00:00:03 Speaker 1: Smell us now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia podcast. Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain Time, that's one pm for our friends in Howard, Pennsylvania on Thursday, August twenty first, and we're live from Mediater HQ and Boseman. I'm your host, Spencer, joined today by Seth and Brody. On today's show, we'll interview Jared Westbrook from the American Chestnut Foundation. Then we'll be reviewing some gear that's currently on sale, followed by the Price is Right, and finally we'll be joined by Pat Dirkin in Minnesota for one minute fishing. But first, Seth and Brody give me an Alaska recap. Very jealous. 00:01:01 Speaker 2: It was good. 00:01:01 Speaker 3: It always is, I would say, in the seven years I've been going there with my family. This was the worst year weather wise and rough seas wise. It two or at least two maybe three days. We couldn't even get out to like the good halibut spots yep. So you know that's part of it. You know you're gonna have weather. But we still scratched out plenty of fish and everybody had fun. 00:01:29 Speaker 1: Not the worst fishing in your seven years of going there though, No, when we could. 00:01:32 Speaker 3: Get out it was good. 00:01:35 Speaker 2: Yeah, some things were not so good this year, like salmon. 00:01:39 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. Normally we put up a lot of silvers, but the silver run either hadn't started or it was just a really weak run this year. 00:01:48 Speaker 1: Tell me about this picture we're. 00:01:49 Speaker 3: Looking at that is a silver gray rock fish, and one normally when we get them there like yeah big, maybe sixteen inches is a decent one. And I we dropped down on a rocky spire for ling cod, and that thing came up and we thought, like when it was coming up from one hundred feet down, we thought it was a big link cod. And it turns out it was a giant silver gray. I didn't weigh it. The world record is sixteen pounds, and that thing is I don't know. It felt like picking up a jake turkey like so, I don't know thirteen Oh yeah, it was scaling. The boat was like this. It was giant. 00:02:34 Speaker 2: It was a big fit. It was the biggest one I've ever seen. 00:02:36 Speaker 3: Would le keep We kept it? Oh yeah, it's in the freezer. 00:02:41 Speaker 1: Okay, So, like, are the gut still in it? 00:02:44 Speaker 2: No? 00:02:44 Speaker 3: No, no, it's it's delayed. 00:02:45 Speaker 1: But now I'm so curious about to wait, I know, but you know nothing. 00:02:53 Speaker 3: So yeah, that was like probably my fish and highlight other than putting the kids on a bunch of fish. 00:02:58 Speaker 1: And uh, when you were reeling that in, what do you think it was? 00:03:01 Speaker 2: Dude? 00:03:01 Speaker 3: It was like I thought it was a big link cod because normally it was rockfish. They'll give a few headshakes and then they come up pretty easily, and that thing was just dig in and it pulled line a couple of times, pulled drag a couple of times, and you can see color coming up from a long ways down and I was like, yep, it's a big link cod. And Andy See's buddy was in the boat from me, He's like, I knew it hit as soon as it like, I digged that hit bottom, jigged at once and it was on. But then I was like, holy shit, that's a giant silver gray. So that was cool. 00:03:34 Speaker 1: Is the world record also Alaska's state record? Did it come from? 00:03:38 Speaker 3: I didn't look at that. It came from Alaska, though, so I'm assuming it's also the state record. 00:03:42 Speaker 2: I don't know. 00:03:45 Speaker 3: Some other highlights are my wife, I was not in the boat thankfully when this happened. But my wife got a seventy eighty pounder halibit up to up to the surface and like as she's fighting it. She was in Andy's boat and and Steve kind of rushed into the scene and took over and jumped. 00:04:12 Speaker 2: In the boat. That's when everything went to ship ill. 00:04:15 Speaker 3: I heard as it went to total chaos when Steve shut up anyway, got wrapped around the anchor line and they're trying to they're hand lining it in like it was all looking like it might happen. But Steve said that the halbit dodged the harpoon and and the fish got off. 00:04:36 Speaker 2: I was I was in a different boat about I don't know, one hundred yards away when this was all going out watching it. I could tell that that his wife Carrie was onto something big. So I got my binoculars out. I was watching it all happen through my binoculars. Finders yep, that's right, and Steve. I see Steve coming. He he's like, what's going on? You catch anything? I said, they're they're into something big over there. So he of course goes over there as quick as he can. And uh, I'm watching my binoculars, and I see him get the harpoon, and I'm like, and I could tell like carry has something big on. 00:05:16 Speaker 1: Steve gets on the boat. 00:05:17 Speaker 2: Steve gets on their boat, grabs the harpoon, and I see him like throw the harpoon and then like he picks the harpoon up, throws it at the bottom of the boat and then crosses his arm. 00:05:30 Speaker 3: I'm like, that ain't good, no, no, but enough picking on Steve. It was, it was. It was a good trip. And that kind of thing happens with big halibit. But I'll tell you what, like, if you want to catch a big halbit, you end up in a fish shack and you want to get a big one, this is the guy to go with. Because he was putting all kinds of people on big hell. 00:05:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got some good ones this year. 00:05:51 Speaker 1: What have that been the big one of the trip? That fish? 00:05:54 Speaker 2: I don't know. 00:05:55 Speaker 1: They were all like when they get away, they are the biggest. 00:06:00 Speaker 2: Steve's boy Jimmy was in my boat and he got an eighty pounder, and then his daughter was in the boat the day before she got a sixty. I had what I believed to be between a seventy to eighty to the boat, and there was a little mishap with the harpoon again with my wife run in the harpoon Kelsey, and then my dad had one on that we never saw it, but it drug us around for quite a while and then it got off. 00:06:28 Speaker 1: Give me a cabin update. 00:06:31 Speaker 3: Cabin's looking good. 00:06:33 Speaker 2: We got on this trip. We we wired the place and got a roof on the back porch. 00:06:40 Speaker 3: Okay, no, it looks great man. 00:06:42 Speaker 2: Better than ever, better than. 00:06:43 Speaker 1: Ever, like even better than prior to the Christmas tree coming to. 00:06:48 Speaker 3: It looks brand new from the outside. 00:06:50 Speaker 2: It's beautiful. Thanks. 00:06:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's still a lot to do. 00:06:53 Speaker 1: But how many hours do you think you spent on this trip? You were there for what a week? 00:06:57 Speaker 2: Two weeks? 00:06:58 Speaker 1: Two weeks? How many hours in that two weeks when you hammer it away on the cabin? 00:07:03 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. A few good days, like all day for the most part, working on it to eight hour shifts more probably more once it's all some I mean some days when we'd fish the morning and I just work on the It's like I wasn't just working on one project the whole time. There's like kind of a bunch of things going on and then just like little stuff cleaning up, you know, stuff around the cabin or fixing little things, and you know it's just it's just I could honestly go up there and work on it for two weeks straight and not fish at all. 00:07:39 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, but Phil, do we got uh do? We got Steve's dispatch an octopus video watch till the end. 00:08:05 Speaker 2: There. 00:08:05 Speaker 1: We just watched Steve Biden to the would you say that's the head? 00:08:10 Speaker 2: Yeah? 00:08:10 Speaker 3: The brain? Okay, yeah, chomping down on the brain. I think I learned that from Kimmy Werner. I think something is that how every octopus dies up there that you guys keep. 00:08:20 Speaker 2: I don't know about up there, but in Hawaii for sure. Yeah, usually they turn they like immediately go a different color. 00:08:30 Speaker 1: I was waiting for that thing to just go totally limp. 00:08:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he didn't get it. 00:08:34 Speaker 3: Great those things come up in the shrimp pots though. 00:08:36 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't get in there and eat all your shrimp out of your pot. 00:08:40 Speaker 1: Okay, done with Alaska, then for the year, you won't return till the spring. 00:08:44 Speaker 2: Not till spring. Yeah. Unfortunately, unless I can squeeze in a trip, I don't think that's gonna happen. 00:08:49 Speaker 1: What's gonna be the big project next year. 00:08:53 Speaker 2: Outdoor shower. They got a couple of pilings we got to replace yet. 00:08:58 Speaker 1: Okay, is that outdoor shower going to be a game changer? 00:09:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, just gets all the moisture and humidity from a shower out of the cabin. The main thing up there is moisture management. Yeah, I've come to find over the years, because if you leave the place, when you button it up for the year with moisture in there, you come back with quite a bit of mold. 00:09:20 Speaker 1: I was surprised to hear you saying that, like snow just doesn't stick. 00:09:25 Speaker 2: I mean from what I hear. I've never been up there during the winter, but from what I hear, they'll get like big dumps of snow and then it just like melts. 00:09:33 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:09:33 Speaker 3: Next, like that maritime climate, you know, like the Pacific Northwest. 00:09:38 Speaker 2: It's just yeah, snow's one day. Rains the next type of thing. 00:09:42 Speaker 1: And you said thirteen feet of precipitation annually. 00:09:45 Speaker 3: We got thirteen feet while there. 00:09:48 Speaker 2: It rained a lot. 00:09:49 Speaker 1: Ye still brought home some good fish and a potential world record. 00:09:54 Speaker 3: No, well I don't think it was a world record. 00:09:56 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:09:57 Speaker 1: Well, you didn't weigh it, so no, never know. All right, let's get on with the show. Joining us on the line first is Jared Westbrook, the director of Science from the American Chestnut Foundation. He's here to talk about restoring this once plentiful tree. Jared, Welcome to the show. 00:10:14 Speaker 5: Hello everyone. 00:10:16 Speaker 1: First thing, Jared, take us back in time and tell us about when things were good for the American chestnut. 00:10:23 Speaker 5: Well, chestnuts and their relatives have been around in North America for forty million years and where you all are in Montana, they used to live out there in Idaho and Colorado. Chestnut fossils have been found in Tennessee, some of the oldest ones. And they used to like as the ice age came down, like in thirteen thousand years ago, they went all the way down into Florida, and then slowly over the last two thousand years they moved up into like New England. 00:10:56 Speaker 2: And people use them. 00:10:59 Speaker 5: Native Americans like would burn the forest create openings. The chestnuts would be plentiful source of food. And then when European sellers came over here, we you know, collected nuts by the trainload and ship them up to the cities. New York City Baltimore. People sold them on the street corners. They made more money off of chestnuts and they did off of farming, So it was a source of livelihood for people. And before and after, I mean during that time, people brought over Chinese chestnuts and we can talk about the blight next. 00:11:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, today the USDA refers to the American chestnut as a quote near mythical species. So what happened? 00:11:44 Speaker 5: So the chestnuts used to be in you know, North Carolina where I live, in the Smoky Mountains, like you could, there's like reports of people being able to walk their cows into the inside of the trees and walk around like they're that big. So they're huge, you know, old growth stands of these in the Smoky Mountains and then up into the throughout the Appalachians. And in nineteen oh four, actually earlier people were brought over like Japanese chestnuts and Chinese chestnuts because they were bred for having large nuts to eat, and they brought them over and they did not know that a fungus was on those trees. And this fungus attacks the bark of the tree and then they die from the top of the tree dies, but they still live. 00:12:38 Speaker 2: From their roots. 00:12:39 Speaker 5: But right now, there was like four billion trees on the East coast. Now there's probably a few hundred million that are left, but they're sitting in the understory of the forest. Like if you're walking around the woods in the Appalachian Mountains, you might see them. They have the blight, but they don't really flower and reproduce, so they're no longer evolving on their own living as a tree as they once were. 00:13:05 Speaker 1: Now i've seen your organization refer to them as functionally extinct. 00:13:09 Speaker 5: Why that label, because they're not actually extinct, like in the sense that there's no chestnuts out in the landscape. They're actually kind of plentiful, especially around here in Carolina and Western Carolina. But they don't reproduce. They'll grow up like ten feet and then they get the blight and they die, and they're in this cycle of dying back and then re sprouting from their roots over and over again. So yeah, they're not really reproducing on their own. But we can occasionally get on the side of the road sometimes we'll find one. Some people will tell us like, oh, there's a chestnut flowering, and we can get seeds from those and breed those trees, but then they die from blight, so it's not like a permanent solution that they're reproducing on their own. 00:13:57 Speaker 1: Some estimates say they are fewer than one hundred mature American chestnuts left in the wild. What can you tell us about where those mature trees live and how they've been able to survive the blight. 00:14:08 Speaker 5: Yeah, we call them large surviving American chestnuts, and they're extremely rare. Like I was saying, like there's hundreds of millions left, but like there's a I know of a few dozen. We have names for them, like ort There's one tree in Pennsylvania, it's in someone's yard. It's called Ortz. We have another tree in Virginia, Amherst Tree Erie, Pennsylvania. So we know these trees and they have the blight, and they've been living with the blight probably since before I mean when the original pandemic of the blake came through, and they seem to have a slightly elevated resistance when we've actually crossed those trees, like bred them together and then we gave their kids the blight, and the kids have somewhat elevated resistance, but they're not super resistant themselves. So they're kind of lucky trees, you could say, and they have low levels of blight resistance. 00:15:08 Speaker 1: You guys do a lot of citizen science and you ask people to fill out a tree locator form if they think they've spotted an American chestnut. What are some of the strangest places you've had confirmed trees? 00:15:20 Speaker 5: Well, some of the trees, you know, what's interesting is like people brought Lewis and Clark, like the Loos and Clark expedition brought chestnuts, or people brought them over the Washington state, So like on the coast range in Washington, there are chestnuts growing that don't have blight. So in California and Washington, these are areas where strangely the blight hasn't come and these trees are mature. There's another tree in Belgium that was brought over before the blight that's maybe the largest tree in the world. It's like one hundred and twenty feet tall, and so you can actually see, you know, these trees that you can actually see how the tree grows now are really rare, but the West Coast has some and Europe in our reedom has one. 00:16:10 Speaker 2: So if you. 00:16:12 Speaker 5: Ever get out to to reove him our freedom in Belgium. That's one place you could see in American. 00:16:17 Speaker 2: Chestnut, Jared, has there been any movement with crossing American chestnuts with other chestnuts that are like resistant to the blight? When I was in college, we did a little bit of that, planting trees that were like American chestnut mixed with something else, like a Chinese chestnut. I don't remember exactly what it was, but just trying to find something that could live on the landscape and be resistant to the blight. 00:16:47 Speaker 5: Yeah, So that's that been the focus of our organization is the Chinese chestnuts, Japanese chestnuts. They they co evolved with the blight fungus for tens of millions of years. They have resistance and there's been a long effort starting in the nineteen twenties to breed cross breed the American species with the Chinese and the Japanese. And what we've done is you get the fifty to fifty hybrids between the two species and they tend to they have resistance from the Asian chestnut species and they are fertile. So we do they all the chestnut species hybridize readily, but in order to make them grow and be competitive in the forest. The American chestnuts grow very tall. The Chinese chestnuts tend to be shorter orchard trees. What we're trying to do is basically cross those hybrids back to American chestnut, dilute out some of the Chinese traits, bring in more of the American traits, but also select for resistance so that we can improve improve that over time. So what we're trying to do is kind of dilute out the make the trees keep the resistance, but then also breed for these tall timber type traits in the American chestnut. And we have this citizen science organization that where people have found trees, like from Maine all the way down to Mississippi. They tell us, we've found a tree, it's flowering, and we've taken pollen from our hybrid our selected hybrids and put it on those trees to get these diverse populations. 00:18:25 Speaker 6: And we have probably four to five. 00:18:28 Speaker 5: Hundred orchards across the East Coast maintained by volunteers that have been We plant the kids of these hybrids in these orchards and we give them blight and we see which trees survive from that, and we've continued now, I mean, we've done this huge effort of like looking at all these trees resistance over like the last twenty years, and we are now crossing these best trees that have really good resistance with each other and selecting even better kids of the trees. So we're incrementally improving the resistance so the trees can live on their own. 00:19:05 Speaker 3: Awesome, Hey, Jared, Beyond like physical cross breeding where you're like putting pollen on another tree, has there been any any like lab genetic engineering to to to work on resistance to the to the blade. 00:19:25 Speaker 5: Yeah, there is a there is a what's called a transgenic tree where it has a gene from wheat that's put it been put into the American chestnut tree. The gene is involved in it like detoxifies an acid that's produced by the fungus and that has it's going under a it's been under review by the USDA to be able to release those trees, and we've done some assessments on their resistance and they look they looked great initially in the when we look at the seedlings stage and we gave them a blight as little babies but when you put them out in the like over time for a longer period of time, they get pretty severe infections. And there's a lot of susceptible trees. So what we've learned is that the resistance is complicated. There's a lot of there's a lot of genes involved in that, and so doing that cross breeding brings in a lot of those genes involved in the resistance to give it more durable resistance than any single gene could give the trees. 00:20:31 Speaker 1: Jared, why does it matter? What does the American chestnut provide that our eastern forests are missing without them there? 00:20:39 Speaker 5: I mean, I would love to see chestnuts on the mountains in North Carolina. They grow on top of the mountains with some of the most beautiful places in the Appalachians, and they used to provide nuts every year, and the wildlife carrying capacity of the forests diminished as a result of loss of the chestnut, And there are insects and things that also were dependent on the tree, and we would love to see like in this there's like strip mind sits in throughout Appalachia where the chestnuts grow really well on that really poor acidic soil. So I'd love to see, you know, reclamation of some of the mind lands with chestnuts going forward. 00:21:25 Speaker 1: For people who are listening right now, what can they do to help the American chestnut. 00:21:31 Speaker 5: Well, we are a citizen science organization and a nonprofit organization and we have we're funded by members and so people donate to us and that helps us. What we're doing is a lot of genomic testing on our trees to make the breeding go faster, growing out the best kids and then giving them blight and seeing which you know, really confirming you have resistance. So if you live in the East Coast, you can join your local chapter. We have sixteen state chapters across the East Coast. But also just donate to TACF to help us with some of our work to do the cross breeding and genomics to better understand resistance and make the breeding work a lot better. 00:22:13 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us, Jared, and thanks for helping save the American chestnut. 00:22:17 Speaker 5: Thanks guys, Thanks Jared. 00:22:18 Speaker 1: By now, I saw you two boys nodding along when he said that there is a mature one living in Eerie, Pennsylvania. 00:22:27 Speaker 2: That's Brodie's next. 00:22:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my old stomping ground. So I didn't know that it's just just that's where it came from. 00:22:32 Speaker 2: I know several that are living on the family farm, but they they're just stump sprouting from old stumps. 00:22:38 Speaker 1: There's babies. 00:22:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, they only get like he said, ten ten twelve feet tall and then die. 00:22:43 Speaker 1: Did you know that before today? That like, that's what that was and that's why it was doing it? 00:22:48 Speaker 2: Yep, Yeah, yeah, I mean there's I don't I don't know how many there are exactly on the farm, but I mean you can it's nothing to walk for five minutes in the woods and find a couple of them. 00:23:00 Speaker 1: I think he said there's hundreds of millions that just never reached maturity. 00:23:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all over the place. But yeah, man, it's such a shame. Those trees were like I mean, I've heard them called like the redwoods the East East. Yeah, just huge trees that I couldn't imagine what it would have been like back in the day to see that mm hm. 00:23:20 Speaker 1: Deers A lot of critters would have been eating them. 00:23:22 Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. Yeah, we have some Chinese chestnuts on the farm, and man, when those things start falling, the deer hammering them, they love them all right. 00:23:34 Speaker 1: Moving on our next segment is Gear Talk. 00:23:37 Speaker 7: Let's talk about geara beat, Let's talk about the Beat. Let's talk about blues in cano patterns with Yon d. Let's talk about Let's talk about gear. Let's talk. 00:23:53 Speaker 1: This week for gear Talk, we are talking about our favorite First Light gear. Their season opener sales happening right now over on first dot com. This is one of their biggest sales and just in time for hunting season. You can get up to forty percent off select bass layers, outer where pants, and more. The deals are happening now through Sunday, August twenty fourth. Again, that's first slight dot Com for some of their biggest discounts of the year. All right, Seth, you go first. What are you talking to us about today? 00:24:21 Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk to you about my favorite hunting pant of all time, the Corget Foundry pan m Man. I still have the original pair that I got when these things first came out years ago, probably five six years ago, don't even remember. But I still use them every fall. They can't wear them out. I like them because they have knee pads, which I like to have in a hunting pant, especially when you're doing stuff like analoe punting and whatnot crawling around. It's nice tom kneepads. And they got the waterproof knees and seat which is helpful. 00:24:59 Speaker 1: And they are thirty percent off this week again. This sale goes through Sunday. What hunts You're gonna be wearing them on this year? 00:25:07 Speaker 2: Pretty much everything I'm hunting, elk, deer, antelope. I'll probably wear them when I go back East white tail hunting, depending on the weather. Yeah, I kind of wear them for everything. I honestly just wear them when I'm in the office. I wear them in the office. I wore them for two weeks in Alaska recently. 00:25:26 Speaker 1: Good endorsement. 00:25:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wear them all the time. I like just general fixing stuff around the house. Because you got knee pads, you're always you know, on your knees for something. 00:25:37 Speaker 1: So that is the corrugate foundry pant thirty percent off for the next few days. All right, I'm gonna go next. I am going to talk to you about the men's kiln Long John that is twenty percent off during this sale. This is my favorite bass layer. It's my most used bass layer. My guess would be that it's the most used bass layer among the crew, and if I could only have like a singular bass layer for the rest of my life, it would be this, the Kiln Long John. They're easy to hike in. They also work great if you're still hunting. I wore them when I killed the Bowl last year and it was fifty degrees on opening day. I also wore them when I killed Amui on the last week of the season when it was negative eighteen degrees wind chill. They're comfortable enough to sleep in if I'm tentting in cold weather. Wear then when I'm snowblowing my driveway. And the badass skiers in the office, like Corey Caulkins, he'll wear them for skiing. He especially likes the ones that have the zippers in them three hundred eight to reviews on First Light's website four point eight one stars. So they are just universally loved. Again. That's the Kiln Long John sizes available small to two axl. They're also available in the women's version, the Kiln Long Jane, and that is twenty percent off right now as well. 00:26:49 Speaker 2: It's a great piece. 00:26:51 Speaker 1: Like I said, I genuinely wear it all fall. 00:26:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just love wool next to skin. 00:26:58 Speaker 3: I ran them from like October to eight. 00:27:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, half the year. 00:27:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's legit, all right, Brody, what are you talking about today? 00:27:06 Speaker 3: The dirt Bag Duffel. Uh, I've been running these things for I don't know, like these things have been out for what four or five years now? At least I have the original. I've uh a couple of the big ones, a couple of the Meetium ones like and I have had no trouble with any of them. Their their bomb proof, they're durable, they're great when you got to take stuff into like a wet environment like Southeast Alaska or like the river trip that we're gonna do later this year. They're just they're just a really good duffle and they got you know, extra features like pockets and things like that. You can carry it like a backpack through the airport if you want. For a very long time, I was a Patagonia black Hole supporter, and the dirt Bag Duffel kind of took over. That's the large took over that spot for me. You can fit a week's where the stuff in there easily. And the big one. 00:28:11 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's the thing that I travel with the most, so much so that I had to get a second one because my wife wanted to have one as well. That's that's the medium I use for a lot of traveling. They also what's the material on them? 00:28:25 Speaker 3: It's TPU rip stop. But you know it's got that well, it's got like a coating on it, you know, a water. 00:28:33 Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna get it. It has the lid that I think they call the launch pad and you open it up. If you're hunting and you're like changing boots and you stand on that thing, it doesn't matter if there's snow or water underneath it. Your feet are not going to get wet. I love the dirt bag Duffel and that is twenty percent off this week as well. 00:28:49 Speaker 2: Yeah. I just had that thing in Southeast Alaska. Yeah, when we're up there, and when we were leaving it was pouring rain. 00:28:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you gotta set your stuff out before the float playing guests there. 00:29:02 Speaker 2: Yeah. I had that thing sitting in the rain for a while and it was fine. 00:29:05 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:29:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, they have small, medium, and large. I'll travel with all my hunting clothes in there in the fall, and then again if we're just like staying in a hotel, somewhere. It's a Duffel that my wife and I both use. 00:29:17 Speaker 2: Again. 00:29:18 Speaker 1: That is the season opener sale where one hundred and twenty first Light items are discounted this week. The deals in on Sunday, August twenty fourth. Head over to first light dot com to gear up before it's too late. All right, we're halfway through the show, Phil, Let's take a break for some listener feedback. What's the chat I have to say? 00:29:34 Speaker 8: Yeah, let's do I get those questions in? Cameron says. Question for the crew, what are some tips to keep meat from spoiling on warmer days and longer packouts. Cameron says that he's doing his first elk hunt DIY style in Kentucky. 00:29:48 Speaker 3: I'll chime in, get the skin off, but I, like you would be surprised how long skinned out out quarters can last and more weather if you get the skin off and hang them in a shady spot with some breeze, like, it's not a problem. If it's seventy degrees out during the day. You can hang that meat longer than you think you can. If you get that skin off and hang it in a shady spot. 00:30:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, as long as it gets that crusted. Yeah, you'd be surprised. I was surprised when we were in Africa. There's no refrigeration there. They hung that meat for days. 00:30:29 Speaker 3: Yeah. If you get like one cool night to get the interior you know of the meat cooled, You're gonna be fine for like a few days. It's just not something I worry about a whole lot. 00:30:43 Speaker 1: Airflow very important, and as we've talked about on previous episodes of Trivia, if the conditions are too extreme, you could get bone rot, especially around those joints are gonna hold a lot of heat. Being a here in Kentucky, I'm guessing that thing's not gonna be away from a cooler for too long. So just get on as soon as you can and. 00:31:01 Speaker 3: Keep it dry. Like, if that stuff's hanging and it gets wet, it's gonna go bad a lot faster. 00:31:08 Speaker 8: Let's see Freddy Rick and the man says, I'm taking my wife out antelope hunting tomorrow. What's the fun in the field? Meal we should make? If successful? 00:31:16 Speaker 1: Mmm? I love. 00:31:18 Speaker 2: I don't know. 00:31:18 Speaker 1: If it was like season four of Meat Eater, Steve's on a solo analo punt and he cooks up some bucknuts in butter. It's it's real easy. All you need is a source of heat, a skillet and some butter and and that's a pretty authentic way to enjoy a successful anelope punt. 00:31:37 Speaker 2: You gotta go. 00:31:38 Speaker 3: If you do those, don't go high heat or they'll explode. You gotta take your time with them. 00:31:43 Speaker 2: I like tenderloin fresh in the field, just because, especially with an antelope, if you get that crossed on those things, like you end up just taking too much. Like just eat those things. 00:31:54 Speaker 1: Fresh, you know, want those to go in the freezer. 00:31:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, just eat them fresh over fire or something, and they're fantast. 00:32:00 Speaker 3: The heart would be good to cut that up right away and eat that. 00:32:05 Speaker 8: Drifting flies has been just absolutely stoked in the chat. This whole show just mostly all caps Trump style. But he says Brody favorite streamer, He's gonna target some big browns very soon. 00:32:18 Speaker 3: There's an old old I don't know if they still make it. I bet you they do. It's called the Takili. I wish we could pull up a picture of it. It's got like a shiny like copper colored UHL body and then like a bright like yellow marriboo tail and some big bright rubber legs on it, and like in the fall, it drives those big brown trout insane. It's a good one. 00:32:49 Speaker 1: Do you tie your own streamers back in the day? 00:32:51 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, I tied a lot of flies. I still have all this stuff, you know, I just don't. 00:32:57 Speaker 1: Waiting for your sons to get into it. 00:32:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you think I have so many flies that don't now I don't need to tie any I don't know. But yeah, that's a real good one. There's a bunch of like I'm not like I kind of stopped fly fishing as much. There's been like a new wave of fly tying that's gone on, like especially in the streamer world, playing that to me just bigger, Like it's trended towards bigger in the last several years. Like Kelly Gallup at the slide In He's got these real big flies that tend to have weird names like sex Dungeon and things like that. And then Blaine Chocolates, God, what game changer. Like a lot of people are throwing those and they tend to tend to if you want to like specifically target like a brown shout thirty inches and larger. You need to be throwing a fly that's six inches long or bigger, I would say, because otherwise you're just gonna be catching a lot of sixteen. 00:33:56 Speaker 8: Inches Mississippi, says Spencer, Birdie and Steth. What's your favorite feature that you look for in a skinning knife or features? 00:34:08 Speaker 1: Probably just how it feels in my hand. I know, like my favorite knife then I keep in my gun cabinet. You could put a blindfold on me and hand me all my knives and I would pick that one, I think every single time, just because it feels right in my hand. So as far as what you're looking for, I don't know specifics. When you're just looking at something, how's it feel in your hand. I'll tell you one thing. I don't care for a gut hook on my nod. It just like gets in the way. And it seems like those were very fashionable for a moment and they're becoming less fashionable now. But I'm just like pretty much immediately not interested if it has a big gut hook on it. 00:34:44 Speaker 3: I would say something without an overly large blade. I think you know when you're when you're dealing with stuff laying on the ground, and getting skin off, like a big long blade is just going to be detrimental. And I I like like with wise and narrower ones. I know some people like that wider blade, but I like something a little narrower, a little more nimble. 00:35:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that, something narrower. 00:35:12 Speaker 3: But those heavy duty like sturdy knives with like broader blades. When you get into like pop and hip joints and stuff like that, that's where they come in handy. But yeah, it's something that's sharp and something that feels good, something that holds an edge, Seth. 00:35:30 Speaker 2: I like something with a little bit more of a rounded tip, not so pointy on the tip. It also depends on what I'm skinning, Like if I'm not worried about putting holes in it, like a deer, usually you know, it doesn't matter that much. But if I'm skinning something like a coyote or something that I want to tan and keep the high nice, I like a little boy rounded tip so I don't punch holes in it. 00:35:53 Speaker 1: Let's see one morning for now. 00:35:54 Speaker 8: Phil jure Ethan says, Seth. My buddy Sean just won the Michigan Walleye Tour for the second straight year. When you're at some filets down next weekend. Best way to cook them? Thanks, man. 00:36:05 Speaker 2: I just like fried walleye. It's hard to beat that. At one time took a small, smaller walleye filets and like rolled them up lengthwise and you wrap those in bacon. It's kind of like a like a walleye pin wheel tank and just bake those or put them on the grill, you know, hit them with some butter and whatnot. That was pretty good. Brody. 00:36:28 Speaker 1: You been eating a lot of walleye this summer. 00:36:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's my like my wife like some panco crusted, Yeah, like pan fried, not like deep fried, and that's very good. Another thing their walleye is pretty delicate, but you can pull it off if you're careful. Is you get them on a on a griddle, like an outdoor griddle like a black stone or whatever, and just do black and Cajun black and filets. Those are real good. 00:36:54 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:36:55 Speaker 1: You go to the meat eater dot com. You'll find a lot of good walleye recipes there. H Jesse Griff I think it was probably four or five years ago at this point. Dead beer battered fish, which that recipe would work great for walleye as well. That's what I'd recommend. 00:37:11 Speaker 2: Chester, and I did one of those. It was a meteor cooked or something episode where we fried walleye and it was fantastic Panco style. 00:37:21 Speaker 1: Even though Chester can't even enjoy it. Nope, just gotta look. 00:37:24 Speaker 2: He's just gotta look and smell all right. 00:37:26 Speaker 1: Moving on, Our next segment is one Minute Fishing. 00:37:30 Speaker 2: I feel lucky. We'll do you Punk, go ahead. 00:37:36 Speaker 1: Make my cast. One Minute Fishing is where we go live to someone who's fishing and they have one minute to catch a fish, and if they're successful, we'll make a five hundred dollars donation to a conservation group. This week, our angler is American hero Pat Dirkin. He's on Lake Vermillion in Minnesota and fishing for a donation to sturgeon for tomorrow. Pat, Welcome to the show. 00:37:58 Speaker 6: Hey, Spencer, Pat's got a. 00:38:02 Speaker 1: Fish he's holding right now. 00:38:05 Speaker 3: They've already done. 00:38:06 Speaker 6: Wow, we just reeled it in just now. 00:38:10 Speaker 1: Okay, Well that that's a good sign. How'd you catch it? 00:38:15 Speaker 6: Late? And tell him what you caught? Speak up? A small mouth? 00:38:22 Speaker 1: Pass, a very nice small mouth. He's been putting on his feedbag for fall. That thing's got a nice gut on it. Pat, you have a few guests with you today. Tell us about your fishing buddies. 00:38:33 Speaker 9: First of all, here is Layton Lates, my nine year old grandson from Rochester, Minnesota, over my left shoulder. Here it's my daughter, Leah. This is my oldest daughter. She was fourteen years in the Navy Spencer. 00:38:50 Speaker 2: Wow. Cool. 00:38:54 Speaker 1: Now, I didn't know that they let cheeseheads fish in Minnesota. So why lake for me? Pat? 00:39:02 Speaker 2: Well? 00:39:02 Speaker 9: We it's kind of a long story, but Leah walked into a good opportunity to pick up one week rental up here around Lake Vermilion. And I hear Lake Vermillion. They make sure you know it's spelled with one L. But it's a lake with three hundred and sixty one islands, some big areas the west of Ely, Minnesota. 00:39:26 Speaker 1: And and what's the plan for that small mouth? Is he gonna go in the live well or back in the lake? 00:39:31 Speaker 9: Lay Lighton says, live well, Okay, that means we'll be eating him for dinner probably. 00:39:38 Speaker 1: I like that attitude. How's the fishing been so far this week? 00:39:41 Speaker 6: Pat Well? Our first day was Tuesday. 00:39:44 Speaker 9: We got four walleyes and let's see a couple of small malls perch. They were getting mainly perched for fishing. Slip bobbers here on arms Strong excuse me, Armstrong bay. And so this is a we caught maybe a half dozen nice percha this morning and now it's capping it. Get a little floor until this. 00:40:07 Speaker 1: Guy gets Okay, So for one minute fishing, are you targeting small mouth? Are you going for something else? 00:40:14 Speaker 9: We've been targeting basically perch, perch and bluegills, And once while when these when these random small almost shows up and smacks that little crappie you know, sized jig, and once a while, we've got gotten them in the boat today. 00:40:30 Speaker 1: Okay, So one minute fishing, he's looking for a perch of bluegill or a small mouth. And you said you're tossing jigs at them. 00:40:38 Speaker 9: Yeah, we got we have what we're doing. We have this little chunks of worm on there that's again like a number eight, number six that thereabouts. Put this in the live well, hang on one second. 00:40:57 Speaker 1: Okay uh. And then after Pat gets the fish in his live well, we're gonna start one minute fishing, and for the first time ever, we're gonna have three anglers. Uh, trying to fish for that donation today. So Pat, whenever you guys make your first cast, you're one minute of fishing will start. 00:41:15 Speaker 6: I'm gonna have linke and go first. 00:41:18 Speaker 1: Let's let's have you all. Can you all fish at once? 00:41:20 Speaker 3: Pat? 00:41:21 Speaker 2: Can? 00:41:21 Speaker 1: Can we do all three of you in that one minute? 00:41:24 Speaker 6: We can do them all at once? 00:41:25 Speaker 1: Okay, there's gonna be a little chaos and the lund. 00:41:28 Speaker 6: Yep, let me get mine. You got quick spencer? 00:41:32 Speaker 1: Okay? Pat is reapplying a night crawler seth Lake Vermilion? Ever been there? 00:41:42 Speaker 2: Never been? But it's definitely one I want to visit. I've heard lots of good things about. 00:41:47 Speaker 1: Familion, just just that general part of Minnesota. 00:41:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, Pat, do they call you captain in that boat? 00:41:55 Speaker 6: They call me a lot worse? 00:41:59 Speaker 1: Okay, Pat is everybody? 00:42:00 Speaker 2: Are you ready? 00:42:01 Speaker 5: Okay? 00:42:01 Speaker 6: Late and you're ready? Okay, Laten you go first lake casts? 00:42:10 Speaker 1: All right, grandson has made his cast. Pat has made his cast. There one minute has begun. Pat, Are we just running slip bobbers? 00:42:24 Speaker 6: Sorry? 00:42:24 Speaker 1: Are we just running slip bobbers? 00:42:27 Speaker 6: There on. 00:42:32 Speaker 2: The wind? Is? 00:42:33 Speaker 1: We're losing Pat's audio? 00:42:38 Speaker 2: So he got one? 00:42:40 Speaker 1: Is he really one? 00:42:41 Speaker 3: In. 00:42:45 Speaker 1: Pat Durkin the only angler to be successful twice at one minute fishing both times was that a yellow perch. 00:42:54 Speaker 6: This one's a smaller, but he's okay. 00:42:58 Speaker 1: And both times Pat has been successful. He's done it with a yellow perch. Once in Idaho and now once in Minnesota. 00:43:05 Speaker 3: Well done, Pat, Captain Pat Dirkin, you bet that's awesome. 00:43:10 Speaker 1: In the old land, in the land in Lake Vermillion, he's just won a five hundred dollars donation to Sturgeon for Tomorrow. Pat, you were really stoked to make a donation to Sturgeon for Tomorrow. Tell us about them. 00:43:25 Speaker 9: Yeah, this goes back in my in my first one. It's a little bit Spencer and I was a young reporter back in the nineteen eighties, a group called a group of local fishermen in the Lake Winnebago area which is oshcost, Wisconsin. That region, they wanted to get more involved in the science aspect of sturgeon management, and they formed this group called Sturgeon for Tomorrow and they've been running now close to forty forty years or so. And every spring they helped organize what's called Sturgeon Patroll and they put guys on the Wolf River with a certain spawn and make sure they don't get poached. They used to be a real bad poaching problem in that in that region. Back and all the way through the early eighties, I used to do newspaper stake cufs basically right, ride a lot of wardens and spend the night watching for poaching it on. 00:44:20 Speaker 6: That Wolf River. But these guys, that's one of the one of the very very many projects they get involved in. 00:44:27 Speaker 1: Well you just saved a few more surgeon with that five hundred dollars donation. Well done. The legend of Pat Dirkin in one minute fishing grows. 00:44:36 Speaker 6: Well, thanks you guys, Thanks for joining us. 00:44:38 Speaker 1: Pat, Pat, good luck with the rest of the week. High fives all around in the boat. I'm tickled. 00:44:44 Speaker 2: That was great. 00:44:45 Speaker 1: That was fun. 00:44:46 Speaker 3: He should just be on every week. Then we have people that catch fish. Pat. 00:44:51 Speaker 1: Pat is great because he's obviously a retired fella. I could text him on a Wednesday and be like, Pat, we need someone for one minute fishing Tomorrow's like okay, I'm in yep. So you'll see a lot more of Pat Dirk and on media radios. 00:45:04 Speaker 2: One minute fishing. 00:45:07 Speaker 1: All right, Moving on our next segment is the Price is Right. 00:45:12 Speaker 2: Here. 00:45:13 Speaker 4: It comes from Bozeman, Montana Media Radio's most exciting ten minutes. 00:45:18 Speaker 3: It's the Price is Right. 00:45:21 Speaker 4: Morris, come on down Anderson come on down. The next two contestants on media radios. The Price is Right Now, here's your host, Spencer newh. 00:45:38 Speaker 1: Wow, thank you Phil. He brings it every single impressively. 00:45:42 Speaker 2: He just does that. You know, let's not free. 00:45:44 Speaker 3: Recorded or nothing. 00:45:44 Speaker 1: No, no, that's that's live Phil in the studio. Now, this game is really simple. Phil is going to tell you about a product from the med Eater universe, and you need to guess its price. The player with the closest answer without going over will be declared the winner. If both players go over, then you'll both be told to try again, and the chat should play along as well, because whoever has the closest answer to the correct answer, we'll get a shout out. And none of them are going to cheat. They have all vowed to be very honest. 00:46:13 Speaker 3: How many of these are we doing? Just one? 00:46:15 Speaker 1: Three of them? We've got three of them. There are three products today. Have either of you boys played mediate Radius prices right before? 00:46:21 Speaker 2: Nope, I did. I played once in. 00:46:22 Speaker 1: One Okay, we've got the veteran seth here then bringing all that experience. 00:46:27 Speaker 3: What's surprised? What are we playing for? 00:46:29 Speaker 1: We'll find out in a second. Phil tell us about the first item up forbid. 00:46:35 Speaker 8: Our first item today is a guided nil Guy and whitetail hunt on the famous King Ranch in Texas. Here's your chance to hunt one of the largest pieces of private land in the world. At eight hundred and twenty five thousand acres, the King Ranch is bigger than Rhode Island. This property is home to eighteen thousand nil Guy, which got their start on the King Ranch after a stocking from the San Diego Zoological Garden a century ago. The package includes a nil Guy bowland, a management white tail buck that's guaranteed to score between one hundred and thirty and one hundred and forty inches. You'll also get two nights lodging at the King Ranch, but meals are not included. 00:47:07 Speaker 1: That's right, Phil, But keep in mind it's a four hunter minimum, so you better have three buddies with deep pockets just like you. 00:47:14 Speaker 3: So we got a four hundred price. 00:47:16 Speaker 1: We're just gonna do for one hunter, one hunter price, and this gets you a nilghai bull, a management buck that they say will be an eight or nine pointer that is over five and a half years old and will score between one hundred and thirty one hundred and thirty and one hundred forty inches. And you have two nights at the King Ranch, but. 00:47:36 Speaker 3: Two nights three days a hunt or something like. 00:47:38 Speaker 1: I think I think it's two full days. They are very efficient. 00:47:41 Speaker 3: I guess on the King. 00:47:43 Speaker 2: Right, I killed a white tail buck about eighty yards from the King Ranch border that they might have been. 00:47:48 Speaker 1: Living on the King Ranch. You killed yourself? Was it a high fence? There? Was it a litw low fence? Low fence? Yeah, you don't even need a high fence when you own Rhode Island. 00:47:57 Speaker 3: Oh, I know, it's a lot of can't fathom. 00:48:00 Speaker 2: I'd like to say that that buck was living on the King Ranch and I got to get that one for freaking. 00:48:05 Speaker 1: Ranch buck again. The package is a guided hunt for a bull nil guy, a one hundred and thirty five inch white tail, and two nights of lodging at the famous King Ranch in Texas. And remember you cannot go over. If both of you go over, you'll both be told to try again. Seth Are you ready, I'm ready, Brody, are you ready? Okay, making a small change to his answer for one person to go to the King ranch and kill themselves a nil guy and a white tail. All right, go ahead and reveal your answers. We have st saying ten thousand, five hundred, Brody saying eight thousand, nine hundred. The correct answer is lower than both of those, so you'll both need to try again. We know it is less than eight thousand, nine hundred. They are revisiting their whiteboards and coming up with a new answer. Brody, very quick, seth are you ready reveal your answers? We have set saying six thousand, three hundred fifty dollars. Brody says six thousand, nine hundred dollars. Ooh, the correct answer is eight thousand, five hundred dollars, giving Brody that first point he was only four hundred dollars off with his first guest. Now, a nilguy cow hunt is four thousand, four hundred, a combo dove hunt and saltwater fishing trip is two thousand, four hundred, and I've got redfish two hundred from the King rancher. 00:49:41 Speaker 3: Right off the bank of the King. Well like casting towards the back king. 00:49:45 Speaker 1: Okay, so you boys are very familiar. 00:49:49 Speaker 2: Phil. 00:49:49 Speaker 1: How'd the chat do? 00:49:50 Speaker 5: Uh? 00:49:51 Speaker 8: Well, we had several people getting right on the money. I convinced they cheated. Unfortunately, I just I don't trust anybody but bull site archery. Guess eight grand. So I'm gonna give him. I'm gonna give him the point. 00:50:01 Speaker 1: Well points, full side archery. That just goes to show if you're gonna cheat, you can't cheat right on the money. 00:50:07 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, exactly, You're gonna have to fool me U. 00:50:11 Speaker 1: And we can still see Pat Dirk and fishing. He's still in our waiting room there. Yeah, we're watching some fancy camera work. Now, looks like the boat is moving around all right. Well, maybe check in Pat later. Pil tell us about the second item forbid? 00:50:29 Speaker 8: Yeah, sorry, stopping all the things. Next up, we have the one hundred two piece Deluxe Pro Kit from Banjo Minnow. But hold on, I'm gonna pause this video because I can't do this Lord Justice. But do you know what can This two minute infomercial from nineteen ninety four, Please get your credit cards ready, just is amazing. 00:50:50 Speaker 10: There's only one fishing lure proven to catch all these fish, every species of game fish in North America. It's the Banjo minow, the world first and only genetic response fishing lure. 00:51:00 Speaker 3: Hello, everybody there. 00:51:02 Speaker 10: Is the man banjoe memo is true. The most exciting thing I've seen in a mighty long time predator fisher genetically progred too a jack and eat crippled dying meadows. Banjoe middle perfectly mimics the spastic action of a wounded middle, a movement so realistic and so irresistible to predator fish that it could actually trigger a genetic response. 00:51:27 Speaker 2: All that wild m anything. 00:51:34 Speaker 10: Has proved itself again and again and again. They didn't willow fish every fishing lure in bows. We had made a fishing lore that actually made fish fight, even if they weren't hungry. 00:51:47 Speaker 1: A genetic response everywhere you want to fish fish talk. 00:51:53 Speaker 2: It's just unbelievable. 00:51:55 Speaker 6: There going hal to Ola, it was really impressive. 00:51:58 Speaker 8: There won't be a fish left in the Wow. 00:52:00 Speaker 10: Banjo Meadows, unique patent pending rubber made guard. Let's every fisherman fish anywhere by you need that on top of docs right where the big ones are. 00:52:12 Speaker 2: Came up to the complete a getting. 00:52:18 Speaker 10: And four colors, banjo weedless bait, hooks, counterbalanced jigs, and much much more. All yours for only twenty nine to ninety five or faster service. Have your credit card ready and call. 00:52:29 Speaker 8: The number of day count for inflation is phenomenal. 00:52:33 Speaker 1: Now you're probably wondering who on earth would fall for such ridiculous marketing. Well me, I would when I was in middle school. I now present to you to banjo minnows from my arsenal tackle box, and I can attest that these have tricked dozens of large mouth in the forty acre lake near my hometown. Uh Now, the price that you are guessing today is for a banjo minnow set in twenty twenty five. That they are still around, and they offer a one hundred two piece starter kit sold on banjomino dot com. It comes with twenty four banjo minnows, thirty zero rings, twenty four wed guards, twelve nose anchors and twelve hooks. Now, look at that one. This is a new swim bait design. I have the og. These are way more desirable. Look it's got the ribs and them very thin. The new ones in twenty twenty five look much different. They don't look anything like a banjo minnow. Now look at this thing. It's dang, you're jumping out of my hand. Banjo minnow? 00:53:29 Speaker 3: What's what the hole I'm going to buy some of these? 00:53:31 Speaker 1: Well, that's where the nose jig goes. I think that's what they call it. What do they call that thing? Nose anchor? You put his nose anchor through there, and then that's got a little piece where you can slide your hook through, and so your hook isn't even touching any of the soft plastic. 00:53:46 Speaker 3: So same thing. 00:53:48 Speaker 1: Today's price, Well, we know that in nineteen ninety four it was twenty nine to ninety five for a one hundred and ten piece kit, But you guys are guessing the price of a one hundred two two piece kit that banjo minnow is still selling. Wow, Phil, can we get it? Can we get a just me on the camera? 00:54:06 Speaker 2: Here? 00:54:06 Speaker 1: Show these things? Look at that action. My goodness, fish are genetically wired to eat these things. They just can't resist. The one fella from the infomercial said they should be illegal, but there's gonna be no fish left in North America. Here's what I'll do. Whoever wins today's game, I'll give you one of my banjo minnows, and then I expect you to catch. 00:54:26 Speaker 2: Something on that. 00:54:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, you could probably catch the first fish ever that bit a banjo minnow in Alaska. You should take one of these to Alaska. What would you What would you catch with this quillback? Please? I would be I would be so pleased if you took one of these to Alaska and caught something. 00:54:45 Speaker 3: If there was silvers, like at the mouth of a creek, they might eat one of those things, greenling, lot of stuff. 00:54:52 Speaker 2: Okay, if you drop that thing down on a shallow hump, then like fort water, you'll have something instantly. 00:54:58 Speaker 3: The problem is it's all so gonna get bit off. 00:55:01 Speaker 1: Yes, you might get one fish to bite on this, and then the lure is just shot. All right, Do you have your price for the twenty twenty five one hundred and ten piece kit? YEP, one hundred two piece kit. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Brody saying thirty nine to ninety five set saying fifty nine ninety five. The correct answer is fifty nine to ninety nine set four cents. That's probably the closest we've ever had someone get to the correct answer. I'm going to buy some for the prices, right, but I don't think you want the new ones. Those new ones just like any They look like any swim bait at bastard. 00:55:42 Speaker 2: Little articulating cuts in there. 00:55:44 Speaker 1: That's right, I think. So all right, we're onto our final item for today. 00:55:48 Speaker 2: Just really quick. 00:55:49 Speaker 8: I want to throw out there that that Keith said three easy payments of nineteen ninety five, and I think he's accuracy and creativity. I think he deserves some flowers there. 00:55:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gets your credit ready. They delivered that line twice in the infomercial. Make sure when you call if you're gonna get the banjo minow, you have your credit card in your hand. 00:56:08 Speaker 8: They don't have any time to waste. 00:56:11 Speaker 1: Art phil third and final item. We are tied one to one. 00:56:16 Speaker 8: Our final item up for bid today is a whole salmon from Seattle's world famous Pike Place Fish Market Cheese, known for their flying fish, they'll actually fly one right to your front door. Oh, This twelve pound wildcot chinook comes fresh out of the Pacific Ocean and it's Pike Place's number one seller. You can choose to have it sent hole with the head and fins attached, or have their expert fishmongers turn it into filets and steaks for you. 00:56:38 Speaker 1: That's right, Phil, And they guarantee that if we ordered before noon today, it will arrive on Friday. All right, Seth and Brady twelve pounds, Phil, twelve pounds. What does it cost to get a whole king salmon? Ships seven hundred miles to meat eater HQ, So you're guessing the price of the fish as well as what it costs to ship it. Here a twelve pound king salmon from the Pipe Place fish market. This will determine who gets the banjo minnow between at all. 00:57:12 Speaker 2: I never buy fish from a store, so I don't even have a clue. 00:57:16 Speaker 1: Phil. Have you ever bought anything from Pipe Place? 00:57:19 Speaker 8: I have not, No whenever. I've only gone there a couple of times, and I just try to get get just walk through as fast as possible, don't make eye contacts, keep moving. 00:57:27 Speaker 1: I like the busyness of it. That's like why I would want to be there, is to like feel the hustle and bustle of Pipe Place. 00:57:34 Speaker 3: Now, Phil, does it say? Uh? No, I probably won't. 00:57:40 Speaker 2: What are you looking for? 00:57:41 Speaker 3: Wilder Hatchery? 00:57:43 Speaker 1: It says wild wild cot. They are adamant it is wildcot comes out of the Pacific. 00:57:47 Speaker 3: Well, there's like wild kings, and then there's the ones they raise up for a little whileties and cut them loose. 00:57:53 Speaker 1: They say wild cought. They don't say anything about where it was raised at though. So again, it's a twelve pound salmon ship seven miles. 00:58:01 Speaker 3: I'm just like that in Alaska. The kids got them. 00:58:04 Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna find out what they're worth. 00:58:05 Speaker 2: Oh, I was ready. 00:58:06 Speaker 3: I have a pretty good idea. 00:58:08 Speaker 1: Are you ready? 00:58:08 Speaker 3: As my kid figured it out. 00:58:09 Speaker 1: Sure, go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Brody saying four hundred and twenty dollars, our Seth saying one hundred forty five dollars. The correct answer is five hundred two dollars. That's four hundred and thirty two dollars for the fish and seventy dollars for shipping. That comes out to a whopping forty two dollars per pound. 00:58:34 Speaker 2: Geez. 00:58:35 Speaker 1: That's why I thought them salmon. They ain't cheap. 00:58:38 Speaker 3: Well, the kings, because they got the highest they're like highest fat content. It wouldn't be that much for a silver. 00:58:45 Speaker 1: Well done, Brody only eighty dollars off. The correct answer again five hundred two dollars. How the chat do feel? 00:58:52 Speaker 2: Chat Way? 00:58:53 Speaker 8: I mean most of them were in like the fifty dollars range on average. We had Mike at the near the end coming with four to twenty, just like just like Brody did. 00:59:01 Speaker 1: Thanks for playing along, and remember to help control the pet population. Have your pets spade and neutered and you might just win yourself a banjo Minnow. All right, that brings us to the end of this week's show, Phil, Let's get some final feedback from the chat. 00:59:14 Speaker 8: Yeah, last call for questions, Greg says Brody, what hat are you wearing? 00:59:19 Speaker 3: A magpool? 00:59:21 Speaker 8: Perfect? David asks any waltenned recommendations for a December hunt in Pennsylvania Montana canvas? 00:59:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, Montana canvas yep. 00:59:34 Speaker 2: Cool. 00:59:36 Speaker 8: Back to we were doing gear talk, Spicy Nacha sent in this, Now, what are y'all thoughts on the non cameo pants. He's always been a full camo guy and was wondering if you've ever had any issues being half a blob if. 00:59:46 Speaker 1: You're sitting in a tree stand and trying to kill a white tail buck at eleven yards, I'd probably be wearing camel pants. If you are trying to kill a very smart turkey at fifteen yards, probably wear camel pants. Besides, is that it's not going to be the thing that. 01:00:03 Speaker 3: Camo raiders or Camo pants like. I'm gonna disagree slightly with Spencer on on at least the turkey thing. I've killed plenty of turkeys wearing solid tan or solid green pants. If you're if you're still it's I don't think it's as big of a deal as long as you got Camo uppers and you're just snug down to the ground tight. 01:00:27 Speaker 2: Yeah. I I've killed a lot of Merriams in solid pants. If I was hunting Easterns back in Pennsylvania somewhere where they're real pressure, that would go full Camo for sure. 01:00:41 Speaker 8: Randall says, Shout out Phil, Shout out Radio Life crew man. 01:00:44 Speaker 2: Thanks. 01:00:46 Speaker 1: Randall likes this show so much we have to kick him out of the studio before we turn on the microphones. He he was in here right up until the countdown clock started. 01:00:54 Speaker 2: The studio is basically Randall's office. 01:00:57 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:00:57 Speaker 8: Lately, Dalton got the King Ranch hunt right on the money, and has commented several times about how he's mad at me because I accused him of cheating. 01:01:07 Speaker 1: Do we trust him? 01:01:08 Speaker 8: Not at all? 01:01:09 Speaker 2: No? 01:01:09 Speaker 8: Oh no, sorry, he needs to come here by by a ticket to Bozeman and present your case in person, and maybe I will hear it. He might do that, Phil I say that, Oh yeah, no, just shoot me Instagram deum. 01:01:24 Speaker 2: Let's see. 01:01:25 Speaker 8: This is another one of those general questions that usually don't play very well because it's sort of like, I'm going to Colorado to hunt any tips, but you know, he's got some other stuff that's deep in here. Max says, I'm at a seur hour seven of his eighteen hour drive to Utah for a mewly archery hunt any tips or suggestions for success? But he follows that up with are there any previous media or podcasts that focus on newly hunting to add my binge list? I wish I could pull up some podcast episodes from the recesses of my brain, but I'm sure there are some of you search in whatever platform that you use for podcasting. 01:02:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, go check out what was formerly Cutting the Distance. Remy Warren used to host that show, and I'm sure he had all sorts of good mule deer tips and tricks than Jason Phelps and Dirk. I'm sure they have some good muley tips as well. And that is now the in Pursuit channel with Rich Fronning. What do you got, Brody? 01:02:22 Speaker 3: Oh, I was just gonna say you probably within the like the general other than cutting the distance, like, probably not a lot of archery mule deer stuff that I can remember. Can you think of anything? So if you want to watch Steve and Joe Rogan archery Hunt mule Deer, there's a good episode on that, but I can't think of anything. 01:02:42 Speaker 2: That's one thing I've never really done hunt mule deer with the bow. I've done it a couple of times in Montana. 01:02:48 Speaker 3: It'd be fun up above tree line up real high this time. 01:02:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be a wicked fun hunt. 01:02:54 Speaker 1: Do a couple more. 01:02:55 Speaker 8: Phil Devin says, Hey, what cartridge are you guys using this upcoming season. It's a pretty big question. Kind of depends on what you're going at. 01:03:05 Speaker 2: Seven millimere prc same. 01:03:08 Speaker 1: That is probably what I will do eighty percent of my hunting with this year. And I have a gun tag in Illinois where for the first time I will be using a straight walk cartridge, and I think it'll be a three fifty legend. Still deciding, Sweet Brody. 01:03:23 Speaker 3: It depends on the hunt. I'll be using a six' FIVE, prc which is a great, one then maybe shooting a six y five Creed more a little bit that my kids will be. Using BUT i might use that gun a little bit. 01:03:36 Speaker 1: Too one, More. 01:03:38 Speaker 8: Phil nate, says When steve shows up in the, office does work grind to a halt or is that the only time anything gets? DONE i could see him producing either. Outcome i'd say it depends on whether or not he breaks the harpoon. 01:03:48 Speaker 1: Out, Yeah seth is the only one on the same floor as, HIM i Guess phil as. Well do you notice When steve's? 01:03:55 Speaker 8: AROUND i personally have no idea what he's hearing when he's not. 01:03:59 Speaker 3: Here When, Steve i'll give him. Credit When steve's, here he's like here for a, reason and he's working. 01:04:04 Speaker 2: On something that's. TRUE i. KNOW i like to try to sneak into his office and like bug him about, stuff like just talking about anything other than, work and he's usually, like what do you? Need LIKE i just want to talk fishing or. 01:04:17 Speaker 1: Something All, RIGHT a few plugs before we get out of. Here The mediat crew is hitting the road again this, fall visiting some of our favorite fan bases that will be playing, games giving away, prizes and showing off how the Med Eater crew. Tailgates that is The Meat Eater Tailgate. Tour it's. Returning come join our, tailgate eat some, food hang out with the, crew and we'll see you AT i think we have six Stops august, Thirtieth Ohio, State september, Sixth, Missouri september, Thirteenth Texas september, Twentieth, Wisconsin september twenty, Seventh Penn, state And october, Fourth Notre. 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Mogor he's PROBABLY i don't think he's missed a. Show he's like our number one, fan all. 01:05:41 Speaker 1: Right thanks for, Watching thanks for. Listening see you back here next, week same, time place by now