00:00:00 Speaker 1: Yo, what's up your off? 00:00:09 Speaker 2: In God's Come to Whiskey Boys, Read and Its. 00:00:15 Speaker 1: Bel also known as The Brother's Hunt, where we take a weekly drive to the intersection of country music and the great outdoors. 00:00:23 Speaker 3: Two things that go together like overalls and Uncle Rudy. 00:00:27 Speaker 2: Or Wailing Willie, The Boys and the Boys. 00:00:30 Speaker 1: Three things brought to you by Meat Eater and kick It Ray Ray showing up with the brand new segment and the audio and media. 00:00:41 Speaker 2: He got it, damn. 00:00:49 Speaker 1: Show they still got time to get have him order something, have him on the Christmas Day. 00:00:55 Speaker 2: Hurry up, Ben's Benjamani and get them on the way. 00:00:59 Speaker 4: He got a. 00:01:02 Speaker 2: Baby, Yeah, yeah, keep it going. 00:01:08 Speaker 3: Ray, keep it going away so bad, but you'm griffing to do that? 00:01:22 Speaker 2: What the son? 00:01:23 Speaker 3: What y'all trying to do? Raid your pinkies? Sorry again, Our artist would have enjoyed that right there that we. 00:01:31 Speaker 2: Had on today. Zach John King j K. 00:01:34 Speaker 3: He's got the little he got the little thing, you know? 00:01:39 Speaker 1: Uh man, Yeah, this is this kid's on the rise, rise up making his opry debut. I think as of the recording of this podcast he hasn't. But but when the recording comes out, he would have already played yes laesterday night, Yesterday night. 00:01:55 Speaker 2: God, he's standing here, man, so yesterday makes me want to shoot you, dude, lasterday with a what would last day be? The last day, last night, yesterday, lastday, lasterday, lastast night, last ye yesterday, last night. 00:02:09 Speaker 1: You never say, but you never say night in there, last last night or day. Yeah, man, this is this is a kid. He's cutting songs constantly, he's grinding, he's working hard, moved to Nashville, just didn't know nobody and just kind of cut his own path, and uh, it's working out for him. He's some respect on Zach John was just on the morning he went on the farm tour. 00:02:32 Speaker 2: Luke Bryan. I think he's gonna get a shot if he's not already getting it. Doing great songs, great good real life singer. It's just a good dude. Man. You want to root for guys like that man for sure, you know, just proud to be here. Yeah. Uh, I liked his old boots, man, I liked his old to COVID. We're gonna hit him with some new ones. Gotta put it, put him in, put a dude on some boots. I mean that the sun is playing over one hundred shows a year. He deserves a new prayer to cos. Yeah. 00:03:00 Speaker 1: Then things, it's like they went through the they were probably slick in the bottom when he got them, and then they went through the rough period where he wasn't slipping, and now they're so worn out they're probably slipping again. 00:03:09 Speaker 2: Yeah. Probably we're gonna hook you tripping. No more. 00:03:12 Speaker 1: No, he's slipping. He jk ain't slipping on nothing. Thanks to him for coming out. You're gonna love this podcast. Hey, thanks for listening, Thanks for supporting, Thanks for hitting the subscribe button, the follow button, the listen button, the play button, all the buttons, the notification, the bells. 00:03:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all are leaving reviews and we appreciate that. Five stars. I got to to read. I'm gonna I'm gonna read it. That something cooking. Thank you, Ray, I know you're gonna make Okay. One's just some positive, uplifting Okay, I'm gonna read three. Dude, I found this one. Oh my gosh, Due, I'm gone eleven. We're right together. I do too. 00:03:56 Speaker 1: I love this podcast not only doesn't involve my five favorite things in life. 00:04:00 Speaker 3: God all caps, That's what I'm talking about Joe. 00:04:02 Speaker 2: Do you do jo? Do you know me? Family? 00:04:04 Speaker 3: Hunting music ain't golf, That's what I'm talking about. 00:04:07 Speaker 1: But Dan Reed also co wrote the song that rejuvenated my love for country music broad Heads and lead. I'm just kidding, kind of lovely mate. You remember that Aaron Luke performed that at the CMAS a few years ago. Put me back in the saddle. Quotetion Morris Dan of country Music. I look forward each week for for for the new episode. You guys have an awesome team, Jordan and new Guy Ray and I'm sure many more. Much love from Arizona. New Guy Ray is on the way, dude, New I Ray, I swear if you break off and do a podcast, than. 00:04:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be murder on music, kill you. All right. 00:04:47 Speaker 1: That's a good one, thanks buddy. I like this one, says dang asked the dude about his biggest deer and interrupt him the whole time until you go off track. And I never heard the story. 00:04:56 Speaker 2: Who was it? Let a guy talk for crying out loud? Five stars, four stars, Oh. 00:05:02 Speaker 5: It was good. 00:05:03 Speaker 2: I had to do it, but four stars don't get shout out. 00:05:06 Speaker 3: I just thought that was funny. Here's another five. 00:05:08 Speaker 1: God's Country Equal secret weapon question Mark Seafred Fred forty two, what oh that's his name? Yeah, harvested my first ever white tail buck this weekend while listening to God's Country. 00:05:20 Speaker 2: Walk Glove, Dude, we should put a chart up of people who have killed deer and how big they were. Damison Rodgers listening to our podcast. Jamison Rodgers, what I'm saying, if you killed a deer listening to our podcast, you better let us know. 00:05:33 Speaker 3: Yes, send us a picture. At least the old man messed. 00:05:37 Speaker 1: And I think I've got you boys to think faith, family, country music, and the great outdoors. 00:05:43 Speaker 2: The pause, the best there is. Cheers you bro, send us a picture of that deer they got ready. You gotta thank you. Yeah, there you go with that. 00:05:57 Speaker 1: Uh hey, thanks for hanging out with us. Uh we love y'all. We appreciate y'all. We're gonna go write a song. 00:06:04 Speaker 2: They got raised fire, he's getting calm out, he's getting famous. 00:06:13 Speaker 3: I didn't even get to do that. 00:06:15 Speaker 2: No, turkey out. 00:06:16 Speaker 4: No, I didn't get to I miss dove season. I haven't quote hunted. I haven't been a deer standing a year and a half. 00:06:22 Speaker 2: Are we rolling. Oh yes, keep going. 00:06:25 Speaker 3: It's miserable. 00:06:26 Speaker 4: Because I was telling my buddy from back home the other day, you know, he was we don't get to catch. 00:06:30 Speaker 2: Up, get to get to hunt. Yeah. 00:06:35 Speaker 4: Literally he was like, man, you're writing all these songs about what you love to do. 00:06:38 Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, but I can't. I haven't done them. It's been a year even get to do it, love it even more. 00:06:44 Speaker 4: I miss it, and I think, you know, Lord Willing will be able to like over the breaks. 00:06:49 Speaker 3: But it's been bad. I haven't been out in a minute. 00:06:52 Speaker 2: Hold that, hold that thought. Okay, you're saying it's been good, it's. 00:06:56 Speaker 3: Been great, good problem have very blessed to be. 00:06:57 Speaker 2: Out on the road. 00:06:58 Speaker 3: But like, yeah, we have not had time to do anything. 00:07:01 Speaker 2: Did I write about. 00:07:02 Speaker 1: We got a Georgia boy as you can tell an overall wearing. 00:07:06 Speaker 2: You bulldog boy? 00:07:08 Speaker 1: Oh buddy, yes, sir, Here comes two weekends, Here comes, Here comes to With the likes of Morgan Wall and Gavin Adcock, Luke Bryan set to make his Grand Ole Opera debut in twenty twenty six A God's Country Podcast Artist to Watch g C P A t. 00:07:23 Speaker 2: W, We Got a c JK. Exact town of King. Thank you, thank you all for having me. Man, you sound good in the phone. Somethings you the thing, good morning voice. We also stayed up. 00:07:35 Speaker 4: We had a little end of year party, me and my band and my team, and so we stayed up way too late. 00:07:40 Speaker 3: All right. 00:07:40 Speaker 1: I think this is interesting because you're at the very forefront of your career, like you're you're taking off. 00:07:46 Speaker 3: The sky's the limit for you. We've written a couple of times. 00:07:49 Speaker 1: You're You're incredible that he's written with you. 00:07:54 Speaker 2: No, I'm just I mean, I'm getting in on the forefront of it. Is what I'm saying. 00:07:58 Speaker 1: I believe in this cat, and uh, I want you to walk us like you were just you were telling us before we got on the mics, just the grind that it is for a for an artist, that's that's taken off, that's that's going on the road. 00:08:11 Speaker 2: Wait, let's just ask random questions and he can just answer like this. Okay, when before last night was the last time you spent a night in your bed. 00:08:21 Speaker 4: So the good thing is the weekend stuff. I'm home on Sundays, so you get to sleepy Sunday night. Okay, Tuesday I'm home in my bed. 00:08:30 Speaker 2: Let me, let me rephrase. So, on average per month, how many nights you sleeping in your bed? Brother? I mean what eight? 00:08:40 Speaker 3: Nine? Yeah? Two days a week? Yeah, like two days a week. 00:08:43 Speaker 4: And then you spread that out and sometimes we have like we'll have a stretch where it's like seven full days out or it's a connecting, you know, tour date and we don't get home. 00:08:53 Speaker 1: Okay, let me when's the last When was the last three day stretch that you were home? 00:08:59 Speaker 4: They Thanksgiving and that was dang, that was really well. But that was from that was from August. So the last time I had a weekend. The last time I had a weekend was the it was the first Georgia game and it was in August and or the first weekend of September, so like late August, early September. And the last full weekend I had just now was was Thanksgiving break when last time, it's been a year. I went with with my with my brother back in Harrelson, Georgia last year. And that's terrible to say. It's like I feel like a frost the grind. No, you feel like a fraud, but I do. 00:09:39 Speaker 1: Is I wanted I wanted the listeners to understand, like, and we talk about a lot, right because we have a lot of young artists and we have a lot of bets. 00:09:45 Speaker 2: On them too, like superstars. 00:09:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's we talk about it all the time because that's part of the Did they see you on stage? 00:09:53 Speaker 2: Right? 00:09:54 Speaker 3: Sure? 00:09:54 Speaker 1: And they and they see you at the meet and greet, and and they see you on social media doing your thing. It's it looks like world, bro. Yeah, it looks like you're living the dream. Everybody wants to do it, but they don't see the other let's see you, I mean nineteen hours or nineteen twenty hours of the day. Yeah, that you're not so you're not to get up living your life, still grinding to make the dream work, but not in front of anybody, not in front of any cameras, not in front of any lights. 00:10:19 Speaker 2: Like So as far as what people actually see on socials and you on stage, that's probably what two percent of your life. 00:10:26 Speaker 4: If that, I mean, you're the funny thing about it, and I'm sure you'll heard people talk about this is like the show is like, okay, twenty five minutes to an hour of an entire plan to get to the show so you got two days of infrastructure to get to the show, and then your window to play it is you know, five or to an hour, and. 00:10:46 Speaker 2: That's the best part of the gig. 00:10:48 Speaker 4: Like we'll take a we'll take a four hour flight and then a connecting flight and then a layover, and we'll get to the hotel at midnight and we'll wake up at nine for loading and we'll get there and we'll sit around and we'll do some interview and I'll do dah da da da, and then the show happens and everyone just sees the show and it is over. Yeah, And for me, like we're still like we're doing the van and the trailer thing, and like the fly dates are good, but they're still like I ain't on a private jet or anything. You're taking you know, economy clo. You're doing the thing. Yeah, you're doing the thing. 00:11:19 Speaker 2: Man, I've been on the nicest buses they make, and I'm telling you it. Eighteen wheels is eighteen wheels. Yeah. 00:11:25 Speaker 1: The hotel room is a hotel room. It's a penthouse suite or not the first floor. 00:11:29 Speaker 4: And there lonely, Oh that's another ring on a lonely That is another thing. It's weird to get off stage. Like for the Morgan stuff, you get off stage and like I got the opportunity to sing with him, you got you know, some nights there'll be almost seventy thousand people out there and you get off stage and you go back to your green room with your guys and then you go to a hotel room like by yourself. So in an hour from being up there with yeah, eighty thousand piece at the football stadium. So that's another thing. And I don't know how the big guys do it, because like the adrenaline crash is crazy. Like I started to notice I get home on my off nights, it'd be like a Sunday night and eleven, eleven o'clock at night would roll around, and I was like ready to do something, and I was like, why is that happening? And it's because my body's so used to just like either pushing through a late night drive or you're finishing a show around eleven. So it's an interesting, uh business. I love it, but I'm getting used to it. 00:12:26 Speaker 1: It's what you're saying. I mean, it's good, it's it's that's what you wouldn't want to be doing anything else at this point in my career. You know what I mean? Like that that equals success, right, Like that equals the momentum of your career going this way instead instead this way? 00:12:39 Speaker 2: Get it boy, you know, get it boy. 00:12:44 Speaker 1: Do a little thing to open up the show, Zach. 00:12:50 Speaker 2: Like this is the best sounding one. 00:12:52 Speaker 3: I said, Well, what you mad? 00:12:55 Speaker 2: Just tell us what it is? What you mad at? 00:12:59 Speaker 1: Is it your in lost kids might be a boss man or your neighbor's cat. 00:13:05 Speaker 2: Just you mad? 00:13:10 Speaker 3: Probably y'all can sink well West one, am I mad at? 00:13:13 Speaker 2: Jingle on you. 00:13:15 Speaker 3: I'm mad. 00:13:16 Speaker 4: I'm mad at the conditions of the Nashville road system. Yeah, I I went different than traffic, No, no, no, no no. I'm talking about the fact that I now at this point know of two potholes that could take a tire off in a fifteen minute stretch of. 00:13:37 Speaker 3: Bro you could boil some water and poor mintalm and have a hot to. They're massive. 00:13:40 Speaker 4: And the other day, literally I was driving, I hit one and I had and I'm sure like I probably hadn't tightened him enough. I had two lug nuts off my back right tire come off of my truck completely off, off, gone and dude. There was this random dude in a parking lot. I was parked and he knocks on my window and then that joker opened my door and I like was like whoa. And he was a good old boy that was like, hey, man, you're missing. 00:14:05 Speaker 3: You lose one more. 00:14:06 Speaker 4: Your back tire's gone. And so yeah, I hate the roads. I'm mad at the Nashville potholes. 00:14:11 Speaker 3: They're miserable. He was prepared to good one. Yeah, he was prepared. 00:14:14 Speaker 4: I hate one this morning, so I was thinking about it. It's already on my mind. 00:14:18 Speaker 2: Man, this is weird. 00:14:18 Speaker 1: I'm mad at my right eye because I was telling Dan coming in this morning. First, it doesn't matter how many times I go to the eye doctor. Every time my left eye straight. My left eye is my dog like. It stays the same. It's chill, it ain't ever changing. I've been wearing the same contact with my left eye since I was sixtures off. 00:14:36 Speaker 2: Put the philosophy in your pocket, dude, it's over with no dude, I got you're gonna be clicking and ticking and. 00:14:42 Speaker 1: Just not gonna be using it. But my right eye, my right eye seems like it's changing every year. And like right now, it's been good and right now I can tell that it's it's going. 00:14:51 Speaker 3: It's blurry. It's more blurry than my left eye. So it's like, is it getting worse every year? 00:14:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's just getting it's my left eye straight. My left eye is not going anywhere. My right eye is on the dcline, and it's like, it's what. 00:15:05 Speaker 2: I it's what. 00:15:06 Speaker 1: It's my dominant eye too, so I or looking down the scope everything. It doesn't feel like I'm always adjusting, even in my binoculars. I'm always adjusting my right eye trying to get it. 00:15:16 Speaker 3: Have you thought about because my dad. 00:15:20 Speaker 4: No on that speaking of a gun, like to get an opposite casted gun, and my dad talked to talk to me about it, and I thought he was making an excuse because he couldn't shoot, and he swapped he found a left eye casted gun, and I didn't believe him. I was like, there's no way it's any different. So is he is? He completely switching his shoes and everything. 00:15:40 Speaker 5: Now. 00:15:41 Speaker 4: I picked it up and I was like, oh, this is actually kind of crazy like it it flipped it. I don't know how they do it, but he's over under for for Turkey and Dove. 00:15:48 Speaker 2: Is everything so bad? Can I see it? That's a. 00:15:58 Speaker 6: Thing? 00:15:58 Speaker 3: Is so mud stuff? 00:16:00 Speaker 2: Me my, that's peddle of money. The song I think taking you need taking Away? Yeah, that was a jam. I get it. That's your thing, So get out, blurry dude play Wow? 00:16:32 Speaker 1: Is there a trampoline in that music video? Why am I thinking of a trampoline? I don't think you're thinking of morocc carry No, I think there's a trampoline in that video. 00:16:39 Speaker 2: I don't know. 00:16:40 Speaker 3: Anyway. 00:16:42 Speaker 2: I liked Roller Coaster. There's trampoline in that one. Weather Weather. They're trampling in roller Coaster video. You remember the Moroccarey he has like eighteen Nobody knows that. 00:16:49 Speaker 1: That's the one she was is that's not the one. She's swinging off the rope, swing into the. 00:16:54 Speaker 2: When you're wo. 00:16:58 Speaker 4: She's thawing out for the holiday seasons, probably down to here. 00:17:04 Speaker 2: She's still fine though. She's fine. Dude. 00:17:06 Speaker 3: How how many when did she start her career? 00:17:09 Speaker 2: It would have been ninety, like mid ninety probably early. 00:17:14 Speaker 4: I mean she was pop right, yeah, make your money and then come out for the holidays. 00:17:21 Speaker 2: Pop out for the holidays. 00:17:22 Speaker 3: Great situation there, ain't no telling how much money she makes off that. Oh, I can't imagine. 00:17:28 Speaker 4: It's kind of worth a Google mailbox money on the Christmas sauce. 00:17:32 Speaker 1: Right, ray Google how much Mariakiri makes off of All I Want for Christmas every year? Yeah? 00:17:40 Speaker 2: What are you mad at you met anything? Uh No, I'm kind of mad at language, like current language. If it's not mad at it like culture, like kid language, just a different thing. Now what like no, cap I don't try try there you go. That's the first one. 00:17:58 Speaker 3: Kill. 00:17:58 Speaker 4: I heard skivity the other day. If that's dark, that's like that brain rot type. Yeah, that's like, yeah, you're not getting any smarter knowing gibbety that's that slang. 00:18:09 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, uh so gibbety is what used to do with rocks off of give it across the cree. Three million a year annually, she's making anything for twenty days. Yeah, but how long? When was that song out? 00:18:30 Speaker 2: Right? When did it come out? I must say she probably made one hundred million in the first eight years and now it probably just takes million. 00:18:43 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you're chirity years. Yeah, thirty one years, three million a year? 00:18:48 Speaker 2: What the back half? That's million? 00:18:50 Speaker 3: The front was probably way more at least made two hundred million off that easy. 00:18:55 Speaker 2: She has easily made that off that song, especially with live appearance. It's like popping in for a Christmas whatever you. 00:19:03 Speaker 1: Sick would be to take off eleven months of the year and then just to sing one song make three minutes. 00:19:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And she's fine. Rock care is fine. She has always been fine, always been fine. 00:19:15 Speaker 3: She has some good songs to other than the Christmas stuff. 00:19:18 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, right, what she worth? Dude? Just say it. It's just there we go. I had a cassette tape. I'm gonna say it's going to creep up on them. 00:19:26 Speaker 1: I had a Mariah Carey cassette tape that you could flip over and do the B side of it, and I mean all those hits are on there. 00:19:32 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:19:32 Speaker 2: I listened to it religiously, handy dude, oh. 00:19:39 Speaker 3: The way. More than even that. 00:19:41 Speaker 2: It's hard. You know. What I've heard is that they don't really report their true earnings because they don't want the r s coming after blame them. I wouldn't. I don't blame them anyway. Mark Carey is not on the podcast King. 00:19:52 Speaker 3: Is and you're not mad. 00:19:55 Speaker 2: You're listening I'm the farthest thing from mad at Marica. 00:19:58 Speaker 3: Why are you mad at language? Then we'll get into other. 00:20:00 Speaker 2: Stuff, because this morning I was like, Shane had to leave early, and so she there's a switch that happens where at seven thirty the nanny gets there. 00:20:13 Speaker 1: Don't you love it when your wife just gets back from a trip and she's like, hey, I gotta leave early in. 00:20:16 Speaker 2: Long not only that, but comes into like the clean house and just. 00:20:22 Speaker 3: Jordan the other day was like, hey, I'm leaving Wednesday morning. 00:20:24 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's cool. She's like, oh, and I got to get show to go to Tuesday night. It's like sick. Yeah, I came that twelve thirty six hours inside with my kids seventy degrees and anyway, I was like, I was trying to decide between this shirt and another shirt, and I was like, love you Jay. By the way, I was like, is this shirt cool? And she goes, or this one because the other one was a hoodie and I really wanted to wear it because I like to be comfortable. She goes, no, this one. It's giving December. It's giving. Yes. I was like, it's. 00:20:51 Speaker 3: What what was she talking about? 00:20:53 Speaker 2: I said? I thought she said Thanksgiving December, but she said it's given. 00:20:57 Speaker 3: You said Thanksgiving Giving December. 00:20:59 Speaker 2: It's Thanksgiving. 00:21:01 Speaker 3: It's a great shirt. 00:21:02 Speaker 2: It's a way to say. 00:21:03 Speaker 4: It's it's it's it's very specifically. 00:21:08 Speaker 2: Stylish for this time of year. 00:21:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're asking your wife with shirt to wear on this podcast. 00:21:14 Speaker 2: No, I didn't. And in the first place, we're talking about my nanny, dude, not my wife. Oh yeah, my wife had lived early. And I wasn't sure that it, like, I wasn't sure which one. 00:21:25 Speaker 1: She was like, you need wear this because it's Giving December, and I was like, it sounds like a band name. 00:21:31 Speaker 2: It's Giving. I'm hoping for punk Man. 00:21:36 Speaker 3: You know, it's ready for December. 00:21:37 Speaker 1: It's it's fitted ready. 00:21:38 Speaker 4: For but it's it's it's giving is Yeah, that's a tough one. 00:21:44 Speaker 3: Giving off a vibe is what she meant, like he's giving off. Don't tell me what you don't know. We don't mean either. 00:21:50 Speaker 2: We're too old to know. How are you you look great? 00:21:54 Speaker 3: Thanks man? 00:21:55 Speaker 2: Yeah? 00:21:55 Speaker 4: And I don't know much of anything. I keep up with my younger siblings. They all know that stuff. 00:22:00 Speaker 2: How young is your youngest sibling? 00:22:01 Speaker 4: Uh, he's a he'll be a junior in high school. What are you and the total I'm the oldest. Yeah, I'm the oldest. I have a twin sister. I'm the oldest by a minute. I got two younger sisters and a younger brother. 00:22:16 Speaker 2: Come on, yeh, we had a big old family. Yeah, there's four of us. Yeah, it's the best. It's Thanksgiving, Christmas? 00:22:24 Speaker 4: Is it? 00:22:24 Speaker 2: Wow? 00:22:25 Speaker 4: Is it every This was the first year where we like did a smaller one. We usually have no joke, we'll have forty or fifty people at our Thanksgivings because I have a ton of cousins too, So yeah, we all do it that. 00:22:35 Speaker 3: We used to do it at my house. 00:22:37 Speaker 4: And then my parents moved, uh moved to Chattanooga and now they've got like a little cabin, so it's a lot smaller, and so we were like, oh, well, we'll just hang out with the immediate family. So that was actually kind of cool because my cousins and and all of them did their thing and we did our thing, and honestly, it was kind of fun. And I'm kind of like, I love my family, like even my extended family. Right, we're way tighter than a lot of families. Yeah, but this year specifically, I was kind of like just I'm just worn out, and I was like I don't really want to have to do the thing for a whole day. And so it was really nice and they understood. They're great. Yeah, Chantanooga is awesome. Yeah, I love ches the best. We took the kids to uh Dollywood, yeah, and did all that which is not in Chainanoo. I don't even know why I said that, but no, we. 00:23:20 Speaker 3: Took them to Signal Mountain over there, that's all them. 00:23:23 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:23:23 Speaker 2: I went to the zoo and all that that was. That was fun. Talk to me about quail hunting, dude, I don't know nothing about it, honestly. You got dogs or what? 00:23:29 Speaker 3: So my my stepdad does. He got two gsps and the real dogs. 00:23:36 Speaker 4: Yeahs. And he trained them both, which is really cool. Like he didn't he didn't ship them off the score and nothing. 00:23:44 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:23:44 Speaker 4: I My first real exposure to hunt was dove hunting. Like my dad loves dove, my uncle loves dove, and so we would I mean like religiously, first Saturday of dove season. 00:23:56 Speaker 2: We would first weekend, the September dogs. 00:23:59 Speaker 4: No, my buddies would have, but we didn't have dogs, we just go pick them up. 00:24:03 Speaker 1: That's the same way as like that rabbit hunting and dove hunt on my first experiences. But I think my dad took me I was so young, to be a doll. 00:24:11 Speaker 3: He gave me a b B gun. I was convinced. 00:24:14 Speaker 4: I got one with a BB gun one time and he was like, go get it, and I realized it was his. 00:24:18 Speaker 3: And I had to go pick it up. 00:24:19 Speaker 2: But now that one too, Yeah, that one to quail. 00:24:21 Speaker 3: Is great, man quail. 00:24:22 Speaker 4: You know, like we go down in Harrilson and there's not a ton of wild quail down in Georgia anymore. 00:24:28 Speaker 2: Hardly at all. And they're not kind of anywhere no anymore, they're not. 00:24:31 Speaker 4: And so if you what you'll do is like you'll get you know, if you want to if you think you'll shoot thirty, you'll get forty and they'll you know, put them out of the cage. And the cool thing is like down there it is so big that what you'll get is like you'll get cage birds that have been out for months that are actually good flyers. So you're not it's not like you're shooting a bird straight out of a cage. 00:24:54 Speaker 3: They'll put them out. 00:24:54 Speaker 4: But then you'll find you'll find one that's been out fit for for four months. There flies as fast, is almost as fast as. 00:25:01 Speaker 2: A wild quail. 00:25:02 Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, the dogs will go out there and you'll they'll point and you'll walk up there, and if you have a flushing dog, you'll send it and they'll flush it up and you're ready to go. And if you don't, like my step dad will just like the dog will point and he'll like rustle up the the the rye grass or whatever. 00:25:17 Speaker 3: And you know, some of them are great flyers. Some of them are. It's a lot. You know. 00:25:22 Speaker 4: My cousins give me some stuff for it, because like I went till hunting for the first time last year and I've been like, oh, I'm a pretty good shot at a quail. Quail are a lot slower than the duck, and so I think a lot of people are teal too. 00:25:36 Speaker 3: Oh teller. 00:25:37 Speaker 1: I mean it's the fastest, the fastest. They gotta be close, Yeah, for sure, they're like, here's teal coming. 00:25:44 Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, that one little thing you a much shoot into the wad. 00:25:47 Speaker 4: Of them and yeah, but no quails just being out there, man, like being out in the woods. And I love the you know, watching the dogs work almost as much as I love getting them. And I love to cook them, like we'll make quail paper the day I get home up cleaning up. 00:26:02 Speaker 1: And you're just doing you just breasting them, doing cream, cheese, jalapeno, bacon. 00:26:06 Speaker 2: Ye smoke them. Yeah, they're so good. Hard to be, dude, I know people hate on that, but it is hard. So good. Can we tell? Can we tell? Tell? My quote? I don't know, I thought about it. We went on anyway, So it's it's a lot to explain. But basically, we had a really rich, famous buddy. 00:26:29 Speaker 1: That's how young award winning that World's okay, well you just okay, you just let them narrow down. Not Luke Combs. Okay, we'll find a way to name drop him later. 00:26:39 Speaker 2: I'm sure. There you go. So we go, and all these buddies from like different walks of life would come to this one place. It was a guy's weekend and we would all just pile in there and we were kind of initially invited for like entertainment, but just became a thread of the culture. And so we were all buddies and hanging out and all these guys would come from your in lago, all these big cities, and they had never seen anything like this country stuff we were doing. You know, they never seen it. So we they have this quel hunt lined up which is very pinned birds, like like, can't I can't even really call it a quell hunting love this story. It was a shoot. Okay, it was a shoot, but we're part of it, and they you know, like we're gonna go right. Well, there was like eight groups and we all were staggered and we would kind of go through the quel shoot right. Well, none of the other guys were hitting anything, and they were extremely dangerous with guns, so they all ended up loading into side by sides, the giants syey sides and just following me and Reed and our buddy Sam around and it was like every time we would was capping them. We would shoot one day. 00:27:50 Speaker 1: But they'll talk about like Gucci suits, you know, like back you remember somebody I think it was, and this guy mn Photy shout out photies are goutdy Boston got He had a purple lower track, so I remember, oh yeah with Mutt boots. 00:28:09 Speaker 2: It's exactly what you think it is right now. So it's like short little bit of face, like it's a whole thing. It goes so we're like shooting quail and they're they're cheering and they're falling us around these spicides. They're drinking. 00:28:22 Speaker 3: They're not shooting anymore now. 00:28:23 Speaker 2: It was just it was such a hazard that we were like just hobbing just you know, get the same effect, right, stay behind us. So we're really drumming it up like entertaining these cats or whatever. And it was still fun. It was fun, was so much fun. Manybuddy Sam Calderoni was with us, so much fun. He's a good shot. We were all shooting and uh, but we got to the end and I guess they had just put out like the slacker quail the end that would like kind of not even want to get off the ground. They had really dizzy runners. Yeah, the runners. So goes, hey, damn, watch this. And he knew he was gonna like that, he was gonna they were gonna lose their minds for this little. 00:29:08 Speaker 3: Short barrel Towrenty gauge. 00:29:09 Speaker 2: You like gun, I think you actually saw it coming to you, Like it was so a quail comes off of this hill and it's just coming right at Reed and Regez damn watch this flips his gun around and grabs the barrel goes and he just goes. And they were like. 00:29:30 Speaker 1: Like you just said the game when he shot, they are like. 00:29:32 Speaker 2: Barrel out of this and so the the guy I was, so the guy goes. Although extremely impressive, I'll have to advise against uh swatting them out of the face. If you do me a favor, come on with a bunch of baseball guys around. I wanted to blow it up like Randy Johnson. This it was anyway, quail shoot is what I like. 00:29:59 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that when yeah, when they don't fly, or when they're bad, or when they're slow, it's just shoot. 00:30:04 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:30:04 Speaker 1: And before you in the comments, he cleaned that bird and there you go, shooting it in the face with a gun. Then well hitting it with the butt of the gun a little bit a lot different. Tell us about that. Uh, there's a there's a photo you posted when you were real young, holding up you're holding up a dove or something that your granddad. 00:30:27 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, we that's I mean who I learned it from. And he had a you know, he had the the like home depot bucket that he painted camo and put the swivel seat on top of it and we sit out there. We listened to Georgia game on the radio because it was always the first Saturday. And then uh, yeah, man, he's I have a couple of his guns, and that was the first time we would you know, we would I ever hunted was with him. And then my dad loves turkey and and stuff. 00:30:55 Speaker 3: But the Dove, like opening day a Dove season, that. 00:30:58 Speaker 4: First Saturday has like a special place on your heart because that's that's just childhood for me with my with my pops. 00:31:04 Speaker 1: Thathing's fun. Yeah, it's a lot, dude. A good day on the dove field is it's hard to beat. It really is like you get your limit and you know, play by the play by the rules and get a good field with no like you know, people rattling off six shots in their pump. You know, you're like, oh, that's like yeah. 00:31:26 Speaker 4: And there like one hundred and twenty yards away exactly. Now, it's a good it's a good day. It's it's one of my favorite things to do. Y'all cook them in the night or yeah, we'll do the poppers again. Yes, and Dove is just as good as Quilla is when. 00:31:38 Speaker 1: I loved of Mate too. I like to ask this question to people that I know like to hunt. If you had one day for the rest of your life to hunt one thing, one specific time of the year, in one place, what would it. 00:31:53 Speaker 2: Be put that busted up? While he's thinking about. 00:31:58 Speaker 3: This, that's a great question right now, I have two answers for you. 00:32:05 Speaker 4: For nostalgic sake, Dove dove opening Saturday with my da with my granddad who's no longer here are you on. 00:32:11 Speaker 2: A certain farm? 00:32:13 Speaker 4: Well, what we went down the best, the best shoot we ever had was down in like almost to Valdosta, Georgia. And I can't remember the exact name of the town. It was a little bit of town and they had a whole whole hog that they smoked. So we got done with the hunt and like had a whole hog barbecue that was amazing. So that's for nostalgic sake, that's mine. And then for like being out there and enjoying it. It'd be like, I mean, I want to go to Kansas and deer hunt, and I right. 00:32:44 Speaker 2: Hop on a plane with a Saturday. 00:32:45 Speaker 4: I would Oh my gosh, I love that like a cold like a really cold deer hunt me somewhere Kansas, and it's like you wake up and it's it's you and the breeze. And it's like even getting up in the morning pouring that cup of coffee, Like I love gas station coffee when I go get up early to hunt. That's something about like the memories of like a styrofoam cup of gas station coffee to get in the truck to go to the deer stand. 00:33:14 Speaker 3: Do we do it even more? 00:33:15 Speaker 2: The nostalgia? Now do we do that? I mean I'm the same way like and everything you're saying is pointing back to a to a different time. Yes, and I'm the same way. But yeah, I'm the same way. Like I can't even look at being the sausages in line that's in my thing, not be on a boat and not be like on a boat with my dad. Yeah, it's insane mine and I don't eat them any other time of my life. I don't eat a PBJ. And like I don't drink soda ever. Yeah, but like that's fishing to me. 00:33:46 Speaker 4: My grandma would make PB and j's and orange Phana, let's go and we put it on the John boat and me and my granddad would and my uncle Rudy would go all day long. 00:33:54 Speaker 2: You got uncle Rudy. 00:33:55 Speaker 3: I had an uncle Rudy. 00:33:56 Speaker 2: That's a cool name. 00:33:58 Speaker 4: Harley Davison, driving cigarette, smoking a bunch of tattoos. 00:34:04 Speaker 3: He was a dog. 00:34:06 Speaker 1: Shout out, sir, Yeah, man, No, I'm the same way, I think. I mean, it's it's kind of it's kind of the story you tell about just watching that turkey and not shooting it, and it's just like being out there's enough one, especially at this point in life where we've been all over the world hunting and got to take some amazing animals and and and kind of live out our dream of hunting big, the best and the big wherever that is. And I think now, I mean we just I just spent a couple of days in West Tennessee with with my dad, and. 00:34:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, we saw a lot of deer. There's a couple of deer down there that we're hunting. 00:34:45 Speaker 1: But like, bro, the best part of it was was us sitting in a fifth wheel camper, you know, cooking, eating cutting deer steak with pocket knives and eating doritos, you know, and just sitting there not and we didn't even talk about anything. 00:34:58 Speaker 3: We're just just hanging out of deer being there. Absolutely. 00:35:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's funny because you look back on some memories of hunts and like I remember those moments, Like my first deer hunt with my uncle Rob was like I remember waking up in the camper and like. 00:35:11 Speaker 2: We we that's we stay in too, We've got a camp. Yeah. 00:35:13 Speaker 4: Well, I remember waking up and I had like a little lantern and I like turned it on and it was cold outside and it was just me and him, and we drove to the gas station. 00:35:24 Speaker 3: We got the cup of coffee, we got. 00:35:25 Speaker 4: The little like powdered donuts, and he made sure I like wipe my hands off because I didn't want the smell. And then we, you know, we go out there and it's like, yeah, I like I got a deer and I remember getting the deer. 00:35:36 Speaker 2: Remember I remember that. 00:35:38 Speaker 4: I remember the morning, getting up and going powdered donuts in the n everything. 00:35:42 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:35:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's beautiful, man. I can talk about all day long, save no same. 00:35:49 Speaker 2: We will talk about it all the day long, all podcast long. I just for me, it's becoming more about more every year. It feels like it's more about that and less about that, you know. Sure, I mean that's fun, absolutely, that's part of it. 00:36:03 Speaker 1: But like, yeah, I love telling those stories and reliving those deer and giving them the deserve the respect they deserve. 00:36:09 Speaker 2: But well, it's kind of the reason that we go. I mean that that's what makes us get If that wasn't there, we wouldn't we wouldn't just go hang out in the woods, you know, we go to deer hunt. 00:36:18 Speaker 1: Sure, I think that's that's what pulls you out there, to the to the gas station. I tell everybody this, I feel like deer hunting would be perfect if you could go hunt him. Go go find that deer, Go hunt him, go go catch him, go you know, catch up with him, cut his back straps out, breathe life back into him, and let him run back and do it all over perfect. It's kind of kind of the and this is the journey, is the is the hunt man, you know, pulling the triggers kind of the worst part. 00:36:45 Speaker 4: But yeah, well, and it's like you'll probably have a different perspective on it, being that y'all have gone you know, we're all a lot older than you. But I've started to notice even like like we were talking about earlier, where I don't get the chance to go out hardly at all. 00:36:59 Speaker 2: Right now, those moments are. 00:37:01 Speaker 4: As much a a RESTful vacation as they are like it's a reset. It's like I want to be out in the woods and the only thing I'm listening to is my heartbeat and the trees and the birds. Like there's something to that too that I started to notice, like I need that as much as like I don't need. 00:37:21 Speaker 2: It, deer. 00:37:22 Speaker 4: But like like you said, it's an excuse to get out there. It's like I gotta go try to get it here today, and you're gonna sit out there and you're gonna enjoy the woods and silence. 00:37:30 Speaker 2: And pulling all the layers off of that. It's free. 00:37:33 Speaker 3: It's biblical, bro. 00:37:35 Speaker 1: Like I was listening to a guy other day and he's like he's like, you understand, like when a man gets in the woods, it's that's innate. That's that's where he was, that's where he was created, was in the woods. He got he got pulled to the garden. But like the man was created in the woods, and so there's no there's no you know, it's it's no I don't know the word I'm trying to say, but like there's it's it's no surprise that when a guy gets out of the woods he feels spiritual, it feels something is happening in. 00:37:58 Speaker 3: Him, because that's where we're created, where we designed. 00:38:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're there, Static Ray, the static houty God's Country. Welcome to New Guy Radio. 00:38:13 Speaker 1: The New Guy asks one question that may or may not derail the entire show. 00:38:19 Speaker 2: Put your headphones on. This absolutely no direction at all. This is New Guy Radio tuning out. They're just so good. You guys are gassing me up. 00:38:32 Speaker 3: Man, speaking of the language, gassing me up. 00:38:36 Speaker 2: That's famous. Now, Guy Ray is he got so. 00:38:39 Speaker 3: Popular on the show we had to get him his own section, his own segments. 00:38:42 Speaker 4: I can't yeah, I can't even see him. It's a intro back there and used to be a vocal, used to be a vocal both yeah, used to be a vocable. 00:38:49 Speaker 3: Oh I see the old glass and cover it up? 00:38:51 Speaker 2: Yeah all right, right, go hurry up. How crazy do we want to get? Crazy? 00:38:55 Speaker 3: Dude? 00:38:56 Speaker 2: We'll let you one a ten on the crazy meter. I won't help uh put it at us starting at six, says good clean six. What's the item you put in your grocery cart that you hope other people don't see. I don't mind immediately, Yeah, what's yours? The little uh ice cream cones? The little ones they have, the little tiny ones now just the one Scoopers like the one. They're kind of like ice cream poppers. That's what we should call it, because you can just buy, but you can nail nine of them if you're not careful. But I'll do that's my Probably my number one would be the baby cones. 00:39:32 Speaker 3: A little ashamed to put it up, Yeah, because it's like. 00:39:35 Speaker 2: Meat, meat, vegetable, vegetable vegetables. The other steberries, hearberries, BlackBerry strawberries for the heart, for the heart. Terrible. 00:39:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, mine's got to be. I haven't. I don't do it as much as I used to. 00:39:50 Speaker 4: I have a terrible frozen pizza habit. I love dirt cheap frozen pizza, the best frozen pizza in my opinion on Earth. 00:39:58 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go top three because you see them, sound connoisseurer, Oh I am. Give me your top three best frozen pep I must start three because the first one will be a surprise, perfect, perfect, red third one is Dejorno. 00:40:08 Speaker 3: It's the upscale. 00:40:09 Speaker 4: Is this. 00:40:10 Speaker 3: It's a nice one. 00:40:10 Speaker 2: I like that. So what's the retail in that. 00:40:14 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know that I've ever had a disorna, but people swear bomb they're really good, ye, really good. 00:40:18 Speaker 4: Cook them a little bit longer than it recommends, get a little bit crispier, and yah, they're great. The the second one is the public's brand frozen Pepperoni pizza My God, undefeated. And then the first one is a great value Walmart Pepperoni thin size, Nope, self rising. I think at one point in Athens they were three ninety nine for a whole pizza, and you're it's like fifteen times you're daily intake a sodium and it's like twenty five hundred counties. 00:40:49 Speaker 2: Eat the whole thing. 00:40:51 Speaker 4: I can crush a whole pek, I mean, not even a question. So yeah, that's mine. If it's in, I'm like a shamed to like put it up on the belt. 00:40:59 Speaker 1: Little the little the little red barren uh what are those called? The personal pants? Is what you get at a pizza hut, the little personal pan with the red bear. 00:41:11 Speaker 2: Dude, yep. If you're trying to tell me there's a better pizza place than Pizza Hut. I'll fight you, dude. 00:41:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you gotta get pan Pizza Hut in its prom well, I will say it's not. Now my favorite is uh is Jets. Yeah, that's the Jets eight corner. Feeling heavy, that's heavy. I'm always feeling heavy. 00:41:29 Speaker 2: I'm just talking about just like just eating, just like man maybe once again, maybe nostalgia and maybe post Little League pizza round up that keeps me wanting Pizza Hut. 00:41:38 Speaker 1: But I don't know if you've been in Savannah lately, haven't drove through the other day going to Ripley. The Pizza Hut is popping. It's they've remodeled it. It's like two stories. 00:41:48 Speaker 3: I didn't think. 00:41:50 Speaker 2: It's like they not have pizza huts anything. 00:41:52 Speaker 4: I thought they didn't have any in like in you could actually walk into a pizza hut. 00:41:56 Speaker 2: They do. 00:41:56 Speaker 1: They got two stories of them. And I'm talking about like wall glass walls. It's incredible. It looks like a like a business. 00:42:03 Speaker 2: Did you go in. 00:42:04 Speaker 4: No. 00:42:04 Speaker 1: I just drove by and I couldn't quit looking at it because I was like, this is not what we. 00:42:08 Speaker 2: Grew up with. We grew up with that staking ass salad bar in there. 00:42:12 Speaker 4: Man. 00:42:15 Speaker 1: Anyway, great job, right, yeah, a good uh, it's a good six. So you fronted an indie rock band I did. Yeah, Well, what was the name of it? 00:42:25 Speaker 2: We were Cloudland. 00:42:27 Speaker 4: I grew up camping in Cloudland Canyon, oh cloud and it's like my favorite place to camp. And I remember we were in a dorm room and we were like, we need to name. My buddy was like, what about Cloudland because of the camping thing, and we were. 00:42:39 Speaker 2: Like sure, perfect, So there it was. Yeah. 00:42:41 Speaker 3: No, we had a blast. 00:42:42 Speaker 4: Man. I cut my teeth truly, like those early days of learning how to do it yourself because that's the indie circuit. And I think the main difference that people don't really understand is like there's no real infrastructure for indie music, so like, if you want to make. 00:42:56 Speaker 3: It, you have to do it entirely yourself. 00:43:00 Speaker 4: There's not all Yeah, like country is this cool thing where you've got country fans and they support each other, and you've got like people that will listen to music because it's country that may not know you and then they'll get to know you at least. 00:43:13 Speaker 3: And you've got festivals that are dedicated to country. 00:43:15 Speaker 4: So you got shows, but India is like good luck, do it yourself, and it's like truly like to each their own. 00:43:21 Speaker 3: And so I loved it. Man we we. 00:43:24 Speaker 4: I remember we played the forty wat in Athens and it was like that's still one of the most talk about adrenaline, like one of the most. 00:43:32 Speaker 2: Like because you're like, I built we built this. 00:43:34 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, And I grew up like listening to my dad talk about you know who he went to see at the forty wyt oh and like all the history of that place and like all the bands that played there. I mean you look at the wall and it's like John may or kings Leon, you know, r em like really. 00:43:49 Speaker 2: It's it's everybody. 00:43:50 Speaker 4: And yeah, so we uh we did that for four years and then COVID hit, and uh I was just kind of like I was really praying through like a change because I had a normal job job as a behavioral therapist with with kids, like children with autism would come in and we would do a therapy called it was a b A, which. 00:44:12 Speaker 2: This sounds degree ish, did you. 00:44:14 Speaker 4: Know you I have a I have a counseling degree that like allowed me to do it. But you for the base level job I was, would look at this counseling counseling degree. 00:44:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, let me spill my life to you. 00:44:27 Speaker 4: No, it's I have a ministerial leadership and counseling degree. Look at you and uh no, I man, it's it's helped me a lot in writing rooms. Sure, but yeah, that entry level position I was at, you don't even have to have a. 00:44:42 Speaker 3: Specific degree for it. You just have to qualify. 00:44:44 Speaker 4: So you take a test and you you doc some hours, and then as you work up the ladder, like that's when you need your master's degree. But I loved it, like it was a great job. I got to work with awesome kids all day and like helping. Like we had a kid come in nonverbal, like couldn't couldn't talk, and he left our facilities in two years reading and writing and talking. 00:45:05 Speaker 2: Life changing. 00:45:06 Speaker 3: It was insane, life changing. 00:45:07 Speaker 4: But I knew, like that was that was when I knew, like that wasn't my calling. Like I I would daydream every day about playing music, and I would write. I would write songs on the computer I had, like Google Docs, and I would write lyrics when the kids were like at lunch and I just was like, this is one of the best jobs I could have, and I'm still wanting to not feel like it's right. 00:45:28 Speaker 3: So COVID and I like we pieced. 00:45:30 Speaker 2: Out hold on, I want to I want to go back just for saying, can you tell before you get too far past it? Can you tell me? Like how what are even the steps to helping a kid realize he can speak? Like, well, how do you even start that process? 00:45:48 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:45:48 Speaker 4: So the like what was the So it's a top down structure, so I had it was called a BCBA, which is a it's my boss. 00:45:57 Speaker 3: It's the person who makes the plan for the kid. 00:46:00 Speaker 2: Ooh, so like you'll take and then you just kind of help the plan. We implement the plan, implement the plant. 00:46:04 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:46:05 Speaker 4: So yeah, so it's it was it was different for every kid, sure, but like we would take a kid, we do it initial assessment, so we'd evaluate like strength and weaknesses, and then where the area of growth was, like what do we want to see do we want to see speaking? And so there's a couple of different ways to do it. The first main step and I'm not as like into this as other people would be, so I might be missing a little info. Essentially, what we would do is like we would take a kid that was nonverbal and we'd give him. We used a system called PEX, which was a signal based communication, So it would be on an iPad or it would be on this like electronic board where if you wanted a glass water, you would learn to click water. 00:46:49 Speaker 3: Crazy And initially the. 00:46:51 Speaker 4: Kids like, I like this because I can communicate with you and without exactly And then what we would start doing is we would model the language of the request. So if like he was requesting water all the time, we would start to model how to say the word water, and then you would basically taper the like the action the action, and you start to get him to. 00:47:17 Speaker 3: Start to speak it. So you'd reward it. 00:47:18 Speaker 4: So if he said wah boom, you're giving him the water, and then the next day he needs to say water. 00:47:24 Speaker 3: You know. 00:47:25 Speaker 4: But there's a lot of that's a lot more complicated ways to do it that I don't know anything about. But it was awesome. Had to be fulfilling, the most fulfilling, and I mean this, it was the most fulfilling job I ever had. 00:47:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, truly, kids. 00:47:38 Speaker 4: Are and those kids are like kids with autism are like the coolest kids. They're they're so honest and they they see the world in such a cool way that like it taught me a little bit more about like what I should value. And the parents of children with autism are like superstar like superhumans preach. 00:48:02 Speaker 2: Yeah it was great, it was great. Sorry, I was just curious. No, that's cool, it's cool. Yeah, how the communication works, that's that's uh, that's God's work, it is, for sure. And yeah it was great. 00:48:13 Speaker 1: All right, so you get some Yeah, I want to hear I want to hear your especially for for I think we have a lot of people that listen to this this podcast, like young guys, girls that want to do what we're doing. What you're doing, Come to Nashville, Move to Nashville. Walk us through your movement process, like I did you find a job here? I want to hear your Nashville the coming to National story. 00:48:34 Speaker 4: Yeah, moved COVID hit moved side unseen apartment. We didn't have time to pick out like where we wanted to go. And so we who's we My wife and I and she I drug her to this dude. We got there and my dad so my dad renovates apartment acomplishes, that's like his job. He was like, and he and he's honest with me, and he's but he's an optimist, like my dad is. 00:48:55 Speaker 3: Never like overtly negative. 00:48:57 Speaker 4: And he walked into that place and he looked at the sub floors and like the ceilings, and he was like, this ain't good. He's like, I'm happy for you, but like this ain't good. And so is a terrible apartment. And yeah, so we moved there. I got a job on Broadway at twelve thirty Club, which is like the restaurant bar on like right right beside bridge Stone across the street, yep, waiting tables and I was I got the job because I could wait tables during the evenings and then I could The idea was to write during the day. Yeah, but I moved here. I knew no one, like literally no one. I didn't know how to start. I was just like, Okay, what do I need to do to get to where I want to be? And so I have a I think I still have it somewhere. But it was like a notestock and it was a daily schedule and I was like, write a song today in the bonus room of the apartment. 00:49:50 Speaker 2: Go to work at four Fame apartment. 00:49:53 Speaker 4: Yeah, we had a little one. It sounds nicer than but it was no and it was a daily scipline. So I started and I would work five pm to like two am, and then I get home and I would wake up before work the next day and just go write something. 00:50:11 Speaker 3: And then I started learning garage band and then. 00:50:16 Speaker 4: The biggest thing, and I think I would tell anybody this who wants to get into this songwriting specifically is networking is everything. 00:50:23 Speaker 2: And I know that sounds like. 00:50:24 Speaker 3: The least artistic thing, but it's the game. 00:50:28 Speaker 4: So I went, and I remember I would go the nights I wasn't working. 00:50:33 Speaker 2: I would go to rounds every night. 00:50:35 Speaker 4: So I'd find like there was a round it Live Oak and there was around it a couple different bars in Nashville. 00:50:40 Speaker 2: Who'd you see that you're a member of, being like, oh, that guy's good man. 00:50:43 Speaker 4: I remember the first this is crazy to say, the first weekend in Nashville, I went to a round and it was Brent Cobb and Steven Wilson Junior playing together. 00:50:54 Speaker 2: A couple of decents, which was just nuts. 00:50:56 Speaker 4: And I remember like, because I'm like, oh, I'm gonna come to write country music. And then those jokers get up there and I'm like, well, I may never. 00:51:02 Speaker 2: Do Yeah, that's a couple of intimidating but yeah for sure. 00:51:08 Speaker 3: But yeah, no that happens. 00:51:09 Speaker 4: And then I start networking and I had a little system I'd have like people would finish their round, and if I liked the song they played, I had a little pitch like I would go up to him afterwards and my little thing. 00:51:20 Speaker 3: I'm new to Sorry, yeah i'm town. 00:51:24 Speaker 2: Let's hear the pitch, pitch to read what? Yeah, let's go back? Yeah. Yeah, he actually did this the first time he wrote Ago. Here's the reason why. Here's the pitch. Hey, man loved your songs? How would you start it? Yeah, I say a man loved here. Let's just do it? 00:51:37 Speaker 6: Yeah oh yeah picture yeah yeah wait he'd wait, Hey man, can I get you know? 00:51:50 Speaker 2: What's up? 00:51:51 Speaker 4: I'm Zach, I'm new to town, just moved here, and I'm a big fan of what you do. And yeah, I just I would love to honestly just pick your brain, maybe grab some coffee and see what we could do. 00:52:03 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, uh, I'm ahead out. I'm gonna give you you can get my number from this guy and uh, and we'll holler at perfect man. 00:52:10 Speaker 4: So that's how normally that was an optimistic one. Usually it would go hit me, this was the tale that I was never gonna hear from him. Get me on Instagram, and some people would would give me their numbers. I started asking, I started asking for rights, and that was a no go because nobody you don't want to write with you. 00:52:30 Speaker 2: Also, they don't have time. They probably don't have time now. 00:52:32 Speaker 4: So I started doing coffee and then you go, you'd get coffee, and then maybe you get one more coffee, and then eventually you develop a little relationship and then maybe that's for right, and then you build that circle. And so I built that circle and then built it to a point where I was writing, like on my own calendar so much that I got fired from the job on Broadway because I was calling out all the time. And I remember, I've never been fired ever for anything. And that doesn't mean I'm a like good worker. I just like I like to keep my like keep my job. But I remember like getting fired and like calling my mom and I was like, I don't, like, I don't know what I'm going to do, and Uh, so I just. 00:53:14 Speaker 3: Kept going it's the best thing to you know. 00:53:15 Speaker 4: Happened to me honestly, like if I hadn't gotten fired, it pushed me even harder to be like, all right, you've you've really got to go to now you don't have any. 00:53:23 Speaker 2: Money to make short yeah. 00:53:24 Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah I did that, and I mean fast forward to two and a half year mark was really like the the swing. 00:53:32 Speaker 3: So I had a goal of like four years. 00:53:34 Speaker 4: I wanted a pub deal in four years, which was ambitious because it can take it can take twelve years. There's no timeline on it, right, but I've played around. The big pivotal turning point for me was there was a round and somebody backed out of at Live Oak and my buddy called me and was like, hey, can you play it tonight in like an hour and a half And I was like yeah. And it was like all the publishers were there and they were kind of like, who's this guy. 00:53:59 Speaker 2: And present a win dude, and say yes, you have to see the opportunities come knocking on your door and just get presented to you in this town and if you're here long enough, they will, and if you're working, if you're working hard enough and brind and hard enough. They got to stick around. You gotta have enough stick around this for that call. When that call comes, you got to go. 00:54:19 Speaker 1: And it feels like the water's right here most of the time, dude. Yes, And if you could just keep your nose above it, if you just keep your nose above the water, man, for long enough, it feels like something, you know, something's gonna happen. 00:54:30 Speaker 2: And then you got to say yes. 00:54:31 Speaker 4: You have to say yes, and you have to have I tell people like, find a good circle, like I had such a good group of riders and friends that I came up with. Find the people that like are showing up on time. Ye, Find the people that aren't writing once a week, they're right in five days a week. Find the people that are like here to do it. Because there's a lot of people that come here and think they want to do it, and they. 00:54:57 Speaker 1: They don't or they expect it to happen for them. 00:55:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very true. And what's crazy is even in that circle, the circle made disband as you as you climb, but that that those people in that circle will still be successful. 00:55:11 Speaker 4: Man, and their on avenues, they're already like the dude. The class I came up with is so fun because like, we don't write a ton together anymore, and who who's the guys? So like Chase McDaniel, the Rider. I remember that he's the first one I met and he was at Live Oak and he played a song and I was like, this is insane, like this is And now he's got, you know, a couple of Vincent Mason, Like Vincent Mason hits like smashes. He's got I think a gold record with Vinnie and so he's already crushing. And then I've got buddies that are like on the cusp of having a number one. Yeah, I've got buddies that are like all over the map with different camps. 00:55:50 Speaker 3: But you're just watching everybody. 00:55:53 Speaker 2: Can everybody get pub deals and stuff? 00:55:55 Speaker 4: Man? We did a retreat the first summer. We one person had a pub deal. We did a whole retreat and one person had a pub deal, which, looking back, I was like, that sounds like a pretty brutal idea. These songs aren't going to go anywhere. But one person had had a pub deal. And then a year later we like he popped up on my calendar and we all had deals. 00:56:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool. 00:56:18 Speaker 4: And so that's I just find the people that like are going to push you to be better. And that's what all my writer friends have pushed me to be so much. 00:56:25 Speaker 2: Who's your class when you think about your class, like I think about my classes like Brad tercy H, Jacob Davis, Randy Randy, Yeah, I mean just you're that class that minor, yeah, minor, Jordan Davis yeah, Mitchell t Me and Mint Tim went to school, went to took a songwriting class together at m TSU wow, and ended up writing some songs Hardy. 00:56:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Laney yeah that's you. 00:56:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, I mean all those and that's what everybody, you know, I think of the ones that are are successful or have made it or whatever. And and honestly, man, it's like Jason Nicks like like, it's the guys who is the guys who haven't moved back home. 00:57:06 Speaker 2: Kind of didn't have a choice and you don't have an used. Absolutely, they had to make music. If it was in their basement, or. 00:57:13 Speaker 1: If it was in a publishing, if it was in their mom's, mom and dad's bonus guest bedroom, just made music. 00:57:18 Speaker 4: Yeah, wherever it is. Every day ye, push pushed through. It is a stick around town. Like people think it's talent. It's talent, but not really, it's people are You're not gonna move here if you don't have some level of talent unless you're completely delusional, which maybe you need to be somebody. 00:57:34 Speaker 2: And some are and some have had hits, some completely it works out for something right. People have had massive successes, But it's a stick around town. 00:57:40 Speaker 3: Man. You get here and just don't leave. Yeah, I can'tep going. 00:57:43 Speaker 2: I can't say it, don't burn bridges, don't be a you know who it is, turkey gobble over that. But this guys, the guy I'm thinking about, has I would say ninety percent hustle, yeah, ten percent talent. And it made us who can I say his name? It made us fear I know exactly what you're talking about. It made us furious because this guy was having more success than we were. But it was such a humbling experience that we were like, well, what's he doing that we're not doing. I mean, we're singing, we're writing, we're harmonizing, we're all these dudes' buddies. What is this cat doing? Dude? He was out hustling us one. 00:58:19 Speaker 1: Of the best networks, one of the best networks you've ever seen, and now he's mega rich and freaking kind of hit song run. I don't evenna say it's gonna conclude who it is. Yeah, but dude, just just I'm with you. 00:58:31 Speaker 2: I think. I think if you ain't ready to just make music broke, then you ain't ready to make music. 00:58:38 Speaker 4: It has to be it has to be what you like you said, it has to be what you have to do. 00:58:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't have this like half end thing. 00:58:46 Speaker 4: I mean, I worked with a ton of people with that restaurant that moved to Nashville like I did to do music and have never left because you get met with with security. It's money, Like I made more money at that restaurant waiting tables. 00:58:59 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:59:00 Speaker 4: Yeah, then in my first three years of songwriting. 00:59:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you got bills. You want that new car, Well, then you gotta pay for that, which means you got to work there. Yeah, which means you can't take that right or that thing at Live O ye round at Live Oak, because you got to be at the job. 00:59:14 Speaker 4: You have to be at the job. And so I mean I'm not saying go get fired or anything. But like get fired, quit your job. Bro, Are you here to make money or like at a restaurant dream? Here to chase a dream and music? Yeah, what's the payoff? 00:59:27 Speaker 2: I think? 00:59:27 Speaker 1: I think too, and I've never I wasn't in the circle or anything, but but Jason Nix did it for a long time and he saw this. He's like, dude, some of the most talented cats I've ever come across are are on Broadway all day long, every day, playing four shows a day. 00:59:41 Speaker 2: But they cannot give. 00:59:42 Speaker 1: It up because they're making so much money, making so much money playing for three four shows. 00:59:48 Speaker 2: Two shows down there, there's some guitar there's a guitar player right now getting ready for his gig, and I'm telling you it's probably one of the best players in the world. 00:59:57 Speaker 3: He's a smoker. 00:59:59 Speaker 4: I mean, that's and it's hard to explain to people the jump of like being on the road, you're not making any money, like as as a player, this guitar part and the guitar player, it's like, hey, do you want to take a huge pay cut? 01:00:13 Speaker 3: Come play these great shows. There's something that might not work out for you. It's a gamble. 01:00:16 Speaker 4: Like all the guys in my band, Like we hung out last night, and like I was trying to tell them how much I appreciate them for sticking it with me because we had a great year this year. But like them boys could go anywhere, They could go anywhere and find any job at a higher level, and they're sticking it with me. And I think there's something to that too, like are you will again? Are you willing to stick around? Because like that's what it takes the boys like talking to like Morgan's band, Like most of those guys have been there since day one in a sprinter van, and you're like, oh, they're on salary and they're playing stadiums now they must be so like no, they came all the way up. 01:00:55 Speaker 3: They just stuck it out. How special is that? Bro? It's amazing? 01:00:58 Speaker 1: Like what like like I mean, that's you know, comparing that to ball. That's taking a team that was D three nobody's nobody knew who you were. You weren't making no money, you were just playing ball, and. 01:01:11 Speaker 2: You brought it. You took it all the way, You took it all. 01:01:14 Speaker 1: The way, finished, got promoted to D one and now you're winning championship. 01:01:17 Speaker 2: And oways think about Jake Summers, Luke's drummer. Dude, that guy has never missed a practice. Yeah, he's never missed a show for sure, But he has missed a practice. I believe it. And it's like and and Luke is loyal to that. He's like that got his job forever. I mean, he's kind his job forever. And and the and the thing is is like, I mean, are there arguably better drummers. Probably maybe I don't know. I don't know drumming, but I'm just saying like it doesn't matter because he Luke would rather have that reliableness, reliability than talent. And it's the sticking it out thing all day, because. 01:01:57 Speaker 4: Like I said, you're not going to be in that gig if you're not good, for sure, you can be better, right right right, You're the best part of the team building side of things for me is finding people that are like bought in. 01:02:08 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's why. 01:02:10 Speaker 4: Because it's Nashville, you go find the best drummers and guitar players in the world. 01:02:13 Speaker 2: Here, what's this? How do you how do you get the song Riunner off your doorstet There's a running joke in nash how do you get the song, run off your doorstep, paying for the pizza, paying for the pizza du pizza, the musicians, everybody, guitar players. 01:02:26 Speaker 1: Yes, but it's that locker room effect too, Like when you go to a Loop show or when you go to a Morgan show. You see the well, all the dudes are pros and and like, and there their buddies and they're having good time backstage and and their kids are running everywhere, and everybody's comfortable. Nobody's there's no drama, there's no and you can and that translate to a performance like that. It's a much better experience with a band that is in tune, has been doing it forever, knows the parts that everybody's gonna play, maybe doesn't know the part, but but knows when to kick it, when to not. Then then somebody going up there and it's just, you know, the anxiety ridden and everybody somebody's pissed off at each other's band player paints the drummer whatever like you can you can sense that stuff, man, And they're just. 01:03:06 Speaker 4: They're generous, like like speaking for like Morgan's band and Luke's band, they're so generous with their knowledge and their. 01:03:16 Speaker 3: Time, like man, because they were where you were. 01:03:19 Speaker 4: They don't know me from Adam, and they're like, by the end of the tour, we're like buddies. And they didn't have to do that. And the reason they did that is because they came all the way up. We're in a sprinter van. They were in a sprinter van, yeah, all of them. 01:03:30 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:03:30 Speaker 4: And I think that's the cool thing about like the blue collar nature of country music sure is like the best dudes are the dudes that have just grinded for years. 01:03:41 Speaker 2: You know what. I say this fairly often on this podcast, But it's like, once you've come through that grind together and you've hit a little bit or you've had a little success, so maybe you got a song going, you can't tell it joke or nothing. You're touchable, dude, You tell him nothing. He earned it on his own. 01:03:56 Speaker 3: He already did it all. Yeah, it's it. 01:03:58 Speaker 2: The work is behind him now, it's just the enjoyment of the craft. 01:04:01 Speaker 4: You know. 01:04:02 Speaker 2: That's awesome, man, I kudos to you, man, were out there grinding. 01:04:07 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:04:07 Speaker 2: I respect that, man. I think this town does, and I think fans respect that. Yeah, I appreciate it. 01:04:11 Speaker 1: Sorry, what does it feel like going from from working downtown and on Broadway. Uh making your opry debut announcement? How I feel Uh walk us through that? How that even happened? 01:04:25 Speaker 3: So we were with the Luke Brian tour. 01:04:28 Speaker 4: We did the farm tour with him a few dates, which was talk about hostig and yeah. 01:04:36 Speaker 3: Dallas was out there. Well it was great and they're awesome, but. 01:04:39 Speaker 2: They love you. They love it. Georgia Boyd. 01:04:41 Speaker 4: Those are some studs, man, there's so much fun and y. We did an end of tour like huddle and it was like Luke got everybody out there, like it was crew members and staff and everybody, and so we went with them thinking it was just gonna be a toast to the end of the farm tour and like you know everybody and said thanks, and I'm standing up there and like my content guy that came out with me on that tour was like beside me, which I thought was weird, Like I was like, why are you feeling a toast like this is odd? It's like not even for me, it's for Luke saying things yeah, and uh, they get done with the toast and stuff and he's like, where's Zach And I was like what the hell? And so he pulls me up there and he's like, do you know what I'm doing right now? And I was like, I have no idea, that's what I didn't and the people, yeahs, just the whole staff in a big circle in front of the bus, the bush like loop area, and uh yeah. He was like, well, I just want to be the first to tell y'all that, you know, Zach's making his opry debut, and man, I didn't. I held it together in front of everybody, and then I went back on the bus and like bald ball my eyes out, because that's to me, the Opry is it. 01:05:52 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:05:52 Speaker 4: I mean, I've had amazing calls all year, but that's it, Like, that's the that is the dream. And so I'm I'm very great for the for the opportunity to do it, and I feel very like, I don't know, I'm just grateful for it. 01:06:05 Speaker 1: Man, by the time this comes out, this comes out the day after you play it, so you've already crushed it. 01:06:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm grateful for the opportunity. 01:06:13 Speaker 2: I really am. Yeah, that's awesome, dude, that's freaking sick. Man. That's awesome. 01:06:20 Speaker 1: That was a great conversation. Man, I we've written a couple of times, and I knew. I knew as soon as you know, we stepped in the room and started talking and chatting it up and throwing ideas around, started writing a song that that you were cut from the same cloth, and and uh, you know you you run across those rights every now and then with with a new artist where we're like, dang, I want to do that again. Like I believe in what this kid is doing. You're one of those, man, And so I appreciate you taking the time right with me and and and letting me you know, on the train a little bit. 01:06:45 Speaker 2: And I sure would appreciate you taking the time. 01:06:49 Speaker 3: I appreciate y'all know. 01:06:52 Speaker 1: I said this other day to Mayes, this man the same thing to you, Bro Skuy's limit, and you got it. You Uh, you got the right head on your shoulders. You got the right team around you. Sounds like you got a great scott of squad of songwriters around you doing the same thing you're doing. 01:07:05 Speaker 2: And it's fun. 01:07:07 Speaker 1: It's fun fun grinding, it's fun not being home and and and and getting to getting to do the journey together with everybody. 01:07:14 Speaker 2: I think you said it best bought in, like you got to be bought in, and you are, You're bought in. And yeah, I have no doubt you'll be selling out stadiums and no time. 01:07:22 Speaker 3: Lord Willem. 01:07:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we can't let you get out of here without singing something. 01:07:26 Speaker 1: Okay, little gravorite, Little Gravey gravy it on the end of the podcast, Little saw mill gravorite right here like that a lot? 01:07:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, what we got? What you want to do? 01:07:36 Speaker 5: Man? 01:07:37 Speaker 1: I keep going to Zach John King's a biscuit and he pouring saw mill graver in on the. 01:07:41 Speaker 2: Okay, that's enough, it's getting weird. 01:07:43 Speaker 3: Let's do that. Yeah, looking Box, I'll try my best, got that morning voice. 01:07:52 Speaker 7: Only two things in like make your words living, guitars are too good, firm feeling women great one. 01:08:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even my name and the Marquis lights. 01:08:09 Speaker 5: Hey, I just want you with me here tonight. Maybe it's time we got back to the basic love. 01:08:24 Speaker 3: Here we go, Let's. 01:08:25 Speaker 5: Go to Looking by Taxis, William and Willy and the boys m this successful life where lidies got us fe like the half fields in cool Swam Up Hang Williams pain songs, Newberries, trained songs in Blue Eyes, Cried Ray Haling, looking by Texas, Ain't no bad feel, no. 01:09:02 Speaker 2: Pain, tagt One Time. 01:09:07 Speaker 5: Out looking by Chi Ain't no bad feeling, no pain. 01:09:14 Speaker 2: Zach John Kenny, Guy's country. 01:09:17 Speaker 3: It's the best I got. 01:09:20 Speaker 1: I can't believe you knocking the table over in the dramatic intro, bro just like the entertainment bents, we gotta roll with the punch. It was a talking verse anyways. That's right, that's right. Hey, thanks for hanging out, man, thanks for having me. Jordan usually does this, but to COVID sent you a pair of boots. Thank you for coming on the man. 01:09:36 Speaker 4: So yeah, I got my I mean I probably need new us at the bottoms all scuffed out. I bought these the first month I was in town. Are those Covis? Yeah, we're ye, get up guy, right, that's right. The Coa's intro. That's right, Hey, y'all go check out. 01:09:54 Speaker 1: Zach John keen Man, what's what you got next year? 01:09:56 Speaker 2: What are you doing? 01:09:56 Speaker 1: You're playing the opry? You're gonna you already played the opry at this point. 01:09:59 Speaker 4: We got I mean, a new song every month just about next year, and then we've got we already have one hundred shows on the books and we're not done booking. 01:10:09 Speaker 3: So a ton of shows, rocketshit a lot of music, new music. 01:10:13 Speaker 2: You don't need some new pair of boots. 01:10:14 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hey man, check out Zach John King. Thanks for hanging out with buddy, Thanks for having me all right, we'll see how next time.