00:00:10 Speaker 1: Well, here we go. We are. We're another round of your boys, the Brother's Hunt. We are in the basement. 00:00:19 Speaker 2: We are in my this is old school Brother's Hunt. 00:00:22 Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like we just started again. Truth be that told, The truth be told that we it's just truth be told. It's not the true truth be told that we. Truth be told. Truth be told. We can't. 00:00:36 Speaker 2: You can't breathe in the mike either. You gotta because it's real quiet down here. You gotta like turn your head and you see what I'm saying doing. 00:00:42 Speaker 1: What if I'm sighing at you talking, you can still turn your head in sigh. Hopefully this will all be edited by our amazing editors in Atlanta or Bozeman or wherever you live. Appreciate y'all. Thanks shout out to you guys for editing our stupid stuff. Thank you for that. We've got a just a two way today bonus bonus. 00:01:05 Speaker 2: We're working on a Friday. Usually doesn't happen around around these parts for us, but we are literally in my basement. We have headphones on. Uh we're talking into two S seven b's that we got a long time ago for the Brothers Hunt podcast. If you if you're an OG, I remember buying them. If you're an og, are buying one, Yeah, I remember. 00:01:26 Speaker 1: Buying one too. 00:01:27 Speaker 2: It spells like w D forty down here, Dan sprayed w D forty on a office chair. There here is squeaking that we're not even that's not the one that's true. It's what we're not even using. 00:01:36 Speaker 1: It's that you don't hear. It's annoy I don't know, because it's not being sat in. So we heard that you guys wanted to hear from us instead of just the artist, and so we're going to try to do that today and let you get to kind of know us what we're excited about. What's going on. Uh, deer hunting focus, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be stray with you. 00:01:55 Speaker 2: Uh. 00:01:55 Speaker 1: These these bonus episodes where it's just me and Reed are gonna lean more hunting than me as to where I feel like GCP leads a little more music probably than hunting. 00:02:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely does now because we got we were told to go a little bit more music than hunting. 00:02:08 Speaker 1: Because that's the plan too. I guess it's kind of a behind the scenes look at what we're actually doing with GCP and what we're doing with with the brothers on as well. 00:02:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just gonna I mean, these these bonus episodes aren't gonna drop. They're not gonna drop. They're not gonna be a weekly thing like the God's Country Podcast. There's gonna be sporadic here and there. There's no video element. It's just gonna and you wouldn't you wouldn't want Yeah, you wouldn't want a video element right now. It's just the it's just the the the velvety vocals of it's pretty good reading Dan is, well, so's pretty good. Yeah, it doesn't look good down here, but it sounds pretty good. Let me set the scene for you. We've got there's probably ten deer heads hanging above us, some from Tennessee, some from Kansas, some from Kentucky, some from Mississippi, Oklahoma. I've got a legit road microphone stand that's like my setup, kind of looks legit. 00:03:05 Speaker 1: Dan has. 00:03:06 Speaker 2: We couldn't find another mic stand for Dan's and we couldn't hold them because there'd be too much sound. So Damn went to my hunt room and got my death grip bog pod has locked the s B. 00:03:19 Speaker 1: There's no no, it looks, it looks great, itels great. Dude. 00:03:22 Speaker 2: If you don't have a bog pod, by the way, that's a let me be that on hunter tip, especially if you have kids that are shooting starting to shoot guns or something. But even if you if you rifle hunt, crossbow hunt, whatever, man, go get spend the money invest in a bog pod. I think they're like one hundred fifty bucks. 00:03:39 Speaker 1: Especially if you're doing any distance type shooting. Dude. It's a cheat code, man. I mean I think when you're especially for like blinds and box lindes, or if you're hunting on the ground or something where you can kind of I mean, yeah, I don't know. It doesn't make really sense for like dearer stand like tree stands, tree stands. It also doesn't make sense honestly for a turkey. I mean it's just no, no, you know, when were you talking about maybe take two hundred and fifty three hundred yard shot, there's not a good place to get a rest or, and then you start talking distances way longer that I would. Honestly, I wish I would see more people using them for mega long distance shots, just because, like you said, it's such a it's such a I don't know, I guess. 00:04:20 Speaker 2: Is there a stigma with it? Like is there is like, oh he want with the bog pod? You know why because it's it's more sturdy. I mean if you're in a if you're in a box line anyway, now, like a ground blind, like a like a you know some type of material cloth ground blind. You can't have a rest in so you're either gonna if you're my dad, you're gonna break a stick on the way in there. 00:04:39 Speaker 1: That's kind of why. 00:04:40 Speaker 2: And it cut the tops off and stick that in the ground and put your rifle on it. But you know, a a a in a in like a box line or a house blind we call them in the South, Like you've got a window sill that you're gonna I mean, that's rock solid, you know. And and you wouldn't be in that housepine. You wouldn't just hold your rifle freehanded shooting a deer. You know, you're going to take a rest on the house blind, You're gonna put your hand on top of it. And this bog pod takes away all of that for you. It's literally it is the sturdiest holding your gun thing that I've ever seen or used. And yes there is an element where you're still putting the butt of the rifle on your shoulder and pulling the trigger. But I mean the the the steadiness of interest it is. It's very very much like a bent trust. 00:05:29 Speaker 1: I think for me, it comes down to, like, what is the most efficient way to put a great shot on an animal that I'm going to be taking a shot at. And if if that's the case ethically, then then you can't argue with how effective this is. I agree. Now where you get into some you know, taboo, it's like, well do you just used all the time shoot deer a one hundred yards? You know? I mean like it also has that taboo. Well, I'm just saying it. Also it's because it's an advantage. And when you start talking about advantages on killing and animals, I think that's where people get a little weird. Well, oh, you use the crossbow stuff, real bow, it's the same, you know what I mean. 00:06:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand that people are going to debate it, but I don't, you know, I don't. 00:06:11 Speaker 1: I don't. 00:06:12 Speaker 2: Let me just see it as an advantage. Okay, So I mean. 00:06:15 Speaker 1: Obviously talk about crossbows, then would you do you feel like there's you an able body human being if you use a crossbow instead of a real bow, Are you like shoot? Sorry? Are you? 00:06:29 Speaker 2: Are you like a weird hunter? Come fall apartment? Am I weird hunter? 00:06:34 Speaker 1: If I use a. 00:06:35 Speaker 2: Cross saying if you know, is there any I mean that that that that argument is going to happen with some you know, hardcores that are going to be like we're thirty five and and still work out once a year. You can you can shoot a compound bow. You can pull back seventy pounds, and but I think that's more of a of of a of a personal how how you want to go about things. I don't shoot a crossbow because I love my compound bow. 00:07:04 Speaker 1: Okay, let me take you farther. Guy knocks on the door, got a one eighty land in the back of his truck. He says, man, I shot this with my matthews at thirty five yards. Do you look at that guy the same if he pulls in here and says, man, I shot this at thirty five yards with my crossbow. Ooh, because I do you look at it as exactly the same? I see it differently. 00:07:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna say I'm gonna. 00:07:30 Speaker 1: Say, whether I want to or not, I see it differently. 00:07:33 Speaker 2: If you're hearing that ring and Dan is quite. 00:07:36 Speaker 1: Addressing every single thing that happens. 00:07:38 Speaker 2: Go, I'm just saying, I mean, yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I don't think it should be looked at different I think. I mean, I think you've got thirty five yards. You got that that mature one hundred and eighty class dear thirty five yards from your standing challenge. 00:07:53 Speaker 1: Right, So you look at it a thirty five yard shot with a bow, it's more difficult. 00:07:58 Speaker 2: It's more challenging than. 00:08:00 Speaker 1: Thirty five yard shot with a crossbu for sure. 00:08:02 Speaker 2: For sure, I wouldn't say thirty five yards with a boat was more Okay, so let's let's let's go this route. Then if if it's more challenging, so is it more ethical because it's more challenging to choose the less challenging option to because your percentages goes up of recovering a shot animal. 00:08:24 Speaker 1: Right, So now we circle all the way back around to what you were saying Originally, it ultimately comes down to what challenge are you looking as the hunter? Yeah, but how people perceive it, it's gonna be differently, you know, and that's gonna be. 00:08:37 Speaker 2: That's gonna be with everything. 00:08:39 Speaker 1: All right, anyway, we're already in dude, that's it. That's what we're doing. It's gonna be deer, it's gonna be dear central. 00:08:44 Speaker 2: And that was a good little opening banner. We've got our little boys turning one tomorrow or one August the third, and tomorrow it's June twenty ninth or June twenty sixth today, So twenty seventh is tomorrow's birthday. 00:08:58 Speaker 1: It's a Saturday. 00:09:00 Speaker 2: And these uh, these these one. 00:09:03 Speaker 1: Year old birthday parties around here, Well, the whole thing has changed or something else, I mean, at one point, and maybe our peers did it too, But all I can remember is having those pictures of us at the end of the table. You're at the end of the table. There's like a cookie monster cake in front of you. 00:09:17 Speaker 2: Big bird cake, yeah, bird cake, A lot of there's there's a there's a there's like a tablecloth, like a colored tablecloth, or it's a couple of candles, kids all around you, those tights, yellow chairs everywhere. 00:09:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that was it. 00:09:31 Speaker 2: You did it. You did the church, bro. That takes how long to set up? Five minutes? Maybe pay somebody to make it, make a big bird cake. 00:09:39 Speaker 1: I mean you didn't pay somebody. You went to Walmart and got it. You paid Walmart. 00:09:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's the same thing. You go to publics and say, hey, I want to I want to a Oak. Is Oaks different about it? Oak's going for gold tomorrow. That's that's the theme. There's themes to these birthday parties. Now, so it's the Olympics is about to come on, and that'd be a cool thing to talk about. We didn't put that on the list, but we can. We can talk about the Olympics. I think people are interested in the Olympics. I'm excited to watch them. I'm excited to watch especially since there's a golf element. 00:10:12 Speaker 1: Now. Man, we're getting old. So Oak is. 00:10:16 Speaker 2: Going for gold tomorrow. There's a banner his high chair is. My task today is to do a three tiered high chair in front of like a three tiered level in front of his high chair. Like he won, he's like the number one. He like won gold. And then there's like a third place level. You know what I'm saying. 00:10:37 Speaker 1: So you see it. 00:10:38 Speaker 2: That's that's what that's what year old birthdays are now. It doesn't take five minutes to do it. That's to set up, it's it's it's a day, it's days. So that's where That's what's going on around my house. 00:10:50 Speaker 1: I'll tell you honestly, we just buy one. We just ran a bunch of jump houses, or have grandy Land over, Granny Land's coming and cook something. And then our dad are our dad who is referred to by our kids as Grandy. His name is Randy the Greatest all the time, and so Grandyland is. My dad is addicted, addicted to Facebook, marketplace and buying things extremely cheap. Recently, my mom and I have had many discussions in front of him. This is not like behind his back, but that has nothing to do with the item he's actually buying. It's the deal. He doesn't care the deal if he's going to use it, if you're going to use it. Matter of fact, he will buy things just in hopes that somebody will use it. But it's the the challenge of buying something below retail price to chase. That's what turns him. 00:11:47 Speaker 2: On the satisfaction of buying. He did it just He called me yesterday about one about buying a twelve hundred dollars trolling motor for two hundred dollars, that's he will he will buy I don't care if he bought one two days ago. 00:12:00 Speaker 1: He'll buy another. He'll buy another one. 00:12:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna sell it, which I told him. I was like, you're never gonna quit saying that, because you're never gonna sell that stuff. You just you just love to deal. And and the thing is about a troller motor. Somebody eventually is gonna need a troller mode to. 00:12:15 Speaker 1: See what you're doing. Right there is what he does in order to justify every single thing. That's why his garage looks the way it does. What are we talking about? 00:12:24 Speaker 2: Facebook? 00:12:24 Speaker 1: Market Place? Yeah? 00:12:25 Speaker 2: And birthday parties? Grandy Land yep. 00:12:28 Speaker 1: So Granny is tough. 00:12:30 Speaker 2: So we don't have anybody telling this direction that's what to talk. 00:12:34 Speaker 1: About or where to go. What granny Land is is my dad bought a blow up play center. It's like it's like a kid jumpouse. So then he he saw how much they loved it, and he bought another one. So then it became like a thing where you could have two blow ups. Well, so then what comes next snowcombe. She for sure. Yeah, that's the next progression. So now there's a. 00:12:56 Speaker 2: And then what comes next? Popcorn? 00:12:59 Speaker 1: So now there's a two blow up things. So it used to be ident they look great, but it used to be the back of the truck. Well, now it's a four by eight trailer that comes and there's two blow up things. You better have a mega extension cord. There's uh cords with three pronged inputs. And then there's cotton candy, there's snow, there's popcorns, any flavor you want to. So we just tiger. 00:13:23 Speaker 2: You want tiger's blood, he's got it. 00:13:25 Speaker 1: And looking back on it, probably a minimal investment in order, you know what. And Jason, our brother in law, he cleared me up on this, he said the other day he said, here's I was probably griping about it, honestly, and he said the other day, well, here's the truth, man, He said. Yes, the garage is full of stuff, the barn is fullest, he said, But it's not like he's spending thousands and thousands of dollars on this. He's really not very minimal, very minimal, that's what I'm saying. So and it creates a great birthday party. 00:13:54 Speaker 2: So there's memories for life. I would say memories for life. 00:13:57 Speaker 1: There are drawbacks, and they're also advantages to your dad being a absolute marketplace addict. 00:14:04 Speaker 2: Absolutely, So my backyard tomorrow will be two jump houses, popcorn, snow cones, cotton candy. My little sister's incredible painter. She does face paintings at these things. We said, it's we set up like picnic tables around here, and yeah, oaks going for gold. Tomorrow, I'll have the Olympics on the on the big screen roll around probably it always it always does. 00:14:27 Speaker 1: It's been raining, and I'm very glad that. God we've been in a bit of a drought and I had the biggest, tallest, prettiest clover man that you've ever seen in your life, and dude, it just absolutely zapped, didn't. 00:14:41 Speaker 2: But it's rain. 00:14:42 Speaker 1: It's coming back. 00:14:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been in we've been in a drought. 00:14:44 Speaker 1: Probably been a month, did you say that. I think you said that it's probably been a month of no rain. In the last four days, it has rained every day. 00:14:50 Speaker 2: I think it's actually been like a month in like two and a half weeks, like we're going on six or it was like a seven eight week drought. Yeah, and not only like, it wasn't a seventy degree drought. We're talking about ninety five and five heated next. 00:15:03 Speaker 1: That was like one fifteen in some days. 00:15:05 Speaker 2: Miserable Bro's miserable. Miserable rings back. 00:15:08 Speaker 1: Everything's kind of popping back up. I talked to some boys about what to do with my clover, and uh, luckily I sprayed the grass out of it before we had the drought, so it was up and thick, and then it zapped. 00:15:20 Speaker 2: You. Cleth throwed on it like yeah, and I think. 00:15:25 Speaker 1: No, I didn't. So my plan was to hit it with cleth. Tell them what cleth does. So it kills all grasses. 00:15:32 Speaker 2: Basically fifty fifty species of grasses, which comes most of them. 00:15:35 Speaker 1: If you, yeah, if you have grass growing in through your clover, which is very typical, you can hit it with the cloth. Usually it'll knock it way back. I'm not just saying that every time. So you can hit it with it and it drops the grass down. And then usually if you have some minimal weeds come up, which is what I did and I would have before d bea it that too. Foro dB. You all weeds and does not kill clover, right, that was my original planet. When this drought hit, I actually left the weeds in the clover to give them some sort of shade from the heat, you know, And honestly, I think that has at least provided enough that it didn't just absolutely die, because there's already clover like coming back three leaves out. I mean, it's it's an inch high. But I think by the time September rolls around, if we can get some consistent rain in August doesn't just completely dry us out again, it's gonna be money. And I'm probably not gonna cut those weeds honestly, until I thought about cutting them yesterday. I'll be honest. But just you just don't want to. It gets annoying in your brain. But the truth of the matter is it's not doing it's not hurting the clover. You feel like, oh man, I got weeds in there, and to be honest with you, the deer have been in there more with the standing cover, and I think we forget that as hunter. Sometimes we want everything to look pretty. We want everything to look like eye want everything to be completely cut and what we see on TV, right, But in reality, I've had more success leaving some stuff standing, so I'm gonna cut them. I'm gonna knock them back again or either hit them with a two four DV. But the clovers could come in back, man, And velvet season is only a month out. 00:17:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I mean dirty they call them dirty beans. Dirty beans. They eat them just up, just like regular bean field. Dirty beans is just you You're just you know, planting beans on top of ground, up the ground, but until at the ground and then throw beans in them and let everything grow up together. And it doesn't look as pretty as your you know, aag fields on the side of the road, you know that farmers have or or whatever. But but deer, I mean, dude, some of the some of the most deer I've ever seen in a field as beans and other you know junk growing up at it. 00:17:51 Speaker 1: I've had a bit of a journey with my food plotting over the course of the last abbas six years, trying, I mean, because initially like I won't be on everything in beans, put beans everywhere, and that progresses right, and then you start figuring out that long especially as. 00:18:05 Speaker 2: A Southern hunter that has a hunted over beans, so you just when you hunt the Midwest like we have all you're hunting as cornfields or beanfields, and that's all you see in these TV shows and all that stuff. Area giant two hundred deer getting shot and coming out of bean fields or going to beanfields. So there is a thing that happens to the southern hunter's brain. That's like, man, if I can plant five acres of stand of beans right here, I'm gonna draw every deer in this county to here. 00:18:30 Speaker 1: Which is true. I mean they kind of kind yeah, kind of. I mean, they do absolutely love soybeans. But what I've noticed is that it's more like a time of the year when they hit them so for mine. And like I said, this has been in progression over the past seven years. I realize that like when they're coming up out of the ground, they mow them. I'm talking about soft palatable. They wait for that sun to go down, and the second it drops, they're in there killing I mean as much as they and eat. And then the beans come up and they're green, and they made much of them. They still come in there at the top, see the tops. Yeah, and then they when they start to turn yellow, Dude, they're not in them I mean, like. 00:19:12 Speaker 2: But here's here's a there's an argument toward that too, is yes, and I and you would think, like. 00:19:17 Speaker 1: Well, speaking from experience, that's all I'm saying. 00:19:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you would think, oh, well, they're turning yellow, so the taste is changing and it's not as palatable to a deer. But right around the time, just about right around the time those beans start to go yellow, if you get them in when you're supposed to get them in, acorns start falling. And I don't care from my experience, I don't care what food plot you have, if you have standing beans, if you have standing corn, if you have turnips, just just the luscious wheat rye filled out there, rape filled out there. When acorns start dropping, deer do not deer gonna that's the first thing stick to go back into the especially southern deer because this place is covered with oaks everywhere. Southern deer southern white tail will flood the woods to eat acorns first. Yeah, I agree, just because it's I mean, but you know, to. 00:20:06 Speaker 1: Me, man, I've noticed, like even I agree with what you're saying, but it almost seems like food plots here to me don't get mega effective until late season. Yeah, I agree, So you have to decide, like, there's so once again it's figuring this is a trial by ra right over the past twenty years of US hunting, I feel like this is just starting to kind of happen. So you have to decide, like, when is my most effective time to kill that bot? Right? Is it early season? If it's early season, because you've got to go back to work and you got two weeks off in September, maybe you do want to hunt those bean sprouts. 00:20:49 Speaker 2: Right, and we didn't talk about that. You said you said late season, early season. I feel like is just as important in a in an area in a time of year where food plots can come in to play and you can kill a mature buck. You know, a food plot still on a summer pattern just out of velvet. Hasn't the time of day haven't hasn't switched yet, that that photo periodic time hasn't started changing. Like they're still in the summer pattern. They're still going to be on food. It's going to be late in the afternoon. I feel like you can a great time to target a big deer is going to be, like you said, late season, but also right at the beginning of a BOST season in the early season totally. 00:21:27 Speaker 1: I mean, and I think that's a I would say a recent strategy of ours. When you look at the timeline that we've been hunting, I would say the most recent cornerstone strategy that we've come up with within the last three years is really maximizing that early season. That early BOST season, we. 00:21:47 Speaker 2: Didn't bow hunt. I mean, how old were we till we started bow hunting? 00:21:50 Speaker 1: Twenties? 00:21:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I kind of loved it when I was in high school, just because I want to do something different. 00:21:55 Speaker 1: But like we hunted. 00:21:58 Speaker 2: When I think of my childhood and I think of it being freezing cold, I think of rifles. I think of orange vests, and and you hunt from Thanksgiving on and that's when rifle that's when raffles season happens for us. Dad would go a little bit earlier because musload came in, but he wasn't a big bow hunter. He didn't have a lot of time, so he kind of he tried to maximize you know, his time too, But we didn't bow hunt, and and and never really we're in the woods until until November. Yeah, I would say November but now, I mean now that you're if you're a bow hunter in Tennessee, you have what a month half of September all of October, you have a month and a half of deer hunting where deer still still patternable, and getting into late October they start changing. 00:22:45 Speaker 1: I feel like there's a couple of changes that happened. I feel like you go from straight summer pattern into like September pattern when and there's not a lot of people in the woods and they're still vulnerable, but there is a heightened sensible weariness I feel like from them. But then when October kicks in that first muzzloader, it seems like deer really changing. 00:23:06 Speaker 2: I think that's the musloader. I'll come into November, I'm sorry. 00:23:08 Speaker 1: Later, but the mid October. 00:23:09 Speaker 2: But the loll, the loll is starting in October, and I don't I don't like the word lowell. I don't like the October loll. Yeah, I don't want cloud that hangs over deer hunters because it's not a loll. They're out there, They're still they still got to get water, they still got to eat a certain amount of protein to day, they still have to get up and move every day and and that's been shown by you know, research throughout the years is there's not a loll you're just not seeing them. You're just not seeing They're just not coming they're not on their summer pattern anymore. Where they're coming out in the same field that's always the same. 00:23:41 Speaker 1: Well, that's also that same time that you're talking about that deer seemed to quote unquote leave food plots right he can just starting to dose are coming in honestly, and it just changes from food to breed you're in that. I feel like October is that pivotal month, pivotal pivotal month, pividal that changes for food to breed, and when that starts happening, things change. And also the woods are changing as far as leaves start falling. You know, you got other things going on. And then to me personally, my favorite week of the year to hunt Tennessee is no remember the first we can. 00:24:14 Speaker 2: Remember and that's kind of a recent thing for us too, is delving if you may into into early season Musslow or that first and I think it was different. I do think where we're at now in life, where we live, you know, like geographically in the state of Tennessee. I do feel like, and we've talked about this on the GCP podcast, like there there's a line that runs through Tennessee where the rut and behavioral behavioral tendencies of big bucks and deer start changing sooner where we're at now than they do where we hunt in Southwest Tennessee. So I think it's it's a learned that used to in Southwest Tennessee and it's still you know, still is a is a real thing there. The second and third week of November pheel like the first week of number November up here, if that makes sense to you. 00:25:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, But our buddy of North says his that week for him is the last week of last week of October. It does trickle down, and it's been fun to watch, I mean fun to learn. Is that you can't just and that's essentially what I'm trying to say about all this. You can't just categorize that deer going to be acting the same one hundred and fifty miles north of you as they are where you're at. You can't just say, well, the rut comes in. 00:25:35 Speaker 2: No, it's time. No. And that's a great point you bring up, is don't and this is what I've learned over the past few years. Like just like you're saying, don't base what's going on on your farm by what's going on your buddy's farm one hundred miles away or fifty miles away, fifty miles north. Base base base your your strategic huntingness minse mindset base on previous years because in your area, within your area, on our farm in southwest Tennessee, on your farm here in middle Tennessee, on our buddies farm North Tennessee, our buddies farms in Kansas. Like from year to year, those things that are the changes, the buckets, the dos coming into heat, the buck's going into rut, the velvet season, when velvet starts come off. Those are going to be just about the same every year. 00:26:29 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:26:29 Speaker 2: Now, now each deer's individually different, so velvet's gonna come off on a different day. One dae is gonna but it is researched that within about three to four days. And on that farm is when you're gonna, like, your rut's not gonna be. Last year, your rut was in the third week of November. Your rut's not gonna be the second week of November on that same farm. 00:26:52 Speaker 1: I mean, that's getting pretty close. It may be the sacond. 00:26:54 Speaker 2: Week, but it's going to be that third it's gonna be the same week. 00:26:57 Speaker 1: I'm just saying different does. 00:26:59 Speaker 2: Come in a different time, and you're going to. 00:27:00 Speaker 1: Have a If your rut is usually the last week of November, it's not going to be the first week of November. I'm with you, right, Yeah. 00:27:08 Speaker 2: So that's that just just to circle around to my point, like, don't base what other people's deer are doing on their place, Don't base what your dear doing. 00:27:18 Speaker 1: Don't compare them to that. I think that's a real issue for new hunters. Is like luckily for us this podcast, the relationships that we've had have given us an insight for the past probably ten years on people that hunt all across the country, Like consistent, we have consistent people that we talked to in the Midwest, we have consistent people that we talked to in Kentucky, we have consistent people that we talked to in Mississippi. And taking that information as far as like whitetail goes and going okay, this is man every year, every year, every year, every year, and you start realizing after you've been seriously hunting for ten, fifteen, twenty thirty years exactly what you're saying. It's kind of a trickled effect. So for me, I personally think like a good example would be the last week of October the first week of November. That's when it pops on my farm and I know that I need to be in the woods if I have a target deer that I'm hunting. To me, those are more important than the rest of the year, which brings me to a good point. So back in the day, we thought when the first day we got to be there till the last day, sitting there bro and chasing them, right, And I feel like that's a stigma that we grew up with too. Our dad wanted us to do that. You know, we wanted to do that, and it's not a bad thing. But what you're doing is eventually the deer start adapting what they're doing around you. 00:28:49 Speaker 2: You're training your deer. 00:28:50 Speaker 1: So I feel like we've been more effective going okay, once we pinpoint those weeks. 00:28:56 Speaker 2: And this is just strictly for big buck hunting. You if you want to if you want to go out there and just hunt and you want to brown us down. 00:29:03 Speaker 1: Well, you just set it, deer move, go do it man, deer doing the thing, regardless of what you're doing or what time of year it is. Every day. Yeah, so there's always i mean, blind square, fine nut, you know what I'm saying. So there's always a chance that they can come walking by you, which brings us to trail cams, and and how much that's helped figure out what you're doing, when they're doing it, and when you need to be in there. Yeah. Absolutely, but I would advise against just trusting the one article you read in Deer and Deer Hunting that says, dear rut November thousand percent, yeah, thousand percent. So all that to say, we've got trail cams running right now. 00:29:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's dear, it's dear mode. It's it's rainy today. Actually, I walked out that side this morning. Uh yeah, I walked outside early and it felt like that late September. 00:30:01 Speaker 1: It is the switch that goes off early October. There's a switch that goes off in the summer. Though you feel it. You feel like, okay, we made it out of desert, dry killing summer and we are now progressing into I should probably be shooting my bow, Yeah, no doubt. 00:30:16 Speaker 2: I just ordered twelve new eraws. Yeah max. But I got the sds, the smaller diameter. I'm gonna try those out. I've Yeah. I opened my bow the other day and I had three maximum reds in there, and one of them the veins were split up. So I was like, all right, it's time to it's time to good. 00:30:37 Speaker 1: Keep shooting mine. But we got trail cameras out. What are you put in front of your trou cameras right now? Just just salt? I put a trophy rock out. 00:30:49 Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, those deer and especially on and around water and holes where that saltill dissipat into the ground and and just you know, And but it's on amst like creating, you know, because we have what like sixteen seventeen cameras out and over time you can create a mineral lick area so you necessarily don't have to throw a trophy rocker or assault block in it. 00:31:13 Speaker 1: Every year. 00:31:14 Speaker 2: They're just naturally gonna come to it because the ground has got salt in it and it's gonna become an. 00:31:21 Speaker 1: Area where deer frequents. 00:31:23 Speaker 2: So that's early season and then in the summer, I kind of like to keep I mean, I put cameras out probably a month go. I love to watch the growing process. I love to watch them from nubs all the way to now where you can pretty much tell what a deer is going to be, you know, sitting here in late July, but yeah, early season, I just go, I battery them up, get the firmware right on the cameras and go stick them on those mineral licks and start to you know, and when you'll change it from you know, if there's a new spot like this place in southwest Tennessee. We just got some some tops of some ridges bulldozed and areas cleaned up, and so now I will you know, the next time I go down there, I'll probably throw a trophy rock in front of a tree on that new food plight that we got created, and throw camera up and just see if there's anything to run to that ridge that I'm not getting, you know, three hundred and four hundred yards away down in the bottom of that farm. 00:32:18 Speaker 1: I think it's a hard concept for people that don't live in the South to really understand the way that we hunt deer and the way that we hunt deer in the West, I feel like there's such great expanses and such acreage that you can just kind of walk until you find something or or get back into a place that doesn't get hunted. 00:32:38 Speaker 2: And just the number of animals out there. 00:32:40 Speaker 1: To find the age class that you want. But here we're talking about much, much, much smaller properties. So what we do is run a lot of cameras in order to see the same deer that we have been seeing years before, in order to watch them grow and turn into something that we want harvest. I mean, I've taken one buck in from Tennessee in the past probably five years. And the whole point is like I was watching those deer. I've been watching deer and allowing them to get to an age class that I personally wanted to take. It goes right back to your challenge thing that you were talking about earlier. It's like, Okay, could we go out there and shoot some three year old four year old eight points? Yeah? Are those great deer? Great deer? Have I done that? Absolutely? Am I still doing that? No? I'm not because I to me, the challenge is more than the picture on Instagram. It's like I want to be challenged, and what I'm doing and what I'm trying to accomplish. So there maybe years. This year, I didn't kill a turkey this year. I didn't kill a turkey this year, but I called some in for buddies. I called one in for Dad. I had unbelievable experiences. And I don't even get hung up on like the killing of an animal anymore. It's just like, what do you want out of your hunt? You want the challenge, That's what I want. So we're running trail cameras, We're looking at. 00:33:58 Speaker 2: Deer and to you the challenge, increasing the challenge and killing a more mature buck than you killed before. Just just this is just me to you for the listener, Like what in it in that challenge? Is it the is it the what makes you? Does it make you love it more? Does it make you look forward to it more? 00:34:20 Speaker 1: Does it for me personally? It's just knowing that there are advantages that we have as hunters, like trail cams, like food plots, like private property, and that there's still an. 00:34:31 Speaker 2: Element box Linds think goodness, we have a box line. 00:34:33 Speaker 1: And I'm saying there's still elements of having to grind it out and having to earn it, you know, And I mean for me, that's what that I know. We talked about this deer all the time, but that's what that deer was for me. That I took last year was okay, start to finish. We I've watched this deer for four years. Okay, he was two year old when I started watching him, so I knew what he was. I knew he had the potential. Right Uh, he's living time to my property and I don't hunt him. I have him met seventy yards on the final day of deer season when he was a five year old. I haven't met seventy yards literally head down, eating eating. 00:35:12 Speaker 2: Out of him for thank god, you didn't shoot that deer. 00:35:14 Speaker 1: And he was and he was a mega deer then. 00:35:17 Speaker 2: No doubt and everything, but he didn't have a seven drop time. 00:35:20 Speaker 1: No, and so we we elected to pass the deer that year. Still running the risk and there's risk that comes with that every time because it's like, you go, he made it through season. Yeah, he made it through season, but there's a whole another year to goo of making it. Not getting hit by a car, not contracting disease, sure, not contracted cw D or ehd or breaking an ankle, breaking an ankle, Well, yeah, there's tons of other things that you're at risk zero control outside of the yeah, exactly. So for that to come full circle and uh, and and season come we start getting pictures of him again. He has a seven inch drop time on one side of two inch drop time on the other. And he's just an absolute mega stud Tennessee Southern deer. It's like seeing that and and and and and executing the process correctly that's having to happen. Uh, there's no way I can go back right, like and I and I and I knew that even going into it. Like once again, that's why I hadn't killed deer in years, you know, because I enjoy that. That process to me is hunting now, like as to where hunting back in the day was just being out there and getting after it and getting dirty and so passing deer old man, oh man. But like I find myself now, I have a food plot close to the house that I can literally see off my back porch. Well, when deer out there, I want they're familiar with me. Like it's a different deal. And I'm not. I'm not, I'm not right, Hey, let's go right forward to through and let's not do this. Do this, like, I stay off that ground because I want those deer to feel as comfortable as they possibly can. Now, are the bucks smarter than that? Absolutely? The bucks are way smarter than those does that come out there and just eat. 00:37:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they know they those bucks know when you're hunting them and when you're not. I think so well, when you're watching them and when you're when you're not sure when. 00:37:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm. 00:37:12 Speaker 2: Here, sad Uh. Here's an interesting thing about that deer that you killed last year. I know we do talk about, but that deer just spans a lot of lessons for us. 00:37:22 Speaker 1: Uh. 00:37:24 Speaker 2: He was he was six years old when you killed him after because he he was just this giant six points and either was a five year old man like very worthy of hunting and trying to take that deer. But Dan gave you one more year and he grew. He dropped a seven inch drop time. Well from that deer. The research we did on age structure of bucks and that five to six jump, this is really interesting is that if there's any deformalities in that deer's genetic and they're going to show it is usually between five and six and five and seven, like they're going if they're gonna drop but they're gonna put a drop down on. It's usually gonna be after that, the after they turn five going on to seven. Why that is, I'm not sure. Just that is so interesting to me. And so don't kill deer till they're six, only kill eight year old. 00:38:19 Speaker 1: I mean, that's exactly not what I was about to say. I think it's totally fine for you to shoot a three year old. Absolutely two year old. 00:38:29 Speaker 2: Bro, it doesn't and and and and I know there's a there's the guy that's gonna be like, well, that's you know, you shouldn't do that. And I kind of I kind of like Bro used to used to I'd have been like, yeah, man, you should only shoot for Bro. Get out of my face, man, yeah, get out of here, Get out of my face. If somebody wants to kill a three year old deer, supposed to kill a two year old deer, have at it, man, sure, No, I have don't shoot them with spots, and don't shoot them with the with their moms. That's that's kind of no. I know there's some body that's just personally I can't do it. 00:38:58 Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying get out. 00:38:59 Speaker 2: Of my like you can kill let's talk about that. 00:39:01 Speaker 1: I mean there was a time, probably ten years ago that we would literally be mad at folks for shooting three year old deer in a different state. It wouldn't even affect our hunting one bit at all, but it was just like, why would you do that? Why would you think? Why would you? And I'm just I've completely changed on that. 00:39:20 Speaker 2: Well, I think that's just that. Yeah, And it's just it comes with age, right, like. 00:39:23 Speaker 1: It comes with it. What are you trying to get out of it? Yeah? 00:39:26 Speaker 2: Which comes I think with age. I think it comes with experience with hunting. Four age of us, you know, like like life, you know where you're at in life, how you feel about if you've got kids, if you don't have kids, how old your parents are, like you know, all that kind of stuff. Like, I feel like it changes with our age, how we feel about, you know, I do with stuff like that. I do wish we would that was a loud whistle. I do wish in my ear, I feel you knew gray. 00:39:54 Speaker 1: As hunters that we would just kind of like do away with the hierarchy of you're not a real hundred until you shoot an eight year old. But we your bo you know what I mean? And like the classifications that we put on sure accomplished hunters and non accomplished hunters. To me, it's like there are different reasons, there are different motivations, and there's different fulfillment that comes with hunting. You know, whether it's your first turkey, your first buck, it's just gor. 00:40:28 Speaker 2: Your first one with your dad, your first one with your buddy. I mean, there's so many there's so many areas like that that are out there to achievements that can be accomplished just and it doesn't have to be one hundred and fifty inch, dear, it doesn't have to be a triple bearded you know, twelve inch ten inch, nine inches two inch bird. Like that excitement shouldn't now it is there comes Like we're saying, this is kind of circling back. There are different levels of hunting and which level do you want to go after? 00:40:59 Speaker 1: Man? 00:41:00 Speaker 2: Like what you know, what what challenge do you want to go up against? 00:41:03 Speaker 1: And what fulfills you? 00:41:04 Speaker 2: And what what fulfills you? 00:41:05 Speaker 1: What what satisfy you? What? 00:41:07 Speaker 2: Yes, what what drives you to do to go after whatever level you want to go after. 00:41:14 Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, we got way off, So trail cameras, got trail cameras going. I think one thing that trail cameras are great for that I've realized, and this is going to lead into a couple of these It's going to bear up a couple of these points at the same time is identifying your deer numbers and in those numbers, which bucks are you trying to target? Sure, which is what we were talking about earlier. Why we can kind of focus in on the deer is because we're watching them year after year hopefully you know, get bigger and older and kind of into that age class that we want to take. 00:41:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, and not only watching them year after year. You if you've got camera, if you do it like us and have cameras up through the summer, like like we said, you're you're you're watching them, know about, You're watching them grow and and you're seeing you know, what what I like to do is take a notepad and every trail camera I've got written down. 00:42:02 Speaker 1: I've got a notepad at. 00:42:04 Speaker 2: And and when I see a buck at a certain trail camera, I'll write down when he was there, and then every different buck I write down, so you know, you kind of start and then doze. How many does were there that day? How many how many phones were there that day? So you start after a while, after a few months of tracking that information, you kind of have an idea of not necessarily how many deer are on your property, but you have an idea of what bucks are on your property because you can identify those. 00:42:33 Speaker 1: I mean, I would call that your your number of resident. 00:42:36 Speaker 2: Near Yeah you heard your how big your herd is? 00:42:39 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? And so once you're able to do that, you're able to identify Okay, does this deer look like a four year old? So he looked like a five year old? Right now? I have a velvet ten point and he's on the fence for me. Is he a great deer? Absolutely, But just because he's a great deer doesn't mean. 00:42:58 Speaker 2: No property line fence. He's on on the on the fence of you. 00:43:02 Speaker 1: Know, he's on the fence of me. Yeah, well, he's definitely jumping properties. But my whole point is like I haven't had enough. Even though I've probably had one hundred trail camp pictures, I can't necessarily identify the age of that deer on camera. And with that being said, it's like maybe maybe that falls into not shooter. That falls into not shooter more than it falls into shooter for me, Like even though he's a ten, even though he's a massy ten, it's like when that the deer last year came on camera, it was like, no doubt, shooter, that's the guy. Gotta hunt him, like no doubt, you know. And so that's to me, that's what great. That's what's one reason trail cameras are great. Especially on a small property of what you're you're able to kind of identify your resident deer and from that comes dough management. Man. 00:43:52 Speaker 2: Those are tough though, like when when you have a deal that's on the fence like that that you're not sure if he's four or five or five or six, or if he's you know, how big he is. And and deer always look bigger in velvet because you know they've got that the layer of protection around their horns that's going to give them that the bigger you know, look on a trail camera, but also looking at a deer in a trail camera, it's completely different than sitting in a deer stand and seeing that deer at one hundred yards or fifty yards, so you don't know, yeah, you have, you know, the feeling that you get when you're looking at him on trail camera. Some of them are man, if I see that deer out in the wild, I'm gonna I'm gonna take the shot. Some of them are man, I don't know, maybe, and then some of them are, yeah, definitely not gonna shoot that deer. But you can't really know about the only fence deer until you get in a stand and that's something gun walks out in front of you, you know, And then then you can if you're you know, if you can calm yourself down enough, you can you can try to to to discern how old he is, if his backswayed, if his brisk is big, if he's. 00:44:53 Speaker 1: You know, also till one hundred times more from the stand that you can't trail cams being in the way that that deer carries himself right totally. And I know that sounds crazy and that comes with experience, but they don't. They don't all act the same. 00:45:08 Speaker 2: No, it's just like Jenna, just like humans. But there's a lot of a lot of tendencies that. 00:45:13 Speaker 1: I mean, for me personally, I feel like you see a two If a two year old pops out into the field, he's got he's a fork corn or he's a spike, you're gonna get away with a lot more. Three year old pops out in the field, he's gonna be a little more nervy, a little more looking around. You're not gonna get away with month but confident, but you're still gonna be able to get away with some movement. If a four year old plus deer enters like my hunting area, regardless of whether that's in the food plot or in the trail that I'm hunting, or in the oak trees that I'm hunting, if a four year old plus deer enters that area, I'm on mega high maximum, like be still scent control. I mean not that you can change your scent control in the moment, but it's just like I'm doing everything I can possibly do for that deer to not know I'm even in the world. 00:46:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, because that, honestly, I mean, with that, with a mature deer like that, that might be the only time you ever get to see the only time and you can do and you can make a minimal mistake in that moment that will make that deer run for hours. I'll tell you this day, and you'll never see again. This is a clear might not even run, he might just slip out and never show back up. 00:46:22 Speaker 1: That goes right to your point. The first year I had that property, Oh yeah, we had Yeah, got me. We had a ten point split G two on both sides. No, I'm sorry, he had split G two's and split G three's. The country music listener that tuned into this podcast is like, were they ever going to talk about Luke Combs? 00:46:42 Speaker 2: Sorry, we had We've been going for a minute. 00:46:45 Speaker 1: If you have that guy, we're forty five minutes in. 00:46:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk about music. 00:46:48 Speaker 1: If you're that guy. About five minutes you're that guy. Just know that. Just hold on, yeah, hold on. So or to our just skip to the end. So we had a deer that was a ten point that had a split G two and split you three and he was absolutely the one of the biggest. 00:47:04 Speaker 2: This is one of the first bucks we got on track camera on that new problem and we were like, what is it? 00:47:08 Speaker 1: Gold mine? Yeah, we were lose our minds. So we pattered this deer we food plot for this deer. Everything number one priority and tire. Summer early fall was dedicated to getting this deer and getting a shot on this deer. 00:47:23 Speaker 2: And at that point we were trying to film and do the whole brand thing and all of that. 00:47:28 Speaker 1: I'm still down for it, and if you do it, that's fine. But man, we just we were doing You're doing too much, son, You're doing. 00:47:35 Speaker 2: Too too much. 00:47:35 Speaker 1: He was doing too much. So you're doing too much. Man. So the day comes, we've watched this deer come into this food plot at like twenty minutes before dark. Every night we got him down, I mean down. 00:47:49 Speaker 2: I think I remember the actual like date. I think it was like October, like seventies. 00:47:53 Speaker 1: This was beans. I had bad beans. 00:47:55 Speaker 2: We had that double set, perfect set, perfect cut us to cut cut us, stripped through the beans right to the thing, blew it out with the blower. 00:48:04 Speaker 1: Call reading not before him like, hey, Marris, the day got to get in the stand, tomorrow's day. He's like north wind. Had to do it on the north wind. North wind was perfect. I get done with my right. I come by, remember I had that. I come to get the four wheeler, the trailer and the four wheeler in my the ball was locked on my was locked on your truck. 00:48:23 Speaker 2: It was actual it was a locked uh pen. 00:48:26 Speaker 1: And you didn't have the key, so we had to cut the thing off in order to get the ball. 00:48:32 Speaker 2: I think we sat there and Jig saw that thing for. 00:48:35 Speaker 1: Well too long, because I know for a fact it was three thirty six. 00:48:39 Speaker 2: We also got a phone call in the middle of that that. 00:48:41 Speaker 1: No I did, that I had to take. So you went ahead and walked from the parking spot to the stand right out, and I'm taking this phone call, trying to get off the phone, trying to be nice about it. It's actually to be able to Illinois. Yeah, so I had to kind of take the call. I'm watching read he's walking through the woods to get to this certain spot and he's probably at this point three hundred yards from me, and I see him climbing. It was three thirty and that was pushing it. That was pushing it. We knew that was pushing it, but we had the trailer hitch snafoo to deal with. But I still thought, well, we had so much research saying that he doesn't enter the field until five thirty. We were still two hours ahead of when he was going to come. So I'm on the phone. I see Reid get halfway up the ladder and just completely stop. And in that moment, I knew, I knew there was no we were in a hurry, There was no reason for him to stop. And the only reason he would have stopped is if he saw something that was worthy of him not making it up the ladder stopping to move. And I watched him not move for about five minutes. Hearts drop and I ain't even listen to what to dude on the phone is saying. At this point, I see him come back down the ladder, walk straight to me and say, we blew it. And I said, what do you mean? He was like, We're too late? And I said, what do you mean we're too late? He said, Man, I got halfway up that ladder and I looked, and I'm staring at that deer was bedded one hundred yards off the food line and was just waiting for it to get towards twilight before he came out. Yeah. Big, We literally didn't have any there was no trail cam pictures I'm talking about. 00:50:24 Speaker 2: Ever, and he was he was running with a big that big eight point, that weird eight point and same thing. They just it's almost like they just like packed their bags, both of them and dipped out. We never heard of that deer getting killed. And that's a deer neighbors. That's the deer you hear about. 00:50:38 Speaker 1: A neighbor of mine a mile down the road, had one trail camera picture of him and then never saw him aga And it was in that. 00:50:43 Speaker 2: Time, and he was probably I mean, he was probably I mean, i'd say he was probably six seven eight years Oh. 00:50:49 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just. 00:50:50 Speaker 2: An old, giant, smart deer. And yeah, and which goes back to say, man, you just have to make the most of thosepportunities. When you're hunting big deer like that. It's a different ballgame when you get when you get those six seven eight year olds on your farm and you're trying to get them thirty yards from your stand, it is a different ball game. 00:51:18 Speaker 1: You know what. I've really started doing this and I've stopped trying. I haven't completely stopped. Sorry, let me say this. I have reevaluated how much attention I give to hunting bucks, mature bucks in food plots, like trying to get the big buck on a pattern to the food plot. It's just kind of ineffective. I'm not saying it's not effective. I just don't think it's as effective as drawing as many dos to that food plot as you possibly can, and then hunting that food plot during the times that the bucks are on dose. Yeah, you see what I'm saying. Yeah, instead of them going, Okay, I'm a buck and I'm going to eat corn, or I'm going to eat beans, or I'm going to eat clover, which, by the way, clover for me has been the most effective food plight. And the reason it is is because beans come up once they get popped right now. If you plan a bunch of them, that's great, but they usually hit them early season and megala season. 00:52:20 Speaker 2: Corn if you have any left yah. 00:52:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you have any left corn, it doesn't even they don't even touch it until it turns. But when does it turn? October? So I mean you're you're already halfway in the season. Clover, for me, the more the hit that, the more it grows. Number one, number two, it's all. It's it's year round unless you have an insane od droughtlight we just had. I mean, these deer that I'm seeing have been in this clover since March. Yeah. 00:52:43 Speaker 2: And the great thing about clover too is it's a perennial, so it'll come up every year and it creates it creates a a life time of food source for these deer that they know, no matter what time of the year, if they go up there, they're gonna be national clover. 00:53:00 Speaker 1: Now, look, there is maintenance. Don't let the don't let the don't let the lie full you that all you gotta do is playing cover clover and it comes back every single year. That's that is not sure. You gotta take care of it. There is mood. There is maintenance as far as spraying, cutting, and you gotta kind of gotta figure that out on your own. I mean I can, everybody can give you hints and tips, but the truth is you just kind of got to figure it out. 00:53:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's different you know, maintenance ways to do it. Clethordhom two four dB mowing it at the right time, to cut the tops off and let it regenerate. Yeah, uh, where we could get Bucky. We're deer season, man, we obviously we're both ready. We've played a lot of golf. I got a lot of shows. 00:53:41 Speaker 1: I played a lot of. 00:53:42 Speaker 2: Shows, played a lot of shows when I'm using some gigs. Yeah, I got one more golf tournament, and then after it's usually playing this one every year, and then after that it is full on first week in August, it's full on deer season. 00:53:54 Speaker 1: I think the first little cold snap kind of comes rolling through, clicks it on, and this is the Colts. We're in it right now. It's still right outside. 00:54:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just been so dang hot. What's that's the little quick snapheo? What event in the Olympics are you? Will you watch? 00:54:16 Speaker 1: Which one is this summer winter? I'm gonna smack you in the don't know, I don't know what. 00:54:22 Speaker 2: What are we living in right now? 00:54:23 Speaker 1: What? 00:54:24 Speaker 2: It's July? Yeah, it's the summer Olympics. 00:54:26 Speaker 1: If they're in Paris. Dude, Okay, well. 00:54:29 Speaker 2: Is it going to be December in Paris? 00:54:31 Speaker 1: No, but it could be fall. 00:54:33 Speaker 2: It's gonna be cold. 00:54:34 Speaker 1: But they're saying when we were in New Zealand, it was all here. 00:54:38 Speaker 2: It was summer, the summer Olympics. Bro okay, great, it's not just our country. They might cut this out. They might cut you want. 00:54:49 Speaker 1: I don't never know, No, I don't mean what time of the year. I'm saying it goes. You know what I'm saying, Like, it's different. It's the Summer Olympics this time. Yes, so they're so you can't watch the I aren't the winner. Isn't that two years from now? Isn't it on the two years? Yeah? Flips two years or two. That's what I'm saying. I don't mean, like what time of the year is, I mean, which one are we in line for? I couldn't remember what was last? 00:55:11 Speaker 2: Is the Summer Olympics in Paris, Okay, they're about to have the first golf probably. 00:55:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, god's fun to watch. Yeah, I mean everything else and I mean I'm gonna leave it rolling. I love to just leave it rolling. 00:55:21 Speaker 2: Watched the swimming you watch the swimming gun We got two girls from Nashville going sisters, the Wash Wash sisters. 00:55:27 Speaker 1: That's cool, I. 00:55:28 Speaker 2: Think when I'm just at the world record for that chick was so Katie Ladecki. I don't maybe I don't know. I know Michael Phillips isn't anymore. 00:55:37 Speaker 1: He's out, Yeah, he's out. 00:55:39 Speaker 2: It seems like it seems like when you're young, you you've watched these you know, you watched the Summer Olympics for the Winter Olympics, and you watch them one time and you just think, like, whoever's winning the gold is the greatest of all time at that sport. But then now that you're older, you kind of realize that if if they're lucky, they're gonna get too goest at being Olympians and trying to win gold. And so yeah, when I you know, I always got mad that Michael Phelpson's gonna be swimming again, but you know he's old, can do it as good as the young cats. Is the return of someone Biles. 00:56:20 Speaker 1: She's coming back. 00:56:21 Speaker 2: She's coming back. Yeah, she's crazy to watch. She can do a bunch of flips. 00:56:29 Speaker 1: I don't know, man looks a lot. It's long too, it's like two weeks. I love watching them. 00:56:36 Speaker 2: I love the archery. I love I love the archery competition. I don't know if that's in the winter of the summer. You know what they do have this time though, break dancing Olympics. You can win a gold medal, as you know. 00:56:54 Speaker 1: That's what I love doing this. I love saying if you were an Olympian, what would be the thing if you could design? Had had this convers you could be the Olympian at Okay, it been a while. Now, what do you feel like you're in the top one percent of the world at They could be eating to riad us, it could be fixing a lawnmower tire. It could be written a song. It could be hitting a golf ball with your putter, I mean, like a driving I don't know. But what is the thing that you feel like you are arguably in the top percent of the world at doing. 00:57:31 Speaker 2: I don't It's hard for me to say, like right now, what I feel like that is? Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't have the Hall of Fame or the number ones to prove, but I feel like I'm a great I'm a great songwriter. I feel like I feel like melody wise, and if they had a class A melody, if they had best best. 00:57:51 Speaker 1: On the spot, you think you would be an Olympia that. 00:57:54 Speaker 2: I think I would make that. I think I think I'd make the podium. But I will say this, at time when I was probably twelve years old, if they had seven foot how low could those goals go? Back then basketball goals. 00:58:10 Speaker 1: We were probably shooting on the best six. 00:58:11 Speaker 2: Now, if they had seven foot goals with a mini basketball, the miniature basketball, there is no doubt in my brain I would have won out of one hundred shots, say like like the most out of one hundred, I would win gold medal in that if. 00:58:27 Speaker 1: You could have a team on a street team. 00:58:29 Speaker 2: I wouldn't need a team. I would just mean I did not miss. And I remember thinking back then when I was twelve, I'm like, man, I am the best in the world at shooting this basketball on a seven foot size caulf. 00:58:40 Speaker 1: I feel like right now the thing that I would be the best I could be in the top percentage is like biding my kids on the bed and like you know how you like pick them up and slam like I can do some I can sling my two year old in some ways that will blow your mind, dude. I mean and not her in them, but like right now to flip like like where they're like, well, here's my recent move with like starfish flying is to get him from his arms and because he wants to do this and go and do a circle around my head, yeah, and then whip him to where he goes and hits the pillows and he's like yeah, and I mean lines, I can this morning, I had her with her face pressed against the ceiling. I put I stood her up that hard and just went, oh my god. They love it. They love to play rub I could say in kid wrestling, i'd probably be in the top percentage. And there's rules. I'm trying to think of bloody in their nose. 00:59:42 Speaker 2: You're not throwing them against the It's yeah, sure, I'm trying to think of it like some let's I. 00:59:50 Speaker 1: Can fix the lawn more tire pretty quick, dude, I would put me up there because like it keeps rolling off the room, so I've had a lot of practice with it. He did the rat the rats trap. Yeah, yeah, if. 00:59:59 Speaker 2: They were like they were like God like to get along more time, as. 01:00:02 Speaker 1: Long as you got one of those red rapport straps that I can do pretty quick. It is no man, Olympics are coming there, Olympics. Let's do music for five minutes. 01:00:15 Speaker 2: Man, I've already I told you about this, but I think it's interesting that that something we could talk about. I was mowing the other day and was listening to I think sometimes like when I'm mow, I put on records on want to listen to. But then sometimes I just put on like the charts or record breaking songs right now Top one, Billboard one hundred or Billboard Top forty, anything like that. And I just had this thought while I was listening to you know, because every song on those things right now, it's like it's either Morgan Wallin, Zach Bryn, that Sabrina Carpenter girls on there all the time right now, years ago. 01:00:58 Speaker 1: No it's not. 01:00:58 Speaker 2: No, the Cabrina is a uh I can't do. Yeah, she's a new she's a new pop girl. I'm just saying, like, right now the charts and then you're gonna hear Combs on there, and you're gonna you're gonna hear that it's kind of the same with these other guys. But in my brain, I thought, like, you know, because because these songs which they're they're tracking streams, so literally now you know, every time they get played wherever in the world they have it recorded and they put it on top of the number and it and you can see the number that way, literally how many times these songs are being played. But these records, like the Dangerous record, this One's for You Bye by LC, the Zach Bryan record which I didn't even know was named Zach Brian, but it's just uh, it's his record called Zach Brian. These records are breaking records. These albums are breaking records held by Born to Run Thriller, like about something I'm talking about all time. Wow, Like they these these streams and now listen, Like I said, it's different now because you're literally tracking you know, streams and and how many's instead of units sold, which is like just CD CD sold, But you have these records, you have these albums now breaking those types of records. And and I just had this thought, like in my while I was mowing, I stripping my lawn just perfectly. 01:02:23 Speaker 1: It looks great. Would that be something you feel like Olympic whil you could Well, there's. 01:02:28 Speaker 2: Way better stripers. Yeah, they can do the crisscross stuff. I just go I just go east to west with the sun and it looks great. But sometimes I get sideways and it kind of gets crooked towards the end of my property. 01:02:39 Speaker 1: I think Dad could be a Facebook marketplace finer finder, deal finder. 01:02:44 Speaker 2: He is an Olympia Facebook mark. It's like it's these auction sides. He drove to Memphis the other day just to pick up something that is still sitting out in front of his garage that he ain't ever gonna use. So anyway, uh, these songs. Here's the thought, are we in the middle and even in the industry, we are writing songs on some of these projects, Like, are we in the middle of some of the greatest music and albums of all time? Are we listening to them? Are we seeing them happen? Because and here was my thought too, is like after I thought that, I was like, you know, number wise, we are obviously number wise, they're at the top of the charts. I was like, but and if we are, at what point in our lives and in the careers of these artists, well we know it? 01:03:40 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean to put it in comparison, It's like, did Michael Jackson know he was putting out arguably one of the greatest records of all time when he were released Thriller? Did he know well or did he just put a record out? 01:03:53 Speaker 2: He just put a record out and a year later, ten years later, they still it was just a record. But now now and it's and it's and it's not even up to us to decide if these records that Zach and Luke and Morgan and Taylor Swift and these other cats are putting out like it's not it's not gonna be up to us to decide if they're the greatest of all time. It's gonna be generations, Like it's gonna be generation It's gonna be our kids and our kids' kids that are gonna decide if you know. 01:04:22 Speaker 1: Cool or not. Yeah, you think about when Nickelback was popping, people were like, dude, nickel Back, absolutely, and then years later, but you know, there's like a weird resurgence even with them. It's like, you can't argue when something feels and sounds good if it can stand the test of time. 01:04:41 Speaker 2: Well, and it's all subjective, it's all opinion based, and it's if you like something and I don't, I like something you don't. 01:04:48 Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about things we like and things we don't like. 01:04:50 Speaker 2: You always talk about the Maleean and Sons of Disaster. I love that, Yeah, I'm not. I'm not crazy about them. I into there's some some of their stuff because but that's just not my Yeah, that's just not my my group. 01:05:05 Speaker 1: What you like? What do you love? Right now? 01:05:08 Speaker 2: I love and this is gonna this is Curveball. No, h uh, what what's the tiny Things? Tiny Habits? Tiny Things? 01:05:21 Speaker 1: Is the record? You're listening to that? 01:05:24 Speaker 2: Literally? And I don't know if it's like I mean, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna listen to it over and over and over and over and over. But if like, dude, no doubt, if if I've been at an event or at a con a country concert or something backstage or very yeah, they're they're this, They're this, uh this band of of two girls and a guy from Berkeley in Boston. And is it is Berkeley in Boston school the music one in Boston? Are they are all Berkeley's music? 01:05:56 Speaker 1: What? 01:05:57 Speaker 2: Like It's like there's a Berkeley in Boston. Then there's a Berkeley like La or something in California. I don't know either, but anyway they all go to that's cool and they have crazy harmonies. They write that their melodies are insane and the way and I fell on Instagram a long time ago. But uh, but yeah, I mean I'm digging them right now. 01:06:17 Speaker 1: Do you like them? I mean I never listened to the records. I just see them. Yeah, they're great. Yeah. 01:06:23 Speaker 2: Anyway all that to say, like, yes, did did Springsteen know that Born to Run forty years later was going to be voted top one hundred album of all time. Yeah, man, I think it just and hot take. I don't love all those songs. I'm Born to Run. 01:06:45 Speaker 1: I don't either. 01:06:46 Speaker 2: After well, when I was mowing, I started looking, I started having this thought in my brain, and I went to some of those records. So I listened to Born and Run for the first time, and dude, born to Run is kind of what's that other one on that record that's so good? 01:07:00 Speaker 1: Oh, there's there are some good ones. 01:07:02 Speaker 2: Born to Run is is the best one on there? And then uh, he gets me. It's either of my mind, daddy. I'm like, yeah, he little girl. I'm like, if you start selling. 01:07:13 Speaker 1: A little girl, I'm out, Wow. 01:07:20 Speaker 2: Jungle Land, Jungle Lands crazy. Yeah, John Land's great. Hung But yeah, I don't know. I just I just had that thought. You know, are are we There's some trash on Thriller too, for sure. I listened to that. Yeah, for sure. 01:07:35 Speaker 1: Again, it's all subjective. What do you you know? What are you listening for? 01:07:38 Speaker 2: No doubt, no doubt, But you think it's some of the greatest records, some of the greatest country records. Uh, what Falls from Prison? Johnny Cash, Red Hair String Ready to Red Haired Stranger, Yeah, that's right, Yeah, Whiskey Bent, hell Bound, Marina del Rey Yeah, I mean testing are these yeah? Are these records? Is dangerous? Is this one's for you going to stand up? 01:08:07 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of I think there's a lot of there's a lot of external factors into that too, you know, Like I always think about this so as far as like country like legend right now, it feels like there's a huge jeez, what's the name Keith Whitley, like following like people our age that are hitting it in the business right now. For some reason, a lot of these jokers idolize Keith Whitley. I like Keith Willy, I like, I like a lot of Keith Willy songs. But there's some trash on that stuff. We share the same last name, man, the same colored right, that song's creams man, It's a cringey song, dude, I'm sorry. I know, I know we get hazed for that, but like it is subjective, you know. So my point is, I think a lot of there's external factors that like what what's your daddy? Listening to while you're riding in the truck in the back. You know what I mean? What's uh? Are they good guys? Keith Whitley died right a sad drank himself to death over allegedly over. So there's gonna be there's a stigma, there's a story, there's a you know. So I think a lot of that has to do with external factors, not just the music. Michael Jackson was a presence. Yeah, the legacy Springsteen had a presence. It wasn't just a record. And and do these guys hold that? And if they do, here's one thing I started thinking about, which is super mega weird. Put yourself, how old will you be in thirty years? Sixty six? Okay, now if you're sixty six sitting there with your kids and there they have babies, think about that, dude, your kids having have have little babies now because according to the timeline of age a tail spend. Dude. I'm just saying, okay, then are they gonna be like, hey man, let's put on this one for you and listen to some of dads songs? 01:10:08 Speaker 2: Oh man? 01:10:10 Speaker 1: Or is that gonna be like such a giant record that or whatever? 01:10:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, can you imagine having songs on board and run? That's what I'm saying, Like, can you like, yeah, man, I mean that's. 01:10:22 Speaker 1: A really it's an absolute reality. 01:10:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it's a possibility. Sorry I shouldn't say, well, it's already possible reality. The reality is there. I mean, those are songs are on there. It's just if you know, if it reaches to the. 01:10:36 Speaker 1: Fact or I would do that with Guark Brooks. I mean, like, if I have those Gark Brooks songs, I would still be like, Oh, it ain't no doubt. Hey, thanks for hanging out with us. It's been an hour. You think we're dude, I'm out of here. It's been over an hour over Yeah, maybe they'll trim some of this up, maybe they want anyway. 01:10:55 Speaker 2: Maybe it's not even recording. Maybe maybe maybe I forgot to hit a button and we just and we just talked for an hour and and just had useless conversation. And nobody will ever hear this if it's not recorded. What if nobody will ever hear this? 01:11:08 Speaker 1: I'm not doing it again if it's not recording or. 01:11:12 Speaker 2: That should we play a song or something? 01:11:14 Speaker 1: No, anyway, thanks for checking this out. Hey, I guess this is still God's Country. Ye eshould name something that's different, something different, Basement Country, basement deer talk with Minimal Country with Dan and Redisney. 01:11:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, look for these things every once in a while. Hopefully you don't have to do it like a million of them, but. 01:11:35 Speaker 1: If you want to get to know us, this is a great chance to do it because most of the time we're focused on the artist or yeah, guest, when we have a little. 01:11:42 Speaker 2: Side pod, side pod, a little side pod side GCP hey man for real, thank y'all for the support and just karen what we say and we talk about. 01:11:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not sure why you do, but we sure do appreciate it. 01:11:58 Speaker 2: Hey, if you're looking for great new podcast to listen to, go check out the Meat Eater YouTube or the podcast platform. Not only is God's Country on there, but they have other podcasts, the media podcasts on there, the tribute podcast, Bear Grease. 01:12:12 Speaker 1: It's Not cows Wen Reviewing, where they changed. 01:12:14 Speaker 2: It, Yeah, something else, Wired to Hunt, It's come Mark Kenyon. Those cats are on there. 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