaker 7: The ones that are in captivity and the ones we use are for food source, we could treat those animals and kind of stamp out diseases. So it's really bad if they get in the in the in the wild. Try to keep them, you know, try to keep monitoring and if we see something, then we can take proper precautions and talk with our state ag and our state wildlife agencies and then they can take the steps that they're they're going to do. 00:53:37 Speaker 5: So got that one, and the last sample I'll take off of this animal is DNA genetic sample. That's just an air clip. We take that and put that into this media and then that scent. 00:53:57 Speaker 7: And what we're trying to do in us A is get a map of feral swine all over the all over the continental in. 00:54:05 Speaker 5: The United States, to see movements, to see. 00:54:08 Speaker 7: If animals came from one area been relocated to another area, Try to stop translocation, try to see natural movements and how they're doing. 00:54:17 Speaker 5: Pigger pigs are. 00:54:18 Speaker 7: Really taken off all over the country and we're learning a lot of valuable information using this genetic technique. 00:54:28 Speaker 5: So those are the three main samples that we would get. 00:54:32 Speaker 7: That all goes onto a data sheet and you can notice they have these bar codes, so when we send that in, the bar code matches with the vile scan scan scan and goes into you know, the list. And then all of our exile Excel spreadsheets get sent to us and people go through those and take them, take a look and see what our prevalence prevalences are. Like I said, mostly in the southeast sud AB's brucellosis is the ones we have and along with trip trick and osis leftoh those those types of things. We also we also look and when we first get the animal, we just kind of go over it and see if there's any lesions or anything that look that's looking abnormal. And if there there are something we see some blistering, some sluffing of the hoofs, then we contact our our state veterinarians and maybe get them involved to see if there's something that that you know, was on the landscape that we haven't seen or something we don't want. 00:55:26 Speaker 3: Hey, Parker, like what percentage of the pigs you're examining have one of these diseases? Like can you make a ballpark on that? 00:55:38 Speaker 5: Actually know the answer to that? Oh about if I believe it or not? 00:55:44 Speaker 7: About twenty five percent of the pigs that we have in Florida are positive for pseudo RABS. 00:55:51 Speaker 5: Now let me say that's that's not not it so people can't get it. 00:55:55 Speaker 7: But it's fatal in dogs and some other animals and a little to a lesser extent brucellosis, which is about fifteen percent or so, so it isn't. 00:56:07 Speaker 1: I have lots of questions, but if you guys have some, please go. 00:56:10 Speaker 2: I don't have a question. I just wanted to say that had I known you were waiting with a dead hog for us, I would have insisted that we interview you first, so you'dn't have to sit there with your dead hog and your ppe for forty five minutes. But appreciate you having your own Parker. 00:56:26 Speaker 1: You met a world. You mentioned the translocation and that your guys are kind of keeping an eye on that. I'm assuming that that's being done by humans and that it's probably being done by hunters that want to hunt berreal swine in their area. Is that true? Is that what you guys are fighting a little bit. 00:56:49 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what we find. So USDA is non regulatory. But if we have a new population show up where they've never been before in the middle of the country, we're able to some of those and then we work with our state game and fish agencies. I feel like these came from you know, we're in South Dakota and these genetically go back to Orlando or whatever that area. So there's some valuable information that's that's being gained there, and we can tell that there's certain areas in the country where a lot of pigs are coming from. And it's it's pretty neat stuff to be able to see where those hogs are being moved from and where to. 00:57:25 Speaker 5: So yes, can you right? 00:57:29 Speaker 1: I was just going to say, can you just tell us just quickly as we can spread the message of why translocating pigs is a bad idea if you don't know. 00:57:40 Speaker 7: Well, other than the disease issues I've talked about and all of the P and E species, agriculture, uh, you know, destruction in the woods, competing with deer in turkeys, there are non native invasive species, so it's just like any other non native invasive species. They don't belong here, they didn't involve on the landscape, and they compete with all of our native animals and give our agricultural community a pretty big headache. 00:58:10 Speaker 1: I love Parker's job. Parker, you love your job, Love my job? How would you I think there's there's got to be some kids out there listening, some young people, maybe some old people that want to change their career. If someone wanted to get into doing like what you get to do on a daily basis, was just every time we talk to you, I'm like, man, that sounds like fun. What Parker's doing, Like what do they need to do in school? And then what do they need to do after school sort of to get the experience to get in that line of work. 00:58:39 Speaker 5: And thank you for asking that question. 00:58:41 Speaker 7: We're kind of a smaller agency in wildlife services, so we do have, believe it or not, trouble getting applicants sometimes. 00:58:48 Speaker 5: So we have different levels of. 00:58:52 Speaker 7: So technicians, you know, they're they can come to work with wildlife Services with no college degree. They need some experience in the outdoor trapping, you know, animal damage kind of stuff, any of those types of things. They can come to work in those jobs. Those employees are the backbone of wildlife services. They do all the work and we get all the credit. Just like this trap behind me in these feros wine that were trapped, I didn't do it. I was too busy doing spreadsheets. One of my good technicians did it. And so those people are out there and it's a great job. A lot of our jobs are posted on USA Jobs. That's the government website. You can also look up your Each wildlife services state has a web page. You can go and call the state director or call the district supervisor. Ask around in the state. They know as you move up you do need a college degree, like a four year degree in some sort of natural resources, biology, wildlife, all those sorts of things, and that gets you up to that biologist level. And then after you get to that you can work work your way up. But the crux and the heart and soul is is our technicians. You know, are are people who are in the woods making a difference. 01:00:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, were those pigs pretty easy to trap or were these some of those difficult pigs that you've talked about in the past with us. 01:00:15 Speaker 5: No, these were these ones are pretty easy. 01:00:17 Speaker 7: These these haven't been messed with a whole lot, so they weren't too difficult. 01:00:21 Speaker 5: And some of them get super hard. 01:00:22 Speaker 7: And you know, we're talking about a little earlier protecting UH sea turtle nests and that's a big thing that that we do. And some of those guys get squirrely because we chase them, We chase them pretty hard. They'll get out, you know, Florida being what a deal. We have so much coastline and so many nesting sea turtles and ferrel swine are and high populations here, So those pigs will get out on the beach and just dig up turtle nests after turtle nests, after turtle nests, and some of those can get can get kind of squirrely to get to. 01:00:52 Speaker 1: If I had known as a younger person that wildlife tech also included trapping and possibly hunting these animals, I could be on a completely different career path. 01:01:02 Speaker 3: Not too late, honest, all. 01:01:05 Speaker 1: Right, thanks thanks for that, Parker. I hope that you actually get some people that call you up interested and possibly working UH for that agency. Now, before I invited Parker to come on this show. He had text me and said, hey, man, what you guys should do one time on one of your podcast thingies. That's the term you use, is that you guys should name your top three favorite sounds from the woods. And he had already at that time. At that moment, he sent me the list his top three favorite ones, along with the video where you could hear one of the sounds that he said, Now, Parker, do you want to tell me what your do you remember what your three are that you that you sent to me in text? 01:01:51 Speaker 5: I do remember. I do remember. 01:01:52 Speaker 7: Well, I think I remember my three because they don't really change. But before we get to the three, I think it's super important to point out please that we do in building up in the outdoors. We go through a lot of preparation, a lot of things and getting already in the excitement and then all of a sudden you're there. But when you hear a sound, you know it's all come to fruition, something's about to happen. And so I started thinking about that, and I was like, man, sound is such an important thing, you know, when you're when you're outside, you know, recreating, hunting, fishing, doing all those sorts of things. 01:02:29 Speaker 5: So I do know my three. 01:02:32 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm gonna let you start then, and I want you to start with the the number number three, and then go to two and then go to the top one. 01:02:42 Speaker 7: Okay, number three for me is probably a tree dog. And I love the sound of a tree dog. You know, I have Ruby, and you have your your good blue dog, who, by the way, has a beautiful voice and it echoes out through them mouth man. 01:03:01 Speaker 5: I can't get enough of it. I show it to somebody, like, listen to this doll. I love it. And you know you're you're running the track, run the track, run track, and then that changes that chop. 01:03:15 Speaker 7: Man. 01:03:16 Speaker 5: You know something's about to happen. So I really love that part. 01:03:21 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what. 01:03:32 Speaker 1: Beautiful Phil? Do you also have Parker's Ruby? All right, Parker, what's your number two favorite sound in the woods or the outdoors? 01:03:50 Speaker 7: My number two sound is a drag singing just when you hook up to the fish in that draft. You know better that you know it's it's just something that that gets your heart going. You know something good is about to happen. 01:04:06 Speaker 5: So that's number two. 01:04:07 Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna play it right now, that's what I'm yeah. Last, Paul, we got to fish similar water to what Parker is fishing there on the coast at Florida. We were on the coast of Louisiana and I'm assuming that was a redfish in that video, and uh, we got to experience a lot of that. And you can't help but giggle, like when that is happening and that reel is going backwards and making that sound singing, you just can't help but giggle. I mean, it is just one of the best, all right, number one sound in the Turkey Woods, Parker. Then the best sound now, oh sorry, in the woods I meant to say in the. 01:04:58 Speaker 5: Woods is when you you are hunting a turkey and you've been working in for some time and all's quiet, and you in the game. 01:05:07 Speaker 7: You know he's coming, but you don't know where he's gobbled last about twenty minutes ago, and you're just frozen, and all of a sudden, you hear that drum and you on top of you, buddy, and I'm telling you, it gets your heart pumping so fast you freeze rock solid and you hear it again. 01:05:31 Speaker 5: That's the best sound in the woods, if you ask me beautiful. 01:05:34 Speaker 1: Now, for those of you, a turkey drumming the spit you can kind of catch on camera. But that sound of the drum itself, it's one of those sounds that is, for whatever reason, a microphone has a hard time picking up that hum. 01:05:49 Speaker 3: It's so low frequency, right, And like new Turkey Hunters, I think here that like it doesn't even register with that. Like I've tried to point it out to people in there, like what are you I don't hear anything? 01:06:02 Speaker 1: You know, you guys want to go next? Or do you want me to go? 01:06:07 Speaker 9: Go? 01:06:07 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna speed mine up a little bit. We already heard my number third. Number three was Mingus barking Treed. We already heard Mingus number two. This is also a video I sent to Parker. I was really thinking about, like what makes me happy when I hear sound? And I was thinking, man, when I drop in some fish or some turkey nuggets into some oil and that and that oil just is crackling away. Oh yeah, ah, that is a good sound. And like Parker said, you know something's good. It's about to happen. You're gonna about to put that stuff in your mouth that. 01:06:45 Speaker 3: Changes a little too, like when you first throw it in versus when it's ready. 01:06:49 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. That's a good point. That's a good point, all right, number one. And I will say, man, there's a lot of good sounds out there, but this is what came to mind in the last twenty four hours I was putting some effort into making this come together. Is a deer walking through the woods, crunching leaves underfoot, specifically a heavy deer in oak leaves. I don't were you able to pull anything like that up, Phil. 01:07:19 Speaker 4: No, because this is literally the first time I'm hearing out this. 01:07:22 Speaker 1: Okay, but you all, if you're a deer hunter out there, Randall, Brody, you guys have both been there Pennsylvania, Ohio. It's like another sound that you don't really see it before it happens. It's like a lot of times for me when I'm in a tree stand, that's what tips me off to the presence. And somehow, I don't know how, but I feel like I'm getting to the point where I can tell the difference between one hundred and twenty pound doer and one hundred and seventy five to two hundred plus pound buck, like I couldn't do that. 01:07:56 Speaker 2: It's been so long since I sat in a tree stand that as you're describing this, all I can think about is how similar squirrels sound to deer in my in my memory. 01:08:05 Speaker 1: Yes, And the moment you think you got that figured out, you're like, it's a squirrel. You look over there and there's the buck you've been waiting after. 01:08:12 Speaker 2: Like, how does the squirrel make that much noise? 01:08:14 Speaker 1: But man, when I hear that sound the same thing. Man, it's just like you know it's about to go down. You know, whether it's a dough or a buck, whatever, you better like you need to get into predator mode and get your bow in your hand, get your release clipped on, and start focusing real fast because it's it's about to go down, all right, Who's next? 01:08:39 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter, Randall? 01:08:40 Speaker 2: You sure I can go? I brought in a prop for my first sound. 01:08:45 Speaker 1: Oh, Randall's opening a breakdown rod case. 01:08:50 Speaker 5: Brody, if you'll hold this there? 01:08:53 Speaker 2: Sure? 01:08:54 Speaker 8: Now? 01:08:54 Speaker 3: Is this gonna hurt me? 01:08:55 Speaker 2: No, ran I just need you to hold that nice. 01:08:57 Speaker 3: Oh, I know where he is going with this. 01:09:00 Speaker 1: Now we go, Randall's gotta we go. 01:09:02 Speaker 2: Picture this. You're sitting by a riverbank at night, you cast your bait out, settles on the bottom nicely. 01:09:09 Speaker 3: A warm summer night with crickets. 01:09:11 Speaker 2: A warm summer night. You click off your headlamp and you crack open an ice cold beverage, and then all of a sudden you hear put that by your mic, and then you hear and that's how you know, old mister Katatterfish has your bait. Nothing more exciting than hearing that bell ring when you're when you're calfishing at night. Number two, picture this. It's deer season. You're with your buddy. He goes one way, you go the other. You're hiking five minutes, ten minutes, whatever, and you guys are the only guys out there. Then all of a sudden, your buddy shoots. 01:10:02 Speaker 3: M What about the the thwap is good too. 01:10:06 Speaker 2: I was thinking specifically of when we're in Mexico and we were listening on the radio and our buddy shot a buck and he hit it good, but it went off and we could hear him kind of scrambling like I don't know if like where is he? Where is he looking from looking for him? We're sitting there like biting our lips and then all of a sudden you hear boom, he found him. Just a gunshot where you know exactly what happened. That's the best sound in the world. Actually, that's number two. 01:10:35 Speaker 1: That's number two. I'm tracking. You have two great sounds so far. 01:10:39 Speaker 2: Picture this. You're deer hunting in Idaho. It's four thirty. You got a long hike ahead of you, driving down a bumpy road. You're listening to maybe a podcast, maybe the met Eater podcast. Maybe you're listening to some music that'll pump you up, rock and roll, hip hop, whatever your thing is. You get there, you put your head lamp on, you shut the car off, get outside, and you close the door. Perfect silence when all that noise just stops. I feel like whenever I close my truck door and it's there's nothing. It's like something just washes over you. 01:11:18 Speaker 1: M M. The sound of silence. 01:11:20 Speaker 2: The sound of silence, your number one, of silence, that's my number that's my top three. 01:11:29 Speaker 1: Good job, random, top three. I enjoyed that, Rody. 01:11:34 Speaker 3: My number three would be a grouse flushing right at your feet. You got the noise phill. Yeah, that's a very exciting sound. If you're a grouse center and it can take you by let's take you by surprise a lot of times too, and it means good things. So that's a good one for me and my dog. My Number two is uh a magpie called called the whisper song. 01:12:04 Speaker 1: Got that, Phil. 01:12:11 Speaker 3: It almost sounds like they're talking a little bit when they're doing that, like human talking. 01:12:14 Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm only familiar with the whisper song by the Ying Yang twins. 01:12:19 Speaker 3: Not familiar. 01:12:20 Speaker 2: This is the whisper song. 01:12:22 Speaker 3: This one's way better than that because careless whisper, because this is often out west the sound of a successful big game hunt, oftentimes very soon after you shoot and walk up to you know, mule, deer, elk, what have you, You're gonna hear that song pretty quickly and it and it goes on the whole time while you're breaking that animal down because they know a big meals. 01:12:50 Speaker 1: Coming so good the horizon. 01:12:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, So that that's a sound I love. My top one similar to Randall's, a little more specific. It's it's when you because I think this is a very rare thing to hear, which is like you get to the glass and knob, you sit down and it usually takes a little while to sink in and you realize that is completely quiet. There's no background noise, no cars, no planes flying overhead, no dogs barking, no cows moving. It's it's very rare to hear. It may be a little more common out here in the wide open spaces of Montana, and it's tough to find, probably in Wisconsin. But like, it's almost jarring when it sinks in. Oh yeah, when you're you're like, oh my god, there's like no background. 01:13:43 Speaker 1: Like, no wind, noise. 01:13:44 Speaker 2: Even they're no longer panting from the hikes. 01:13:46 Speaker 3: Yeah, you get that that rare, super still day. It's it's it's the best man. 01:13:54 Speaker 1: You've always got me fired up. I was fired up an hour and ten minutes ago, fifteen minutes ago, you guys. Now with the sounds of nature the top ones, I might just take the rest of the day off and go fish and so I can hear real sing. Or go fry some fish, or go find a spot in the woods that is silent. 01:14:11 Speaker 2: I want to go somewhere and just see if I get surprised by a gunshot. 01:14:16 Speaker 4: Everyone. 01:14:17 Speaker 1: Hey Parker, thank you for joining us, Thank you for bringing your work to light. Here and to share. For sharing and for coming with the idea of the top three favorite sounds. I'm sure we're gonna use that one again. 01:14:32 Speaker 2: It was an inspired suggestion. 01:14:34 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, so for all of you at home, thanks for watching and listening. We still got to do more feedback. I figured Phil was just gonna cut me off. You are free to go, man. Thanks. 01:14:47 Speaker 2: You can walk away from that dead hawk now, see he's a good sport. 01:14:54 Speaker 4: Hey, well, how about this be honest. I'm gonna call it quick audible instead of doing questions, how don't we go over? The chat had a lot of great suggestions for sounds from the outdoors. Oh yeah, I haven't really I haven't been reading all of them. But we can just kind of, you know, play it by ear Keith says, drumming of a rough grouse, the song of a red winged blackbird, and the thwack of an arrow connecting like Texas Smoking says, turkeys wouldn't even make his list, which seems controversial. 01:15:21 Speaker 2: It seems like a hot take, Texas Smoking, I like it. 01:15:24 Speaker 4: Wood duck as the sun comes up. It's pretty nice. The first western meadow lark of spring. 01:15:32 Speaker 3: M that's a good. 01:15:33 Speaker 2: I like sandhill cranes. Yeah, so fun. 01:15:38 Speaker 4: Spencer Newhart says, a big buck walking through the woods sounds the same as a squirrel. 01:15:41 Speaker 1: That's true, Spencer, you don't know he hunted in uh North Dakota. They don't have leaves at the at the deer crunch. 01:15:50 Speaker 4: On, Andrew says, an era slicing through the air, turkey gobbling in the distance, and a bullock screaming at you from thirty yards away. You guys didn't hear this, Randam, when you were talking about your gun shot. I played a gunshot, but I didn't have I didn't have the audio in the room up so but the chat heard it and apparently it was timed perfectly. 01:16:12 Speaker 1: So did a job once again? 01:16:14 Speaker 2: Did it go with my boat? 01:16:15 Speaker 1: Did it did go? 01:16:16 Speaker 9: It was? 01:16:17 Speaker 2: It was this I look forward to watch. Oh, I look forward to watching this on YouTube. 01:16:20 Speaker 4: Okay, that'll be fun. 01:16:22 Speaker 1: Randall, I liked it. It was that your friend shoots. Spenser is arguing with you, says that they do have trees, so not with leaves. 01:16:29 Speaker 2: When you when you when someone when you were like with someone and they're like, I'm gonna go after that deer and you're just sitting there and like you lose sight of your body and you lose sight of the deer and you're just waiting and then all of a sudden boom, it's just like what happened? You want to know? You do get There's nothing. 01:16:46 Speaker 4: Better, Jude says, one million duck calls all at once on public lands. 01:16:52 Speaker 1: No, that's not my not my job. 01:16:54 Speaker 4: And yeah, a lot of we got a lot of upland birds flushing. So yeah, thanks for thanks for sharing your thoughts chat appreciate it. Yanni, you are completely off camera right now. 01:17:04 Speaker 1: Oh sorry, I'm just kicking back reading along with you. 01:17:09 Speaker 3: We could do least favorite sounds sometimes too. 01:17:13 Speaker 1: Dwell on the negative. 01:17:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know it's part of life, things going wrong out. 01:17:17 Speaker 1: There, all right, So no questions today, Phil, You know we're at a good time. 01:17:22 Speaker 4: You guys. You guys don't seem very receptive to question. 01:17:25 Speaker 2: No, I'd love to hit a couple of questions. We love, we got plenty of. 01:17:28 Speaker 1: The only reason that I would get finished right now is for your time, Phil. I want to be respectful of you. 01:17:34 Speaker 4: That doesn't mean a lot. I didn't have breakfast and it's lunchtime and I'm getting them get a little hungry. Uh, let's see. Spencer is asking, he says, ask the guys how the sig Range Day competition went? In parentheses? Who won? Is he talking to you? 01:17:50 Speaker 1: I don't even know what range Day competition he's talking about. 01:17:53 Speaker 3: Oh, when we were out at the but it. 01:17:56 Speaker 4: Was the whole crew. 01:17:58 Speaker 2: Who did with the whole crew except for me and Steve recording the audiobook? 01:18:02 Speaker 1: Are you there, Brody? 01:18:03 Speaker 3: Yeah? 01:18:04 Speaker 1: Was I there? 01:18:05 Speaker 3: Yep, we were shooting together. 01:18:08 Speaker 1: Who won? Spencer won? Good job? 01:18:12 Speaker 2: Question? 01:18:13 Speaker 1: What does just have to do? 01:18:14 Speaker 4: He just wanted to talk smack. He's just sad he's not here right now. He's well, that's the thing is like this happens with Randall and Randall's in the chat. Sometimes they're the ones fielding questions, so people just ask them questions for. 01:18:25 Speaker 1: The whole show. When are we doing another live podcast tour, possibly at the end of this year. 01:18:34 Speaker 4: Nate's question, which let's see at the bottom at the bottom, Oh yeah, yeah, Nate asks what it says Phil? What was Randall's score on trivia if he played yesterday's game? 01:18:44 Speaker 2: Yet he is legit I got a perfect game driving into the Sorry, I mean I felt like questions one through five were just gimmes for me. 01:18:56 Speaker 1: Chronograph I can't believe bro I both had the same wrong. 01:19:02 Speaker 2: Answer Great basin National Park. 01:19:05 Speaker 4: Oh people. People in the YouTube comments Yanni were angry about the about Nate's tree stand answer. They said that that should have been accepted. 01:19:14 Speaker 3: No, it shouldn't have. 01:19:16 Speaker 1: But it wasn't me to make the final calls that Sure was hosting. So all right, I agree with him, it wasn't the right answer. Let's go. 01:19:26 Speaker 4: Let's call the show there, guys. 01:19:28 Speaker 2: You don't want to end on a good one, no, Phil. 01:19:31 Speaker 1: Saying there's no good questions left. Randall, Well, here here's the thing. 01:19:34 Speaker 4: I I I love everyone who watches this show every week. If you if you're asking questions in the chat, you're you're you're doing a great job. But a lot of the questions are sort of like, hey, can I have some tips about deer hunting? And we need to get more specific with the questions. 01:19:47 Speaker 1: You know that's at there just a weird question. 01:19:51 Speaker 3: We get a weird one, weird question Randall does doesn't want to go. 01:19:55 Speaker 4: I normally don't flag this super weird question. Okay. Freddie Rick said he was late to the show because he was butchering an antelope, and then he followed up with what is a good use for the outside round besides jerky or grind? 01:20:06 Speaker 1: Outside round is a different term than what I know. Is is he talking about top round? 01:20:12 Speaker 3: I don't know if he's talking top or bottom. 01:20:14 Speaker 1: It's gotta be one of those two. Oftentimes. I mean I just roast it. 01:20:21 Speaker 3: They both of the rounds make good. 01:20:24 Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of round. 01:20:25 Speaker 1: Sticks totally if it's and what I'll do sometimes if I cut one and it's a little bit chewy, the next time I make that same cut, I just give it a little pounding, sure, and it's fine. 01:20:35 Speaker 3: And listen, man, I feel like people don't use enough good cuts off the hind court. If you want good burger, use good cuts. If all you use is shank and shoulder for burger, it's not gonna be great burger. 01:20:48 Speaker 1: Preach that ship, Brody. Do any of you eat your wild game brains? 01:20:55 Speaker 9: No? 01:20:55 Speaker 4: That's from Peter. 01:21:00 Speaker 1: But they want to know why not. Peter don't want to know why not? 01:21:06 Speaker 3: A yeah, that's my answer too. 01:21:11 Speaker 1: I guess like no one's ever come to me and been like, hey, this is a good idea, it's delicious. You should prepare it this way, like I just you know, you hear of some tribes also eating some brains every now and then. 01:21:24 Speaker 3: There's also like and I don't want to be like scaring like people for no reason. There's also like disease concerns with eating brain some brains of some animals like c w D collects in the nervous system and you know brain. Remember that, wasn't there some rumor flying around about eating squirrel brains one time? That's right? So yeah, I just don't do it. 01:21:50 Speaker 4: See here's an example of one I'm not sure, Like Brodie, I want your take, since you're you're you're giving. You pulled me back in Gabriel ass put in for my first hunt in southern Indiana and drew a bow tag from middle of October. It's a unit that he can't get into beforehand. A scout, he has two days to hunt. Any advice or points. 01:22:09 Speaker 3: I think, y'all, this is not a question for me because it's like a white tailed bow archery hunting question. So I'll pass it off the honest. 01:22:20 Speaker 1: And you know I can't get into beforehand, so there's no scouting and he has starting roll in. 01:22:29 Speaker 9: Yeah. 01:22:29 Speaker 1: Year, you know a lot of people say that October is the time for afternoon hunts. Going on that notion, and whether that was the case or not, I would spend at least the first half of the first day, maybe more, maybe three quarters of that day just pounding the ground and looking for sign and learning those woods and trying to figure it out. I'm guessing it's a sounds like it's a good tag to have if it's so limited, so maybe there's not a lot of pressure. I think that you pounding around and trying to figure it out for three quarters of a day, that just then leaves you like an evening hunt and then possibly you know, a morning and evening the next day. That is time better spent than just going in there off of a and like a little bit of not that you should definitely do a whole bunch of onyx gals ahead of time, but like you can't rely and don't be like that's gonna be the perfect saddle. You just don't know. You got to go there and look, you should find out maybe call down there and see what the acorn crop is like this year. Like in Wisconsin, this year we have a booner crop, but find out what's going on down there for feed ahead of time. That'll, you know, educate on where you need to go, what you need to do. But I think my number one thing would do to do was just be to take the time on the ground the first day and pound the ground. Find the sign and you don't have to find rubs and scrapes and all that. Find like some good looking deer trails that look recently used, fine fresh scat. I think that you're gonna be well on your way. 01:24:05 Speaker 3: One thing I would add, even though this isn't mine type of hunt, but if if this guy is talking public land, I'd be looking on on X for something that presents difficult access for a lot of other hunters. 01:24:20 Speaker 2: Sure got a hike over ridge. 01:24:21 Speaker 1: But the difficult access might have already been overcome or been sort of presented through this draw of at tag or whatever. 01:24:28 Speaker 3: Maybe it's Indiana, so there seems like there's gonna be hunters, you know, true, true, good luck. 01:24:35 Speaker 1: Gabriel's start last one, last one here that this one's for randall if they could, oh h. 01:24:45 Speaker 3: I oh, I cannot support that. As a Penn State. 01:24:49 Speaker 1: Fan, thank you all for listening and watching it home. Hope you enjoyed this episode of Meat Eater Radio Live. Who's hosting next week? Is it one of you? 01:25:02 Speaker 2: I'm hosting Randall cal and Seth. 01:25:06 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, that sounds like a banger of an episode. It's gonna be tune in. They're gonna choose the winner of the Moultrie uh Big Big Bowl trail camera will be. 01:25:18 Speaker 4: Choosing the winner. Okay, but you guys, you have to be watching live to vote. 01:25:23 Speaker 1: Okay, Randall's gonna present. We're gonna choose the top four. Randall's gonna present the top four. And to leave you one more time, let's listen to Randalls one of his favorite sounds. Until next time,