00:00:08 Speaker 1: This is me eater podcast coming at you shirtless, severely bug bitten in my case, underwear listening podcast. You can't predict anything presented by on X. Hunt creators are the most comprehensive digital mapping system for hunters. Download the Hunt app from the iTunes or Google play store. Nor where you stand with on X. I'll tell you what I think Rick lies about what now that we're recording Rick uh Rick here says that when we kind of like pitch them sell them so to to female listeners, that it doesn't work. No, I think it does work. I think that heat may be uh seal the deal. No, you know it works on r end, it doesn't work. Yeah, you guys are doing everything you can. I just have a real hard time believe in it that we could say here on this show, like here's this guy Rick, nice guy, drone enthusiast um, drone pilot, and then say that that he's open to all comers, all female. No, No, that's not the right words. He's opened U, he's opened up. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure. About about five minutes before we started this podcastment, I think I said, ah, let's not talk about that. No, No, no, no, no, no, but you said it in a way. We're like. I was like, Rick, we're gonna talk about You're like, okay, I'm cool. He said that he knew that we would. Ye, he's he was just saying that because so nothing trickles in. No. I get some uh, I don't know. I get a few Instagram mess just and then what do you how do you vet them? I mean there's not a lot of vetting. Maybe every most mostly don't respond. Are you on any dating um applications right now? Rick Smith? Yeah? But I mean how many Like I don't like that. I mean, how many Rick Smiths could be running around a lot? Oh, dude, there's probably like a dozen in Bozeman. Richard Smith's really pretty common name. Yeah, so people can't go find that. You know what probably has happening now, I think about I just getting lost in the I think there's so many Rick Smiths that we we plugged you. I don't say, you know any nice enough guy, and uh, the women all come to find you, but they want up marrying other ricks other Ricks Smith. That's probably that's probably what happens. Well, eventually all those Rick Smiths will be married. They'll be like, there's gotta be a single Rick Smith out there somewhere and they'll find you. Yeah. Seth likes this line aquory as much as Steve does, which is saying a lot because this is Steve's favorite thing, you know, because here's the thing, man, here's the thing. I've been married a long time, so when I got married, there was no When I was like single and dating, there were no uh applications an dating apps. You had to go like talk to talk to him, you had to go down to the bar, so you couldn't just sit there, you know, and be flicking through people. So I'm interested, and I'm very interested in people who are having this experience that I was never able to live. Yeah, I mean, I think it's not as cracked up as people, you know, people that are in committed relationships that look look back and be like, oh, I wish there was a digital dating app when I was dating. I think it's I think it's not that helpful, creates laziness. Yeah, it's just a weird. It's hard to tell from a picture like how people are, like whether you're attracted to them or not, So you end up going what there's a lot about a person that doesn't come through on a photo that is instantly uh, like you're aware of it when you meet the person in like a real stety. Yeah, you know. I don't know that this conversation is gonna be interesting, um to our listeners. But I'm sure I really do not agree. I could tell pretty much everything I need to know, well, because I look at what they're doing. No, but it's all curated. I look into their I look into their eyes, and I can tell you you can do the whole thing if I was on there, and uh, you can be well no, I mean, let's just say for I mean, for me, heaven forbid, I had let's just say factors in life led me to have to go beyond there. I would look at the pictures and I'd be like, oh, this person's fishing, and um, I'm like, oh, you know, I'm attracted to him. But then that was the only picture that I'm fishing because I would I would look and I'd be like, I can tell they really like to fish. They seem like a nice person. That's that's very possible. And maybe like my god, that girl's got split shot underneath your lip, she keeps her wax burns in her lip. I know, click, i'd swipe. Yeah, what do you do when you want them? You sleep right left? You don't even know? Yeah, I mean, I'm done talking about aren't you guests night? How did you guys meet your wives? Normal? Yeah? I kind of regret that I didn't. You know, see, have any of those dating apps right away? You were around? They were part of your generation. Like I eight, I already knew her, Like when I was I don't know, nineteen, I met her, But you still weren't. You didn't You weren't participating in the tinder to know, and like right after we started dating, Tinder came out. I'm not gonna lie, it was a little tempted to just make one to check it out. But you met your wife at nineteen? What being in college? She's from the farming ranch world? No? No, and you met her in college stuck with her? How long you been married? Four years? Now? Is it going good? Oh? Yeah, it's great? Has she threatened? She got mad at you and acted like she doesn't want to be married anymore? Dated from nineteen to twenty four. I guess that seems like a reasonable nount of time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Sorry, about your name, Danny Morrison married four years. Yes, sir Sean, you bet Sean Weaver, just married, just married. Married into the farm and ranch community. Married into the farming ranch community four months ago. Dream dream we were creative company. That's your company, that's right, travel around doing video stuff. Did you marry um? Did you marry her just because of the land. Now, I always say that I'm the guy that everybody hates because he played way above his pay grade, meaning like if I knew you and hung out with you, I would. I would, That's all there is to it. I'd be like, oh, he'd probably know. Then I'd meet your wife. And I think that there was a mistake. Yeah, definitely, I still think there is. She should have swiped left or yeah? What uh to everybody? Where you guys live. I live in Volga, South Dakota, which is by Brooking, South Dakota. And I live in Britain, South Dakota. And you guys met in college in a real trashy rental house. Yeah. I liked some of the stories you're talking about that you uh, good South Dakota story. Do you live with two muskrat trappers? Can we talk about this? Live with two muskrat trappers. One was a big weed smoker yep, and one didn't like the smoke weed. But they like to trap muskrats together. Yep. That's interesting. That's a team. It's a good premise of a little film. And they didn't just like casually trapped muskrats. It was like all day every day. You said they stacked them up. Oh yeah, they had like five deep freezers going with muskrats. Did they get You said they got about eight hundred? Yeah, that winner I think and nose are in that little mini muskrat boom that was a few years ago when price is shot up. Uh, my buddies tell me, like, what are you saying? They were getting like eight or nine. My buddy was saying, like muskrats out of Horroric on Marsh, he was getting like eighteen for big big rats. I believe it. It was crazy. I mean our one roommate like went and bought a brand new mud boat with a fancy you know, surface to drive motor and all that off muskrat money really set him up. Oh yeah, Now he bought it to go get more muskrats, or he bought it, well, he bought it with muskrat money and used it to go get more muskrats. Can we talk about what later happened to him? Oh he became paranoid? Wow? Or no? I mean yeah, okay a little bit. He thought it brought up a question we brought up here before, just the foundation of the paranoid Well, it just it brings up this interesting thing. Uh. Do people to smoke a lot of weed like I us think that's smoking a lot of weed aide you paranoid? Like it made you think the government was doing stuff to you or whatever, where there's aliens hanging around whatever. It's all the things that weed smokers like to do it with their time. Uh. But my brother one day brought up He's like, no, I just think that there's the same kind of guy that likes to think about aliens and likes to think the government's out to get them. Um, likes to smoke weed. He could have gone both ways on that deal. Hard to know. It's like, you know a lot of people I think like all the both. Yeah, he's like, no, I like to think about aliens, I like to think that the government's out to get me, and I like the smoke weed. And that's but I wonder if if it's if if it causes it. Smoking a lot makes you like alien. I think there's probably a level of weed you can smoke to actually get paranoidal, absolutely right, it's like or to get it to become an alien enthusia Oh yeah, maybe you were just nailing enthusiasts and then you smoked a lot of weed and became a professional. Yeah, someone will probably send in because we didn't. You know, I've been talking like I I got throw in a quick correction that uh, A listener sent in a study that proves that, um, gluten intolerance is not in fact a partisan ailment. M M. I'd always thought it was a thing that strikes people on the left, which maybe always think it was a weird sickness, like how many sicknesses are just well, maybe they're just more vocal about it. Yeah, yeah, But in fact, gluten intolerance can, in fact does, in fact strike both side left hand right, because it's a real thing. They actually did a study on this. Yeah, they asked people like you know whatever, you you know, ask them about their politics and asked if they had gluten intolerance. And it turns out the right wing people can get gluten intolerance. I just say they keep quiet about it. That's because they don't want to admit that they have some sort of you know, because it's viewed as a partisan condition. When I hear it, I'm like, oh, disappointed about Hillary Clinton, all right. I just I just know, like gluten intolerant. I'm like, oh, I don't know a place like Italy, which they're all about their wheat and they have like a whole gluten free deal, because people really are gluten gluten in tolerant. I'm pointing out. I don't want to dwell on it. I'm just pointing out the place whereus wrong. And I just wanted to clarify to connect. Correction. Uh, no, one, move on. Are you blowing your two toes off with the shotgun? Right? Tell us about that. Yeah, So me and a few buddies were out hunting geese and a wheat field and uh and we were in a layout blind uh kind of a deal. And wait, you were in your own or you were all we're not. We're playing that game where you try to see how many people. Okay, so out blind is a coffin? Think of like a coffin with doors with doors, right, um and uh. The doors open basically like your chest from the tip of your head to the in between your toes is bisected and you erupt from this coffin in like a semi laying position. And the bat there's a little bit of backrest that could you a little bit of pitch because if you have some powerful abs and you're used to doing sit ups, there's no problem. But if you have unpowerful abs, you can just be stuck. You can just be stuck. I've seen that springboards where you pull a lever up. I got one. Yeah, it's an old man when he comes up because he used to always be way behind. Be like, dang it, Daniel, we gotta we gotta get a new blind. I wish made one that spring and I see one and I'm like, oh, the lord of that for him. So, yeah, you did a great job, but we should probably set the stage a little bit where explain the situation where you used a layout blind whichever you guys want. So, yeah, you're out scouting for geese. You see him in a wheat field eating. We're gonna go out there and put some field decoys out and then lay it out of cover. Yeah, yeah, which means you can't right. Well, sometimes use it when there is cover, like on a fence line or something like that, or in like a kosher patch. That's pretty effective too. But let's say you're out on the wheat field and there's nothing to hide in and this scenario there wasn't. We took the straw gathered up kind of fill in. They got this little straps on the side, and you just, yeah, you make it look like maybe you're like a little hill. Your blinds are you try to have a gradual like a graduate. Yeah, you don't want to hard anything, so you might brush in the edges and stuff anyway. So uh, and then the birds come in and they get real clothes, their feet come out, and I knows you guys call them their boots down to the boot bags. And then you go take get them, take them, shoot them, kill him whatever, and everybody pops up. Grandpa throws the spring on this thing. Is that like a push button? How does that work? It's like a lever? You yang? Yeah, the spring shoots you up. So now you don't even need to have Now you don't need to be able to do any sit ups at all, and you can still hunt goose up doesn't need to be calibrated. I'm really worried about him. Did Grandpa end up on his heels a couple of times? Daniel whind that thing down a little bit, just coming a little hot. So there you are, you're lay outbline, you blow your toes off. Well, let's not we're jumping ahead here. So a group of geese coming in with a few buddies and uh, it's probably like twenties strong. And you know, I'm just getting named up. It was my first year in South Dakota. I was like, oh, yeah, man, never really hunted geese much Louisiana Northwest Corner. Yeah, anyway, geese are coming. So you rested you a lot of hunting and fishing down there. Yeah, you grew up with it. Ye, a lot with my grandpa and my dad. Your grandpa's still down there and Oklahoma's where he lives and he lived there at the time. Did you guys go down south catch crayfish much? No? But I did work for a crawfish catering company. We boiled up crawfish and no it's not. But we've received bags and then cut up your arms when you handle them and all this stuff. You guys hunt ducks down there all the time. Did you fish car a little bit with a ski rope? Just red fish and whatnot a little bit, not much because it was like six hours away, so none of the coastal activities somewhere. No, not really. Do you guys get fish, catfish? Oh yeah, flatheads, channels, blues, squirrels, a lot of jug lining squirrels. Absolutely. Rabbit still do rabbits, Yeah, with dogs. Rabbit that's what I want to do. Man, there you are, you blow your toes off. Alright, So laying there, geese are coming in, so the way fresh El Louisiana, all still pretty Southern accented, freaking out over geese coming in because I wasn't used to hunting candy geese anyway. So the way the gun lays, there's a bar in front, like in between probably about your knees, and then there's the feet in front of the bar, and so I had to shoot your feet, yeah though phoebe being mine and uh so you like rest your shotgun on there, and as the geese are coming, I slipped the safety off early. Yeah, it's getting ready and getting excited. They're about twenty yards away and then uh I I'll take him. Gun goes off as a start coming up and then I just boom, boom, shoot too all excited. Hold on minute, the gun goes off in the blind. So I thought in my head, I okay, you just don't. I didn't know what's going on. It was so excited about the geese blacking out. Still do it sometimes, especially with archery. That's just it's tough for me anyway. So these uh so, anyway, so I come up and then I shoot two geese and I'm like, something feels weird. You know, there's pressure. You're you're you're I want to dwell on this minute. You're so excited. The your gun goes off in not in the blind like the guns in the blind. Well, so barrels out of the blind. I lift my my the back end of the gun so I can vision this as the barrel, lift the back end, you know, gun goes off. Boom, So the tip of the barrel goes down towards in the blind, I mean, not aiming it out at the geese. And you were just well, I still got two left. I didn't got left, kept going. At what point did you realize that your toes were gone, well, I thank you, Seth. So, yeah, I feel today at night, I'm getting undressed for this, so I'm feeling a little pressure, a little heat, and I'm like, dude, something's wrong. So I look at my buddies and I then I realized what happened. Stand up, free out start running around on it, and I was like, dude, I don't. I remember saying like I don't. I think I just like kind of grazed him, like I think we can keep on because I was so excited to shoots. Oh. My buddies like, no, dude, you're you're you're there's a hole in your foot. So did you get any geese at the two shots shot? Yeah? I believe I doubled and my friends say I did. They did, but more probably had a sympathy than anything else. Yeah, whatever, that's a great story. That is my question. What I had tennis shoes because it was August early. That doesn't help. And my buddies always said, if you would have had steel toe boots, man, just fine, steel toe boots, I don't think you would. The thing with a Crimpton You're out there was sneakers. Yeah, but this was very noticeable. If it's sneakers. Oh yeah, like bottom blown out you say that sneaker, No I should have Let's see the shop. And so you only lost two on the table. Does your wife like this foot? She likes that foot. You got a good hunk of look at that. But how we explain? How does the big one? And yeah, we've got a good shot of this folks who are interesting? That interesting and uh, of course you can follow. You can sign it on Instagram. Let me let me just so no damage to the big toe. Yeah, we gotta make sure that the biggest toe in the group. And think, god, there was kicking the phone out of my way. Man, And she posted I can send you the surgical pictures too, please if you can spread those apart, I can get Steve's heading to clean the gap. I mean, he'lled up pretty nice. Were you married at the time? I was not. I like how they kind of man. I like how they're solely came back in towards each other. Lobster foot a little flaw there. So you got the middle ones, a lot of nicknames, three toes, eight toes. You ever get athletes foot on that foot? No, not really, just on the other one. Yeah, because the toes are tied together. I mean, it speaks very much too how close the foot was to the barrel, right, because how can it there was other toes aren't scratched at all, and it being other toes. I didn't know you punched the middle out of there, that's probably yeah. Yeah, I want to thought you'd whittle away at the edge. I didn't know you just blast the middle out of your toes. Yeah, this is missing your two front teeth of toes. Goofy if he was missing the edge toes? Yeah yeah, yeah, you probably walk a straight linestone. I'm just fine. So at what point did like the pain start? Man? About five minutes in the pounding and feel like every heart beat and where was all that toe pulp? You know there wasn't m It's kind of yeah vaporized, didn't vapor out there on a steel pellet somewhere it was? It was did you look around? Like like if I didn't look around, it was freaking out. If I took your two toes and a generous cut, because that's a generous cut, like it dug down in there. I took those two toes up when I put them in a blender and ground them up and flung them around you. They're damn sure, be puns a foot around this room. Yeah, you're probably right. So what happened to the toes? I'll sprayed all over the wheat somewhere. It look. I still have the blind that I used, and you can see the shot going in where it went in the boot bag and then coming out the other end. Any blood stains whose hunting spot was this? It is mine? Oh? Really? Okay, that's tell the land on what happened. You still still haunt that spot? H No, I haven't. I don't. I don't like to go back in that area. I was thinking. I was thinking, so it wasn't dan spot. That could have added to the hysteria, right, because you're new and excited to hunting geese, and if it's your spot that I got invited to and I just blew my toes off, I'd be like, oh my god, I'm never gonna get invited again. Oh that would go through my mind for sure. Man, we were going, You're like, well, yeah, I don't care if you it's my spot. We were going. We went with a guy that day who like, had never gone before. I don't think he's ever gone since. Imagine nothing trauma reducing the competition. So in a couple of minutes, it starts to throb in a nake and at first I I like that. You said that it felt like a pressure. Yeah, just pressure and heat, heat and pressure. So then my buddy goes and grabs are hunting van. But you still hopping around in your sneaker. I did right away, and then they were like, calmed down, lay down, pick it up. You took the sneaker off. You take the sneak off. Sneaker came off at the hospital. Yeah, that's because I wanted to do X rays. No, no, no, I don't don't know why didn't I take it off. Because we're prevented too. It's good to leave that stuff. Did you go into shock? Yeah? Oh yeah yeah really yeah? Wow? Did I remember my so my buddy just ripping out there. We had like this hunting van. Hunting van called it Philly. I don't know why we called it Philly, but it was a little philly. Yeah, it was a brown band anyway, rolled out there. Actually, funny story about this man. One time we were pretty tired heading out hunting, almost like falling asleep, tired, college, tired and uh out drinking uh night before, not too late, but or you were drunk when you blew your toes off. No, no, absolutely. Anyway, we were out in the van one morning and you know that scene from Tommy Boy when the hood, Well that happened to us. Everybody is about half asleep. I don't know the scene. Oh, so they're driving and the hood of the of there is it a van or what they have? It was a car, but you can just call it your van. And what happened and the wind catches the hood and it just slaps up against the winch. I bet in cars when that's happened. Yeah, yeah, scared the crab. But that was that was a side note. So yeah, I remember my buddy Tommy ripping out there to grab me, and that's that's about all I remember, like because I went after that until we got to the hospital. So did your hunting buddies were they? Did they help you in any way where you'll be in the van, because at that point I was just laying on the ground. Wow, were you crying and moaning or what I was moaning? I wouldn't say crying. Do do you like the moan? You're doing rick. You do it no because like and remember you're a young man from a tree report. Give us some Yeah, let me set your Louisiana used to work for a crawfish care. You have a roommate who's a two muskrat trafford roommates once mores weed one don't. And you are so excited to hunt, very excited, stoked, all your toes off. Now here comes shock sets in no moan how he would do it. I'm fictured he's going he's going on yeah, yea, but a little more twang from a little more, little more learning. So they run you down and the cops probably get involved because you can't shoot yourself. That's really That's who showed up, just asked me how it happened? All right, hunting accident, had to report it whatever, Oh, no place had to record it. Yeah. I thought any time like a any kind of something like that happens, it was police involved, No, I guess. But he but the game warden, what do you do? When he showed up, he just questioned, make make sure you get a plug in your gun, checking for wings on and then he said, son, how many geese did you get? Was he was the game warden sympathetic or what? Oh? Yeah, he felt horrible. He's interviewing me. Sorry, was the game warden sympathetic? Yeah? He felt horrible that he was even like talking to me about it right away because he knew there was no monkey business. Right. Probably happened to like seven am, and this was nine am by the time he was there already morning hunt. Yeah, did you feel like you did something irreversible like that you weren't gonna walk? Oh? Man, I was so worried. Oh really, yeah, worried about what not being able to walk? I didn't tell the severity in my head. I didn't know, Like, how did you tell what was going on down there? Or was it just kind of pulpy weird? Yeah, you could just see the like a straight hole through the shoe how many years ago? Ten hole through the shoe? Oh, and yeah, you didn't want it. There wasn't much blood though, which I thought was weird. Oh that is weird. And then uh, did they sedate you when you get there? The freaking called my parents to make sure that I like a yeah, you do not know. They called my parents to make sure I wasn't like allergic to morphine or whatever. And I was just like, give me the morphine right now, you know. And I did an X ray out morphine and that was extremely painful. Took the sock off and everything is without morphine. Yeah, just because they wanted that X ray right away. Just a flesh wound. Yeah. And did they did they entertain the idea of or was it just like flat out like they're gone. You just don't have them anymore. They're gonna make a fake one or anything. Not at all. So what's interesting is that top weird looking part is actually skinned from my toes. I didn't get a good look at the top the bottom view. I can show it to you later. I got the cow's photo. The skin they got, they got that skin. They got that skin on the top. They grafted it on there from uh my middle toe and the would be the like the pointer finger to the index toe. They borrowed some skin from the neighboring toe. Ye put it over the wound. But what had happened was the one that this toe, that index toe, I was just hanging there by a thread. So they cut that off right away. The other toe on impact the bone had blown out of that toe, so there's no bone in it, but they were trying to save it. Doctor comes in one day and he's like probably two days into surgeries and stuff. He's like, man, you don't want that thing hang hanging on stuff and yeah, you know, catching on corners. He's like, as well, just cutting off we can use it to graphic sure, Doc. Yeah, well, I was like, well what if I keep the toe in a jar? You mean I was thinking a jar like a necklace for sure, you know, from aldehy or whatever. And he was like, oh no, no, no, and mind you, this is why I'm while I'm on morphine still and whatever. He's like, oh no, no, tons of paperwork. You don't want to do that. And for some reason, one of my biggest regrets to this day is not having that toe in my possession. Oh yeah, man, i'd have It's part of me. It's just you know, waste. Yeah, i'd have it like a call in your where you put your bands and whatnot. I want to I woant to took it out and try to catch a walleye with it. Some drink with a toe. It's like a bar. There's a bar where people lose their toes to frostbite. And it's like a, well, I don't know what yeah really was. Yeah, this happens a lot people lose toes. To know, it's like one bar, like you show up to lose a toe. No, it's like it's a I don't know, it's at the end of the idea roun every space like a little Yeah. So, so I don't know what it is. It doesn't sound like you do. Know. This is never gonna mean if they do, and if we do lure him in, you're not gonna hold on him like this, Rick, You see, this is one we need Yanni. He's not hearing Google. Yeah, yeah, I forgot. Yeah, Yanni's still on assignment. So then I imagine, Yeah, there was like some physical therapy and stuff. And actually what's funny is when I met my wife, I would never take my socks off because I was so embarrassed about it at all. Oh yeah, here we go, even though a lot of people down information about my that's fine, right. Sour toe cocktail Dawson City. It's a tradition that an actual human toe that has been dehydrated and preserved and salt. He was a garnish or direct drink of your choice. Oh, how much that run a fella, it's the sour tail cocktail? How much? So so they have a human toe one or multiple Dawson Ukon territory and they'll they'll let you have the pleasure of having a drink with the toe in. It has to file a lot of paperwork. It's a it was a well, there's been multiple toes that have been used, but the first one was belonged to a minor and rum runner named to Louis. We had a frost bitten appendage. It was preserved in alcohol and then fifty years later Envy three brought it down to the bar, the Sowar Saloon and they put it started putting in drinks sour toe cocktail. So just yeah, no, you were I was on legacy. You were dead on, he verified himself. There you start dating your wife, then, yeah, I wouldn't take the socks off, did you? Did you know that? You were? Oh? So like she didn't know, so there are so you didn't tell her about it. And then it comes to be your wedding night. There you are in one stipa no, yeah, you get comfortable. So then she sees it and she'll discovered here foot's cold. No. Then she sees it and bless her art, she thought it was a deformity. And then she got worried that if we had kids one day that they would also have it. Then she asked me about it, and you have to be like, well, I can't guarantee you that they're not, so back up, back up. That's why you gotta tell the tree up front. You hide it from that sucks a metaphor start dating, or you hide it from. Then all of a sudden she sees it whatever however that happens. She gets a look at it, and there's that little crazy crab claw there. And you don't go like, oh yeah, I shout it off with a shotgun. You just be like, yep, it's my foot. That's the way it is. I just didn't talk about it. She like saw it when I I don't know, when I was putting shoes on or something. I don't know, and she wasn't like, good God. She didn't say anything for a little while. Then she brought it up. That's a good woman. She was a good woman. I like that. I mean, because you have to say, like, through the act of reproduction, our children are not likely to have this not exactly, but I cannot guarantee you that our children will not have this. They grew up to be goose hunters. There is the man if they black out, when twenty geese are locked up, blackout to start shooting random directions, shooting doubles and toes Well, that's a good argument for keeping your gunpoint in safe direction and for not taking your safety off fairly in the lamp line. I'm real strict about it now any time this morning, man, I I can't tell you how many times I told the safety quickly quickly. Well, yeah, but you're also in like a safe position, yeah, sitting there. What I'm saying that Like? I do it though, Yeah, it's hard not to. I don't throw it. If I'm using a shotgun with a with a tang safe on it, you know, like a film safe, I'll just usually throw it when I go to shoulder of the gun. But with a trigger guard safety, I'll click it ahead of time. It's really hard not to. But in a layoutline, I advise everyone not to. Yeah, for sure, got two doubles with three shells, Yeah, yeah, two doubles double on geese, double on toes um And how long it take the heel all up. I was hunting again like two weeks. Good for you, my buddy. Big shout out to my bud Tom Novak. He uh, he's always helping me, carrying decoys out, taking me hunting because you were a little limpy. Oh yeah, doctor got all mad at me for hunting all the time. And actually my mom came and stayed with me for a while when I was first. Did you do your mom came out and stayed with you because you shot your toes off just for a couple of weeks. What do you think about when I was going through physical therapy and stuff? Oh it was that serious. Did it feel funny walking around? Yeah? Oh, you can't lose a toe without doing physical It was really part of the foot. You're not a flip flop man, Absolutely not, my buddy, though I can tell by looking at you. On my twenty first birthday, my buddy made me one of those flip flop sandals and puttied to fake toes. You guys hang out with a good, good crew of guys. That's awesome. Physical therapy Huh? Do you still have those shoes with the whole on it? I don't. They're probably threw them with because the bio bio hazard. Yeah, thanks for Sharon. I can't think of any more to ask you about just now. Are you glad it happened or not glad to happen? I don't know. It's kind of part of my identity now. I'm lucky that it wasn't worse. Safer hunter now probably a lot safer hunter. And I'm mindful of other people in layout blinds, and that's something people need to remember. I'm trying to think of any good application for lying where you'd be like, um, I could count on my hands and feet, you know what. You know what my least favorite how many times I write and people's right ahead goes their their head goes to twenty, but you're talking about eighteen. Yeah, at least favorite ducks. At least favorite expression is shot yourself in the foot on that one. Hey, when guys say that to me, huh, all right, that's great, man. I mean, I'm not glad that it happened, but it's just really well, you know, uh, my father was shot in the foot by a shotgun. Yeah, and he he because of who shot him. My dad hid what happened and lied about what happened and had a hobble around on crutches, and they didn't tell anybody. Mm hmm. How severe was it he had? I think it was camera was like thirteen or he had a sigh. He had a huge foot, he had a size thirteen ft. But I feel like camer was like thirteen or twenty. Pellets are stuck in the um stuck in his foot? Really? Yea palets? No, he got it from a distance then, nope, point blank, point blank hunting rabbits guy was walking along. You know how you do thumb cock in your shotgun and releasing the hammer. Yeah, so he's one of his guys walking around fiddling around, cocking it, releasing it, cockingant, releasing it, just nervously thumb slip. Yeah, crazy Yeah. Right after this was right after the war, refer Wal War two. And he said that it always the irony of it that he uh made it all through World War two and never got scratched by a bullet and then came home and probably got shot in the foot. Yeah something, uh man, I want to talk about duck hunting a little bit. Call tell everybody about our duck hunt. Um well, I guess as far as like duck hunting goes. It's just very good duck hunting. There's a lot of birds around. Good as it could be. I mean, I mean, I I really think so. I mean, you could, I guess, be in a situation where you go bay, wait wait, wait, right, and everybody's got their limits really fast, and you're at the coffee shop at seven in the morning or something like that. But um ours are taking a little bit longer here in two days. But it's I mean, you're never in that situation where you're really feeling like we are in the wrong area. This isn't gonna work out. Um. There's always ducks flying, and it's just very incredibly ducky. Like the UM. I struggle with the word habitat. I feel like I'm not describing it well by saying habitat. It's I mean, it's just a giant food source right now. There's soybeans and corn everywhere that have not been cut. UM. The fields are flooded heavily with water, not by um really like the constructs of man. They're just it's just crazy weather cycle. M that this area is holding a ton of water and that water is spilled out into the agricultural fields. So the fields have cover by the way of un harvested food crops. They have food because their food crops like soy and corner bean, corn, soy and corn and m and then there's water. So it's like an absolute utopia for ducks. Um, Yeah, corn fields and needy water. Well, I don't know if is that deep in some spots for sure. I'd say where we were sitting today it was any Oh, yeah, we were in a needy corn field. Yeah, can you talk? Can you discuss Shawan? The scope of the flooding here pretty much from well now in North Dakota too, they weren't flooded earlier in the year. They're flooded now. Well, I guess the best way to put it is northeast South Dakota. All of eastern South Dakota really is at like three above annual preset on the air so man, which is an unrealistic number that seems like a weird number to just like throw out there kind of casually. But the lakes in general have risen anywhere from like five to twelve feet depending on the lake. And then you have tens of thousands of acres of flooded corn and beans, and even counting this spring, you know, you had two point eight million acres of like unplanted crop in southa wet to plant, to wet to plant. So and it's that we're saying around here, zero heart, zero harvest, no one's harvest, no one's harvest, is the thing we were commenting on our drive back tonight. We finally saw a combine starting to roll. Oh, just as we are leaving town, there was a combine rolling. But that that's the only combine I've seen Catton Corner in the field. So there's the first one. When I hear the word flood, I think of like a river. No, that that's so weird about it. Yeah, it's like it's the whole time you're getting ready for this and you're talking about the flooding. Right. I had the same image too, that you're like in a big floodplain of a river and the waters high. Yeah. Yeah, So that the strange part about here. We're in what's called the Catoda Prairie. It's a set of hills in eastern South Dakota formed by the James Lobe of a glacier. I can't remember the name of glacier. Off the top of my head. The James Lobe and the Des Moines Lobe split parted around these hills, which eventually formed the James River Valley and then the Des Moines River Valley, and those glaciers kind of cut around this set of hills, and the hills are wand right out flattened it right out, and the hills are a closed water basin, meaning there's no real rivers, I mean on the sides or south end of the cat or the north end of the So there's a couple of creeks and rivers, but in general the water doesn't leave. So it's the water here is pre sip dependent, Like the water can't come from anywhere else. It comes from here, and here a loan. So if you have a heavy winter of snow and heavy summer of rain, you're gonna have a lot of water, and then you know, you go into your drought cycles, and it's the other way around. The water rising here is so extreme that there are um farm houses with water up to the ground floor windows. Yeah, silos that are submerged. You have entire like old farmsteads, you know, we can even say maybe fifties sixty year old farmsteads on islands, but then you have you know, newer houses house is built in the last fift twenty years now on islands, like livable houses that people had to move their stuff, had to move their stuff out of this summer by boat and they're not living out there, not living in their own house. And roads that vanish. Yeah, yeah, the whole state highways. Yeah, like somebody went about playing those highways thinking, oh, these highways are in a place that's probably not going to get flooded, right, oh very yeah, these are like full on roads. Yeah. They were thinking that this is just a road now and then it'll just be a road. Yeah. But like people playing around the huge like okay, maybe a year or two we get like some heavy rains and these areas will be low lyne and get flooded. So we're gonna build this road in this place that doesn't flood and it's under yeah. I mean there's US Highway eighty one. Highway was for a while ten has gone underwater, yeah, or portions of it gone. A lot of them have been built up since. Oh yeah, like US Highway eighty one right now still closed, been closed since May or June. I want to talk about what it means for the for the lakes and lake access, But first of all, about what it means for I mean, obviously it's it's devastating to farmers, but are people on average that's something that's covered on average by UM. This flooding is a crop insurance and stuff and and and I honestly don't know much about that. Um to what degree you're economically exposed when this happens. It can't be pretty, No, it can't be um luck not luckily. I really don't think there's an insurance situation where, uh, you're not missing a beat right where it's like, oh, well, thank got it all flooded. Yeah, we'll get it. We'll get it better next year. Yeah. I don't think I can't look around here and imagine that situation. I think I think some folks are getting real hard hit to the point where, um, they're looking at different means of livelihood. Yeah. I saw an article today I didn't authenticated, so that might not be true, but it was South Dakota News article forty three farms in South Dakota have gone bankrupt in the last two weeks. So, I mean, it's it's hard on people. Prices aren't exactly good either, so oh grain prices right, which it doesn't matter if you can't go out stuff anyway, So that'll that'll drive him up. Yeah. So ducks love it, man, ducks love it. It's well soybean fields underwater. I mean like he was, thousands and thousands of acres of crop land underwater. And because this area is so rich with slow environments. To begin with, a lot of these fields have you know, slews that were in the field where the farmers have driven around him planted around them. But then those slews have bloated and flooded up into the habitat around So now you've got these isolated slews out of sight, out of mind, which is what a duck wants out in the middle of nowhere, just loaded. Then the cover is food and they can land out there and swim up into the cornfields land and open water in a slough and then swim up into the corn sleep and eat, be lazy. Yeah. Yeah, ducks like it. Uh. One of the more interesting things around here is what it means like this, this historic high water, which is happening a couple of times in the last thirty years, right, is Uh, it's kind of interesting to think about. Where as anyone who's listening knows you got like a lake, right, Uh, in a lake will have a boat launch and or whatever. It's a beach boat launched whatever the hell of park. And you go down and you put your boat in the lake. You then proceed you just drive around the lake. You don't need to go, You don't go ask everyone who lives on the lake's permission if it's okay for you to be out on the lake. Right, it's just once you're on the lakes, the boat launch, you're on the lake, You're where you want, You're out in the water, and it's just like the lake is treated as public land. Uh. Here, there's a it's a fair to call it a fight. Yeah, it's real contentious there for a while. It's kind of taking a back seat now, but yeah, it's real contentious for a while. We're imagine that you have so imagine like everyone who's listening to imagine their own lake. They know about where they put it, where they've ever taken a boat out boating, And you have the point where you launch the boat and then you just proceed to go where you want. Now, imagine that that lake increases in size tenfold and it's now spread up uh and subsumed houses, fields, yards, fences, fences, and you put your boat in at the boat launch. Do you now do you like you always done and go wherever the lake is, or do you now impose these imaginary lines of where the lake used to be and the new part of the lake is off limits. That's a pretty good way of putting it. That yard that used to be here is feet below you, with a fans line and a mailbox, maybe underwater, underwater, the whole kitten caboodles underwater. But what you see is lake lake. So if a guy didn't know it hadn't been there before, and he goes down there and launches his boat, he just thinks it's a big damn lake. But then all of a sudden, as someone saying, hey, you're riding your boat over my yard. Yea, which is below you, he says, I don't get out of my yard, get off my law. You were saying, you know, this is a major issue now. Property taxes one. You know, if it's seasonally flooded, it's one thing, But then the window seasonally flooded become like permanently flooded, and then the lakes like it's there right, there's there's so many facets to it all, like we're talking about hundreds of lakes, hundreds you're talking altogether. I want to say, can't remember the number. It's around three hundred thousand acres of water we're talking about altogether of Is that public or is it not? And so you have two classifications. And I was gonna say, now, go back in time to the when they back when they used just come up with weird explanations and stuff and talk about when South Dakota was founded. So in eighteen sixty eight, the federal government, federal massacre. Very true, very true. Eighteen sixty eight they or the first patent for the diaphragm call m right around there. Can you believe that? Crazy? Was it a sixty eight kl? Yeah? Sixty? And also this some bitch had he patented that year. Cal was pointing out, why was he not busy with the Civil War? No? Six? No, no, no, the yeah, the uh how did we cover that? No, we're talking about the guy that came up the first patented the diaphragm, and he patented basically what we used today, same exact things, there's different materials, and you pointed out it seems like you'd have been thinking about other things back then, Yeah, because he was from Alabama, Alabama, and yeah, I was just thinking about a reconstruction in the SUS dealing with the car post Sigars Civil War like and Yankees running around trying to tell you what I thought it was a good thing to where it was like he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, we check this out. Yeah, but he still got just trying to take his mind off more. But no matter what springs are coming, So what tell we're talking about? Someone comes and says, what, hey, you guys need to figure out what's a lake and what's not. So a bunch of guys rode around and if it was more than four ft deep and they believed it had a permanent shoreline, they classified it as a meandered lake, which is a deceiving term. It's so deceiving. I wish I would have just called it, like a cupcake lake or whatever, a meandered lake, because it's the opposite of what it should be. But they so they drive around right around, Yeah, probably on horses or whatever, and they're they're like yeah that's a lake. Yep. Another thing like nah lake and they mark them all yep. And so they classify I want to say it was two seventy by these of water or something like that as meandered. So the the lake bed with state owned property of South Dakota, the ones they felt looked like a lake, right, the ones that they felt would go dry, and some of them they said, you know, lake, but could go dry. Uh. Yeah, there's even old map where we're standing. There's an old map that says like something lake and says could go dry. Yeah, lake but could go but but could go dry and uh, those were classified as non meandered. So those were put into deedon title private property available for purchase, and a large portion of that land ended up being waterfowl production areas South Dakota, game production areas, you know, things of that nature. Probably land. H Well, then I believe it's the sixties. Pretty much everything goes dry, even the meandered lakes. Like I said before, yeah, big drought. These lakes are so dependent on precipitation, like they're gonna wildly fluctuate because they don't have a consistent they don't have water coming from the north, or water coming from the west or anything like that. Whatever happens here is what happens to the lakes. There's not a big mountain range getting packed full of snow every winter and in the spring that snow comes down and fills up the lake. And so what's happening not at all, And so you have these lakes all go dry. Some of our biggest lakes, like Lake Thompson is a good example of one, one of the biggest natural lakes in South Dakota completely bone dry. What about that one we're fishing not tonight that's never been dry? Has it? Um? I don't think it was ever completely dry. I know is waitable at one point really like you could duck on it. Did you say, like in the sixties it was like yeah, tiny, yeah, small, real small. And now it's twenty rear fishing, Yeah, I think it's Ye went from a puddle thirty five thirt you know, thirty five thirty six ft deep spots And so, Rick, did you enjoy what did you enjoy more? Did you enjoy more filming me getting all those ducks or getting all those walleyes? What was better for you? Keeping in mind that I got that really big walleye. I mean, that's pretty that's pretty enjoyable. Any time you get your when you get a big smile on your face and I'm filming, it makes me happy. Insides, Do you like you liked me getting the For the record, Stephen Ronella was healing some smiling to big smile that large water force TV. You smile, but like a gent and genuine, first genuine smile. If only your mother could have been here to see it. Well, now we got to tell him how big the wal I was monster, big old fat belly guilted into turn and loose, and somehow cal got to keep his there's another monster cat that night. A lot of folks, a lot of folks said it couldn't be beaten. But with a lot of hard work and determination. Oh, Steve came through, came through and whooped it. Uh. So that lake has always had some water in it. Yeah, so go on to what happened. So historically they're like, this is a lake. But then low and behold, it does go dry. Yeah, so they go dry. And then and when the lake goes dry and you live on the edge of the lake, your yard does grows and grows and grows and then the water comes up in your yard, shrinks and shrinks and shrinks. The basin of Lake Thompson, they used to graze cattling, and now this year it's overtaking homes. So what happened is, you know, in the seventies, it's it's progressed since seventies. The lakes filled back up in the seventies, or at least the basins did. The eighties they expand more, and then the nineties they hit a unreal growth pattern that everyone says is never gonna happen again, you know. And is this one to start hearing the word flood. This is when you hear the words flood highest water they had in a hundred years, at least by far, because it's the highest water they've had since the surveying in eighteen sixty eight. And that was mainly, you know, n I believe it was floods being the worst. So early to mid nineties, all of a sudden you have these lakes that were confined to a basin filling out, flooding private land like you were mentioning, those are the Meandered Lakes. But then all of a sudden you have these uh, slews, really marshes that no one considered lakes all of a sudden now way too deep to be considered just a slough. Now, all of a sudden, there's there's lakes that are nineteen twep that before we're just you know, a duck marsh and the map doesn't show it, and the map doesn't show it as a lake. And uh, I mean there's stories out there, you know, farmers moving their cattle up out of these basins the night it started raining hard and they've never seen the land again since, and and and correct me if I'm wrong here. But eventually people started putting fish in these things too, right, yeah, so, and not just people, but sometimes the state a lot of times state. Yeah so you have a you have a mix of the state seeing recreate, recreational opportunity, value, value, revenue. We got to do something with this water. Well, let's put fish in it. Why wouldn't you, especially when I see some water Heck, yeah, I get the one in both that especially because you had, you know, public right aways going through this, and you have a pretty substantiated history of public water access, you know, like the Public Trust Doctrine, the Desert act Um, there was a U. S. Supreme Court ruling. Anyway, there's a few different you know, historic pieces of not legislation, well legislation and judicial rulings that they are. They looked at as, oh, this is justification that that's public water, and so why wouldn't the state put fish in public water. So you have the state pulling down flooded roads dumping fish. You have um people doing bucket biology. That's what a lot of people call it. Champion Yeah, catch going and catching some yellow. A lot of people did it when I was going up. I mean every I mean, nothing happened just where I'm at. But yeah, like you go out, we'll just take tonight, for instance, we went out and caught a bunch of walleye. We would have saved some of those walley for eating, but maybe we keep a couple alive. And on the way home, we swing into some spot that's a little bit closer to home and we just let a few of those walleye go. I always picture it happened like this too. Where you go out your fishing. Say you go off fishing blue gulls, and you gotta bucket and you got right away, baby, have you got three and you're like, oh man, I'm gonna clean up a whole mess him. Well, then fishing goes to ship. You got three bluegos in your bucket? Or four? Would I say? How many? You get? These three? So he's got three and he's like, yeah, I really want a dirty to knife over this. You know what I'll do dump them in that in the lake by my house. Oh, you man, a great example. I'm not sure what the statute of limitations are here, but uh, we don't. We'd always go fish these bass ponds when you were young, early early on in high school, and one of us his folks had a water feature, little pond in their backyard that they like to maintain and keep looking nice. And we thought it'd be funny or cute or something to take a readier sunfish, pumpkin seed or whatever, um and that we had caught and throw it in that water feature, which that is funny and cute. And our buddy's mom thought it was great. But then eventually, as the summer progressed, um, and you know, we had long forgotten about this thing. Um fall comes in and they're going to turn the water feature off, and she's you know, we show back up at some point doing whatever we were doing, and the water features dry and we're like, oh, some of it gone. What happened to that fit? And she's like, oh, you know had turned this thing off, so I just took it down throw it in the river. Right, So there's another leg incidental, Yeah, another way it happens. I don't know why the hell we're on this, but it's just interesting. You would you used to be able to they're trying to change us now, but you'd go and like get bait. So you buy fishing bait. Like in the winter, you're going be like, oh, I'm gonna buy a dozen sucker minos to fish northeast, and you get your sucker minos and then you wind up driving over three counties and you fish. At the end of the day, you just dumped suckermentos down the whole. And then maybe they got maybe the things that are in there, maybe supposed to have a thing of fat headed mentals, but you just got a bunch of baby suckers, like real suckers. Because now and then, on my late growing up, now and then there's no suckers in that lake. But now and then you stand on the dock and here comes cruising by a freaking giant sucker and rs so much was ours. That's like an ice fishing bait sucker that he never found a mate, but he just lives in the lake. He's got a little circle hunk scar in his back. Yeah, and his dorsalman's got all below it because some guy was ice fishing with them. So I think we've established the people's moving fish around. So yeah, And honestly, I think most of it was a state. But in general, lakes get stocked because what else are you gonna do with the access of water. Well, as you've learned too from Col, if you listen to Cow's we can review. Uh everybody eyes you say when you're a kid, they'd say, oh, fish fish eggs stick to the bird's feet, and the birds fly around and move the eggs everywhere. But Cal reported on the case an instance where um fish eggs were surviving in bird ship. Remember that, Cal, Yeah, in the Yeah, I mean that makes sense. It was shutting out birds stuff so fast shout out viable fish eggs. They probably eat a lot fish and moved fertilized a bird moved fertilized fish eggs and delivered it to a new water system and its species. Things about that, right, And they're not like actively trying to eat fish eggs. They're just down there sipping through and eating grasses and everything. And think all the eggs that are and then all the stuff that lays eggs ait stick on like cart lay eggs a stick on grass. Yeah, and then frogs and salamanders and all that stuff. You know, they're just siving that stuff out that spoon bill my shot today. It was probably a carrier of a vector of all sorts of species. And Cal found three salamanders dandies too, yeah, big old big honk and salamanders one the size of of a hand human hand. And then he found two of them making love. Oh, and I mean it just keeps getting better because when I was backing in the boat today, jumped out of the truck, caught a frog with my left hand, and caught a toad with my right hand. This place is like her central I mean for herpetologist. Yes, I mean, if if you're an overgrown kid like myself, this place is just a wonder Rick's tender handle as rong as your jokes I can make about that. Uh So, people move fish all over damn place. They get the lakes get full fish yep. And it turns out that some people don't like fishermen over their land, even if those fishermen are trying to target fish. That there's sting to the state, right. And so you have a well recorded history of the water itself being held in the public trust, and then you have public or you know, state owned or state stocked fish in those public waters. But then the argument is, well, just because it's public water doesn't mean you have the right to access my land. Yeah. Now this is where this is where I This is where this starts to make its own gravy, as they say, right, so this is where it gets goofy because I ask you a series of questions. Go ahead, this is how I'd like to handle this. We got an existing lake, and everybody, like those boys back in, those boys are like, that's a lake, okay, And there it lives. And the lake just lives there. Then all of a sudden, lo and behold, last handful of years, the lake metastasizes. That's not a word I use often, but I don't use it lightly. The lake a task asize us and grows big and there used to be a boat launch, but now the boat launch is gone. The boat launch is on our twelve ft of water, and the lake girls girls, girls, girls grows and covers up a highway, covers up a road. In that case, where it was everyone agreed that it was a lake, and the lake now pass up the boat launch and covers a highway or a county road. Public right away, a public right away. Are there people saying that you can't use that lake at its current shoreline? Correct, because they're saying you'd have to cross my property to get to what used to be the lake. And even then they just in general, it doesn't matter if you're crossing or not. They don't want a boat over top of their land. But what about what used to be the lake? If you can somehow magically get your boat to the middle, let's say you could, you could manage you could helicopter your boat in and get it to what was the lake. People they'd be cool with that, right, but they don't want you crossing putting it in ten ft of water on the new part of the lake. Yeah, yeah, uh, you know. There's so there's so many different like opinions on what certain people want some guys want to buoy off. You know, they're forty acre flooded piece, so they want to like mark with boies what it used to be the lake and that's where everybody can hang out and nobody can fish in this forty acre piece because that's my forty acres to fish. But then you know, and they'll go out and market with buoy's. Yeah yeah, so like mark your like a fence but booi's and they're like, by god, this is my part of the lake because it used to not be a lake. Right. It's really weird. I season driving trucks like right down, a bunch of signs sitting on the say no trespassing. They put te posts in the ice with signs on them like every what would you say, thirty yards forty yards to have their own private fishing spot. So everybody's lined up on the edge thinking that's where it's going to be good. You know, to catch him right on the edge of that private we'll see him lined up her head on that edge. Always. Oh yeah, like man, if I had permission on that should be three bigger. It's so weird. Yeah, and you know what, but I want to put my spin on it. I want my spin on it about like what's what I think is right and wrong? Okay, but I'm not gonna do it till later. I want to. I want to. I want to explore this more because it's two. It's such an amazing thing though, because man, like, what's the timeline, right? I mean, if it's like you got sucked in by some shady real estate agent who knew the place was going to be underwater in three months, but it was like I just saw that you were kind of a rube and was like, hey, I'll give the lakefront property, give you a heck of a deal. I gotta move town. Mom sick in the next county. Yeah, and then all of a sudden, your properties underwater. You'd probably be like, man, I got taken advantage of this is crazy. But on the out of here, it's going to be in the basement to three hundred years or a hundred years or eighty five years or Grandpa had no idea the water was that ever going to get that high? You know, then you got a little bit more of an attachment to the property, right like for a lot, you know, the nine ines was an act of God. But now the flooding this year has been just as bad, if not worse than anything that happened in the nineties. My question is, is this just a precipitation thing that's above average? Was it? What else is going on besides just rainfall? Is it just like more rain equals more lakes? Where is there? I mean, we're so much above We're so much above what this area is supposed to get traditionally on preset and then it's just been a year after year it's just been and above average, above average. But you know, there's plenty of argument and talk about change in land and farming practices and all that, but I'm not really super interested in that being a part of it, because at the end of the day, we're we've got way more water than traditionally, at least in the you know, hundred and fifty years of people settled here and records, we've got more water than we would have had that hundred fifty years, sir. So how many lakes have how many lakes have we lost access to because the lake grew up onto what was regarded as private property before. During the initial fight on this whole meandered versus non meandred waters the Meandered waters are safe. They haven't been closed down or anything. Um, well, unless you can't get onto them. Well there's the states pretty much been able to gain access. Okay, so they've gone into made deals, right, and a lot of them they have public land that butts up to it. You know a lot of those Meandered lakes they owned game production areas or whatever that they then now go put a boat ramping on what used to be duck hunting ground or hunting ground. Um. The non Meandered lakes is where the real issue was. Let me let's paint a scenario where people understand where this comes up. Okay, now let me throw one out there. Uh. Here, you have a lake that you're never two people historically didn't have access to. Okay, so we'll have it's a nonmandered lake yep. Okay, so it's never been regarded as a public waterway. And it's small. Now it's huge, and there used to be no point of access because someone owned all the land. But now the lake grows so much that it grows up and covers up a county road. So now you can't drive your car, correct because it's underwater. You could drive your car to where it hits the water and be like, now I will continue on my way in my boat, right And and so you're like, I now have public access to the water because I'm legally entering the water, and once I'm on the water, legally I can just take my canoe and go where I want to go. But these cases they're saying, no, you can't. Even though you got in where a public roadway is, you can't zoom around the lake at all and fish yep. And that's another part of this. Yeah, that's that was the most contentious part of it that started all this was you have water that goes up to a public easement that the public pays for. But because a couple of holser Is back in said yeah, that's a lake, right, because because they didn't think it was a lake all of a sudden, now you're not supposed to have access to that it was and full of walleeah. Never mind that the state has been paying to put fish in it. I mean, that's like I have your cake and eat it too. This type of scenario did just kind of down on me that Dan here maybe with three toes playing a bit of a game. Oh you're playing a game with us Dan Louisiana fun time, right he uh, he's from place where he's seen plenty of houses on stilt. Comes up here in a steadily rising tide. Mary's a local gal, maybe a Knox, A couple of toes off with an endearing story, you know in the uh the land of the rising rising waters, the Louisiana man, maybe king right could be Yeah, rising waters yonder. I like the white while I taste. Can you import some gator? So what what's your guys gripe with all this, Like, what's your take on all this? Well, the biggest it's something you guys talk a lot about. Yeah, So the biggest problem was first, when this fight started, they wanted to give no, no due credit to the history of public water public trust doctrine said, now it doesn't matter if the water is public. The whole argument is recreation. Is it a beneficial use? Is it a public right? And the landowners say, yeah, the public has, you know, rights to the water, but they don't have rights to recreate on the water. The sportsman say, of course we do. Or sportsman, that's what we do. And um and every town that I've been in South Dakota. It seems to absolutely celebrate sports mom, Yeah, with signs that basically say please come in here. Yeah, come in here and buy some beer, buy some gas. Yeah. But the biggest problem was, or is that you had a breakup of what was legal and what was not. So you had certain lakes with certain rules and other lakes following a different rule. So we have here what's called injunction lakes. They're non meandered lakes, so they're not official lakes. They're not official lakes. Some of them have public land under them, so don't and but they flood up over a public right away. But because the landowners of those lakes, you know, fought in court for those lakes to be shut down to fishing, they are now completely private lakes, like absolute, even with public landing. So why do the guys what's uh, what what's motivating the landowners? Do you think of fishing privileges or just like general like not one. Yeah, there's all sorts of stuff. Um, but the injunction lakes specifically isn't like what I have a problem with. It's that you have a non meandered lake in this county or over here ten miles away five miles away, having to abide by a completely different set of rules than that injunction lakes. So here's a good example. You have non meandered lakes. They should all fall under the same rules and guidelines, but you have three different sets of rules they have to follow. You have these injunction lakes that are not accessible at all, completely closed public fishing. Then you have the twenty seven exemption lakes that the state said have a proven and recorded history of lots of ortsmen use that. For a landowner to close their land off in those lakes, they have to file pretty much appeal I guess to the state saying why their land should be closed um otherwise if and the state so the that's like a game commission or whatever that decides whether their application or there you know, argument is valid. So they can apply on those twenty seven lakes. Let's say Dry Lake number two. That's a good example of one of the lakes, Dry Lake number two. Those landowners would have to go to the state and say, hey, I think I can close my land off on this lake. The state says yea or nay. So far they have not said yes to any of it. On those twenty seven lakes. But then the rest of these nonmandered lakes, all you know, two hundreds some of them all can be is that land owner will but only their land and they have to follow a specific set of signage and buoying of the lakes. Am I correct in saying that the injunction lakes were ones with public access provided by the state um as in boat rams, well public easements, not necessarily rams. Yeah, But so you have these lakes that are all supposed to be under the same classification, that all are following different set of rules, and there's not really a clear precedent on the existing law because this existing law has different rules for these lakes, different rules for these, and different rules for these, and none of it really makes sense. Are there any unexpected players in this? Meaning? Is everyone in this their viewpoint on it makes sense when you look at what their perspective is, meaning, Like we offer times as humans. This is the point I was gonna make about this, or like sort of the take home for me on it. If you look at what we do as humans, we'll have something happened that's not good for us, are good for us, right, and we'll take it and take the perspective that's advantageous to us and sell it as what's right yeah, when really all it is is like what's right for me? Meaning how could it be Let's take some examples of stuff everybody knows about. How could it be? Like Bill Clinton lies about a relationship you had with Monica Lewinsky. How could it be that the people that don't think that's bad belong to his political party, but the people who think it's bad belong to another political party. Or you'd have someone and be like they're getting some trouble with the Ukraine, and people who don't belong to his political party, I think that's bad, but people who do belong his little party, I think it's not bad. Meaning they're all acting like they think it's good or bad, but that's not what they're talking about there, talking about what's good for me, And then I'll tell people about it as though I care about the truth. So my perspective on I would just say, like if I lived here and I was in this fight, I would say, you know, I'm not going to confuse it and act like, uh that I'm a moral like I'm doing what's morally correct. I'm gonna tell you that I generally like people to have places to fish, So I'm gonna take the side of this that opens up the most fishing for everybody, because that's just my groove. And people would be like, I'm the kind of guy who likes to have a bunch of stuff for myself and I don't want other people to be able to do stuff. So I'm gonna act like I think it morally bad for you to come on my lake. Like is anyone surprising? Is there anybody who's like, um, I own all this lake, but by god, I want everybody to come on it. Um or people being like, man, I love to fish, but it just wouldn't be right for me to fish that lake. Maybe a couple of individuals, but you haven't met him, you know. I want to know, like, is there did you get what I'm saying? Is there like a multigenerational ranch family out there? And it's like Grandpa was like, yeah, we grew such and such, ran all these fat cattle on this ground, but one day it's gonna flood. I told my son. And then when my son got it, he's like, yeah, we ran some fat cattle. But then the floodwater started to rise just like Grandpa said it would. And I told my son, hey, this is what's happening. But out in the field, and got blues toes off, you know, the old toad pasture. But one day that pasture is going to be dry again. And now we're gonna be another hundred years down the road and there's gonna be more people in South Dakote in that land. They're gonna be worth more. Whatever you do, hang on to it. I don't care how long. I don't care how many wall I are living on it. Don't let no beercrats take the land. Yeah, the like who's square? Forget all that? Who's squaring off in this sportsman? Yeah, are squaring off against landowners? Are people representing landowners? So sportsman squaring off against private property interest groups? Yep, exactly who's generally winning? Oh, I think without a doubt private property now so so sportsmen are getting locked out. Now see the private property interest groups or donors or whoever would argue against that. Because there hasn't been a whole lot of water shut down. I think we're at like five thousand acres or something, which it's a lot, but um, you know, percentage wise it's not it's not a lot. Now. I don't I'm not worried about what's happening right now. I'm worried about, you know, the long term eventually, like what happens when when the non meandered waters running into the meandered waters. Yeah, that we've ran into that issue. So you have any public lake that is public by definition from the state constitution, even through this relatively new amendment, and now it joins up across it, so that non meandered water then becomes part of the meandered lake. Yeah, so that becomes fair game. So there's been some lakes ago way bigger to this year that we're split nonmandered and meandered at the start of the year and are now meandered. They coupled. They coupled, So that's a net gain if you're on the pro sportsman side. Right. Here's a good way to think about it. It's a great point, Cal read he brought it up. Let's think about like this, do sportsman, hunters and anglers in this neck of the woods here has their total acreage you might not know the answer to this. Has their acreage that's accessible to them increased or decreased due to the flooding. Total acreage. He edited it all up. I would still say before or after the new law. Right now, with the flooding, it's increased. Yeah this year, this year before and after the law, it's still in that decrease. God, I got you. So this new round of flooding helped set things straight a little bit, but it helped a little bit, but it didn't completely offset what changed with the new law. But it's so interesting too, because what if you don't consider yourself a u fishy kind of sportsman, what if you're more of an upland game to have a sportsman, You're just screwed here. Yeah, everything's under water. Yeah, pheasants are all swimming around all the spots you would pheasant hunter slesing full of ducks. They got booy's tied to them. Now what I worry peasant does on my land? What I worry about in the long run, It's just that there's no real precedent set because you have like I just can't imagine, you know, on let's say the US Supreme Court. I can't imagine where these three types of you know, these three different lakes that are all non meandered being treated different. I can't imagine how that would hold up as any precedent that, oh, this one gets special treatment because they fought it in court in you know, or something, but this one didn't fight it in court, so it gets treated differently. But this third one had more sportsman using it than option to, so it gets, you know, more preferential treatment than option two. I just don't understand how that would ever fill up in the long run as any precedent. So I'm not worried, you know, in the short run about our access. We've still honestly, the law has done its job for both sides, and it's hard for me, you know, it's hard to me sometimes that means that everybody's piste off. It's it's allowed. You know, a lot of landowners the option of close off land if they choose to. But for the sportsman, you know, a plus is a lot of landowners haven't wanted to and haven't made a fuss and so but in the long run, you're not comfortable with the way things are left up in the air. Things are left up in the air. So my brother has a sign on his property it says trespassers welcome. I like that man, you don't see me signs and he had to have a custom made he couldn't find one. Is the state? Is the state buying up land that that that private landowners can't um. They're like not allowed to um. I don't know there's like a known net uh state property, but they're lost or something like that. They're at least so like one lake they're leasing the access to for eight thousand dollars a year and you can only fish it for it's like six months or what is it, five six, seven months, it's it's pretty much basically winter you can't fish it right fall in winter you can't fish it. Um eight thousand a year and then the landowner sets the fish limits and what they want to be done with the fish biology. I was getting to a spot where but I mean, no, that's that's European system, man. That is not how we do things in the United States of America. Ain't American, No, no, man, I mean I think it's it is a raw deal. If you have water that the state puts fishing into and then you make up the bag limits. Yeah, it's goofy, but it's like a new lake and the thing is like if your initials s R, there is no limit. It's different from every lake is like not every lake. Every lake that the state leases is on a case by case basis because like you can imagine a golf course and somebody just makes a lake in the middle of their private property and they can just do whatever they want with it. Nobody would freak out about that. It's not really true, man, because it depends Like if you have a private lake, you're not exempt from fishery laws. You know what I'm saying. You don't like you could own all around a lake, like you just talk about me, Well, you can't shad in there goldfish. No, No, there's a lot. There's a lot, there's fermiting, there's permitting processes for all this. Right, even if you just have like a little it's different. You don't set but you don't Like if you own a farm, Okay, yeah, you know you own a big farm. You don't say you don't set the deer season and set the bag a limit for deer on your farm. Right, the state does because the state's wildlife. You're just hosting it, right, But like if you put a bunch of goldfish in your pond in the middle of your little private like can be illegal in your yard. You have to well the state of South Dakota, for instance, And all of a sudden, your little private pond grows exponentially and connects to ten other ponds, and then you're goldfish. For some reason, didn't read the property boundaries on the plat map and connected themselves. Yeah, you got it all full of mermaids lake with goldfish m Yeah, which but I mean, and the state wasn't then for a long time, didn't care about invasive right, They just stocked all sources of stuff. Do you know about our Do you know about our controversial T shirt coming out? No? You know we had the T shirt of a gnome. We had the nome packing out. A unicorn T shirt was aware very popular shirt. It's a gnome. We got more coming out, sold him, sold out him. Oh, we sold him out and sold him out and sold him out again, and then they went off. Now they're coming back for the holidays. It's a gnome. What is bow And he's got a decapitated unicorn. He's got a unicorn head like a unicorn cape strapped to his backpack. Well, we got one coming out now it's the same Gnome. He's a recurring character, and he's on his boat's crazy little nome boat, and he's tied in with his crazy little Noome rod, like a level wine nome rod. And what he's hooked into. There's a mermaid fighting a mermaid circle hook. I don't know. You can't see the hook. You see her, but you can't see the hook. She's lip hooked, but you can't see your lips. It's a quarter of the mouth, or you can't see your face. But the lot, the direction of the line suggests that she's lip hooked. She's here one over for the day. Though people have found that some people, people who have got a sneak peek at this and have seen this or seen it on social media, it's generated some controversy, like people are suggested. Some people are like, oh, you're saying, um, it's okay to eat mermaids mermaids or some people feel that it has a sexual connotation, which makes me wonder what they do with fish they catch. But but yeah, it's a controversial t shirt. Even within our company. It's been some people who have tried to tried to censor shirt. So that'll probably make it more popular. Yeah, because they're like, it's a mate believe creature catching a mate believe creature. But it's somehow so like a human can dress up as a mermaid pretty easily versus unicorn. Ridge founder felt that it should be someone scaling a mermaid's tail. The Norman is scaling its tail, which I didn't think it was great, But I okay. I think it's a courtship ritual between gnomes and mermaids. That's how they courtship. That's how they court. What's the creature created from a gnome mermaid? It's not that's uh, it's not viable. It's not viable. Off it's like a it's like it's like a mule. Yeah. I don't I don't think I have a judgment on it. It's a weird shirt. It's great shirt's best shirt ever made? Is your favorite best shirt ever made? Really think about having it printed to get this on baby blue, because I feel like that blue offset some of the impending violence. Soft. Yeah, if you wouldn't put it on a Camo shirt. I mean, if the mermaid was catching the too aggressive. I like that. I like the mermaid catching the gnome, but the Nome does live under water. Well, the mermaids drowning the Gnome. Maybe she's like coming up out of one of those little backyard waterfall ponds she's in there, comes up grabbing the yard. Now it's not a yard, Noome like it's up. If that happens, then we can't come out with another T shirt. There. The third Gnome shirt is in the works, So you got another follow up. The follow up is in the involves the Gnome and another mythic creature also caught in a violent act. I mean, yeah, how do they bring it up? Cause I was talking about you having mermaid stocked in your pond and they all get away and get into the Yeah. So uh, here's why I think this is relevant even to people that are in South Dakota. One. You just never know driving around here. Cal has remarked three or four times in our in our last two great days of dark hunting in one day at Walleye Fishing, um Man, you think you're gonna tell little my nature how it goes, and you can now and then a little bit, but you think you're gonna tell my nature what's up? Or you like picture that the earth is away, but that's a field. Yeah. Yeah. Then also she's like it's not it's late. Yeah. And on time scales, surprise, this is so fast that it's a time scale that we can actually understand. Like we obviously know things used to be oceans or seas, her maids swimming around everywhere. Whatever. We'd like hear these things that geological history. But this is like so fast that you're like, oh, like five years ago there was no lake and now it's yeah. I mean you're talking about people that are sitting at the bar that remember when there was no water exactly, or you're trying to find follow your GPS system and you're now a towner with a rental vehicle and you're following your GPS system and keep d through a lake. Yeah. Uh. There's two lines from John mcfee's Pulitzer Prize winning book Animals of the Former World, which is like a geological history book. There's two lines that I think of hanging around here where you're like, man, it changed so much. But one is this one line from mcfee's book is that the top of Mount Everest the highest thing in the world. In our world, the top of Mount Everest is marine limestone. Wow. The other thing is this is that if you imagine the Earth's history as your arms stretched out, so it's a line, a number like a line, can you imagine it's history expressed by your arms being stretched out wide? He explains that you could remove the entirety of human history with one stroke of a nail file, and so yeah, there goes that part of the Earth's history off the number line. So when you think about all that, they're like, yeah, man, of course no ship, like, no ship, it's lake now, Like of course that mountain that's twenty Yeah, that used to be the bottom of the ocean. Yeah, well just northeast to here. Lake Agasy, you know, used to cover States. Monster Lake. Yeah, you're talking about the big lake. You have all the dinosaurs winding around the edge of it. Yeah. So but the rapidity, it's so fast. It's fast enough that it makes sense in our we're not very good at long term things like all that stuff. We can kind of imagine it on some arm length metaphor. But it's fast enough that you're like, huh, I used to be able to drive down this road. Yeah yeah, yeah, like when I was on my prime date. Yeah, like just a little bit ago. This was a county road, and you feel Rick Rick has commented a number of times that it's like welcome to the anthropascene. It's it's I mean, one, it's a super visual of like an apocalypse. Tell people what the anthroposne is, just like the human human age where we are sort of affecting the earth on a global Yeah, we had the place the scene Ice Age, the Holow scene, which we're in now. But some people feel the Hollow scene was cut short by the anthropasy and meaning man became the driving factor of the driving global factor, unlike a geologic geological uh, the worthy geological epicopic driver. And in this in this case, you know, irrespective of what's causing the increased rainfall, you just it feels apocalyptic in some ways. To see Barnes underwater, Barns underwater, it feels like a like a road to Go Nowhere movie kind of thing. Like there's just I'm not getting a horror vibe off horror. Yeah, there's just like whole buildings that are just like in a like flood horror. Yeah, we saw that. We saw a house that like looked fairly new, Yeah, fairly had water like the waves were hitting the side of the house. Yeah in the frame. Yeah, yeah, we were wanting that dude still living in there, not know. And then there's like sandbags, he's got his muck boots on. No, but then it's watching the pack. It depends who you are. If you're if you're a farmer in your field is underwater, it's like you can't harvest, it's like a loss on the year or whatever. But if you're horror movie, like that kind of horror movie, I see lots of horrors. Yeah, but I feel like I could set like some spooky supernatural situation here. Yeah, but outside of the movie deal. Uh, it's just like depending on who you are, it's either like, oh, this is the greatest thing ever. Like the duck hunting aided by all these all this water is like increased habitat. The ducks seem super happy, thrilled, thrilled. Yeah. So there's like winners and losers in whatever change happens. And and as things whatever changed in the environment, there's there's winners and losers. These guys, well, I really love is uh that you guys have been catching walle um bouncing jigs down the road? Oh yeah, truthfully, and walleye off blacktop roads in April and May. There is absolutely not a chance there's any better spot to catch walleye than a road flat out. Every you go down the road, the road vanishes under lake your park. You put on your waiters, and you keep walking down the road casting. You wait till you're just at that point where your elbows would start to get wet. Don't go any farther, and then start casting the ditches into the ditch. Yeah, cast ditch work up along it, white plastics, catch one hook to a stringer, hook to your waiters, white plastics, and the ditches only one over. Yeah. I wonder if they'll be saying that about Miami, like, wow, amazing structure. Yeah, people are like people are getting like this coffee shop. But now I'm so happy because there's yeah where you get that group or a hotel, you know, the stone Crab place. Um. So it's really terrible. It's so weird to be here, man. And I mean, I keep trying to Here's the problem I keep running into as a human being. I keep running into. This problem is that I'll look around in some part like I look around, I look at all the ducks here and everything and all the fish, and some part of me is, um, I don't think. I don't want to say it's a bad part of me, but some part of me is like not horrified, like kind of like good nature won this deal or just some some sort of like I don't know, like just being like blown away by it, right and all the all the ducks. If you're looking at an absence of wildlife would be different, but you're looking and it's like it's like stuff using it. We've seen a huge white tails, giant salamanders, but the waterfowl everywhere. I forced myself to be like, but there are people who are losing their uh not losing their lives, but losing their livelihoods. So I'm like, and this is amazing, but remember but it's always the first thought I always have. It is like wow, then I gotta go. But don't feel too good because look what this means for people. But it's been like confusing for me because I'm an outsider too. And when you're an outsider, you don't um your empathy is a little bit tougher because you just don't know the people impacted. When you live here and you know the players. You know, maybe you get to where you look at it just all looks like disaster. But to be an outsider, um, to be an outsider here for the purpose of hunting, ducks, here for the purpose of fishing. You look and ducks and fish like water. You're looking like, man, this is like a wildlife paradise. And you go like, but you're kind of an asshole for saying that, because this is people's livelihoods, tons and tons and thousands and thousands and thousands of tons of food gone to waste. How many times this morning were we sitting there look out over that flooded bean field, and you know, the cloud gets up and we all go, wow, look at all those ducks. And in that moment you're like, you're so excited about that cloud of ducks, but you realize they just came out of a hundred acres of flooded crop that's not going to be harvestable and costs a lot of money to put in. A ton of money I made. I made the comment about um, when you look at this giant field, fields of corn and fields, and you know it might dry out and they get the corn used for silage or whatever. But you're looking at all this, but a lot of those a good disk into the ground. Um. You look at all that and you imagine just like the grain trucks and grain cars, and you think about the way, like I yell at my kids about not finishing the cobb of corn, they'll do the time, they'll do like three typewriter rolls off cobb of corn. They'll be done. I'll be like, no, no, I take that last. Don't waste that food. Shouldn't waste food, you know, annoyed at them. They got half a cop of corn and an eat quarter of that, and you're piste neither look at that corn field and you're like, oh, man, yeah, do you imagine scraping out into the trash. It's been so interesting being here. Man, all that tofu gone to waste. Shooting ducks over wasted tofu uh fed ducks. Yeah, But I don't think that they would This soy wouldn't wind up there because this is an organic soy means you know, does they make a non organic tofu that someone does? Oh, I'm sure I would imagine a lot. Yeah. But if you talk about eating ducks, you talk about them being organic, you got an earth thing common man, especially in this area. These are not organic ducks. Like you said, there's probably not a non GMO duck in the country. Yeah, if you killed a duck of the year up in Alaska, right, but once that thing hits the once that things a few months in lower forty eight, it's probably a little chance that he didn't at some point in time wind up, at some point in time wind up eating eating GMO, GMO products with pesticides and herbicides. And and how many ducks do we eat last night? Nice eight more than nine or ten of them? And I mean I didn't hear anybody complain about a single bite two big duck breasts and legs, and man, they were absolutely delicious. Or we clean our walleys yet no, no yet, man, Yeah, alright, we can just ice those things for tonight. Um. I think it is a fascinating thought of like how we impose order over the landscape. Right. We got this area that's been in flux for thousands of years. I mean, where we are right now is how it is because of you know, this giant glacier that's at over the top of this place. Yeah, we used to be under a half mile ice so think about that. We're doing real good that ship for ducks and uh. And then we lay out this incredible grid system of fences, these neat tidy rows of crops, all running at right angles, all GPS mapped, these roads, county roads, highway as, interstates, all arounding, neat tidy squares, rectangles, and then it just fills up with water and eliminates that stuff. We're like, there will be order, right, and it's like, well, yeah, there will not be order. Yeah, just wait a bit, maybe we'll come back, you know, and it will come back, and and and it's just it's fascinating to try to wrap your head around that. And then the fact that, you know, what we've been talking about is it is because of that change that this area, you know, it has been so good to us wildlife wise. And you gotta think, like, if this water continues to rise just a little bit more, nobody can get in those fields. All that vegetation lays over, you get a big ice cap on it. This winter, that vegetation dies, nukes all the oxygen underneath, right, so you just have this giant layer of decay. All that food is gone, Like, this area is not gonna get a bunch of ducks back in it, right, not not like we're seeing right now. What Yeah, One thing they were saying is it doesn't get picked, it will get disted in. If it dries out the spring look at dissed then like if that corn doesn't like like you're saying, if it doesn't lay over and all that, but if it's if it's standing but rotten, it'll all get disked in. And then there's a lot of corns sitting there for those ducks. But the stay is underwater. What's what's a what's a wet spring? Look like? Right? I can't get in the field. But you know, it's like it's not just because let's say you're just like so pro duct you're like, yeah, screw the houses and the ranches, like let it, let it just go back to wildlife. It's not gonna be like it is right now. No, Like there's no sense of permanence. And I guess from up an interesting point as we've been driving around discussing this is uh Dan Sean have been saying, like wetland, it is the thing that goes dry. But we're talking about wetlands. We're talking about things that are intermittent by nature. They're temporary, that's what they're that's what their whole purposes. They get wet and dry out, get wet and dry out, and it makes them rich. H makes them not stagnant mud, you know, stagnant silt on the bottom gives them that richness. Yeah. So yeah, it's like the same sense of permanence. Right, It's like, well it's a wet land. Well, god, now it's dry. Is it still a wet land? And the guy who put in his fence in his house down here? Sense of permanence right is? I mean, it's just a it's an amazing thing to try to wrap your head around. It wasn't a wetland ten years ago, so it's not a wetland. Well, there's water sitting there now with grass growing and all sorts of wild You had a wetland hiding in plain sight. Yeah, and a bunch of kids dumped a bucket wall. I like that. It's not it sounds like a bad thing, but I like the indifference of nature doesn't care what you really want or how it all fits the puzzle, just it just kind of does its thing irrespective of of any end goal. Yeah, Kelly. Kelly talked with that in Cal's weekend review. When the hail storm killed honey ducks. Oh gosh, oh that was in Montana. Yeah. Thousands, yeah, ten thousand, I think. Yeah, that was down like on the tongue big as hail balls killed, Yeah, thousands of ducks. But the way it was covered in the news, it was like the end of other Nature slaughters Mother Nature heartlessly, right, and it's like it's just hailed. It's just it's just hail and its gravity. There was no motivation. There was Yeah, there was no motivation. There's no motivation, and like she was trying to reclaim what it originally, you know, like mother natures like ducks. It's just like, yeah, I smite the Yeah, there's no and game Warden's like on the report it was like, um, the lake's pretty full. Now. That was last week and it was a bit a lot of ducks made it through it or whatever. It'll be interesting in you know, a year, two years from now to see what this area looks like, because two years ago, if you told me this area would have two foot of water and all the corn and beans and thousands and thousands of ducks. This whole area two years ago was in a drought and that was crazy too. And so man, it's yeah, you're saying there was no water within twenty miles and there's no ducks. Yeah, there was no ducks. Yeah, that's time of year. You should look off in all in the horizon and see dust from combines. If you look off on the horizon, you see the clouds of stuff. Apocalyptic. It's the duck apocalypse. And a year from now you could be right back to dust, no standing water, none of that. No, just the nature of it. Well, Sean, give us your concluders and tell people, tell people about the work you do. Um film, show yep I film a bunch of stuff. But dream we were creative. Dream we were creative. That is how the business got its name. Is that song is right? Yeah? That was my nickname growing up. So yeah, that's a good tape. What tape is that? It was? That a medkit. It's a great medical tape. Man, twenty nine and a half inch while I cutting up your thumb, No, that's my other cut. That's from Prayer of Scripts. That's some that's some rassling. The twenty nine inch Walleyes teeth. Uh, yeah, tell about to show you film. Uh dream. We were creative is my production business, and we film waterfowl show called The Grind, and UH travel all over chasing ducks and it's a man, it's been super cool. You got to meet a lot of cool people across the country and see something we didn't really talk about. But um, I love just learning duck behavior, learning the little different things they do in different areas. You know you pretty well. I've been impressed. You can go to Nebraska and see them when it snows a foot they'll just be in winter week because that's what they do there. But they wouldn't do that in South Dakota, you know. And um, I don't know when on my first duck hunt when I was nine and just been hooked since to the point I'm traveling chasing them for a living. So you learned a lot, man, Yeah, it was. It was fun too. It's been a lot of fun. It still got some more of those fat teal to stack up. That's my concluded saying he's got more teal stack up. We uh processed a few teal today. Um that looked like it was disproportionate in the amount of meat. Two lard. It looked like a like a large serving spoonful of red meat wrapped in snow cap lard. Yeah, when you breasted that teal out with the skin still on fast coming so low and so fast, and so I have swung on I think four groups of teal and have not squeezed the trigger one time time. I was like, I'm just a little seven ft behind that one. Yeah, I've pulled up on a bunch. I thought about pulling up on more. I have not touched around off on the teal yet. I killed Drake Mallard that came in with some teal. That was cool because they all came through and blew my hat off the top of my head almost so else I realized there's a Mallard like man, You're like no, uh yeah, boy, Dan and Sean, thank you guys so so much for man helping us out the red carpet. Be an excellent host and um, you know, teaching us a lot or teach me a lot um, you know while I aired um climbing the chart as far as respectable fish go, that's for sure. After this evening, Yeah, she started out the evening anti Walleye. Yeah, I mean honestly pretty anti Walleye. I was like, the only good way to catch these things is trying to free dive for him with you're um and uh, these ones tonight they actually like hit your your lure, your your jig and instead of just licking it and they kind of tugged a little bit. That was cool. They were tussling. They were tusslers. Yeah, good eating to boot So so that was that was cool, man. And it's just yeah, and so much fun to be down here and um, yeah you guys living a sports with paradise man and back in like a duck camp again and looking at the little the social scene around here is pretty fun. So sports, We're happy to have you guys. It was a blast here, man. Ship. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. It's South Dakota around Holy cascrewed by and here. I am wanting to move to mont No, no, no, no, dude, I wouldn't move. I'd move here man. Yeah. You don't have enough toes for those mountains, damn. Yeah. Yeah, you need to live in the flat land with all the missing toes. So what do you got, Danny? You got your final thoughts? You wanted to wedge in there. I guess I I want to end on a local proverb whisky is for drinking and waters for fighting. That that's not local. It's used a lot locally. I bet. Yeah, you gotta salt the cow if you want to catch the calf local either right, too thick to drink, too thin to plow right. I don't know if I have a good concluder. If you want to catch the calf, I have a good one. Lauren told me that, but I cannot say it on this program. Please don't then the cow if you want to catch the calf rick Uh. Season eight out? Oh yeah, it's out on Netflix. Yeah it won't, it won't. This won't come out. It'll people still go watch and leave it on. So it seems that they're watching it a bunch of times in a row. Yeah, it's hard to film these shows. Maybe unsubscribed from Netflix. Wa wait, you subscribe and then just why then leave the show on. It'll look like you got sick of it and quit and then this show came out and you went back and got it again. I think that's probably how a lot of the viewers feel. They like it that much. Yep, that's a great idea. Cal Yeah, and then make sure to leave it on. So it just seems like you can't get enough two weeks straight. Yeah, that you got nothing. Thirty nine gross three nine year old man almost yeah, yeah, thirty nine year old man. Oh my, My real concluder is you walk extremely fast and uh in deep water. Yeah, it's a different kind of walk. I can't walk like you know me walk. I wasn't walking like I normally walk. But I just you know what it is. You drive your knees forward. No, well, once you told me that it's because you were a musk rat. You know, we come full circle to the must tramping. Yeah, muskrat trap. So just I mean I was driving my knees for They just don't drive forward as fast as you were. Did you watch me a bird dog that crippled Mallard today out in the grass strip? I watched you out there. That's a good retrieve. Like he was dancing. I gotta practice that because look like he was dancing out there in the water, keeping up, keeping up on her somehow. Duck hunting, You made duck hunting up active. Yeah, called Steve for like two hours walking through the Yeah, I didn't realize you duck hadn't by walking around. But you know we're doing a little we're doing a little looting. Yeah, of course, of course we were how to get the ducks up f uh no concluder which just awesome here, Yeah, just sportsman's paradise. Your right eyes bloodshot seth. It's almost midnight. I want to go to bed. That's my clu. I can't control my eyes. Almost midnight. Alright, let's go ice our walleyes. Guys, thanks so much, man, thanks, We're gonna come back hunt turkeys. I'm gonna come back again and hunt something else and do some ice fishing. Oh, come back on ice fish. Then I'll come hunt something else. Only hunt white tails. Sounds like we've got a couple. There's no white tails up here, dude. We saw just the ones that stand out lifetime driving, like crossing the road, buck of a lifetime? You mean, big body not? And I turned to Sean and I said, now that would be regarded as a shooter hereabouts, right, And he goes, oh, yeah, I was a kid. That's fun to make sure the same two hundred pounder all right, thanks guys,