00:00:05 Speaker 1: Yo, what is up? 00:00:06 Speaker 2: You are off in God's Country with your boys? 00:00:10 Speaker 3: Yes you are, Dan and Reed is well. Also known as the Brother's Hunt. Or we take a weekly drive to the intersection of country music in the great outdoors. Those things go together like being twenty years old, being young and being asked who is Simba's dad? And the Lion King and not knowing or. 00:00:31 Speaker 4: Texas and high school football championships Move boss. Also, this podcast would be brought to you by Meat Eater and. 00:00:41 Speaker 2: Brindan's sponsor President sponsor Brindan sponsor T President sponsor t e C. 00:00:49 Speaker 3: Sponsor Wren shown no sponsern the show. Now, Baby, they got some new pythons and we're gonna need us a couple. 00:01:00 Speaker 2: I can put on a my feet and wear them up. 00:01:03 Speaker 1: And her co. 00:01:06 Speaker 5: Shine up. Baby. 00:01:21 Speaker 2: Hudson Westbrook, Texan. 00:01:26 Speaker 3: State champion football State champion coming out of Texas High School, which is pretty impressive. 00:01:31 Speaker 2: Man, he's uh, the guy's young, but he's a grown man. 00:01:34 Speaker 4: But he's a grown man cutting his teeth on the on the road, out there working hard. 00:01:39 Speaker 2: Shows. 00:01:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a new record, Texas Forever coming out debut. I think it's a debut record. 00:01:45 Speaker 2: Hats were cool too. Gave us a couple of hats. Uh. 00:01:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, he was cool, air stream strong. We had a great We had a great time hanging out with him. It's young kid with with a with a good head on his so interesting talking to people. 00:01:57 Speaker 4: Though, even though there's like literally torn years difference between he and I, music seems to are gigging in particular, seems to kind of give us some things to talk talk about. 00:02:12 Speaker 2: Foundational it is. Yeah, it's the same. It's kind of the same for everybody. I feel like, once you, once you do it. 00:02:18 Speaker 3: And that's that's something he talked about, is he he put a song out on on TikTok blew Up, and then he immediately went to road, got a band, bought a van, bought a trailer, and started gigging off of that one song. And yeah, once you once you step into that van and you and you start rolling toward that first gig, and you play that first gig, and you meet the club owner and he tries to stiff you, you know, a couple of hundred bucks, and you got to do that ordeal and you come back off that. Yeah, man, you've whoever has done that if you've done that in your life. You things to talk about for sure. Yeah, great guy, talented dude. He's got a thing the voices. Yeah, he's killing there's there's some there's some money in there. I agree, I agree. I just think he's gonna be around for a long time. I mean, listen to it, get to know him. Yeah, y'all are gonna love this episode. Got thanks for hanging out, Thanks for sticking around. I hope you're hungry, because, oh man, we got some left over. I got, we got we got some guy. 00:03:15 Speaker 2: Roast cooking in the microwave. I knew it was gonna happen like that. I knew it was remix ray. This is a big one. 00:03:24 Speaker 4: Kvogus five stars, five stars to spot Dan's oh pen, I'm assuming that's going to be opinion, and I think it's gonna be about park backing into parking spaces. I truly love this podcast until Dan decided to be mad about people packed backing into parking spaces. Man, I'll back my wife's prius into a spot in order to maintain some sense of dignity driving that thing. Speaking of which, my wife just bought me a pair of COVID I absolutely has nothing to do with your podcast, But if you do, need to claim the shows. 00:03:51 Speaker 2: Has everything to do with the podcast. 00:03:52 Speaker 4: We'd all hate to lose our favorite part of the show where Dan screws up to jingle trying to come up with his verse on the fly read. There comes a time when every younger brother has to stop carrying his big bro on his shoulders. I think that time is here. Hey, my God must have an older brother. Kave oags that you're mad at In all seriousness, this podcast is great and I look forward to it weekly. Thanks for keeping it fun most family friendly. Dan Sharry Cutt's good word when you get the chance. 00:04:19 Speaker 2: Even when my three year old tells me he doesn't want to listen to my silly podcast, I just turn it up louder because you guys are great. 00:04:24 Speaker 5: Three year olds don't like us. 00:04:28 Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, no choke. Thanks, kave oags, yep on you something happened to us right there? 00:04:35 Speaker 4: Yeah maybe so maybe I got y'all both got three year olds, but one of them likes me. 00:04:38 Speaker 3: Hudson Westbrook, thanks for hanging out. You'll enjoy this podcast. We'll check you next time you exceed my speed Hudson Speed and podcast turns means go. Action means action. That's rights. Did that better than I did? We have a uh man, might be you'll see your sheet. Might be the youngest, might be the youngest youngest guest we've ever had. 00:05:09 Speaker 2: I was told that you graduated high school like two years ago. 00:05:12 Speaker 6: Yeah, in twenty twenty three six, Which is it's weird because we go out to all these venues and people come out there. 00:05:19 Speaker 2: They'll be grandparents. 00:05:20 Speaker 6: They're like, I'm old enough to be your grandma, and I'm in the VIP and I'm like, no, it's okay, ma'am. 00:05:25 Speaker 2: All right, we little grandma's too. Its okay, grandma's are welcome here, ma'am. I was by tickets too. 00:05:31 Speaker 1: Dude. 00:05:31 Speaker 3: We have a we have a text and a billboard. This is a long this is a long interest. So just no, this is this is not normal. 00:05:38 Speaker 6: All right? 00:05:38 Speaker 2: Bill boyd Rookie of the month, a former rec techer. What does that mean? 00:05:44 Speaker 6: That means guns up Texas Tech? Yeah, but you dropped out. You said that wrong? Wreck them tech? 00:05:50 Speaker 2: Right here we go? 00:05:52 Speaker 6: All right, that's the first one. No, you tell them, you tell me, all right, wreck them Tech? I went to Texa Tech University until I went for like a year gone along because yeah, yeah, I couldn't have gone along. So I went about twenty four for about a year and then I was laid on the floor of the van on a Twinkie, had like twink all over my shirt, and I was sitting with the laptop doing my homework after the show at like three am, and I was like, you know what, I was like, I'm gonna quit this. And I was like, and that's gonna make me write good songs. 00:06:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, So what's what's what? 00:06:22 Speaker 3: Wreckotec? That's what guns that guns up? It's pretty dope, man. 00:06:28 Speaker 2: A serious XM Highway find former f f A chapter president. We'll get into that. 00:06:33 Speaker 3: Amassing nearly three hundred and eighty million global streams in the first year as an artist, averaging over twenty million streams per week, that's about. 00:06:41 Speaker 2: That's about what we do on this podcast. His debut album dropped last Friday, and it's taking the town by storm. 00:06:48 Speaker 3: We've got Hudson wooll Westbrook out and got man yeah right, his hats man. 00:06:55 Speaker 1: Oh you all up? Let me go. 00:06:58 Speaker 2: Then it fitted too good good to not how bad? I need a haircut. You got some great Hey, gosh, that's okay. I told you. I don't know that that's okay, man, because my wife is a haircutter. 00:07:10 Speaker 6: Yeah, she's the one that keeps camming to My mom would be saying, let me cut that. She could covered up with some Texas Forever you should be get. 00:07:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm got you. 00:07:19 Speaker 3: I mean I'm repping dude. I don't know I'm rapping now. It's kind of a big hat. It's so hard for me to wear hats with this hair. Bro It looks good though, thanks to our Texas Forever. 00:07:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, Texas for tect record tet. There you go. 00:07:32 Speaker 4: I have to I have to do this every time we have someone on from Texas. I have to just start the podcast by saying you're welcome. 00:07:39 Speaker 2: Dope p hat. By the way, though, dope, okay, thank you, because. 00:07:41 Speaker 4: You guys wouldn't be a state if it wasn't for us. Why because we we volunteered at the album. 00:07:48 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, hey everyone, everyone I talk to you here is like everyone does this, y'all. I go into writing rooms and stuff and I hang out with people here and they'll be like, I'll do everything way you're down in Texas don't show And I'm like, what do you mean? They're like not anyone references themselves as much as Texans do. And I'm like, is that a hate or is that like a good thing? 00:08:09 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I think it's a loyalty thing. There are ye, there are things same. I like it, Like I said, as long as you're not just like annoying about it, you know, like name your album after Texas, You're from Texas, tattoo of it. 00:08:28 Speaker 6: Yeah, my whole band got it, and after the factory like yeah, we definitely have like a cult member thing. 00:08:34 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:08:35 Speaker 2: Now we can't split up. So no, uh, what is it? 00:08:38 Speaker 6: Uh? 00:08:39 Speaker 2: I don't know your band? Your band? You should just said you should name your text your band Texas. I know that way because y'all are forever Texas band Texas Forever you have to I'll tag you on the door. 00:08:52 Speaker 1: Man. 00:08:52 Speaker 3: We like to start the show out with a little segments that we call, uh, what you're mad at? 00:09:01 Speaker 1: What you're mad? 00:09:02 Speaker 2: Ehe just tell us what it is? 00:09:05 Speaker 5: What you're mad at? 00:09:06 Speaker 2: Is it you in and lost kids? Mind being your boss man or your neighbors cat? 00:09:12 Speaker 5: Just tell sweat you mad? 00:09:18 Speaker 2: Sorry took me a second, I was, that's going on our right, tight, tight, that's right. I'm glad this morning. I'm actually mad, ain't glad. 00:09:29 Speaker 3: I'm mad at my truck because it's in the shop, but I'm glad at my old truck because it got me here. It's an it's a five Tacoma. There you go, bro, three hundred and twenty seven thousand miles on it. Those toyotas go far, go forever. Yeah, they go ahead, just change the hors you gotta change, That's right. 00:09:48 Speaker 4: They do kind of go forever. Yeah, mine's got two eighty on it. Yeah, still rolling. 00:09:53 Speaker 2: Both of y'all rolling toyotas used to whoa, yeah, a newer one now, but yeah, rolling toyota. What are your So? Am I mad or glad? 00:10:02 Speaker 6: Can I go? 00:10:03 Speaker 2: You can go? 00:10:03 Speaker 3: You go? 00:10:04 Speaker 1: All right? 00:10:04 Speaker 6: So, I'm mad at the fact that my truck got hell damage and I put gas in my diesel truck last week? Oh no, dude, wait wait wait wait wait wait wait? How so I get a phone call from Zeb shout out Zeb, I answered the phone. 00:10:23 Speaker 3: I met the insurance didn't pay for the hell damage, and Zeb didn't pay for the for his fault. 00:10:27 Speaker 2: Put your for you putting diesel in your gap. Guess they should replace that. 00:10:30 Speaker 6: God Praise yesterday. Okay, one thousand dollars is all. It's gonna cost about sixteen thousand dollars in damages. 00:10:38 Speaker 2: Are we talking about this? Okay, we're talking about truck with hail damage. Okay, sixteen thousand dollars worth of damage. So you're gonna put you gotta just just pay a thousand sixteen the face. He just paid it to doubt. But yeah, I got a phone call from him and he's like, hey, everything da da dune. I'm talking to him. He's catching me up and he's like, you're playing the you got the opry on this, Hey, this for this week and this for this. 00:11:02 Speaker 6: I just grabbed the gas, put it right in my truck. I'm like, hell yeah, fill that thing bone dry, and finished filling it up, put the nozzle up, still on the phone, driving down the highway for about zero point five miles, and I I just go stop the truck right where it was, turned it off. My girlfriend's like, she's like, oh, you can just drain it right here. You can just drain it right here. 00:11:25 Speaker 2: And I'm like hell no. I was so pissed. 00:11:27 Speaker 6: I like, all of a sudden, cuss just in the phone on ZEB and take it to the shop. I'm in Minnesota or something, and it hails in Alito or Weatherford, Texas. 00:11:39 Speaker 2: And truck gets held on at the shop. 00:11:43 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, and the guys like, I got my own trucks take care of I'm like, well, I'm. 00:11:49 Speaker 2: Diffused by this whole thing. So you put gas in the diesel, they take it to the shop and he gets held on at the shop. 00:11:55 Speaker 6: Yes, but it was ready and he called me and I didn't come pick it up, so that's all me. It was already righty, But I was already kind of out of. 00:12:02 Speaker 1: Town, you know. 00:12:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not really Yeah, but I literally when he called me, I was like, this is on me or you? And he was like, no, this is on you. Oh of course. Yeah. So I go I go to everyone on my is it really on me? 00:12:14 Speaker 6: And they're like, yeah, if he called you, so that makes sense. Dang, But unfortunate turn of events. 00:12:20 Speaker 2: Oh good, one thousand for sixteen thousand. It's not bad. Yeah, I just loved Doc. Yeah. 00:12:25 Speaker 6: I didn't even know if I had insurance on it yet, but we had an insurance for. 00:12:29 Speaker 2: Man out there making purposes to keep up with. I told him. 00:12:33 Speaker 6: I was like, that's what I get for being twenty one and buying a brand new truck. Can be nice to graduate high school last year? What is it? 00:12:39 Speaker 2: What kind of truck is it? Uh? 00:12:41 Speaker 6: It is It's a twenty twenty five high Country So it was like my first purchase. And then I drove my fifteen hundred Ram up here to drive around because I been buddy hiking with everyone for the past year. 00:12:55 Speaker 3: So it's hard to part big trucks around town too. Yeah, it's not the it's not the greatest stuff. I've learned that too. This little comb I can whip in whip out. But my other truck's go big and it's it's tough, it's got some things already on it. 00:13:06 Speaker 6: Because I was gonna leave that one there and then get a bigger one for here, and I was like, that doesn't make sense, because yeah, no, it doesn't. Comb is probably clutch. 00:13:14 Speaker 2: We fight that battle all the time. We're like, oh man, we should get a bill to fifty just but dude, we're here. May would just sit at home, and I guess now we're probably in town three days a week and it's just like, I mean, it's kind of it's not made for it. Yeah, it's changed what you met up. Oh I had it and I forgot it. 00:13:32 Speaker 4: Come up with something or don't or just be lame. I had a thing coming in here today. I was like, I'm mad at this. It's always it always just ends up being the heat though, you know what I mean. It's just so hot outside. Man, Like I just don't do well and he and heat. Okay, I got one. 00:13:52 Speaker 2: Have I told about the guy? All right? 00:13:54 Speaker 4: So me and my wife had a little let's talk to each other for three days vacation because when you have three kids, you don't speak, I mean speak, but it's like not really. 00:14:05 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk to each other for three days vacation. So uh well, actually, I guess it would just be once you have kids, you don't speak, talk to me while listen talking to you for three days. That's kind of what turning in. So, uh man, I've been working on my fitness. Dude, I'm trying to like stay alive, you know, been working pretty hard on it. And uh so I go to the gym there at the at the place, and uh man, there's this guy in there, and he's real excited about being in there, you know. So he's just he's just lefting normal. But it's off sleeves. They're like, oh yeah, oh, I'm off. Did this cut off ripped up? It wasn't ripped up, but like you can tell, he's like he'd been in the game. 00:14:47 Speaker 7: Manut. 00:14:48 Speaker 2: It's not a new guy, you know. 00:14:50 Speaker 4: So we're sitting there and we're in we're it's just me and him. It's not a giant gym, you know. We're in the Dominican and Irby Damns. Here comes in a Latina stunner. I'll just be honest with you. 00:15:07 Speaker 6: She was. 00:15:07 Speaker 2: She was a really pretty girl and knew it and was flaunting it. 00:15:13 Speaker 1: Right. 00:15:14 Speaker 2: Well, this guy, he got really excited, kicks. 00:15:16 Speaker 4: It into a whole new gear. I hope he didn't listen to this podcast. He'll know exactly who he was. 00:15:22 Speaker 2: It was just me and him. It's probably remember the cartail and probably probably not. No, he's real, white, real, And so he gets on the he gets on the bench and he puts his his foot like behind him on the bench and he picks up dumbbells and he's doing like one legged squat. Yeah, so I was kind of I like to watch a lot while I'm in there, you know. And so I see him have trouble on the first rate. He picked too heavy of a weight. First rep. I'm like, this guy's got he's got trouble on, but he's not gonna quit because because everyone watching year Sophia reguards yea Latina mommy over there. I'm in the gym and I see someone go looking in the background. You're like, for sure. I couldn't. For sure. If I was single, I would do the same thing. I'm not, so I don't, but I get where you're coming from. And this guy, he. 00:16:15 Speaker 3: Didn't even bump it up to like six on the treadmill when you walked in, like just to just to get to your legs moving, dude moving a little bit so tired, man like I got nothing sometimes too far out of readion. 00:16:26 Speaker 4: Yeah, plus, man, bro forever you just don't it's over with for you. Just don't get excited about anything, so except you. Right, So he goes down. I see him coming up, getting a little shaky. On rep number three, I'm like, wow, how far is he gonna go? And he starts going and I'm like, no way, dude, he's not gonna go full. And he's still I know, you go ten reps, right, he still got four reps. All of a sudden, he's like and I'm like, listen again, it's just the three of us. It's not like and the like Dominican gym keeper whatever he is is in the corner. He's just kind of like, man, this guy starts, like. 00:17:18 Speaker 2: I swear, screaming in the gym. I swear he is audibly. I'm scared I'm going to scare people in this building. 00:17:25 Speaker 6: That makes me mad too, because when I was in high school, you had kid, you know, a year ago when I was in high school in the spring, two months ago, but back when I was hanging out, you have the dudes that the coaches will be able their minding their own business and they're lifting like a heavyweight. Oh, and then you're just like you're trying to get the coaches attention right now, like the way, yes, I know what you're doing here, and they're just over there screaming their ass off, and I'm like, all right, dude. 00:17:50 Speaker 2: I just don't understand that gym guy. 00:17:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, dis yeah, like the dip bar man that's the That's the one gym experience I think is we we just used to just do this thing called dips till you die. And it was like that at the end of our workout, and I was up there and everybody like, everybody gets around and you just see how many you can do. 00:18:12 Speaker 2: And I was pretty good. I was pretty light. I was small, but you know, strong, so I could I could go up there. Yeah, no doubt. So I was up there and had the like right technique and I was doing that. 00:18:24 Speaker 5: You know, you can got it. 00:18:25 Speaker 3: I was like, They're like, yeah, you got this, and I was feeling awesome. And about that time in the last one I got out with this. I was like and they were like go and I couldn't get on it and I dropped in my teeth. Oh it was the first thing to hit the dip bars like in this and it chipped half of this tooth and I fill on the ground and I had to go to doctor Paris and half of this tooth is porcelain. Really yeah, for from dips the toilet mouth almost almost cool. No, I didn't bust my lip or anything. It just chipped half of this tooth. 00:18:55 Speaker 2: I've never tipped too. It's not fun. Same. I've heard. 00:18:59 Speaker 3: It's like if you if you chip it real bad, it gets like it's like it hurts in like a sensitive way, like a toothache way, not like a cut way, a. 00:19:07 Speaker 2: Way like a like a throbbing numbing it's like part of your head like it's in. It's like a bone. Dude shipping off. Yeah, they're not fun. I hate working out. 00:19:16 Speaker 4: Speaking of working out in high school, this guy was, let's see if this facts right? A high school football state champ. 00:19:24 Speaker 2: Dude, state in Texas, in Texas? What like, waita let's guess, wait five A three A what was it? You know how we do it down in Texas? Dude, it's yeah, it's master down there forever record record, Texas record the record again. All right, so what position? Okay, hang on, what do you think? 00:19:47 Speaker 6: Well? 00:19:47 Speaker 2: I mean, what was it? You know, I don't even know that. I don't know what division five? I thought you said five eight. I was like you got but probably now that is it? We played? 00:20:03 Speaker 6: Uh we played in four A D one dang, so that's like they added a six A now so we have one A two A three A four five A six eight each one has D one D two D one D two. Yeah, and we we played like like in my high school, we had a thousand kids and then we were playing like our guy all up in Dallas, like was the best team we played. And they were just a bunch of white boys that all went to training all their parents were like breakers. 00:20:30 Speaker 2: Well that's the truth. I mean a bunch of white dudes. 00:20:33 Speaker 6: Yeah, there was probably a bunch of black dudes could probably just walk out there in school. 00:20:37 Speaker 2: Those dudes were Yeah, they were insane and just big guys. 00:20:43 Speaker 6: No, they were just like their parents could throw three hundred grand for them to go to like APEX training facility. 00:20:49 Speaker 2: So they looked everything looked like they should win, like. 00:20:53 Speaker 6: What I should have looked like if I was Yeah, I feel that you look good. Yeah, went to stay champions. 00:20:59 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go I'm gonna go outside linebacker. Oh really, I'm gonna go slot. Here's a slaught to shiver. I think the guy's got hands. Yeah, outside linebacker, you got all right? Yeah, you got it right. I was strong safety, but yeah, same thing. Yeah, safety so much fun. 00:21:21 Speaker 6: I like that. 00:21:21 Speaker 2: I didn't like the man on man stuff, but your your stuff off the edge right now? Do you miss it? 00:21:27 Speaker 6: No? Same before music, I was like, I want something else to like chase towards, other than showing up to math thirteen thirty every day. 00:21:35 Speaker 2: I was like, this is not what's math? Is that a class? Yes? I don't know. Terry probably didn't learn anything but math. 00:21:43 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I'm so bad at math. It's not even makes six times seven thirty five. 00:21:50 Speaker 2: No, that's what I'm saying. Eight times eight sixty four. Okay, good job, nine times seven forty nine. No, that's what I'm saying. I told you you can think about it, for I could think about it and get it right. But just off the cuff, I came to months of the year September. You can't. I'm just telling you. 00:22:09 Speaker 4: My brain doesn't math, dude, it just doesn't. I have three hours left in my college on my college to graduate in. It's a math class and I'm not doing it. 00:22:19 Speaker 2: Does it bother you? Not at all? 00:22:21 Speaker 6: Not? 00:22:23 Speaker 2: Because I can add check. You know what I'm saying. When they come in, that's all I need. The bank doesn't for me enough, give us, give us such a chine. Oh he wouldn't. He's not ready. He's there on Instagram. Did y'all was it like? Were y'all? 00:22:39 Speaker 3: Like when I think of texashigh school football, I just think of like huge thing. 00:22:42 Speaker 2: I think of Friday lights, Like that's what That's what I think of. We played, so we went the whole season. We played in high school. Where'd you go? Where'd you Stephenville High School? Is that where you grew up? Stephenville? Te Yeah? So girl, I grew up in Stephenville. 00:22:55 Speaker 6: And the coach there, like the big reason why we're like knowing is because Art Briles and in Texas and he coached at Baylor and won the national championship at Baylor or something and or something. 00:23:07 Speaker 2: But a great, big success. Yes, but football. 00:23:10 Speaker 6: Yeah, just known for football, and so you know, they had me brainwashed that it was like football, football football, And we played. Then in the playoffs, we played like the fristc Go Star like where the Cowboys practice. Cool we played, and then Dallas Cowboys Stadium for the state championsh I've been there. It was insane, Like we would just walk out there. It's like a wall of sound and those big stadiums. 00:23:35 Speaker 3: You know, we're supposed to win or we're supposed to get beat we're supposed to get be dude. 00:23:39 Speaker 2: We we played LBJ Austin and they had I want you to walk me through because I want to kind of feel this game. Walk me through the game. 00:23:47 Speaker 6: Yeah, so you show up first time you're ever getting We're fifteen and oh, and everyone's just treating it like it's a super Bowl, you know, championship, Like we got it. We got like six locker rooms, we got we got we walk in parked the buses under the stadium. 00:24:07 Speaker 2: I never seen anything like that. Now you're walking me into it, and then you walk through. 00:24:12 Speaker 6: You go into the locker room, they have like all the players' names up, like you're in the Cowboys locker room. Yeah, you had like Dak, you had Zeke, you had Tony Pollard, you had everyone's like like locker and so you get set up. 00:24:26 Speaker 2: You walk out there. 00:24:27 Speaker 6: Basically the coaches just let you walk the field for like an hour and they're like, just get it out of your system because it's just another football game. And the other team are like over there making tiktoks and stuff, and and we're we just walked field, walk off and then dude, all I remember from that game is I walked out of the tunnel and like looked around and I walked back in like everything else. 00:24:50 Speaker 2: I was blacked out during. It was so weird. Really yeah, the game I remember getting truck. Were focused in the game, like it's like yeah, yeah. 00:24:59 Speaker 6: But then they have that big jumbo tron up top. So we're running this play. I'm looking over on the right. I don't know what I was looking at, and my coach is calling something and I get set up on the outside and we had like the best linebacker and four A. I mean he went and played at ACU, Aveling Christian University, but now he's doing like marine stuff and doing CrossFit. Crazy dude like hurts his knuckles on purpose and like goes and yeah, slams his head into walls. 00:25:27 Speaker 2: But sick. My job was to turn everything in my hand. So terrible. Yeah, he's a guy needs to chill out. Yeah, he needs a chill something. It's not that deep. I'll hook you up. 00:25:37 Speaker 7: But he is. 00:25:40 Speaker 6: He's standing there and he misses the tackle and I'm like, dude, I'm talking like this little kid. This dude was on like Friday Night tikes. He was one of those running backs like from back in the day that You're like, oh, kid's not seven years old. And he's running through the hole and I like get down to tackle him. And he's just like grunting, running like two hundred and forty pounds of ball of muscles. 00:26:02 Speaker 2: Just help me. 00:26:07 Speaker 6: And I'm like, oh, yeah, here we go. Yeah, he comes and smokes my ass. I get laid out. They had the huge you know, jumbo trump. 00:26:15 Speaker 2: Are you looking up? So I'm like, all right, I hop up real quick. I'm like that didn't hurt. 00:26:19 Speaker 6: And my head's buzzing and I get ready for the next play and I hear the whole crowd go oh, and I'm like looking Around'm like what's going on. They replayed it like six times. Dude on the jump just trucking me over and over like all my buddies, all my any girl I ever had a chance with any. 00:26:39 Speaker 2: And he thought about it out the windows for the rest of your life. 00:26:42 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:26:43 Speaker 2: I was like, this isn't for me. I got to learn quick. Yeah, that's the only thing i'mna be good at. I do remember the hit that I was like, I think I'm done with this. I remember seeing stars. 00:26:55 Speaker 4: I started having concussions in my junior and senior year pretty fairly regularly. 00:27:01 Speaker 2: You could probably tell just from talking to him, you know. Yeah, let's see what happened. Yeah, that's what I happened seeing stars bro Yes, constantly, constantly, but seven that maybe we're my thirty five seven times seven is forty nine. There you go, There you go. You said thirty five. I'm just glad he didn't ask me that we're good. 00:27:30 Speaker 1: Happened. 00:27:32 Speaker 2: I got some more questions for you. 00:27:33 Speaker 4: And it's kind of like an old truck that you hadn't started in a while, and you go in there and you you turn it, it's like round, you. 00:27:42 Speaker 2: Know, chantastic, this starts running. That's your brain. Yeah, that's right now. 00:27:48 Speaker 4: Well that's my math brain. Okay, the other part of my brain. I mean there's a big chunk of it that stays pretty fired up all the time. 00:27:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, math brain. Those I made no bones about that. You're cting out right now. You're in the middle of a story. 00:28:00 Speaker 2: I just remember when I was like done with it, and I haven't really I don't really miss it, honestly. Yeah, like, and I loved it. 00:28:06 Speaker 4: I mean it was all I did like high schools, and I played baseball too, but I find myself missing baseball. 00:28:13 Speaker 2: I don't miss football. You want you're gonna push bone into playing football. 00:28:16 Speaker 6: I don't miss the I miss like hanging out with your buddies, But I don't miss my shoulder feeling like it's about to fall off my lower back. 00:28:26 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:28:26 Speaker 6: Yeah, I tore my rotator cuff my labor and then a rotator cuff here, and I never got it fixed. 00:28:31 Speaker 2: And my thing now is like a forty one year old man, like, does that is it really worth it? I mean, I don't know, because I do feel like I always wonder that, Like from your perspective, now, it teaches you a whole lot. 00:28:43 Speaker 7: Man. 00:28:43 Speaker 3: It's your first any any team sport, especially like in the locker room and stuff. It it's your first go at a little bit of independence where your parents aren't over your shoulder washed. Your school is period, but sports like school doesn't really you don't really you're not passionate about that, like getting in the locker room with your boys, or like like freaking winning a state championship game by three. Yeah, that's probably pretty much. That's something that you'll remember and be grateful for. Yeah, now is it worth it? Thirty years past that's what I'm Is it worth Okay, like your shoulders shack? 00:29:14 Speaker 2: Did it? Don't you have some shoulders? Yeah? Yeah, my right one from what basketball? Okay? 00:29:18 Speaker 4: So do you feel like now you would would you swap your basketball memories to have your shoulder back? 00:29:26 Speaker 1: No? 00:29:26 Speaker 3: Okay, I mean because I mean it doesn't really hurt that bad anymore. But but no, man, I mean twenty years sure. Basketball is a huge part of my you know, childhood, and I got to do some awesome things and travel all over the country playing it, and. 00:29:41 Speaker 2: At the moment like god, oh we got practice here, Oh, no doubt, no doubt. And it's not football, right, it's not. It's it's not. It's not banging your head up against something somebody else for or basketball guys getting ct or No, no, it's pretty nice. 00:29:55 Speaker 6: A lot of football dudes aren't. Now now they got like Vice's helmets they have, Yeah, they're there's. We didn't have right el speed flexes. Yeah, and it felt like I had a pillow on my head. And now it's like back then, my grandpa had missing teeth and his high school picture because he didn't have face mask. I'm like tough moving my granddad's eighty five. Okay, yeah, he's getting up there now. 00:30:19 Speaker 2: Granddads are awesome. I know he has no idea what's going on? Really? Yeah? I feel bad. He's like, what are you doing? 00:30:25 Speaker 6: I'm like, I got a meeting with Spotify and Apple And he's like, hell yeah. 00:30:31 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe yeah, maybe yeah, maybe might have it right. Maybe it just doesn't give it. 00:30:39 Speaker 3: Being from Texas, did you uh, we've hunted Texas a few times, we've down there. Yeah, I don't think we don't need your house down there. 00:30:47 Speaker 2: Fished a little bit. Did you grow up doing any of that? Yeah? I grew up. 00:30:51 Speaker 6: I showed pigs and then work cutting horses for a little bit. Showed pigs. Yeah. 00:30:56 Speaker 2: You show uh this swine yeah sick. 00:31:00 Speaker 6: So you raise, you raise your pig usually okay, so it's very much like a human like they give you a pig, yes, who does well? No, will you go and buy the pig, a piglet a pig lit? Yes, you buy a swine. And when you buy the swine you usually pay. I mean people pay two hundred and fifty grand for these pigs, three. 00:31:19 Speaker 2: Hundred grand, four hundred grand. You go up to Iowa and they got pigs herself for like four hundred grand? Own business? 00:31:25 Speaker 6: Dude? 00:31:25 Speaker 2: Four where's your ro oi? And that well, that's like the simone biles of pigs, you know, like that's. 00:31:31 Speaker 3: The Are you gonna go make four hundred grand showing this pig around the country. 00:31:35 Speaker 6: That's like the one that does twenty flips and the one that like freaking runs a four four forty? You know. 00:31:41 Speaker 2: But where do you judge a pig? Get? 00:31:44 Speaker 5: What does he do? 00:31:45 Speaker 6: Though? 00:31:49 Speaker 3: That sausage of that pig will be though you really like mud? I mean, do you if you are making this? 00:31:54 Speaker 2: One's the one I'm just saying, how do you judge a pig for being a pig? 00:31:59 Speaker 6: So? Oh, think about like a bodybuilder, the one with the biggest ass and the most you know, chiseled upper level. 00:32:08 Speaker 2: You go ass first, How you explained, dude? 00:32:13 Speaker 6: You gotta go where you look first, and then we're talking about the pigs chiseled ass or the. 00:32:17 Speaker 2: Body we're making a comparison. 00:32:21 Speaker 6: So when there, for you're just the most lean, strong, filled out full pig strides with every walk. 00:32:29 Speaker 2: It doesn't walk like this, it walks like this. Oh yeah, yeah, it's blowing pig. Yeah, and then you get its head up and it's walking like that. It's just like doing the thing on the thing. That's a good that's a good pig. 00:32:45 Speaker 4: How to keep your show pig from running? So you don't want them to run. Although this one right here, that's a good looking pig. Let me see it looks like the one on the right with the pinky looking pig. 00:32:55 Speaker 6: Yeah, you see how it's like toe is like that and yeah, looks like about to pick up like the way it's toe bins. So it's big on the foot genetics. So if their toes are pointed out, then that just throws off all their squareness. 00:33:09 Speaker 2: You remember that girl used today with pointed out toes. God very well. Yeah, she could throw a baseball with her foot those. 00:33:18 Speaker 6: Curve I know exactly what you're talking about, walking down the hallway just toes in. 00:33:27 Speaker 2: So you raise pigs, Yeah, we did that. You said one pig pig from where's your best pigs name? Bacon? I named one bacon named one ham name on port Oh. He's kind of like a little joke. 00:33:39 Speaker 6: But my dad owned a barbecue place way back in the day and interesting, so we always just named our pigs after what he cooked. 00:33:47 Speaker 2: Did you ever cook your pigs? Showy time? Really you just feel like thanks for the ribbon, No, no you So you get forced. So that's like another thing. 00:33:59 Speaker 6: A lot of people will be like, you show pigs like you're hurting pigs, you're killing pigs, you're amanizing pigs, but you're you're basically they get treated like a human. They get treated better than they ever would have got treated in the first place. 00:34:11 Speaker 2: But you know, you're feeding them. 00:34:13 Speaker 6: And then you go to the first county show and someone sponsors your pig, and then you go to a major which is like San Antonio, Austin. 00:34:20 Speaker 2: Wow, and they. 00:34:22 Speaker 6: Actually buy your pig World series. Yeah, so you can the pig World the showcase. There's a Kirkshill showcase where all the guilts together and this is crazy. 00:34:34 Speaker 2: Crazy in Texas. 00:34:36 Speaker 4: So you got all these pigs and then when they when they're done, you just like thanks for the work. You're you're breaking yeah wow yeah. 00:34:47 Speaker 6: But usually they like take them, fatten them up for a year and then they'll be like, hey, do you want your pig? Do you want to buy it back or do you want it to go to market? And on the shelves. 00:34:57 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:34:57 Speaker 6: So honestly, if we didn't have of all the showing and stuff, I don't know if there's like a lot of bacon. 00:35:03 Speaker 3: You know. 00:35:03 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:35:03 Speaker 2: So did you grow up on a ranch? Did you keep did you keep it? Pig? 00:35:07 Speaker 6: So I did grow up on a ranch, and then when my parents got divorced, we moved to I moved to the golf course and my dad moved to Abilene, and so I would go up there. 00:35:20 Speaker 2: The country club member then know what to do when they saw a pig when you're O, no, no, I mean it's. 00:35:25 Speaker 6: Not a country club though. We're talking to Stephenville, Texas. We're talking you hit a ball on it rolls for like one hundred miles track cup. 00:35:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:35:33 Speaker 6: And so we moved there and then we had a piece of land. So I shot I think like five bucks six bucks during high school and then shot a few dough out there, went to South Texas to shoot. 00:35:44 Speaker 2: That's like where you want to go, like Tula area down there, and. 00:35:49 Speaker 6: Went down there, shot like one hundred and fifty it square one hundred and fifty that buck and that was a really nice buck. That's when I've gotten yeah, and uh, and then we went I mean, dove hunting is my favorite thing to do, though, and quail hunting. Went down to Mexico, went hunted for blue quail. 00:36:07 Speaker 2: So tell me about that. I don't know what that is. 00:36:09 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:36:10 Speaker 2: So we get down to Mexico. Part of Mexico. I don't know. 00:36:13 Speaker 6: It's like a Haidalgo area, like Buffalo Gap part of Texas. It's called Buffalo Gap Land Reservation. 00:36:20 Speaker 2: See a little bit. 00:36:21 Speaker 6: Yeah, brown burlap sacks. You had a bunch of like over your head. We get in there, Spanish clothing, dude. Yeah, yeah, and you know that's literally the wall is right there and they're coming through and so you're camping out there and you're camping. Yeah, so we went like no service, no shoes, no problems, no problem. 00:36:45 Speaker 2: Yeah. That's a new song. Actually it is a huge song. You just graduated just war and I'm still learning. I'm still learning only old albies. We'll get into that later. 00:37:04 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:37:05 Speaker 6: We we go down here though, and we go Hunty's blue quail. So we're walking these fields. I got my bird dog running and then my boss has his ten bird dogs running, so they're all there. We're really running like three at one time because we don't want to run ten no sense, Yeah, and so we run three spread them out were unsps or yeah, so he runs dkays, which is my dog's like a Dutch cuts aar. 00:37:30 Speaker 2: So then that's like a whole nother world of like. 00:37:34 Speaker 6: Basically Americans took gsps and let Joe, you know, mate with Mary's dogs, and then Joe and Mary have up twelve gsps that are genetically just crazy not there, you know, like chocolate labs and stuff. Yeah, yeah, easy, yeah, Yeah, they got lost, dude. How when's the last time you saw a skinny chocolate labounds? 00:37:55 Speaker 2: Very fair enough enough? Well, you probably take care of your dog. He's wild man. Yeah yeah. 00:37:59 Speaker 6: But so we're running all our dogs on the quail. And the funny thing about blue quail is that they don't fly. They run when they see you. And in Mexico there's not a lot of grass. So we just chased birds, dude, the whole weekend, Like we down this field. They'd just be running righting right in front of us, and then we chase them down here, and then we chase them. 00:38:20 Speaker 2: Over here, and then dogs not getting them up. 00:38:22 Speaker 6: Well, no, because they run, blue quail are known for running, and so my boss he did not research the place before, and we spend about a week out there, and I just remember like walking up and like from this to this light pole, they just be running, just be running ground blast them or no, because my dog would be riding, sprinting off into the hills. 00:38:46 Speaker 2: And do they ever fly up? 00:38:48 Speaker 6: No? 00:38:49 Speaker 2: I mean they did, but they if they didn't spook, it'd be way out there. And then you're did you shoot? Did you shoot them? 00:38:55 Speaker 1: Uh? 00:38:56 Speaker 2: We shot no. 00:38:58 Speaker 6: You see, we were there for five days, man, and it was like my first big ever like big bird hunt. And uh now he's texting me like four times to go to eye one chicken hunt and I'm like, no, I'm good dude. 00:39:13 Speaker 2: You you broke it with me. Oh I feel that. So you trained? Did you train your own dog? Yeah? 00:39:18 Speaker 6: I trained my dog, and uh I trained like a few other people's dogs. And then I saw that dog sitting there. His name's Kronos, which means god of time. Real deep there, A. 00:39:28 Speaker 2: Little deep for a dog's man. 00:39:30 Speaker 6: Real seriously for a twenty year old. Yeah, it's just like a songwriter coming out. Yeah. 00:39:38 Speaker 2: Well they were best friends just watching that. But I don't know where we're going, so you train. 00:39:53 Speaker 6: Yeah, And I trained him and because he his last owner betrayed him, and so I was like, hey, what about this dog, Like why him, like left him? He lived in South Dakota before he came to Texas, and he left him out in this cage in the winter for like two weeks and someone came. He was an alcoholic came or alcoholic something was going on, and they went and picked up the dog, took him down to Texas and I took him started training them. And the most annoying thing about training dogs is someone will bring you a shit sue and. 00:40:29 Speaker 2: Say that it's a duck dog. 00:40:31 Speaker 6: He'll be like, I want this thing to retrieve ducks and you're like, a shit sue was not made for that man, Like this is not gonna work out. 00:40:37 Speaker 2: But anyways, to take the dog home. 00:40:40 Speaker 6: And now we've been together for like four four years whatever five years. 00:40:45 Speaker 2: He's dope. He's the coolest dog ever. 00:40:49 Speaker 6: And he has a biting problem though, so I think he's bitten two people and if he bites one more person, he gets put down. So yeah, can't leave any door opens, can't let him go anywhere alone. He gets all weird when other guys go up to him, and like, if I brought him in here, I'd be like nervous if y'all put y'all's hand out. 00:41:07 Speaker 3: Because yeah, he'll just like a bad bite or like like a yeah, dude, like what got you into it? What what made you want to start training birds? 00:41:16 Speaker 6: Uh? 00:41:17 Speaker 2: Dogs? Yeah? Bird dogs? But we uh, I don't know. 00:41:20 Speaker 6: He my buddy had a actually where I kept my pig is the best friend of that guy, and he was like, hey, do you need a job? 00:41:28 Speaker 2: Yeah? Full circle and everything. Everything's a soga. Nothing's just like it's a pig that I bought. It's like, no, this pig was raised in Australia and over on some boat and got beat up and buy any nice pigs. 00:41:42 Speaker 6: Though. 00:41:42 Speaker 2: My dad was like two grand taking or leave it? And uh He's like, yeah, my dog's owner betrayed him. There's gotta be something special about it. Though, you know you're true. You gotta well kudos on you for sticking with the bider. You know what I mean. Some people just want to well, he probably had a bad life before you. 00:42:02 Speaker 6: Man, That's what I try to think. And I'm like, if I'm not around, don't take them on a walk. Don't because that's both the times that it's happens when I'm not around, all my buddies are walking them. And then I get a phone call and I'm out wherever and they're like, hey, your dog has bit someone. And I'm like, yeah, good, send the police report to me and police reports and I'll pay for that and I'll provide his ravy shots. And then this person has to go get tested for rabies and then you gotta pay for their rabies bill. 00:42:31 Speaker 2: And yeah, it's a whole thing like saga. Yeah, it's a saga. Yeah. 00:42:35 Speaker 4: So how did you decide, all right, I'm not going to be a pig farmer, I mean a pig shower. I'm gonna pursue music. How did that even get in your brain? 00:42:43 Speaker 6: Yeah? So then covid started, and I feel like covid changed obviously the whole world world. Yeah, but now you're seeing like a weird thing with all these artists that are on TikTok and they're on Instagram, you know, and they learned how to play guitar over. 00:42:59 Speaker 3: Covid and watched, you know, made a couple of videos. One went viral yeah, here they are. And I'm not like a super big hater on on Zack Bryan, but let's go viral say something. Yeah, I mean, but I learned how to play plays Zach Bryan songs. But now that's the last thing I want to do is play Zach Brian songs, you know. So I learned how to play because I was watching his whole blow up thing, like back in like the Headed South days, like back when everyone was just quiet and making music, you know, but whenever he was like putting out Head and South and Revival and like all his first albums and uh. And then I was listening to on SoundCloud and I was like, I want to be able to do that. And all my buddies were playing Fortnite and I was like, mom, well you buy me a guitar. And I started learning from Jason Edie and he does country music too, and and then Courtney Patten and like my hometown, and I just learned how to play guitar. I didn't think much of it and just kind of played it during high school and like it's one of those things that you're an athlete, so you don't want to be like. 00:44:01 Speaker 2: Oh, trust me, I play guitar, you know, because all your buddies are like, oh yeah, and the choice words for that, yeah yeah, Like you don't want to be that guy that's with you. 00:44:11 Speaker 4: Well, it's too it's too it's too far, you know for me each other. You can't play football and be like the sweet little guitar exactly. 00:44:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel you. I know exactly what you're talking. 00:44:21 Speaker 6: And like, I really think I would have chased music sooner if it wasn't for just like everyone's thoughts in your hometown. 00:44:29 Speaker 2: You know, like that masculinity. 00:44:31 Speaker 6: Yeah, Like I played a gig and everyone be like, ooh, you're playing a gig, bro, And I'd be like, all right, well not that deep, like I'm just playing. It's fun, yes, And and so then I learned how to play more and more. And then I got to like my freshman year at college, and I was still just covering stuff, Like I'd written three songs. First song I ever wrote, Terrible, went and got it produced in Fort Worth for four hundred bucks. I played acoustic on it. I'm I don't need to play acoustic on my tracks. And then I'll cut another song, cut another song, and and went to college and like once you go to college, You're like, I don't care what these people think, like they don't, I'm gonna do whatever I want. A bit yeah, yeah, and you realize that the world's not your hometown. You know, it's a lot bigger than that, and that does still mean something to me, but sure you. I wrote a song at work I was I had no guitar, I had a melody in my head, and I was just like, well, darling, you confused, wrote that like verse that song. 00:45:27 Speaker 2: I don't know what it means. 00:45:28 Speaker 6: Melody's great, but wrote it. And when the next day I was like, Okay, this is a good song. I was like, I think it's really catchy. 00:45:37 Speaker 2: I have no idea. 00:45:37 Speaker 6: I've never posted anything. DM all my band on Instagram. Hit all them up. Everyone goes to tech or goes to school a Lubbock and I still got the same dudes with me now, but they're doing online school and everything. But DM Dmal we got in the studio together. I cut my first song for four hundred bucks, posted it on TikTok. That day, my fiddle player was videoing me. I was like, why the hell are you videoing me? 00:46:02 Speaker 2: Dude? That's that's weird. And I posted it and it blew up. 00:46:07 Speaker 6: So then I was like, I'm not just going to be another Like I can't just be another TikTok blow up, fall off, be done. So bought a trailer, bought a van, popped on support dates with Josh Abbott, just started going, started rolling two fifty a show. I'm living off distro kid. I'm like telling the band, I'm like, yeah, we can get pizza, we can get this, And I'm like checking my bank account in the corner. I'm like, I don't know been there, but yeah we and then it all just started from there. Like the one thing I'm thankful for is though that I did is like get on the road, be real life as as soon as possible. Learn out there trying to do it, you know, like post that video and then back it up like instantly. You got to get in front of people's faces or they're gonna forget. You know, who's some of your Who's someone like your inspirations? Like who who inspires you? Who do you look up to? 00:46:56 Speaker 2: Like Texas Country or like Nationhville Country, some of your dudes? 00:47:02 Speaker 6: I think someone like my favorite if I had to name like four favorite artists from any space. It'd be like I love the way ed Shearon rides, love the way I mean like as much as like everything's changed with the whole justin thing. I think he wrote some really great songs justin Bieber, I think he did. I think he did great stuff like first dude to like play a victim in all his songs and yeah, new records pretty good, it's pretty good. 00:47:32 Speaker 2: I think it's I didn't love that super different. I didn't love dais I liked you don't like me up in my head? Is that that song you and ma that Michael Jackson Sounder song whatever is. Yeah, that's pretty good. I don't I don't know where the daisy's came in on that song though, But I'm more of a mm hmmmmmmmm Yeah, I'm more of the Yeah. Yeah, it's weird, man. 00:48:03 Speaker 4: I kind of have like my categories, like if I want to go like sugar pop and I go listen to some Beaver stuff like yeah, stay over there. 00:48:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't try to be in this guy. Yeah, yeah exactly. 00:48:13 Speaker 3: It's cool to me though, that that you like, you know, we listen to the record, it's awesome and and like you would think that your inspiration would be those guys Josh Abbatt and those cats, and they probably are I'm sure that. 00:48:24 Speaker 2: I'm sure you've got a great appreciation one of that. 00:48:26 Speaker 3: But like I'm the same way, man, Like I love going out and listen to different melodies, different pop melodies and rock melodies and R and B melodies and rap stuff, you know, and see how they're they throw words and the cadences that they use and the rhymes they use and and kind of like all that. 00:48:40 Speaker 6: It's kind of like, where can you like, Okay, you see this pop song has like if you I don't really care about numbers when I'm in a writing room, you know, but like you got two billion streams on this pop song, but one of the biggest country songs has a million, you know, at the same caliber of success basically in each industry. And so I'm like, if you heard what I'm writing for the next record, it's like, okay, now you really hear Like I'm trying, I'm finding you, you know, your own little lane of what you like to do. And and so I love listening to like even like the Love Yourself. Yeah, and and Ed wrote that actually really yeah, it's you wrote that song. 00:49:19 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 00:49:21 Speaker 6: But I think if you can mix something like that with something traditional Texas, it's just going to be, you know, something different. But I grew up listening to like Turnpike, Yeah justin you know ed and then you got I love Benson Boone stuff. A lot of people hate him right now. 00:49:39 Speaker 2: I don't know. He's just why do people hate him? I don't know. Do is that to flip off the stage guy? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, people do hate him. You had a moment. 00:49:48 Speaker 1: I don't know. 00:49:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, have you if you're listening to those water Blue guys. Yes, we open up for Middland and is it Jesse the Oh. I don't know any of them. There's a lead singer. 00:49:59 Speaker 6: He already has like five albums out, the best dude I've ever met, songs or bangers. 00:50:04 Speaker 4: Man, But they do something like you were talking about, where you kind of mixing them. Like there's one tune I remember called Feeling the Miles that was like a it's kind of like a Fleetwood thing, but it's with the Texas sound and it's a it's a different it's in its own lane. 00:50:19 Speaker 1: Man. 00:50:20 Speaker 3: But yeah, I really I dig I dig that stuff too, man. I know exactly what isn't it? I think water Blue like I think they were like they were like all in their own group. They were like all super and then they got that they had families like all stars and then they yeah, they all got back together and like wanted to do it. They killing you know who a Texas go don't know if you know him, but Stony LaRue. Yeah, I'll pick feed down to all right, can you do it? 00:50:49 Speaker 7: Yeah? 00:50:51 Speaker 2: I have to look at the lyrics, bro. 00:50:53 Speaker 5: I remember when you just. 00:50:58 Speaker 1: Small jump just me, I was ringing for the boulevard. Yeah, and I saw you. 00:51:13 Speaker 2: I feel so hard. 00:51:20 Speaker 7: And everever guy only moon lie, let I feel the first sorry, see the night. 00:51:31 Speaker 1: I never feel so far. 00:51:36 Speaker 2: I'm trying to mirrory it you bye my side. 00:51:42 Speaker 1: I can see with that the city li. 00:51:46 Speaker 7: A fast whildly around to my fee down. 00:51:51 Speaker 1: Such a ground. 00:51:55 Speaker 6: As Yeah, man, Stoney, I want to cover a Bart Crow or like a Stony song on an album just yeah they deserve it. 00:52:05 Speaker 2: Bart's great. 00:52:06 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:52:06 Speaker 3: I opened up for Bart actually an exit in in town and he really he was awesome man, Yeah, yeah he was awesome. 00:52:12 Speaker 2: He was awesome. I love this. 00:52:14 Speaker 6: Yeah, those like them c CR Rustinading Ragleed Turnpike. It feels to me though, like you say that about Casey Donahue. Yeah, this guy's great. 00:52:25 Speaker 2: Man. 00:52:25 Speaker 3: You say that about like you're writing for your next record and you're kind of getting there with the melodies and and kind of changing. 00:52:31 Speaker 1: Uh. 00:52:31 Speaker 3: Dressed Down was one on your record that kind of felt that way to me, kind of felt like viby and and and like and it had a different thing than sort of the rest of the record, and it felt more more not poppy, but it felt out of the acoustic band land. 00:52:46 Speaker 2: It feels like it's in it's its own thing, you know what I mean. Kind of it's like. 00:52:53 Speaker 6: We wrote last night and like wrote something very similar to it, you know, and like I'm loving that that anything pop could eat like a don't and you can fall. 00:53:03 Speaker 2: Into that pocket and really grow with it. 00:53:04 Speaker 6: Like that's my favorite type of type of songs and I can I love also like you know, a train beat of nine or whatever. 00:53:11 Speaker 2: But yeah, that just down vibe that would be really cool to That's cool, man, kind of what I'm going for. I remember. Uh, the one I liked was Hill All Downs. That was I like that too. You have some good stuff on there. Man. 00:53:24 Speaker 6: I hope people realize that it's like a you're dying on two hills, believe there's a god in the sky. 00:53:30 Speaker 2: You know, I'll make you one out and I'll die on that songwriter. But I got it, you got it? What does that mean? I'm like, but I don't get math, so surely somebody else there. You know, it's good. You got to be good and bad at something. 00:53:43 Speaker 6: You got to give and take. 00:53:45 Speaker 3: What's the uh, what's the the the blow up been like for you? Being so young and being you know, kind of like you threw a one video up. You get you grab a butt or a by trailer and go do the thing. And now you're in Nashville Gap Management, You're you're opening, You're having Miranda Lambert work with you and opening for all these people. 00:54:06 Speaker 6: Like, what's it been like at such a young age. Yeah, I think I think it's super It's been super cool. It's been fun, it's been you know, interesting, but it's been like it was, honestly off the bat, I would. 00:54:20 Speaker 2: Say, now it's fun. 00:54:22 Speaker 6: If you went back like a year, I was a mess, dude, Like I was like overwhelmed, Yes, just overwhelmed. You know, like I put out a video, I had to buy a vand I could barely buy a pair of shoes. At that point, I was like mom put down, Like my mom was giving me. Like I'm not I wasn't treated any worse, Like I wasn't struggling. But I mean I was a college kid, you know, I was just trying to make beer money at the feed store and hanging out. And I put a song out and it just blows up, you know, and like a lot of people now are like, well, thank God for TikTok. Then kids are so lucky, you know, like they did whatever. But like my first show was in front of eighteen hundred people and I was like shaking. 00:55:01 Speaker 2: Out the legs. 00:55:02 Speaker 6: I mean, show up and we're covering. I mean, we don't have a bass player. We got this two playing power chords as the bass player with like his low end turned up. Yeah, we got the right guy. I'm all right, which is the same band I still have, and we've gotten a lot better from where we used to be. But good but Reckam Texas Forever record. But I mean it's just we played that eighteen hundred cap and then we're just traveling all of a sudden and it's like, Okay, a year ago today, I was literally sitting in a dorm room with all my buddies going to the tailgates, and now I'm in Minnesota on a Saturday. You know, I'm playing to a bunch of people I don't know, and for a lot of people, it's like everything they've been waiting for, you know, and for you, you're like, this is everything that like I wanted, but I never knew it would happen this fast, you know, Like it's almost like it's almost like ever since I think I dropped sober two months ago, and I was like, after that song it went super viral, did great, and I was like. 00:56:13 Speaker 2: I don't want to worry about that for a little bit, you. 00:56:15 Speaker 6: Know, like I need time to catch up in my mind and like make this real in my mind, because this seems so unrealistic to me right now standing in front of y'all, Like I would be at the concert and I'd be like, thank y'all so much, like thank y'all for showing up. 00:56:28 Speaker 2: This doesn't even make sense to me. 00:56:29 Speaker 6: But like I don't want to be like that anymore, you know, I want to be like this does make sense to me, you know, like I belong to be here, Like I worked my tail off, you know, like you gotta give yourself credit. And for a long time, I was just like I just got lucky. I just and like kind of an imposter syndrome thing. You know. You're like, bro, like you have two co writers that I write with, Reed Auten that I'm like me and him. Right, He's one of the best songwriters I know. And he's like, he puts out some great songs and he's like, well, your songs just seem to do better than mine, And I'm like, yeah, you deserve it, though, dude, you've been working at it for six years. You know, such a weird thing. I totally understand. But you did it right, man, I mean you you recognized early. And I think it's it's it speaks to your intelligence to go, all right, I got to start gigging immediately, right, and you started cutting your teeth in there on on small shows and playing your way up, you know, and and and man, I mean, look, it's it has it has to be overwhelming, especially to just to pop on social media, and there's been a lot of really really. 00:57:33 Speaker 2: Great It's also easier. 00:57:34 Speaker 6: At the same time, you know, it did help out a ton, Like we just went to Minnesota and we've never been there, and there's a ton of people there. 00:57:40 Speaker 4: But you know what, there's always that thing. I mean for back in the day, there was frigging MySpace, and there was all these other things there, and there were way Yeah, vin is a great example, and there were ways to get your music out there. And I don't think you need to discredit yourself that, yeah, that you're using what's available to you, exactly. That's all every anybody ever did, Yeah, whether it was gigs or or at one point it was it was being an opening act, you know, and then all of a sudden, it if you're on a TV show, well now your music gets heard. Well now man, you guys are using social media and and honestly, you're right, there's a lot of hate that goes on with it, but it also has brought some really great music around and some artists that never would have got their their their start, yeah, or respect or every ever even gotten listened to if it wasn't for it's it's a part of the business now. I think at this point it's been accepted and I think you've done a great job of going, hey, man, I'm putting this song out and it's working, and now I'm playing shows and and and and and and in the long run, I think you're gonna be way better off for building a solid foundation on live music and also supplementing that with some social media stuff. 00:58:46 Speaker 2: I think you're doing great, man. Don't sell yourself short. How how how tough is it to be. 00:58:51 Speaker 3: A twenty year old and move away from home and just go just couldn't just go buy a van and throw a band together and and be like, hey, let's go gig. So I mean, like that's another the credit to you, man, for it's it's easy to be comfortable, bro. It's it's it's easy to sit at home and and yeah, you put a song up and that maybe did a little bit. Well let's try another one, and I'm not so sure. Let's let's let's do some more and maybe get to a point where we can go play. 00:59:12 Speaker 2: But there's no hearing too that they're all going to. 00:59:13 Speaker 3: But it's it's really hard to chase your dreams, bro. It is really hard, and it's even way harder to catch them. And and so like you're on that path now of it's attainable. You can see it, you can smell it, and and and and yeah, man, I mean it feels like to me that you're doing everything you can and the opportunities that God's given you to to go grab those stuff. 00:59:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't don't. 00:59:32 Speaker 6: That's the number one thing. I'm like, there's no way on accident that I d M four dudes. They all said, yes, we went and toward not sordain, bro. Like my whole band is from the church, Like I'm from Stephenville, you know, like raised right, you know, to raise with a lot, raise a lot better than a lot of people have. 00:59:55 Speaker 2: Had the opportunity to be raised. Yeah. 00:59:56 Speaker 6: Sure, And and it's like none of that was on accident, you know. I think it's all just going the way that you know, God has it in his mind, because I don't. 01:00:06 Speaker 2: We could have never done that. 01:00:08 Speaker 6: No one, no one in the music industry that you know, could have done it without you know, he's playing. 01:00:13 Speaker 2: But our dreams work. 01:00:14 Speaker 1: Man. 01:00:15 Speaker 4: I think you you think of this, you have this thought, Man, wouldn't this be amazing? Wouldn't this be incredible? 01:00:20 Speaker 2: How do I get to that? 01:00:21 Speaker 6: Well? 01:00:22 Speaker 4: Maybe it's a social media post and then all of a sudden, you're moving towards it right and you're trying to You're trying to navigate this ship and also be good to people in the process, you know, and it's a hard thing to do, man, But uh, I think you're being real smart about it. You've got some great leadership, you know people around you, and I think that has a lot to do with it. 01:00:41 Speaker 2: Just keep trusting zeb. You know, he knows everything right zeb sometimes he's getting toller too. Keep growing. He knows what I gotta be up and when I got to go to bed, and what I don't want to do, and what I do want to do. 01:00:54 Speaker 3: At this point, it's all you gotta worry about. At this point, it's all you gotta worry about. 01:00:58 Speaker 6: It. 01:00:58 Speaker 2: Good for you, man. We're proud know you, and proud you're making music and appreciate it and can't wait to hear more. 01:01:04 Speaker 1: Out of me, y'all. 01:01:05 Speaker 6: I've been seeing y'all talking all the time. I'm like, shut up and let me just meet y'all. Bro, Stop popping up on my freaking feet. 01:01:13 Speaker 3: That's all hard, But yeah, man, congrats on everything, dude. Yeah, the pump for you and thanks for coming and hanging out with us. 01:01:19 Speaker 2: That's awesome. I can't believe I got one question? Who is Simba's dad in the Lion King? I don't know. He's too young, bro, I'm not what else? Okay, all right, that has nothing to do with it all all right? Who did Michael Jordan's play college ball with? Too young? 01:01:43 Speaker 3: You would have known I am too young for that was it was with Michael Jordan a professional baseball player or basketball player? 01:01:48 Speaker 2: Okay, basketball, he was both. He was both. Got too young? Are you for real? Guys? You know it's not really that. It doesn't really point to the fact that you're young. It just points to the fact that we're old. 01:02:02 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:02:03 Speaker 2: So, hey, man, can you anything about Texas? I can answer? Can you can you give us? Uh? 01:02:12 Speaker 3: Can you give us one off the record? And then we'll go into our favorite section. If you want to, just do like a verse in chorus of It's half step. 01:02:18 Speaker 2: But yeah, we'll do something to have step. Yeah, one of your favorite ones off the record. You need to pick alright, not lose it. You gave me one. End this thing a little bit good? Hey, sandbags coming and clutch h Yeah, this next one this one, but uh yeah, this one. I don't know. 01:02:43 Speaker 6: I've always thought about the word full and been like the word full, like saying I'm a full free is really cool. So I wrote a song called full, Yeah you did, and uh go something like this. 01:02:54 Speaker 7: It works like a charm every time you come me up at night wandering in my trucks and drive home and sweety. 01:03:08 Speaker 1: What can't I say? Don't say much from my heart to forget how goodbye was? 01:03:14 Speaker 7: Don't make sense, but sure ends up to noth and live to lose. I'm fool for. 01:03:25 Speaker 6: You. 01:03:27 Speaker 2: I'm trying to keep. 01:03:28 Speaker 5: My cool, little Phoebe. There ain't no use. 01:03:34 Speaker 1: And you can fool me once. Maybe that's all right as long as your promise to fool me twice. I'm fool fool for you. That's just what I do. 01:03:50 Speaker 2: Come on, man, some show like that Great Man. I had that melody s talking my head. Joel was like, yeah, it's great man, But did you right that way? Ie? 01:04:01 Speaker 6: That one with Dan Ali House again with him best dude, one of the best dudes I ever met. 01:04:09 Speaker 2: Killer singer to kill, I mean kills. He's one of them triple threat guys. He can ye great, Yeah, and just good, dude, we got some cut we gotta cut together. Really Yeah, that Landy Wilson thing. Oh not back in the day when we do uh. 01:04:22 Speaker 6: What's it called? When we like when we do voice mean most for everything. I like, you sing one and I'm gonna sing one. Yeah, you're gonna do something cool that. 01:04:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you can follow his melodies. That's nice, yes, but yeah him, Ryan Beaber, Neil so four, but Ryan Beaver, he is that's all Texas boy. Yeah, he's like the most odd but genius dude. Yeah, I love Ryan, but yeah, Ryan's great, Neil's great. All the guys are great now they're they're all really good dudes. But yeah, that was awesome. 01:04:50 Speaker 1: Dude. 01:04:50 Speaker 2: Your voice is killer. 01:04:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a cool like it's like a Texas thing, like a red dirt. 01:04:55 Speaker 2: You can you can tell. 01:04:57 Speaker 3: But but it's cool hearing you do melodies like that, you know, yeah, like you know, it'd easy just to sing one flat melody, but but to hear a read dirt Texas guy do that kind of thing is pretty cool. 01:05:09 Speaker 2: It also kind of sets you apart, I think from that. I agree with that thing. 01:05:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're more than just that not that no offense. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. We talked about this earlier. But one thing we do is favorite songs. Git greatest slash favorite and uh yeah you brought up alibis. 01:05:24 Speaker 6: Well sing it you big you big t Lawrence, Guy, I love Tracy. Another one of my favorite songs. Sticks and songs. 01:05:31 Speaker 2: Ye that a lot of people don't know that. Come on, yeah, I don't know. Made sure oh any of that little wow, they'll sing some alibis. You ready to sing it? 01:06:00 Speaker 1: All right? 01:06:01 Speaker 6: Let me let me go to the corporates. 01:06:03 Speaker 2: Which part are you saying? 01:06:05 Speaker 7: I got every bar, she know' hose, every move hose I had. 01:06:10 Speaker 1: A man can make. 01:06:12 Speaker 7: You can hear some telling that she knows every train and can the bum, She knows how to gain, she knows how to take, and so many time she's being taken and food by those out of bies and lion nyes and all the best sizes. Or no, she's hurting all. She's being cheated on and pushed around and left alone. Lord knows what I put her through her. 01:06:56 Speaker 2: And boy, you can beth ifrom can man knows how man, thanks for coming and hanging man, Yeah, dude, thank you, real deal man good for you. 01:07:17 Speaker 3: Debut album, Texas Forever. That's what it's called, right, Yeah, I didn't screw that up? Uh rap record tecker, do you do? 01:07:23 Speaker 2: Both of them are just one? Just one, just one? Yeah. Yeah that's pretty. That's dope. It's like guns up. Yeah. I can't do it my pink though, But I like Texas. In some state I got guns up y'all in they're like, get out of the way. Yeah, like what what does that mean? 01:07:37 Speaker 1: Dude? 01:07:44 Speaker 3: Turn of sideways though? Guns up y'all girts sideways. Uh hey, bro, I'm a fan. Yeah, I like your stuff. Man, thanks for coming on, Thanks for forgetting him in here and setting it up. 01:07:57 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for coming on. This to COVID sponsored show. Oh man, I forgot bro. Get your little present, get your little something something, oh well pared of COVID, dude, just for you don't know. There you go there my size, let's see open them up? What you wear like a ten or something? Yes, I don't know. He's still growing. He's still growings like I knew. I just graduated. He's only fourteen. 01:08:19 Speaker 6: Make him move up. 01:08:21 Speaker 2: You gotta get so tired of that. I bet people talk about your age all the time. You can tell when I asked him, knowing when like moms coming, They're like, no, I'm too old for you. I'm like, no, you're not. 01:08:29 Speaker 6: He no like that. 01:08:35 Speaker 2: Like that hang out, yo, ham Cot Bro. The move Fosso question got him. It triggered him for a little bit for a second. It didn't make me mad because y'all are like, you're too young. 01:08:46 Speaker 1: No know that you have seen that movie. 01:08:48 Speaker 2: You still didn't know it though I didn't. Who did Jordan? Who did Michael Jordan play college ball for? 01:08:53 Speaker 6: Hey? 01:08:54 Speaker 2: Those are clean? Oh Noam pointed toes. Is that good or bad? I know? 01:09:02 Speaker 6: I actually do need these because I played Rock the Country and my boots got demolished. 01:09:07 Speaker 2: Bro, there you go ten d on it. I appreciate it to COVID, absolutely appreciate it all. Yeah, man, yeah, no worries toes. You don't need pointy toes. You do you do? Okay? Yeah? These are beat to something. And then I think the camera saw my gum the whole time right there. Oh nice? Oh sick dude. They probably cheer that up. 01:09:28 Speaker 3: Yeah it tastes, Broaki come back, come back,